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Apparently Bailey Smith has purchased a house in the west of Geelong. I have no idea if that is true, just something I heard. As a Hawks fan, I am happy with that. I don't really want Smith. Perryman and Battle would make me happy.
He would probably suit Geelong better, well they would be better able to handle him. It might be harsh, you never know the whole truth, but he gives off the impression of an 18 year old in a 23 year old body. You can't doubt the guy's ability though.
I feel that for club culture and team cohesion, we really need Barass to help lead this next generation like Brady Hough. McGovern, while an absolute champion is what, 32? While Barass clearly commands draft capital if a trade were to eventuate, ask yourself how much our backline has kept us from being absolutely belted, without Barass or McGovern... it's a really tough position to be in.
My opinion on it is that I'd take him but only with some serious behaviour clauses in his contract and I'm certainly not paying full salary. The change of club could be what he needs. If Tyson Stengle could manage to pull his head in with a fresh start I'm sure if Oliver was serious about it he could too Not that I think Melbourne let him go
I think he would be great at the team l can see where he could do well with Laird in the scraps getting the ball to Dawson to get to the forwards. But along with El. I'd need something extra to be sure he's committed. Wouldn't be worth at his asking cost.
@Klooney9mm mate laird is finished. He can't kick the ball forward, and his disposal is questionable. Whens the last time you saw laird kick a goal from open play? Taylor, soligo, Berry, dowling and others are the ones that would share game time with Oliver, not laird. If Adelaide were smart, they'd put laird on the trade table this off-season.
I dont mind the idea of us trading barrass. Hes 29 and unlikely to be part of our next premiership. But at the same time his value in protecting our rebuild for the next few years cant be understated. Therefore id say, only trade him if its an offer we cant refuse. But like it ir not, we gotta trade someone. This years draft could be key to our future, we need more picks in the first and second round
I don’t think Houston only player looking to leave us at the end of this season, given how popular Ken is with the players, with many openly admitting in the past he’s the reason they’ve stayed at the club I could see things heading south very quickly when we make the call to move him on. Ultimately players choose to leave because we tried to bring in the best available coach, rather than someone who will never take us to success then I don’t see that as a bad thing.
Instead of Clayton Oliver, if Simon Goodwin wasn't contracted to coach Melbourne until 2026, I'd say Adelaide should try and lure him home to South Australia and get him to coach the Crows. Full circle moment of sorts, he did start his AFL career with the Crows and won 2 premierships with them
I don't think the Crows would want him, they went through quite a big overhaul to try and clean up their culture, so someone like Goodwin who has a few question marks in that area would be a step backwards.
As a Carlton supporter I want to keep Carroll but if he goes I understand, same with dow and Fisher last year I didn't wanna lose them but if players can get more opportunities elsewhere, it's better for them to go. Losing Carroll won't hurt us (immediately anyway, maybe it would in the future) and I think he'd be a good fit for the Eagles. The one player I don't want to lose that has been rumoured is Matt owies. I don't think he goes but teams are interested. He's an important player I don't want to lose
the Perryman raid into Sydney must be true, cannot imagine something that detailed and specific would be made up, plus there has been no denial; a major point of the story was how hands-on Mitchell is about improving the team in any area, no matter what the defined management roles on the team, congratulating him for not any letting any internal barriers limit him from trusting his instincts, and acting as he see fit
As a Adelaide supporter i would wanna hold on to our first rounder and draft Sid Draper if hes still available at pick 5! The kid will be a gun and he is what we are missing in our midfield.
Barrass to WB would be such a good fit IMO. Though IF I were WC I'd ask for nothing less than either a first round pick OR Khamis and a 2nd rounder. Interesting on Waterman rumours. I'd like my Roo's to consider throwing a hat onto that race. IF Zurhaar contemplated a move home then a trade of Zurhaar and a 2nd round pick for Waterman sounds like a fair trade. That's IF Zurhaar wants to leave and I doubt that's happening atm. On the English rumour, it'd be a intriguing trade if the Bulldogs wanted to trade English for Barrass and maybe a swap of 3rd round picks. Could be something worth looking at for the dogs since they have Sweet. Something to add to your news though mate is that Bailey Scott supposedly toured the GCS facilities after North's loss to Sydney not too long ago and that he flew directly up there to do that. Not alot really to be said from this though. There was inside word on Scott and his appeal to eventually go to the gold coast but its hard to really say yay or nay over it. He's much in the same way of Zurhaar and LDU as most more than likely to sign on with the Roo's. Love the trade talk and speculation though. Silly season is not that far away
they won't, they will just keep on renewing contracts to these older guys, look at NN, 2 year contract worth millions for no return, the club is run as a business instead of a football club, better to have a high profile player that is talked about by the media than someone who actually plays week in week out. Thats the reason why they are at the bottom of the ladder and will be for a few years. Hope freo flog them today.
I don't see Dusty playing at GC. Would they really even want him? There is no room in the midfield, so he would be a permanent "small" forward. I think Dusty rides off into the sunset as a one club champion of the game. He has been at the pinnacle of success multiple times, what would be his motivation?
No way the crows take on Oliver’s 1.1million dollar contract and give up pick 5. The crows would be giving up a future first round pick imo or asking for a pick from the dees
Barrass to doggies but in exchange Jed Busslinger and a future first is what I’d be asking. If that involves maybe doing a pick swap in this draft too I don’t know but that’s where I’m starting the conversation.
We are going to spiral further as the season winds up . Drastic measures will be needed when it comes to trades. Barrass Waterman and Ryan would hold good currency . We are a basket case ATM and ages before we become an attractive destination for players. Those three players wii gain us bargaining power to speed up a rebuild.
dees fan here. I dont want Houston for his asking price. We need mids and key forwards. We also need to replenish the list through the draft. Not top up with 27 year olds.
Somewhat disagree. Both Bowey and Salem have been underwhelming this year while our best half-back Rivers is surely staying in the midfield. So there is a definite need for a half-back. That being sais I agree that Houston is way too expensive and there are surely better options around.
West Coast and their supporters have no clue, the club should have started their rebuild 3 years ago and Barrass is one of the few tradable assists you have. West Coast are so far behind that they have to get worse before they get better and that's saying something given some of your performances in 2023. Outside Harley Reid and Reuben Ginbey the club has nothing and the former will be back in Victoria in a couple of years anyway. (Don't come back and tell me you have Chesser, he's overrated and injury prone) West Coast won't see the finals this decade, yes you can book your holiday's in September till 2030 at least!!!
The richest club in AFL and you reckon a decade they said same about Richmond 2016 and bought helps of talent and won 3 flags can change pretty quickly and eagles have Richmond recruitment main man it seems like you don’t like West Coast
@@nicolacantatore7095 Are you seriously comparing the 2016 Richmond list to the the 2024 West Coast list??? You're just confirming my point about how delusional West Coast supporters are. So let's go through Richmond's 2016 list and compare the differences to West Coast 2024. Note Richmond had been loading up on QUALITY draft picks for almost 10 years. Vlastin 22yrs old, Grimes 24 yrs old, Dusty 24 yrs old, Riewoldt 27 yrs old, Cotchin 26yrs old, Edwards 27 yrs old, Houli 27 yrs old, Rioli 19 yrs old, Rance 26 yrs old, Lambert 24 yrs old, Broad 23 yrs old, Short 20yrs old, Bulter 20 yrs old, Castagna 19 yrs old, Grigg 28 yrs old and Ellis 22yrs old. All of those players are premiership players, most 3 times premiership players and a large portion were first round picks. West Coast would be lucky to have a handful of quality players good enough to be premiership players under 26. 4 players out of 40 fit that criteria, Reid, Ginbey, Waterman and Allen??? The frightening thing is one of your best players Oscar Allen, a genuinely good footballer at 25 might be too old for your next serious premiership tilt. Mate, West Coast at the moment are Carlton in 2015 and Carlton went into the 2015 draft with picks 1, 9, 11 and 19. In 2015 Carlton's only 2 assets who were young enough and good enough to play be premiership players were Docherty 21 yrs old and Cripps 20 yrs old. This reminds me of exactly where West Coast are in 2024. After looking at it, you might not be a genuine till 2035!! We haven't even spoken about how the new Tassie side is going to affect your drafting. Buddy enjoy your September holiday's, at least you'll get some good holiday prices given you'll be able to book in advance.
@@robinmasters2530 never said we have same list as Richmond what I said is they are a rich club with plenty of money English to start with Baker next Garcia from bulldogs Carroll from Carlton all good midfielders trying to beak in the team and will come cheaply suddenly you have mid age young players and maybe year after Warner if he doesn’t sign with Sydney and keep there top draft pick this year or split it then Gaff Sheed darling and probably another 5 players aren’t up to AFL standards Hawthorn did a big cleanup and pick up some handy players no superstars look at them so not delusional thanks
@@nicolacantatore7095 What planet do you live on over there??? You're just further emphasising how brainwash you lot are. Sure, you're a rich club but none of that matters in the AFL, there is this thing called the salary cap and you'll also need draft picks not money to build a club. Sure you'll probabaly get English and pay overs for him, but Baker isn't a free agent meaning you'll have to trade for him. The footy community is suggest he's a back of first round draft pick, so you'll have to split your current pick 3 meaning you'll have a say pick 14 to 17 for Baker and another a pick no lower than 10. What happens to your plans if he goes to Fremantle who are also interested and have 3 first round draft picks and are at the top end of the ladder, (That's far more appealing to a guy who's used to success). So let's say all goes well, you'll have 6 good footballers English 27 next year, Baker 27 next year, Allen 26 next year, Waterman 26 next year. I'll say it again, they all could be too old for your next premiership tilt. What you need 20 to 24 year olds to support Ginbey and Reid until Reid returns to Victoria of course. Let's talk about your 20 to 24 yr old suggestions Garcia and Carroll. Garcia has been in the system 5 years and has played 29 games, that's an average of less than 6 games a year for a club who has been lost for 3 years, until now. Of the games he's played this year they were all played when the dogs were losing, this when the dogs were searching for midfield/forwards too. He largely hasn't been involved in this recent period when they've had a run of wins and I'd say there are plenty of question marks as to whether he's much better than a list clogger for a competitive team. Now you might say that he's not being played because he's been sniffing around for a trade, which brings me to my next point. He was notice touring Geelong's facility the other day, so you are no guarantee of getting him. As for Carroll, I'm a Carlton supporter and a regular track watcher, you can have him. He's a good 25th player in an injury prone contesting club at best. Carlton have had 8+ injuries all year and he's started 13 games this year, 5 or 6 as the sub. So those stats suggest he's exactly what I said the 25th best player in a contesting team or a regular in a bottom 4 team certainly not a premiership quality player! Carroll's situation reminds me a lot of Sam Petrevski-Seton situation, how did that work out for the West Coast??? You also mentioned Hawthorn, let's talk about Hawthorn, they are good developing team with a very good stable coach, do West Coast have a stable coach at the moment? You don't even have a coach???? Let's also look at there list in particular the age profile of their list. Lewis 25yrs old, Newcombe 22 yrs old, Worpel 25yrs old, Jiath 25 yrs old, Day 23 yrs old, Moore 24 yrs old, Scrimshaw, 26 yrs old, D'Amrosio 21 yrs old, Meek 25 yrs old, Weddle 20 yrs old, Grainer-Barras 22 yrs old, Ward 20 yrs old, Mackenzie 20 yrs old, Watson 19 yrs old, Macdonald 21 yrs old, Maginness 23 yr old, Ginnivan 21 yrs old, Dear 18 yrs old, Reeves 25 yrs old. That is 20 players under 26 yrs of age playing regular football in a rising winning team most of whom they drafted. West Coast have 4 players in that category and you're hoping to add 2 additions, fingers crossed of course and 2 additional list cloggers, you certainly know what they are at West Coast these days. By the way do you know who Harley Reid supported as a kid? Hawthorn. In 2 years time Harley Reid will finish off the Hawthorn list build nicely. You also mentioned your aging stars? Let's talk about your aging stars, Gaff 33 yrs old next year, Sheed 30 yrs old next year, Yeo 31 yrs old next year, Kelly 31 yrs old next year, Cripps 33 yrs old next year, McGovern 33 yrs old next year, Darling 33 yrs old next yr. What's going to happen when this largely injury prone group retire? West Coast get worse!!! And I still haven't mentioned the effect that Tasmania is going to have on the draft in the years to come!! In a previous message you mentioned that I don't like West Coast. I have nothing against West Coast or their fans. It's just that I find that the supporter base has a completely unrealistic view on their current abilities now and going forward. And the supporter base are so brainwashed that they don't realise that the club needs a complete and utter rebuild. This rebuild will take a minimum of 6 to 7 years if you get it right and I still haven't mentioned how the new Tassie will affect that???? Please send me back your counter argument god knows I need a laugh. So I'll say it again, where are you going on holidays during September for the next decade, champ???
@@nicolacantatore7095 What planet do you live on over there??? You're just further emphasising how brainwash you lot are. Sure, you're a rich club but none of that matters in the AFL, there is this thing called the salary cap and you'll also need draft picks not money to build a club. Sure you'll probably get English and pay overs for him, but Baker isn't a free agent meaning you'll have to trade for him. Most suggest he's a back of first round draft pick, so you'll have to split your current pick 3 meaning you'll have a say pick 14 to 17 for Baker and another a pick no lower than 10. What happens to your plans if he goes to Fremantle who are also interested and have 3 first round draft picks and are at the top end of the ladder, (That's far more appealing to a guy who's used to success). So let's say all goes well and you do get Baker and English you'll have 6 good footballers English 27 next year, Baker 27 next year, Allen 26 next year, Waterman 26 next year. I'll say it again, they all could be too old for your next premiership tilt. What you need 20 to 24 year olds to support Ginbey and Reid until Reid returns to Victoria of course. Let's talk about your 20 to 24 yr old suggestions Garcia and Carroll. Garcia has been in the system 5 years and has played 29 games, that's an average of less than 6 games a year for a club who has been lost for 3 years, until now. Of the games he's played this year they were all played when the dogs were losing, this when the dogs were searching for midfield/forwards too. He largely hasn't been involved in this recent period when they've had a run of wins and I'd say there are plenty of question marks as to whether he's much better than a list clogger for a competitive team. Now you might say that he's not being played because he's been sniffing around for a trade, which brings me to my next point. He was notice touring Geelong's facility the other day, so you are no guarantee of getting him. As for Carroll, I'm a Carlton supporter and a regular track watcher, you can have him. He's a good 25th player in an injury prone contesting club at best. Carlton have had 8+ injuries all year and he's started 13 games this year, 5 or 6 as the sub. So those stats suggest he's exactly what I said the 25th best player in a contesting team or a regular in a bottom 4 team certainly not a premiership quality player! Carroll's situation reminds me a lot of Sam Petrevski-Seton situation, how did that work out for the West Coast??? You also mentioned Hawthorn, let's talk about Hawthorn, they are good developing team with a very good stable coach, do West Coast have a stable coach at the moment? You don't even have a coach???? Let's also look at there list in particular the age profile of their list. Lewis 25yrs old, Newcombe 22 yrs old, Worpel 25yrs old, Jiath 25 yrs old, Day 23 yrs old, Moore 24 yrs old, Scrimshaw, 26 yrs old, D'Amrosio 21 yrs old, Meek 25 yrs old, Weddle 20 yrs old, Grainer-Barras 22 yrs old, Ward 20 yrs old, Mackenzie 20 yrs old, Watson 19 yrs old, Macdonald 21 yrs old, Maginness 23 yr old, Ginnivan 21 yrs old, Dear 18 yrs old, Reeves 25 yrs old. That is 20 players under 26 yrs of age playing regular football in a rising winning team most of whom they drafted. West Coast have 4 players in that category and you're hoping to add 2 additions, fingers crossed of course and 2 additional list cloggers, you certainly know what they are at West Coast these days. By the way do you know who Harley Reid supported as a kid? Hawthorn. In 2 years time Harley Reid will finish off the Hawthorn list build nicely. You also mentioned your aging stars? Let's talk about your aging stars, Gaff 33 yrs old next year, Sheed 30 yrs old next year, Yeo 31 yrs old next year, Kelly 31 yrs old next year, Cripps 33 yrs old next year, McGovern 33 yrs old next year, Darling 33 yrs old next yr. What's going to happen when this largely injury prone group retire? West Coast get even worse!!! And I still haven't mentioned the effect that Tasmania is going to have on the draft in the years to come!! In a previous message you mentioned that I don't like West Coast. I have nothing against West Coast or their fans. It's just that I find that the supporter base has a completely unrealistic view on their current abilities and where they are going. And the supporter base are so brainwashed that they don't realise that the club needs a complete and utter rebuild. This rebuild will take a minimum of 6 to 7 years if you get it right and again, I still haven't mentioned how the new Tassie will affect that???? Please send me back your counter argument, god knows I need another laugh. So I'll say it again, where are you going on holidays during September for the next decade, champ???
Hawks are into barrass and have a first rnd pick and pies 2nd! So hawks get battle perimen as free agents and barrass for pick 10 and denver granger barras! If i was eagles id take that in spades! Whats dogs got to match that!! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆
