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Aftermath of a Bear Attack on our Hives [Will the bees survive?] 

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A bear attack is never a good thing, especially if you're a beekeeper. They can really do some damage to your hives, and more times than not, they don't even clean up the mess. ;-)
That's where we join John and Corinne in this video. After spotting the hives toppled over, Corinne notified John and they went to work. This area isn't necessarily a great spot for an electric fence, but we may have to make some adjustments to make sure Mr Bear doesn't return for a free meal.
If you're a beekeeper, you know how tough it can be to raise a successful hive year after year. With things like bears, storms, and heat - sometimes it can seem like an uphill battle. Luckily, Central Beekeepers Supply is here to help. We carry all kinds of equipment to help you keep bees healthy and happy all year long. From feed to hive boxes, cone traps to protective gear, we have it all. Come by and see us in beautiful Russellville, Arkansas - located conveniently off of I-40. Or visit us at our online store at www.centralbeekeeperssupply.com. Thanks for watching!
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@russellaymond312
@russellaymond312 Год назад
Hope you are ready for his return,glad the damage was not worse.
@glennsnaturalhoney4571
@glennsnaturalhoney4571 Год назад
Good luck. Hope her majesty is safe inside. 👸
@mikekemsley1531
@mikekemsley1531 Год назад
We've been keeping bees since around 1975. Never had bear problems until they blasted the top of a mountain about 15 years ago to put up wind turbines. The bears move down into the valley. The only thing that worked keeping them out of the hives is 4 strands of electric fence with a little peanut butter. And the honest charger I could find. No more problems.
@LucBeeHiveNB
@LucBeeHiveNB Год назад
Here in New-Brunswick, the Blueberry field are cutting everything "clean cut" and people are starting to see more black bear and new bear where it was never a problem before. I use patriot p20 and the big male 800lbs still try the fence once every 2week. He broke 3top wire on 5wire and run away "lucky bee"
@elbowgreaseandducttape
@elbowgreaseandducttape Год назад
Thank you for sharing
@KidGarden100
@KidGarden100 11 месяцев назад
damn! this is my worst nightmare a bear getting a hold of a hive you did pretty great cleaning that mess up well done
@stampingfunwithgaildavenpo1318
I am so sorry this happened. Glad it is able to be fixed.
@franknixon9931
@franknixon9931 11 месяцев назад
😊😊
@stevesoutdoorworld4340
@stevesoutdoorworld4340 Год назад
It's crazy how much pain a bear can take with them bees trying to rip his face off.
@beefriendlychannel7965
@beefriendlychannel7965 11 месяцев назад
It only flipped over one, and from the looks of it, it left in a hurry. No frames were scattered around, so.... A bear usually leaves the frames scraped clean of brood. The pain was probably too much. Un-bearable, as it were.
@bobfanning6816
@bobfanning6816 Год назад
Been there, done that. I must compliment you for how you handled the reassembly. Handling those broken, unattached, up-side-down frames and supers is really difficult and you did it well. Good job!! Unfortunately, I have absolutely no compliments for Pistol!!
@mlfarm
@mlfarm Год назад
"Thanks Pistol you just stay on the porch". 😂🤣 That's funny but not what happened to the hives. Thanks for showing us what can happen. Enjoy your videos.
@damainkerek810
@damainkerek810 Год назад
Tough day for sure, but this video was fascinating! That’s a ton of bees!!
@edmartin875
@edmartin875 11 месяцев назад
Now.all.the.robbers.have.to.go.back.to.work...
@michaelfike7542
@michaelfike7542 Год назад
Well bear steak with a little honey sounds good. Pistol was looking for the groundhog or had a lizard on his mind or just decided it was too hot to chase anything. LoL sorry for the loss of honey and the damage. Time for a electric fence around you know he will be back. 🚫🐻❤️🐝🐕🤷
@carolsisti7203
@carolsisti7203 Год назад
Oh my that’s terrible. I’m so sorry that happened to you. I guess bears have to eat too but what a mess it made. Blessings
@charlesdrinkwater2766
@charlesdrinkwater2766 Год назад
John, Bear is pretty good right off the smoker. Might be even better with a light honey glaze.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
😎
@edmartin875
@edmartin875 11 месяцев назад
He.may.have.to.get.a.special.permit.to.kill.a.bear.out.of.season,.if.they.have.bear.hunting.season.where.he.lives...Or,.they.may.not.be.shooters.which.would.negate.that.option...
@DougMassengale
@DougMassengale Год назад
John, I feel for you. I have had the same thing in past years. You actually came out pretty good. Once i found parts of my hives half way up the mountain. You are right they just want the brood they care nothing for honey. He will be back they will not quit. He will be back in the evening just at dark . I have cured that problem several times. I live about 100 miles north of you in Osage.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
You are not wrong my friend, he came back.
@evonnewhalen9794
@evonnewhalen9794 Год назад
Sorry you to deal with the bear mess. It could have been much worse and thankfully it wasn’t. Thank you for sharing this footage. I love your dog’s name
@jaylove9616
@jaylove9616 Год назад
Hate that happen and hate that old bear I guess that old bear needs to eat too glad you can fix it
@tommywise1702
@tommywise1702 Год назад
Good job not being short tempered, bees are fun.
@tammyls178
@tammyls178 Год назад
Thank you for sharing! As a new beekeeper, any information is vital of what can happen.
@4windsfarmstead
@4windsfarmstead Год назад
Just part of bee keeping😩
@theboonecountybeekeeper
@theboonecountybeekeeper Год назад
John, hate to see this happen. This is my worst fear. We have a lot of bears in WV as well. I had one not to long ago but luckily my electric fence zapped him pretty good. Could have been worse. God bless you my friend!
@quiltcavequilter6952
@quiltcavequilter6952 Год назад
Last fall my neighbor Sue lost several hives due to 2 black bears in our neighborhood…Total mess. And we are in Central West Little Rock. Thankfully the Ark Game & Fish provided us with a 7k volt module to put up an electric fence. Of course we had to supply the fencing and wire. So now my 3 little hives are behind 7k volts… Sure hope your hives recoup and that bear stays away.
@travismuhler
@travismuhler Год назад
Feel your pain. I lost four hives to bees this week. The bees were definitely pissed off!
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Feel your pain. Thanks for sharing.
@Jaynes-Path
@Jaynes-Path Год назад
Have you thought about running a hot wire around your hives? I've seen several people who use both a hardwired and a solar powered system along with using straps and ratchet straps to hold the boxes together and shock the heck out of the bear as a deterrent. They usually don't want to try again after the pain of the hot wire, being unable to knock it over and spread the combs for a quick grab & run before the bees could drive him off. After a bunch of pain and no rewards they learn to go elsewhere for their treat. Like a well placed and full bird feeder his nose is telling him is not far away. Bird seed is like the best candy there is besides honey to a bear.
@ValleyView24
@ValleyView24 Год назад
Yikes! I’m so sorry this happened to you.
@biffking8198
@biffking8198 Год назад
Hi all Can you not put an electric fence around the bee hives to keep them pesky bears away
@SallyMangos
@SallyMangos Год назад
Isn't it funny how a bear loves honey, Buzz buzz buzz, I wonder why he does.
@olddave4833
@olddave4833 Год назад
it is the Larve (baby bees) that the bear is after, the honey is just a bonus
@bobwebber8521
@bobwebber8521 Год назад
Did you see the dog heading for the house? Bad event but could have been a lot worse. Hope for a follow up on how the hives recovered. Thanks so much to you and your lady.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
At the time I did see him. Wasn't until I watched video. Pistol likes being on camera, no matter how brief it maybe. Thanks
@Dude_its_Lyz
@Dude_its_Lyz Год назад
I was so bummed out and my face undoubtedly looked sad while watching this. That is, right up until you guys publicly shamed Pistol the Bear dog 😂. I hope that your queens are safe and your hives recover, and I hope Pistol stays safe while staying on the porch well away from the bears.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
At the end of the day pistol does his best work from the porch 👍
@gypsygem9395
@gypsygem9395 2 месяца назад
​@@CentralBeekeepersSupplyPistol was working from home! I think I saw that you've since lost him? If so I'm so sorry, he looked like a sweet little boy
@maryjaynemay3410
@maryjaynemay3410 9 месяцев назад
Hang in there folks. At some point the bears’ numbers will need to be controlled. A conversation with the pooch about bear alarms 🚨 is surely in order. Blessings to all people and bees. 🥹
@Richardofdanbury
@Richardofdanbury Год назад
By your own admittance you live in bear country as I do. So why the heck don't you set up somethings to discourage Mr. Bear, like an electric fence with some beef jerky hanging off of it or at the very least good, strong strapping. Yikes, it just common sense.
@brettellis1837
@brettellis1837 Год назад
Pit bulls would be the go ×4 bear needs a dam good touch up for that mess.
@maxpower1337
@maxpower1337 11 месяцев назад
Bear got stung pretty good imo didn't get away Scott Free good video ❤
@DragonBallSuperUV765
@DragonBallSuperUV765 Год назад
Nasty ol’ bear.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
True statement! Thanks for watching
@cindygulley2972
@cindygulley2972 Год назад
I had that happen on July 4, 2020. My son collected what was left of the bees, and hubby reconstructed the hive. The colony wasn't strong and did not survive.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Sorry to hear that, I have concerns about mine as well. Thanks for watching
@johnl302
@johnl302 Год назад
Unfortunately John, I have been there before, lost one nuc and one 10 frame deep in one morning. In South Arkansas.....not up there in bear country where you guys are. That is when I found out bears love the bees and brood more than honey., just like you said
@tommyveatch7927
@tommyveatch7927 Год назад
September seems when bear(s) rotate round to us. Usually decimate brood frames... came early this year - 4July. Contimplating electric fencing.
@robertsaylors8070
@robertsaylors8070 Год назад
Do you think an electric fence would stop the bears.we used a weedburner on our dairy farm. It was hot. Very sorry for your damage Good luck with your bees
@waynebecker7565
@waynebecker7565 Год назад
I had the same thing happen to me last year
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Hate to hear it, but as you know it can happen. Thanks for watching
@olddave4833
@olddave4833 Год назад
I have seen it many times, the bear could be hiding a couple hundred feet from the hive right now, just waiting to come back tonight
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
You are not wrong! Thanks for watching
@PC-uh6hk
@PC-uh6hk 11 месяцев назад
I put three hives in one of those chain link dog kennels to keep bears and skunks out and it worked real well. The kennel had chain link, top bottom and sides and I staked it down.
@WillyPete_
@WillyPete_ Год назад
Electric Fencing If you have have ever had the misfortune of being hit with a jolt from a livestock electric fence... you know it will well do the job, and then some.
@Richardofdanbury
@Richardofdanbury Год назад
While it may not completely deter bears it will act as a discouragement when he tries to sample the jerky. Remember the sayin', "fool me once shame on you; fool me twice shame on me". Take a lesson and be prepared next time.
@lizrd4me2
@lizrd4me2 Год назад
Thank you for filming. It was still beautiful bee footage to see you got them back together.
@leroyc179
@leroyc179 Год назад
That bear needs a hefty dose of ammonia to the face, then he would leave the region and will not be back. sorry this happened to you, thanks for sharing.
@RA-sz5tu
@RA-sz5tu Год назад
for ya man peeps don't realize how much damage they do, my worst ones are in the fall when they putting on weight, cleaned every frame of brood squashes the queens, I have a motion detector on mine and a pew-pew with rock salt they don't come back after that
@br529
@br529 Год назад
Pistol was exhausted from fighting all the bears off. That's why they only got 2 hives
@timbervalleyhomestead
@timbervalleyhomestead Год назад
Poor pistol. Too tired. Been a hard day.
@kat2641
@kat2641 Год назад
Hum???? A good 30-6 comes to my old mind! And the old saying a tooth for a tooth an fur pelt for payment to loss of my girls 😊 I love all animals but when they are un invited ?? Well my girls deserve revenge…. But dang sorry for your loss❤❤
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Thanks for the comment, I agree.
@davidlaing7684
@davidlaing7684 Год назад
Would strapping help to somewhat deter the bears along with motion load air horn help.
@olddave4833
@olddave4833 Год назад
ele. bear fence with the wires 4 inches apart from the ground up. if a cub gets its head thru the wires and get shocked, it will go right on thru, then the mother and other cubs(if any) will have a party. I bought my fencer at TS Co.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
I believe so Thanks for watching
@gerardjohnson2106
@gerardjohnson2106 Год назад
.243 bear repellent. Works every time. Good eating too.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
I'll bet your correct, both times! Thanks for watching
@maryjaynemay3410
@maryjaynemay3410 9 месяцев назад
What about spikes in the ground around the hives. One or two steps on them and maybe they’ll think twice and run off…
@jamesnash2795
@jamesnash2795 Год назад
Thanks for sharing this experience with us. As someone that has been following you for a few months, trying to learn everything I can before starting my own hive next Spring, bears have been a big concern of mine. I live in the mountains of Western NC with more than 500,000 acres of National Forest as my backyard. If you have any tips or suggestions as to how to keep bears away, please share. Thans again.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
It would seem nothing is fool, however the game an fish guys in Arkansas seem to think straight ammonia soaked rags and hung around apiary is as affective as any other means of deterrent. Obviously I wasn't using that ether 😩 #RTBBF
@dcrosco1458
@dcrosco1458 Год назад
it is a shame but bears will be bears
@mmb_MeAndMyBees
@mmb_MeAndMyBees Год назад
Question : Re Bears. . . Why not Strap Down Hives real well, or have Cages about them ? Hope the Bees survived that ordeal. We only have Children's Story Book Bears here in Beekeeping Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 So wonder why not use more Bear proof setup ? Hope you can educate us your USA and Canadian Beekeeping Tips with 🐻 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 Happy Beekeeping 2023 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
I use heavy straps on the mountain bees, never expected them in my yard with pistol on the job. Won't make that mistake again.😎 thanks for watching! #RTBBF Hello to Scotland
@chuckgross6024
@chuckgross6024 Год назад
What a bummer for you guys, so glad it wasn't worse. Did you see him back after the video was done?
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Yes he returned two more times!
@gypsygem9395
@gypsygem9395 2 месяца назад
​@@CentralBeekeepersSupply😮
@Biggskye
@Biggskye Год назад
Can't imagine having bee hives without protecting them with electric netting.
@edmartin875
@edmartin875 11 месяцев назад
Depends.on.where.you.are...My.bee.experience.is.West.Texas.where.there.are.no.bears...We.put.up.hog.wire.to.keep.the.cattle.away.just.in.case.someone.got.out.of.their.own.pasture...That.kept.the.grandkids.out.too...
@Biggskye
@Biggskye 11 месяцев назад
@@edmartin875 Yeah. I live in bear country just like these people, so that is why I made my comment.
@brycapepatrs
@brycapepatrs 11 месяцев назад
That same thing happened to me last October in central PA. Two days before I was to harvest and it was 29 degrees that morning. Ended up killing my strongest hive and made it so the the 2nd strongest couldn't make it through winter. The bear got about 30lbs of honey from my girls! I've never experienced bees more defensive than that morning!
@gordonspond
@gordonspond Год назад
16:15 Sounds like me...
@terryspence9326
@terryspence9326 Год назад
Man so sorry but you did a great job saving everything else and Not one cuss word and not one sting on you belt line….. lol great video!!! So far all of us new bee keepers are lucky….. but you have show. Us what could happen!!!
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
😎 #RTBBF
@arkansasbeekeeper
@arkansasbeekeeper 10 месяцев назад
Great camera lady. Pull your jacket down. I saw that just before she said it. She is a true professional.
@reneallen6405
@reneallen6405 Год назад
Ratchet straps on my hives in the hopes that if something attacks my hives, they can't do a lot of damage.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
A very good idea. Thanks for watching
@jimthomas1989
@jimthomas1989 Год назад
Invite me over , I have a Snake bite kit !
@CallahanHomestead-n-Bees
@CallahanHomestead-n-Bees Год назад
Sorry Get an e fence asap He will be back again and again til he is detoured away. I deal with bears daily.
@dixsigns1717
@dixsigns1717 Год назад
Do you have an electric fence around your hives? Just curious, here. So sorry for your loss. I love how calmly you handled this terrible situation: it impressed me so much that I subscribed.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Thank you for the sub! #RTBBF
@edmartin875
@edmartin875 11 месяцев назад
I.believe.he.has.groups.of.hives.scattered.around.their.farm...I.have.seen.no.evidence.of.electric.wire.around.his.bees.in.the.many.of.his.videos.I.have.seen...
@dannyhague1425
@dannyhague1425 5 месяцев назад
I’m just seeing this today I’m even pissed.. Enjoy your video’s.. just finished making long hive and following your advice on your long hive experiences….
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply 3 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Good luck on long hive.
@DavidAzizinamini
@DavidAzizinamini 11 месяцев назад
Can you rig a bell system or something on top of those hives to alert you? That or an armed guard 😎
@gypsygem9395
@gypsygem9395 2 месяца назад
This makes me glad to be in the UK! Mind you I've got badgers on my top field, not sure if they would come this far down where all the human activity is. Would the robbers then give you that honey back via their own hives? And did the hive survive?
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately the hive collapsed. And yes the other hives just added it to their stores. Thanks for watching
@angelalott9370
@angelalott9370 Год назад
When will yall look at it again
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
When we finish honey harvest and return from vacation. Thanks for watching
@RegrenativeBeekeeping
@RegrenativeBeekeeping Год назад
Wind got several of my hives today:(
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
I'm sorry to hear that, hope the bees are good. Thanks for watching
@shanedavis5787
@shanedavis5787 Год назад
Dang. Sorry guys! Thats horrible.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Thanks Shane- #RTBBF
@godfreyvonnordeck2056
@godfreyvonnordeck2056 Год назад
How many times did you actually get stung during your cleanup process? I was watching and I didn’t see very many bees actually landing on your suit
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Just one sting through the jeans to the knee. Thanks for asking
@godfreyvonnordeck2056
@godfreyvonnordeck2056 Год назад
@@CentralBeekeepersSupply I am a new beekeeper and I didn’t get my bees 🐝 until like 1st week of may so I’ve basically been feeding them all summer so they could build up their hive. The lower brood box is now full and they’ve started building up the second level brood box. They were getting very aggressive when I was changing their feeders out on the frt of the hive and they were stinging my suit and one slipped inside and stung me on my cheek. I couldn’t understand why they were getting so aggressive just changing their feeders so I checked the RU-vid channels and saw several reasons. 1) possible was I might have been nervous about being stung and transmitting it to the bees making them in alert. 2) I was moving too fast and needed to slow down and act like a tree. Tree’s don’t get stung and last 3) I was making the rookie mistake of inspecting the hive too often and keeping the bees on high alert and edgy. So I slowed down a lot take slow deep breaths to calm myself down, smoked my suit really well and put a schedule in place to inspect the hive once every two weeks. Hopefully they will get calm enough where I can handle them eventually without a full suit.
@Smith_jeff
@Smith_jeff 10 месяцев назад
Man that’s terrible 😢
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply 10 месяцев назад
Agreed. 😞
@kathyhathaway8823
@kathyhathaway8823 2 месяца назад
I have watched this video before an I just got done watching it again an it pissed me off as much the second time as it did the first time. I do not know how true it was but I heard years ago that bears like the larvae better than the honey. I guess that would be for the protein they would get out of it but not sure about that. Here in central NC we really don’t have bears here but there have been some spotted ever now an then . I am planning on putting hot fences up around all three of my yards just because damage to one colony in each yard would pay for the hot fence plus having to clean up all the debris. Is a pain . Thanks
@barbaravickroy7563
@barbaravickroy7563 Год назад
Maybe Pistol needs a Chihuahua dog to scare the bear away, or at least wake you up with all the barking....just kidding....lt's times like these, where not being allowed to cuss as a child comes in handy...nice ''clean'' video...😬🙄 💬
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
It makes my mama proud, she watches too. #RTBBF
@4windsfarmstead
@4windsfarmstead Месяц назад
What a shame.
@jillmondt5398
@jillmondt5398 Год назад
Ooh those bears are in for a world of hurt once Arkansas bees are Africanized.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
🤣
@ericwinslow1913
@ericwinslow1913 Год назад
Please put up electric fence. It’s really not much work. It won’t train the Bears to come bother you.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Thanks for the well put comment. #RTBBF
@angelawoodring962
@angelawoodring962 9 месяцев назад
Sorry 😢
@robertlewis3336
@robertlewis3336 Год назад
🙁
@Burntbranchcreekbees
@Burntbranchcreekbees Год назад
B*st*rdly bear footage. Sorry for your troubles and loss my friend.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
🤣 thanks for watching
@rebeccaocker4506
@rebeccaocker4506 Год назад
All he had to do was to ask an h would have given hem some honey crazy bear no one ever ask they just take an make a mess my son has bees his name is. Warren he has a you tube
@maryjaynemay3410
@maryjaynemay3410 9 месяцев назад
What’s the legal story on bears and such? At some point there has to be a trade off. Bears kill dogs and people too. Not a safe prospect if one can’t defend against such dangerous foes.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply 5 месяцев назад
bears are a beekeepers issue for sure. but he and I worked it out legally according to our game an fish laws. thanks for watching
@waynebecker7565
@waynebecker7565 Год назад
It is disheartening
@iditarod4081
@iditarod4081 Год назад
Getch your gun.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply Год назад
Gotcha!
@joylefevre7288
@joylefevre7288 11 месяцев назад
Why spend so much time explaining, fix it first and then explain. Its not just you, it seems all you tubers do this. Yours isn't so bad but when you watch an injured horse suffering while they stand there explaining what they have to do......so frustrating.
@CentralBeekeepersSupply
@CentralBeekeepersSupply 11 месяцев назад
We're excited to watch your channel when it comes out. 😃
@ricksutton2902
@ricksutton2902 11 месяцев назад
It is not the Bears fault it's natural to him that's the risk you taking his business