Can't wait for Americas! There aren't so mich languages, so it would be better to make a big video with all America, not dividing it in South and North. Anyway, you're one of the best linguists. Your series about Pictish helped me with my Pictish project. Thank you, and continue this series, please!
@@cosmosapian628 There is much information about most of the languages of America. Yes, there are some hidden and forbidden languages, but even so, in this type of videos we do not need a full exploration and scientific research about these languages.
9:31 the real poignant tragedy in my eyes is the total loss of Christianity and Latinity down there. One thing is accepting a situation like Syria, with Christians a distinct minority, one thing is the total eradication of a culture.
Really cool video. I like this series very much. One recommendation would be a video about the German dialects/languages. Anyways, keep doing this stuff. Its great work!
My family and I speak Shilha and I know about the phoenician, arabic and spanish influence in our language, but I would like to know examples of hebrew and aramaic influence because I can't see it, do you have any?
We will need to find someone who can speak both Hebrew / Aramaic and Shilha, I would say. The point, however is these two lived with each other for nearly 2,000 years and even created Judeo-Berber Languages - it is near impossible for Hebrew and Aramaic not to have influenced Shilha.
@@BenLlywelyn I am pretty sure Aramaic has not any influence whatsoever on shilha. Also I think Hebrew has a very little influence, most berber jews didn't speak Hebrew, only berber, so Hebrew couldn't have a lasting influence on berber. Also Jews have been here for more than 2000 years, so they stopped using Hebrew a long time ago.
So many languages (and events and places) I never even heard about! :O I spoke sometimes with a person who identified himself as "Berber" and nothing else (so, not a country name from North Africa). Also, the Arabian assault conquest from the Arabian Peninsula through the whole of North Africa, even to the Iberian Peninsula (including the desolation of an empire so iconic and ancient like Egypt) always amazed me. However, as you mentioned, this is genocide looked away, so that also makes me uneasy. And that's an entire different story altogether.
Arabs massacred us in the 8th century but it wasn't a genocide, we massacred the Arabs too during the Great Berber Revolt, most of North Africa is populated by arabized berbers. We are all genetically berbers but the majority got arabized especially during the 20th century in Algeria and Morocco for nationalist purposes.
There are Berbers in modern Egypt and I saw in a video some time ago where one of the Egyptian Berbers stated their language is most similar to Chaois (Spelling?). It may be of interest to investigate given the distance. Also, the script you used in discussing Kel Tamasheq (Tuareg) was the Neo-Tifinagh script created by Berber Academy (Kabyle Berbers in France). Tifinagh is the original and only surviving script from Old Libyan and doesn't use vowel (circles) between consonant letters. When it does use vowels or ligatures with vowels, they are dots not circles. There are other differences as well. Visually Tifinagh and the Kel Tamasheq scripts... there are several related scripts... look mostly the same.
@@BenLlywelyn I put the question mark because I wasn't clear on the spelling. However, the more important connection may be the languages being the same in two distant regions.
@@BenLlywelyn it is a big area but there aren’t many languages in the area compared to other areas of similar size I could probably list all of them off the top of my head tbh
My friends Arabic is just the final nail in the carpet this language is die out when Phoenician and the Greek and Roman when the Arab Conquer Tunisia they found many people speak Latin more than native language the reason you see more amazing language survive in Morocco another of this Empire stay long rolling in Morocco
Arab conquerors found the entire region speaking Latin & African Romance they called them 'Al-afariqa' and these afariqa taught Arabs that Barbarians live to the West so they called them 'Barbar' (Berber) ... Today both Darija & Berber have some Latin & African Romance Sprinkles .
@@zariaalhajmoustafa2573 The conquest for the most part is a matter of arms ... that's true, Latin (+Romance Languages) was the Lingua Franca in western Mediterranean
It Represents Zenata people being the most to be spread across the entirety of north Africa (From Morocco to Libya) ... some Zenati tribes live in the yellow (Sahara) like Mzab the green (Mountains & Plains) like Chawiya & ath-Snous (my People) and the Blue (Mediterranean sea) like Riffians & Chenwa . Just kidding 😂 No one knows And that's just my own opinion .
This series is really good. Waiting for the click sounds languages of Africa and surprisingly i found a click in Europe. Including myself and in Romania, the tsk click wich means no. In Turkey this tsk meaning no its the most widespread. It definatevely comes from the oldest language, Gobleki Tepe people. I assume the Tsk click for no could be celtic as it is in Romania too, maybe Bulgaria also.( in Bulgaria they also shake heads like no, for ies wich is very confusing and same like the bosimani, the San).
A Berber language that also was lost is Guanche, the language spoken by the native Berbers of the Canary Islands who had a vibrant culture with songs dresses and Gods and who like the Egyptians had a way to mummify their dead, speakers of Guanche were massacred by the Spanish with the remainder of them becoming spanish, today the Canary Islands are just like any other Spanish region and today the Guanche language is dead
The Canaries also regard themselves as a Amazigh/Berber land however their language is long gone Also many Sephardic Jews are also likely to be of Amazigh origin having arrived with the Arab armies in the 8th century
@@BenLlywelyn 'According to a 1936 survey, approximately 145,700 of Morocco's 161,000 Jews spoke a variety of Berber, 25,000 of whom were reportedly monolingual in the language.' (Judeo-Berber language, Wikipedia)
Diolch yn fawr, Ben. The Romans considered only three languages to be civilized: Latin, Greek and Punic (Carthaginian). The Egyptians considered the Libyans - there word for all the Berber peoples - to speak in a way that only made them fit for slavery. And now the Arabs have arrived with an obscure 7th century proto-Arabic from the Peninsula (now called Classical Arabic) that is wreaking linguistic genocide on Africa. Add to that the nutter American Evangelicals who are driving the languages south of the Sahel into extinction through Anglo-Christianization.
Are you focused on Greek Egyptians? Libya and Libyan are Greek derived names as is "Egyptian." The people of Kemet had many names for North Western African ethnic groups with Tamahu being a frequent one and likely most connected to one of the modern day Kel Tamasheq (Tuareg) clans. But in any case, having little to do with slavery since there was not a slave industry or at least not one comparable to the later civilizations of Greek and Rome.
@@kemetnubiakamp Great comment. I am not referring to Hellenic Egypt. I am referring to the Egypt during the Middle Kingdom and before. The Narmer Palette - c.31st century BCE - shows Narmer - the first to unify Upper and Lower Egypt - striking a Libyan with a weapon. This was millennia before Hellenic Egypt that you refer to and clearly demonstrates the Ancient Egyptians' attitudes towards Berbers..
@@radiojet1429 Combatting enemies is not about enslavement. Kemet's enemies were Libyans, Nubians, and Asiatics. There's no indication those on Narmer's are specifically Libyan. We just know various people were living in Lower Egypt and that Narmer conquered them to create one nation.
@@BenLlywelyn No no that is not what i meant, i thought your name is ben, so i wrote like a common Hebrew praise that means, i appreciate you personally and i adore you, אין אליך.
I made 34 or so Welsh History videos last year. Will make another Welsh Language lesson, but I accept now it does not get the views to sustain the channel's growth alone.
Because it is ...not even talking about long ago even just after independence Morocco Algeria and libya all started "arabization" where these governments refused to acknowledge our very existence it was illegal to teach broadcast or write in it +they literally forced Arabic only in education and propaganda to make ppl think that we don't exist The governments treated us and our language worse than the language of the former colonizers a mandatory subject as they are still a mandatory
Arabization is pretty recent in Morocco, it only started after the french colonization because france saw that arabs are easier to rule sinc only amazigh tribes fought them to the death. So 70 years of arabization only in Morocco not centuries like many believe. Morocco defeated the omeyyads (assyrians+arabs+egyptians) in 740 and arabs never came back since then. all the so called arabs in Morocco are amazigh people victims of the Arabization process
That's pretty much the standard story across the MENA nation's as Arabia being an empty land could not overwhelm its subjects genetically nor linguistically resulting in the assimilation process taking centuries
True, National georgraphic did a DNA study n Tunisia (where historically, omeyyads stayed longer) and found that 88% of tunisians have amazigh DNA and only 4% was from the middle east. Another study in Iberia by Oxford found that 11% of Iberian DNA is Amazigh from Morocco mostly and 0% Arab, which shows that arabs are just a myth in both Morocco and Andalusia. Unfortunately, this cultural appropriation is funded by petrodollars
Despite Arabic & french being much common to be used in north Africa due to historical background - no genocide ever took place And the assimilation into Arabic was willingly, "Some"berbers forget their identity and language without being forced to do so
@@TheKamperfoelie No I am berber myself and he's saying the truth sadly, the berber arabized themselves lol. Even today I can see many people like my cousin not speaking berber and only arabic while their parents speak berber.
