After Effects needs to be Rewritten or We're NOT Using this F*ing Program | CorridorCast EP 

Adobe reminds me of autodesk too. They both became the industry standard for years, and now they have actual competition (some of it is even free) they just assume their industry standard status will do all the work for them

Niko lying down and talking about the things he does so passionately is such a bro vibe

24:54 You guys should have a race: Adobe Suite Team vs Da Vinci Resolve only Team to see how fast they can edit the same raw videos into a short movie. :)

I haven’t resonated with an issue so DAMN hard in a while. Especially with premiere, thousands of crashes. Wren, i feel your pain.

After 30 years of Adobe, and 20 years of seeing them care more about the share holders than making a decent product, this was pure stress relief - Thanks! BTW, I use Blender and Resolve daily!

This podcast is the most accurate depiction of how I've been feeling for a while now.

Full time AE generalist here: Most of the functionality I like in AE comes from 3rd party plugins and scripts which makes every update a total crap shoot potentially breaking multiple plugins or causing hard to diagnose problems. Add that to daily crashes, slow playback, and general jank i've been feeling all the same pain.

The whole studio?!?! 😱 We need to lie down as well

One of the best things about DaVinci Resolve is that the free version can do nearly everything a small studio or individual might need. Barring the limitations of the free version, it's only $295 for the full studio version, and you get free upgrades to newer versions afterwards for life. That's less than HALF of what they're paying for one license of AE for a year.

We need those songs on spotify

I’m a professional motion designer and After Effects is the worst god damn application on the planet. I’m so glad you guys are talking about this. A company I was working at a couple years ago was acquired by Adobe and I immediately went and found another job and turned down their job offer because I’m so beyond frustrated with their software. I felt their lack of innovation and lack of care would likely show through in my employee experience. The shitty part about all of this is I’m completely locked to AE as a motion designer. There’s really no replacement at this point. You compositors at least have Nuke as an option. This most recent Adobe update has been the straw that broke the camels back. They took the time to redo and revamp the UI for premieres exporter, but can’t fix the fucking eye dropper tool crashing the system. It’s beyond ridiculous.

Man Fenner and Jordan have been such fantastics addition to the crew in general.

Three years ago I switched religions from Mac to PC because of two things: a) wanted something optimized for Blender, and b) wanted a machine that would finally have a GPU that AE would recognize. Good news... Blender runs GREAT!

Professional Motion Designer here: completely agree about after effects crashes... it's really brutal.

4:50 Rendering MOV 12:43 Filter on multiple layer + specified adjustment layers 13:28 Shifting to DaVinci Resolve, Nuke, Fusion 19:19 Crashes 21:55 GPU usage 24:19 No drama with saving in DaVinci Resolve 48:55 Offer to Foundry 55:00 Davinci Resolve ist free, like Blender, like Unreal Engine 56:18 AI Object Masking in Davinci Resolve

Oh yeah! Please have the ceo of adobe on! Everything is so buggy. I would have switched already I I had the time to learn a new program.

and all of Blackmagic Design has 1,500 employees. I would loooove to hear a conversation between the Crew and Grant Petty

The fact that most other animators and video editors I interact with are using older versions of the adobe software should speak something about the quality of the product vs the desire for stability of artists & designers. I can't afford to lose a week/month worth of work because of random unexplainable tech issues, opening a file that was working 15 minutes ago to find it corrupted after my lunch break, or DYNAMIC LINKING being an absolute DUMPSTER FIRE and virtually unusable... So I use older patches of after effects because they are at least 80% stable. Sucks that we settle for such low standards because they are a main stream tool. #PleaseFixAfterEffects

Adobe's 26k employees is about as funny as Twitters R&D budget of like 370 MILLION DOLLARS per quarter :D On what?!

I switched to Resolve last year, never looked back. And my god, Resolve looks so much nicer and more modern as well. Premiere looks incredibly outdated compared to it. There are also hundreds of quality of life improvements, like live effects preview on current footage, creating zooms and pans just based on visual square previews, STABILITY, etc. Way too much to list here.

I have a Motion Design Studio (Supernova Duo), and a Motion Design School (Layer Lemonade) here in Brazil, and I've been saying this for almost 10 years: After Effects needs to be rewritten from scratch. The way it is today it's total garbage, but unfortunately the entire Motion industry forces us to use it. There are projects where customers already ask for Collect File from AE, without even knowing if we will use AE. We were hoping that Cavalry would somehow be an option to AE, but the guys ended up going for something more procedural.

This was so cathartic. Thank you! This video inspired me to drop Premiere... actually, Niko also pushed me to stop using FCP 7.0 back during the X days, so he's always been a guiding light in the changing landscape of production software.

As a former IT tech, I can confirm that the consumer level Adobe products are also full of jank and needless complication. The Creative Cloud programs are so buried in ads and always online nonsense that it takes a professional just to get it working.

I've been using Blender for 5 years now and I feel this same enthusiasm from the development team for their product. That not only creates a fantastic product but a great community of artists that are genuinely excited for update's the software. They're not constantly in fear that an update will kill the program or project file. I feel like I'm working with the program instead of against it. Really interesting conversation guys!

i havent opened Premiere in YEARS. I work on set and try to tell people how much better Resolve is, but they will never listen. One day they will see, they will all see.

I see a future where Corridor has its own software dept. Just making the best editing and effects programs for the little guys.

The Houdini getting acquired by Adobe example got me because it reminded of Softimage getting acquired by Autodesk. That broke my heart as XSI was a brilliant piece of software that didn't deserve to get swept under the rug.

So the last time Adobe raised their prices I went fuck this and transitioned away from their software. I'm not a professional, I'm a hobbiest, I can't possibly justify the price they're asking for their license on a monthly basis. Now that I'm out of their ecosystem I've found the alternatives I've found to work better and not completely shit the bed.

It's so interesting hearing the talk about Resolve vs Premiere vs Final Cut. I work in tv and we don't use any of those. We mostly all still use Avid Media Composer which has been the Hollywood standard editing program basically since before editing was done on computers. They did the full from the ground up code re-write a few years ago and it's been soooooo much better than how it used to be (was similar to After Effects/Premiere in that it was layers and layers of ancient code). It's not a great program for RU-vidrs or content creators though, it's very geared toward Hollywood video editing use cases, but it shocks me that even a big old traditional company that is generally very slow to change like Avid did a full rebuild of Media Composer before Adobe did a full rebuild of Premiere and After Effects. That's how much Adobe is lagging behind the industry.

So, when we went to the After Effects conference in 2014, we were told that everything that adobe offers is basically ancillary to Acrobat and PDF. Those get all the love because those make all the money. Photoshop is the next best thing, and the others just have to fight for resources.

Damn, this is the first episode that got me to go on RU-vid just to comment, because how much it resonates with me. I started in Adobe for video and slowly moved away from it, because I didn't want to pirate it. However, last year I got my first part-time job doing post-production work for a YT channel which used Adobe only workflow. For me, AE which I use heavily, works quite well, but Premiere, where I need to edit it all together, is hell. Every time I get close to finishing an episode I find myself reloading project, relinking media, rebooting PC and overall fighting against Premiere at 2 AM. I don't swear very much, but Premiere got me shouting at my monitor, which didn't happen even during Dark Souls. Actually few days before this podcast I've decided to change my workflow to Resolve for editing, AE for VFX, Premiere for subtitles (because I need one Adobe font...) and back to Resolve for color, sound and export. All that trasferring just to avoid using Premiere as much as possible. From the beginning my passion has been 3D and I've been using Blender for that. It has its flaws, but is is stable, it autosaves all the time, has versatile UI and overall I can rely on it. If free software can do that, what are you doing here Adobe?

I've been using AE since 1997 and I have broken nearly every version released since. Before CC, Devs told me they couldn't fix bugs because the shareholders would think that those were feature updates and they didn't want them given away for free. Now they're piling on features without reworking the program to make it the speed professionals need, or testing basic things to see if they work. I have never seen the UI as sluggish as the last few versions. Adobe has diversified their product line so much that they suffer from a scatter-brain development cycle where one project in their product line is given a bunch of attention and everything else falls to the side forgotten. I don't know where the short sighted goals originate in the company, but it's the most frustrating aspect of Adobe.

I pictured Niko's smile when it was said he told the new guy "It can be done tomorrow. Go home." Sometimes I push myself too hard at my job too, and need to be told by a veteran to take it easy.

I'm glad you guys are talking about this, just last night I was sitting in my bed thinking: "I'm done with premiere, I can't handle the jank anymore, it will take me a long time to learn resolve so i have to jump ship now"

I'm glad to see it's not just me struggling with simple playback. I pulled up my old Resolve key and I'm going to work on switching from PR. Thanks!

This is my new favorite thing to listen too while I work. Get a good laugh but also some good conversations about the industry and the state of tools & software. Great stuff.

blender has becoming very powerful in the last few years and it seems to be picking up in speed still. It is great for one person to use but it still needs some work as a tool thats part of a pipeline. I hope that this changes soon when large companies with currently rigid maya pipelines get fed up enough to drop it

This is the most relatable video I have watched in years. I thought I was going crazy. Thank you Corridor.

Thank you for raising awareness about this. But I think more people should talk about this, because Adobe doesn't care about normal users, they just treat them as beta testers... while they are paying for their software. Their forums are filled with angry customers, a lot of people talk about how they should stop adding new features and rewrite whole software and Adobe just ignores it. And the most bizzare thing is how they are fixing bugs. You have to report them on their website and other users have to vote for it, otherwise they wont even consider fixing it. Also its so badly optimized, so badly that it hurts. Were living in times when realtime photorealistic graphics is possible and in After Effects you just animate few shapes and its already lagging, its just ridiculous... Imagine what Unreal Engine team could do with it... It makes me really sad and depressed, because I really liked the program a lot. And now, every time I use it, it's doing stupid things which is leading to many stressing situations. Unfortunately I dont believe Adobe will wake up. This goes way beyond just After Effects, the whole Creative Cloud system just doesnt work.

The good thing about open source software is that they really care about the quality of the code, if it shitty someone else is going to write something else, maybe because it is on the open.

I used to be a FCP/FCPX and Motion user in the past, about 10 years ago. Apple made several bad moves in term of OS and hardware so I decided to build a PC. I looked in at Adobe, hated AE. I tried out Hitfilm, loved parts of it but I had major troubles with it and I spent a lot of time with their tech support but could never really get it to work correctly and then I tested Resolve and Fusion. I have been using Resolve and Fusion for about 9 years now, unfortunately not as much as I would want because I do not get a lot of work in video production, but I never regretted buying my dongles. Except when they announced that the Fusion dongle would also activate Resolve, which is a good thing, but I was stuck with 2 dongles that gave me the same thing. So I sold the Resolve dongle. I love to see Fusion struggling with 95% of 128gb of RAM allocated to it. I don’t hit it often but when I see it it gives me happy feelings

as someone who is always dealing with these problems and always having a bad time on edits with Adobe products, this is so great to see these guys just laughing and ranting. I'll be making the jump to resolve here in a few months.

I’ve been using photoshop since version 5.0, started using it when I was like 12 years old. Now I’m a professional photographer and occasionally direct stuff. I completely agree with everything said, the second I find a good replacement for photoshop I’ll leave adobe. For most of my photography workflow I use Capture One and the video editor I work with now uses Davinci Resolve. I’m done with Adobe, fed up. I can’t even name one issue because it will start a rant that might never stop. I’ve been using Blender for two years now and it’s amazing and free! It feels like what software should feel like.

I actually love this for you guys! I remember years ago I was able to chat with Wren live and asked him about Nuke, since I was starting to learn it and he was like yeah thats an awesome industry standard. So happy that you guys are starting to branch out and see the potential of other softwares. Also am a full blown fusion and resolve user now haha!

I work at a VFX company and use AE every day. Every time a client delivers footage in ACES it’s the most grueling back in forth to figure out how to work with the footage. I bet we’ll all be transitioning to Nuke in 1-2 years.

I am so glad Blender is getting backed by legit companies instead of bought out. Its really such an interesting and refreshing thing to see in the industry. I still cry everyday I see the original Algorithmic launcher saying it will be disbanded in September also screw Adobe for not including it in the "All Apps" subscription. So another 20$ for just the original Algorithmic pack or ANOTHER 50$ for all of the 3D stepchildren they have acquired is such a slap in the face. Also still will wont forgive them for choosing that spinach/neon green for the 3D applications. They also manipulated updates for Substance Painter until they integrated into the CC....

This podcast made me realize how much I want to switch to davinci/blender/ue5, thanks guys

So cool to hear you are moving to DaVinci Resolve. As someone starting out, and without any major ambitions to filmmaking (just instructional videos on YT), I came to it and was really impressed how much it could do in the free version. I thought it seemed like the right way to go, and this podcast confirms that impression. I'd love it if you guys started doing tutorials or general information videos showing Resolve workflow. You are a great way to learn while getting excited about the possibilities of tools.

Saving files is the number one feature in any new software as the worst thing is working on something for hours for it not to save because of one crash

Earlier this year I had to switch back to Premiere Pro from the free version Davinci Resolve (I couldn't wait to buy the studio version) because of file compatibility. I discovered sooo quickly how much more stable DR is. Premiere crashed daily, sometimes a few times per day.

Going into my third year exclusively editing on Davinci, it is so refreshing seeing some of my favorite content creators taking notice.

I'm a full-time social editor, mostly tik toks and instagram reels, and I deal with multiple premiere crashes DAILY. I've lost progress on so many projects in the past month from these issues. Getting so damn close to switching to resolve.

This is the most irate I've ever seen Niko... but he looks so relaxed!

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME! I KEPT GETTING GASLIT BY PEERS TELLING ME IT WAS MY WORKFLOW OR SOMETHING! I've since moved to Resolve for editing and am way less mad at editing. It just fucking works holy shit what a concept. I just need to learn fusion for compositing, I am so used to the layer-based way of doing things and have so many plugins for it. The color nodes in resolve are definitely prepping me though, the tracker and power windows in the color tab are enough for most simple things like corrective makeup, or blurring faces, or tracking text. Thanks for this you guys!!

i know its a long shot but i hope to see a full length feature film from all you guys ,a 2 hour masterpiece or something

I've heard an argument saying something like - I wouldn't even pirate Adobe, because it ensures their softwares stays relevant, preventing proper competitions.

It's become pretty much standard that after upgrading to a new version suddenly something that used to work just fine in earlier versions suddenly doesn't work anymore. Like the time when prores4444 files suddenly were missing all the skintones or the random crashes for whatever reason.

I transitioned to Davinci Resolve 3 years ago, and the difference in stability and workflow is incredible. In fact, we are finishing my new feature completely in Resolve, from editing to mixing (fairlight has become very good). There is no going back, having editing, color and mastering in a single program is irreplaceable.

I share the same gripes! It's heartbreaking at this point.

I love this episode because I've been experiencing all these things with Adobe! You have converted me, I am going to try Resolve asap

Your Adobe problems are exactly the situation with Maya and Autodesk right now. I can't count the times over the last 5 years where Maya has full-on bent us over a barrel and we had to grit our teeth. I imagine other studios are in a similar situation, but we can't just pivot to Blender because of the amount of pipeline we have invested in Maya and knowledge of it. It's sunk cost fallacy 101.

I freelanced for a year using after effects and premiere and quickly hit a bottleneck once the work became too much for the program to handle. With AE at a certain point no amount of extra RAM, GPU, or CPU will help you. The program has an inherent bottleneck for some reason and I would literally have to run 8 to 16 hour renders on a workstation PC just to pump out 2 minutes of keying with some extra FX. Keying is not a complex operation to run and I know that because Nuke handles it 10-20x faster. AE is also not built for renders that take 8 hours or more so you will end up with green frames once in a while. This happened to me several times on tight deadlines for music video work. AE needs to be rewritten for a true linear workflow and GPU optimization for it to be competitive. I switched to Nuke two years ago when I started working at a studio and now I even shelled out for a personal license (foundry has abysmal up front costs). I hate to say it, but even the insane cost saved me money/time in the end. AE is a great tool to get your feet wet and it was the tool that started my journey in VFX. However, I think if someone asked me what program they should start learning today I would suggest Nuke or Fusion. Once you use nodes you will never go back to layers.

OMG, re-feeling all the pain watching you guys going through the things that AE is missing...

Niko positioning his mike directly above his head while chilling on the couch is so comfy

I’m a commercial illustrator and cartoonist and I’ve been working with Adobe products professionally for 20 years. And I must say that Photoshop is also not fine. It’s what you guys said, you don’t know you’re missing something until you’re out. I stopped using Adobe in mid 2021 and I’m super happy about it. My main programs on Adobe were Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign. I’ve been using Procreate and the Serif products (Affinity Photo, Designer and Publisher) ever since. Not only they’re way more stable they all have a bunch of features that I didn’t know I was missing. The experience to draw on procreate is leaps ahead of what Photoshop offers. I’ve been advocating against Adobe for more than a year now

I really like how Resolve has a very good free version, probably does a lot to get people into using it at the start and then pay for premium features later.

This whole sesh was the most cathartic and vicariously lived vibe yet

I love your talk about companies taking on new work and your general work culture there. I wish that culture was more common at tech companies.

the 26k employee thing blows my mind. Because everyone close to After Effects always defends the issues with "but they're such a small team" WHY! GET A BIGGER TEAM, YOU'RE MAKING BILLIONS!

Whenever I see that some software uses a subscription model instead of a single purchase I immediately back out and look somewhere else. I'm rocking Vegas Pro 15, Blender, and some others like that and I have no regrets. Granted I don't do this professionally, but still I regret nothing.

This was so satisfying to watch. I can relate in so many areas. Increasingly hating Adobe Premiere and AfterEffects, using Nuke NC more and more to test if my ideas work. Switched from 3dsmax to Blender, using Premiere at work but at home using DaVinci Resolve, and checking stockmarket from time to time :) Right now my AfterFX hate is toward not being able to zoom into pixel level so that I can see those big squares while edge grading my keys. And another one is not being able to separate x and y scaling on graph editor.

@34:35 right as you said, “Hard stop on the marketing speech”, the video was interrupted by an ad for Premiere. 😆

Cavalry feels like how i wish AE was. I hope it continues to progress although it's more shape-based motion graphics app, it's like C4d Nodes and AE at once.

I am so happy that I don't need premiere pro or after effects started learning everything in resolve (just the free version) sadly for uni I DO need to use Maya for animation

I discovered visual effects back in high school around 2007 and started with After Effects, FCP7 and Photoshop. Life was great back then, maybe I wasn’t doing anything too complicated but the software never got in the way of my creativity. Over the years since, I feel like it’s been like an abusive relationship where things were great at first but they slowly began to deteriorate yet I stuck with it because of the sunk cost fallacy. I put so much work into learning the Adobe ecosystem that it felt painful not being able to just hop in and get to work when learning a new platform, kinda like when I tried skiing after snowboarding for a decade. That said, over the pandemic, I’ve downloaded Resolve, Blender and Unreal and I’ve put in about 20 hours of learning on each one to at least reach a level of familiarity to use it on a project if need be. The problem with these new programs is none of my jobs request these programs. Most companies with in-house teams want to see that you are proficient in Adobe software since they’ve established themselves as an industry standard outside of Hollywood where there’s a ton more money and customers. At this point, Adobe can’t afford to mess with their frontline products. If they re-write them, they still need to work like they do now from a UI and workflow perspective. They’re the expensive bundle option at the moment, but if they keep this up, they just might lose some market share.

Dang, this topic brought back a part of my past I had long thought forgotten. A friend of mine back in 2004-2005 had actually *bought and paid for* Adobe Premiere and After Effects to work on his indie film. He had done all the effects and compositing in AE himself and gotten them to look how he wanted them to, but they would never render into Premiere without constant corruption and crashing even though branded as part of the first Creative Suite it was touted as having great interoperability and integration. He ended up having to recreate inferior versions of the effects and compositing directly in Premiere using Premiere's much more limited offerings of whatever tools After Effects had available. He released the thing in 2005, but it was unfortunate that his vision ended up being compromised by the tools he paid money to use. Meanwhile, years later I myself learned video editing and compositing on Mac first using iMovie then the Apple Final Cut Studio 3 package with the last FCP before X (IIRC FCP7?) and Motion 3, and boy howdy do I wish there was a free video editor and effects compositor that was as robust as and smooth as and had deep integration like those two programs do!

I'm a junior compositor at a vfx studio - I learned on AE and Fusion, but once I moved to Nuke and dedicated myself to learning it every day it changed everything for me. Fusion is still much much better than AE but I've gone back to it recently for smaller projects that I work on in Resolve (ditched Premiere after 8+ years as well - unbearably buggy) and Fusion has a few of its own annoying limitations or issues that make Nuke more attractive. Regardless, I've just found that comping in layer-based software is a nightmare and it didn't really help me understand HOW visual effects worked. It was a great intro, but beyond that first year or so it held me back.

I switched to FCPX four years ago because I would rather take a hit in features than deal with the Premiere issues even then. Switched to Resolve 1.5 years ago and I was back home. Proper editing. It may be that BMD catches up to AVID in terms of industry standard tools.

I've recently started to teach myself video editing. Premier constantly crashes. And the Media Encoder isn't too far behind. It's so comforting to know I'm not a complete moron with an innate talent to destroy electronics by merely being in their presence. I thought I might have been importing my files wrong. Maybe I was right-clicking too fast or a little too left. Turns out it's just a 2022 program still struggling with 2002 problems. Cool.

I'm a combustion orphan. Man I do miss it, it was so good to work, compose, everything. And I remember how I was so much enchanted by the proposal of Autodesk Inferno workstations.

I really REALLY hope Adobe listens to this and then reads all the comments after. I personally feel what you feel, and have had similar conversations with mates in the industry about Premier’s issues. I think I might have to download DaVinci Resolve tomorrow….

this has pushed me to download the free version and give Resolve a chance. I'll probably buy the full version soon.

8:02 Exactly! This is what I deal with all the time for my work!

Just updated my Premiere to 22.4. There're those new tabs at the top like Resolve, they are very neat to be honest. But when you try to click on the import or export tab, there's an inexplicable lag, like, took about 5 seconds to open the tab. In the third time I try to change tabs, they didn't work. It kept in the Editing tab no matter what. Had to restart the app to be able to render the video. So sad to see those adobe apps working like that

It's interesting how real time game engines can be faster in terms of performance than adding simple 2D modifications to flat footage.

DAVINCI RESOLVE FOR THE WIN!!! It took me a week to learn and I was able to use it well enough to do editing effectively. I don’t even want to talk about adobe😩😭

22:20 Legit! 😂 I've been working in Premiere for years (and honestly never ever had any issues) and always thought the work was quite bland until we got to colour and sound mix etc. But just switched to DaVinci last week and I now realise what I've been missing. I have an RTX 3090 FE as well! So much better.

Lol, getting flashbacks to 2015, when I had to make the leap to Resolve because I was getting constant errors and crashes from Pr. I only did one project before CC updated and I ran back to my cosy little environment.

Mixamo stopped updating and actually lost features (like a Maya autorig tool, which included importing and baking animation for game engines) once Adobe bought it. After a short time, Adobe removed all of the character files that users had uploaded to use with the mocap library.

We really need an alternative that isn’t a subscription model and a real competitor.

I... am... SO... happy to hear this! I just installed PP22 and wanted to use it for a client assignment and I hated EVERYTHING about that version. What is up with that new interface where you have to click 50.000 buttons to import media to the project?!? And then my ripple shortcuts also didn't work, so I deleted that version and just went back to the last stable version I was using. I do create a lot of templates for myself in the workflow in PP like using the mogrt files and that. Does DaVinci have something similar to that?

Can we take a moment to appreciate Jake's creative sponsorship segments? Don't get me wrong, I hate ads, but he's doing a great job! I actually watch most of them, because of how creative they are

Let’s gooo Jake is back!!!

Davinci Resolve gives an editor their life back.

You guys are so lucky to be able to say your mind and not have people shit on you. By the way I moved to resolve 3 years ago, I uninstalled premiere a few weeks after and I uninstalled after effects and encoder a few weeks ago after years of paying but not using them.

I use Resolve and it's certainly crashed on me a couple times but I'm NEVER worried I lost work. It's always saving.

Recently tried Resolve's Smooth Cut feature and it worked instantly compared to Morph Cut on premiere which legit takes about a minute to analyze and then render for playback and the smallest of change will require a redo. For grading and cutting, Resolve has definitely replaced Adobe for me. I'm still faster in AE than Fusion even with all the bugs. This year's MFR and Roto Brush 2 was a welcome upgrade.... just need more of these low level improvements and Adobe Sensei features to utilize those idling GPU tensor cores, and AE can regain prominence in video production pipeline.

I compare using Premiere to kicking the corner of a furniture. Resolve rocks!

Same here... Premiere had a graphic glitch/bug after an update and i just couldnt fix it. I even made a fresh install of the older version and updated all my drivers but it still was there. I got so frustrated that I started learning resolve until the bug was fixed with another update. But it was too late... I never touched premiere again.

Great podcast to listen to while I try to track something on after effects and the damn thing won't work