Affects Of Alcohol Withdrawal | Chicago Med 

I thought that too. This is very dangerous for the patient.

Depends on the situation

Ml:explains things Me:he is speaking the language of smart people

But he’s also having cirrhosis, renal failure and cardiomayopathy. Giving him alcohol is gonna be even worse!

Hence the sedative & keeping him in. Since it's been two days when he comes in to re introduce alcohol now is just as dangerous. Especially with saoirosis of the liver

Sums up Halstead's biggest flaw. He doesn't listen. He has a hero complex.

She already decided what was best for him when she decided to give him alcohol. The line doesn't make sense.

@@liama5223 what are you talking about the patient was the one who "decided" he wanted alcohol. Addicts are supposed to voluntarily check themselves into recovery programs unless they are minors. The patient didn't consent to any of this to begin with; he was in the hospital for his broken leg not to treat his alcoholism. The nurse followed the patients will she didnt "decide" for him AKA override patients will like the doctor is doing.

Ya cuz he was a patient on house md too so he got experience

It isn't fake tho

@@alfietitherington204 it is

@@alfietitherington204 it is

@@alfietitherington204 😂😭😭yes it is

Andrea Sanduly same

Considering she’s a doctor, you would hope you would.

she is real

she is real she is a doctor

@@Altirix not a real doctor

The problem is that he didn't "give in" he never wanted to stop. He was essentially being forced to stop and being told that it was his decision to keep going. If he didn't want to stop then even if he got through the tremors there'd be a massive chance he would just go out and drink as soon as he was well enough to leave.

its a tv show not real

@@josephkerrigan733 its a tv show not real

@@aliceramdom.s I don't understand these comments. Can you not comprehend people being invested in fiction?

Lmao

Oml did you just say that 😮😆

amone larsson I don’t know if you meant this in an offensive way but this was happening-to my uncle On Christmas Day he had seizures and hillusinations he was in hospital for a week so it is not a funny thing

amone larsson Sorry man, can’t relate I dont need no drink

Eve Denton they clearly weren’t using this is an offensive way in the slightest. We need to understand that this is all acting. Of course stuff like this happens irl but the truth is, to overcome a sad thing, you need to laugh about it.

You’d be 100% incorrect. He was on iv benzodiazepines, and had the alcohol combined with them, he could have died. She colossally fucked up.

@@maddietrafford1225 He asked for it. He wanted alcohol and refused treatment

@@maddietrafford1225 But if he just died while on the benzodiazepines in extreme pain then all good? Doesn't make much sense.

@@josephkerrigan733 Benzos is basically "alcohol on pills" without the dangers of alcohol. They are way more effective in weaning an addict. 2 weeks straight of benzos can actually stop all of his DT symptoms completely. By giving him a drink, you basically destroy all that effort and pushed him back to zero.

its a tv show not real

Wish that would have helped, but his body was going into life threatening seizures, it's called a neurotransmitter rebound, he's was so heavily sedated from alcohol with a body chemical called GABA , basically it's the calm body chemical, his body tries to rebalance with the opposite chemical GLUTAMATE (Basically the fight or flight chemical) shaking....anxiety and a seizure of convulsions..... his body is not screaming out in panic for a "Drink" he is really asking for the chemical/drug ethanol which would sedate said CONVULSIONS/FIT .... Ethanol ie Alcohol ie "A drink" ....

he wanted an alchaholic drink

You are not funny!

Drewmusic01 he was joking

Pony Gamer it was a joke

Amna Ahmed if the person is mentally ill then the doctor needs to make a decision am I right?

That is actually sad i can imagine how you feel

TimiPlays34 you can be mentally ill and still have capacity

@@altrimidrizi2470 5 month old comment but if you are going 100% by the book an official somewhere up the chain needs to sign off that they agree the patient isnt capable of making rational informed decisions. that takes time because beurocratic BS. reality is the people treating the patient have to stick their neck out in situations like that and pray to god when the decision finaly comes back it agrees with what they've already been doing for the last few hours. good example is a story about a guy who came in to emergancy and crashed, they open his shirt and see he has D.N.R tattoed right over where the shock pads need to go. they have seconds to decide whether to let this guy go or bring him back, a tattoo in NO WAY constitutes a formal D.N.R which is something you have to go through a big meeting and sign off on. they dont have the document infront of them. if they let him die and he doesnt have such a document, they are looking at criminal neglect at best, murder at worst. if they revive him and he does have it, they are looking at 1 hell of a court case if the patient feels so inclined. they have seconds, and i mean somewhere bitween 3 and 10 seconds at a stretch, to decide what to do. its nothing more than a coin toss in terms of legality, moraly they had to make a choice they let that man die papers come back later, he had cancer, he had spent the last year or so suffering and decided he'd had enough, took some pills. its a grim reality but he got what he wanted but it could have just as easily been an acidental OD and a joke tattoo, he'd still have been dead and the atendees would have been arested

Well done gem ! I’m not dependent on alcohol but some members of my family certainly are,but think they can stop whenever they want ,what I say is STOP THEN !!! who wants that life ? It’s not living.

And the worst thing is it is legal and some of the other drugs are illegal which can even land you in jail. Addicts should be treated as patients not criminals!!

i stopped was given no help i was drinking every day my mum died of cirrhois of the liver aged 59 that made me turm my life around been clean and sober 10 years now

Well once an addict always an addict 🤷🏻

@@tusharsharma1299 that is exactly the reason why alcohol is legal... high tax high chance of crippling addiction. they know what they are doing. illegal drugs if used correctly are way less dangerous than alcohol and nicotine for the most part. (nicotine is psychologically harder to quit than heroin. yes that is a scientific fact. and yes that is fucked up.) they want the most addictive drugs to be legal to make profit of of tax money.

That's Frank Whaley for you.

@@brucetumpalan6399 he was a patient in house md too.

@@iramahmed634 Liked him a lot in Ray Donovan.

was he the one that "copied" others personalities? ​@@iramahmed634

Oh hey, it's Mirror Syndrome guy.

Nuur moalim He did

Nuur moalim 😂😂 he did as well

thats mankyyyy

art

yep 😂 😂

He isn't in a stable mindset to make that decision

Iq: - 12

H E A T H E R C H A N D L E R Okay, but where do you draw the line where self destructive requires attention? Alcoholism? Obesity? Not exercising? Eating too much cholesterol laden food? Where do you draw the line?

Actually doctors have a duty of care which means that they have to care for you in the way they see fit, in their professional point of view.

@@tobiasrichards9732 If the patient doesn't want it you can't give it. This is entirely untrue.

As it turns out, benzodiazepenes are pharmacologicly similar to alcohol, as they both act as GABA(A) agonists. Instead of giving him booze, she should have pushed some ativan or versed, as it would have pretty much the same effect, but be safer.

Even though you guys broke up, I'm sorry for your loss

Spudd not if they gave him lots of Valium witch would give a beater High but he wonted Alcohol so she rightly gave it him she should have put some Valium in to it then he will be more then happy

He needs help. If he continues taking alcohol till the end of time he’ll die anyways.

Come on 🤦‍♀️ that's not helping, he needs help and not by bringing him alcohol

Should just given him disulfiram.

@@paulabogomolova666 forcing him to go into quit isn't going to work 🙄

Correct, remember that doesn't mean mary's a good thing though

Because marijuana doesn't cause dependence.

Most are including me but don't look obvious

I knew someone who would act like a schizo if he hadn't had a recent drag

Mandy or ethanol

@Meow Meowmeow I am on gabapentin, and diazepam, amongst other things, for progressive fibromyalgia. Aside from turning in to a hermit, I've noticed my alcohol tolerance has dropped; stupidity, despite having done Clinical Biochemistry, I have had forgotten all about GABA receptors ... now it makes sense that, when one hospitial put me on 1,200mg+ gabapentin/day, I used to wake up with headaches ... ... and no wonder why my GP almost had a fit, when he found out, and wrote a rather stern letter to ask what the hell they were thinking ...

Because it makes a lot of people very rich.

@@BassssicBasssssssss if that's the case then DAMN that seems kinda really idk sad somehow

Mandy they give a different effect Valium a benzo gives more of a stone then a drunk and if used carefully much safer then Alcohol but if your withdrawing from Alcohol you will need large Amounts of Valium and Beter Blockers and water

Meth, heroin...

Neither of them can kill...

Monkeybone they can actually. Have you been listening at all?

Iona has been edited, I’ve been to detox a few times :)))

@@bascoaful i have had Heroin a few times ran out and did not get withdrawal glad i have tryd Heroin though it was a goul i had when i was 12 to try it and then some years later i did

Sometimes i wished that someone would have done that to me.

No, neither legally or ethically. They can treat him with sedatives, anti-convulsionts and anti-nausea medication but not completely “knock him out”. Unfortunately, once you reach the point of DTs during withdrawal, they are very difficult to treat.

Ughhh I rlly do wish

Why should they?

They need consent to put him under anaesthesia

Owww

Keep it up I’m so proud of you🎉

Sorry for what you went through, alchol is evil, I have to ask what was the recorded cause of death? Cardiac arrest? It's just someone I know is trying to go cold turkey and I'm worried about them

So did i

Haha was looking for this

Same

You can tell it's acting they said he's leg was fractured in the exact place the first time they saw him with no x ray

Effects are consequences that have already taken place whereas affects are ongoing and current

@@haydenmcgowan5634 thats not right at all

tomrl6674 yes it is

@@tashamott Only in the most basic sense, that's just a rule that doesn't always apply. Its better to think of affect as a verb and effect as a noun. That rule of consequences v current isn't applicable to every use of the words, just like i before e except after c doesn't work every time. Its just something basic they teach at a kids school. In this case the title should be effects, not affects.

tomrl6674 wow sorry people don’t use perfect grammar on RU-vid

natalia l They probably did. This is a heavily edited version for their RU-vid channel. If he refused, then what can they do without getting sued?

I'm not a doctor, but wouldn't it be better to give him alcohol just to stop the DTs? The seizures are potentially dangerous and very unpleasant. Then with the immediate crisis over, wean him off slowly with proper emotional and practical support. Why does it have to be all or nothing?

Like what Goodwin said, an addict cannot just quit. If you force them to they'll just end up killing themselves in the process. Sometimes caring too much may do more harm than good. You just have to talk to them and see if they want to change or not, make them see how their addiction is ruining their lives. If they don't listen then give them time

Majora de Mayhem no, it wouldn’t.

Lavs_Soobin are you dumb? They won’t wake up one day and just decide they don’t want to do it anymore. NO ONE can beat an addiction without outside support from others, no one.

FrizzleMs he also had a fractured leg

you can't just give alcohol to a patient in a hospital its kinda against the rules and without his leg fixed he can't go anywhere. I dont agree with forcing a pt to go through DTs but we dont give drug addicts drugs for the same reason

They can give him benzodiazepines to ease the withdrawal.

@@raerae7870 In the (many) hospitals I've worked in, we would supply alcohol in those cases. It was not against policy. It's more frowned upon nowadays, though

@@raerae7870 Except technically they do! When you are fighting drug addiction (or basically any addiction like alcohol in this case) and you want to quit/are going through severe withdrawal symptoms medical professionals will prescribe you something that has a low dosage of what ever you are addicted to. As time passes that dosage is lowered and lowered until your body doesn't depend on the substance whether it's drugs, alcohol etc. To survive anymore

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Unfortunately they have to turn away alcohols, unless they can rehab them which in most cases alcoholics won't agree with because its like a prison. Hospitals can't supply patients with alcohol it is against hospital protocol, and punishment by jail and licence revoking as much as doctors want to help as many as they can. They can't risk the job for someone who probably doesn't want to kick the addiction. Alcohol is a dangerous drug and isn't much you can do they have to kick it themselves

Maybe there's real sick people to care for.

@@scratchy1704i really fucking hope you’re joking

​@@scratchy1704Because I'm actually capable of empathy I promise you I hope you never suffer from any mental illness, things like depression and high anxiety because you'll be very surprised how trauma can lead you down a dark path. And substance abuse can take over your life to a degree you can't even imagine.

@@Adam-gn5kh I have empathy for people who don't bring it on themselves by being alcoholics or druggies.

the 'sedative' could likely have been diazepam, so he probably wouldn't have been going cold turkey

later on dr halstead says 'did we up his benzos' again suggesting he was given diazepam or another similar drug

This isn't a documentary, it's a drama.

as this other person also said, he didn’t go cold turkey.

@@abbabbcbbcbb Diazapam is one of the best drugs for Alcohol withdrawal

If she's still drinking she is not getting better.

@@scratchy1704how would you know if you don’t know her? she said she’s getting better, not that she’s all healthy.

@dead_plant666 If you are an alcoholic and you still drink then you are not getting better.Drinking alcohol is a no no for an alcoholic.

@@scratchy1704 getting clean is a long process. maybe you’re gradually weening it off or maybe you’ve been clean for a year and slipped for a couple of days. maybe you’re on track, but haven’t reached your goal yet. the thing is, you don’t know. from my experience as an addict, i can never know what anyone is going through even though i might think i do. i’m not gonna force you to agree with me, so i won’t argue with you.

I mean they could but problem with addiction is that the first step has to come from the person with the addiction or no matter what treatment or therapy is brought forward, it will never stick.

He has always had a savior complex

Spudd nah they just can’t spell

@@fergusmacleod9961 lmaoo

Affects and effects are 2 different things

lol

i remember using affect and effect in the same English paper and lowkey cry because i didn't know the difference

Magical gacha girl he doesn’t need water, he needs some milk

sofia cosentino and some cookies to go with that!

You cannot just stop drinking it kills

Those dependant on alcohol must be tapered off slowly

Do u know where I could watch house MD coz I looked on Netflix and they've removed it

shishter shmee There are scenes of house MD on RU-vid! House MD have their own channel!

Actually it kinda is a part of battling addiction...for example there are centers that help with getting rid of addiction by administering smaller and smaller amounts of the drug until the patient is completely weaned off of it... But obviously it should be accompanied by therapy...its also usually best when the patient recognizes the problem and actually wants to solve it..

@@sumo9095 i am not talking about the patient but the hospital. This is not how to handle this.

I absolutely agree with that. I had that two times ... No more!

It really does feel like you’re about to die sometimes

Anjana Subba I know. Damn I really felt his pain through the screen

Yvonne Nguyen no

Yvonne Nguyen You don't think this is real, do you??? Of course they're going to zoom. It's a television show.

Whovian Girl if it’s the hospital protocol then he was just following orders and he could have been in serious trouble for not following them. I don’t know what the rules are now, but 25 years ago when I was a general nurse (in Australia) we would give alcoholics brandy (or whatever their drink of choice was) to stop them from going into withdrawal, not enough that they would be tipsy, just a tiny amount every day. This is for pt’s admitted for general surgery etc, not pt’s with complex health problems. To me it makes no sense forcing this guy through detox when he is just going to start drinking again as soon as he is discharged. An addict has to want to get sober on their own, they need reasons that are important to them to maintain sobriety.

@@JCHK. in the UK beer can be prescribed for alcoholics in the hospital. It's hard to treat any other medical issues when they're on death's door like this.

@@JCHK. I would think, given the emphasis on evidence-based medicine for umpteen decades, that there would be a kind near-universal medical protocol for patients with severe alcholism; like you said, not near enough to make the even tipsy, but certainly enough to prevent withdrawals ... Although I am not a medical professional (missed that train too many years ago), unless it is Surgical, then the aim of Medical is to manage the symptoms, and maintain homeostasis ... ... or am I crazy ...?

o - o oKay tHen.

why tho.. are you okay??