Against The Christians | Ancient Greece Revisited 

I binge watched all your videos in one day! Thirsty for more!moving back to Greece I started searching about new promising Greek people and projects. makes me a little more hopeful for my future here. Let's revisit Greece once again..

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Just discovered you from Unregistered. Great content! As a Christian mystic myself (numerous supernatural experiences and transformations of my brain and mind) I must say that the message presented here - and the defense given to Christianity and the 'veritas' of the faith - is superb, and I thank you. Pax et bonum.

There’s a great book called ‘Christians as the Romans Saw Them’ that discusses him and others in detail. Highly recommend it.

Great one, your videos always leave me wondering more questions than answers. Great work, I didn't know about that Porfyrios dude. It's weird if you think about how many things might be so different that we think they were from our modern understanding and consensus.

Every video you create is outstanding! Thank you!

Great video. My congratulations to the team behind it ,continue the great work

Man I love this channel. Great work guys!

Great content! As always!

this deserves way more views. Very nice.

Excellent and informative video, many thanks! I did not expect that you would not put Porphyry on a pedestal, pointing out the degradation that was creeping into philosophical thinking at this time. A slap in the face of my stupidity, thanks again! Subscribed.

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Grear video and great channel

Great as always so we expect nothing less. Is there any way that we can contribute to your channel?

Συγχαρητήρια. Και ευχαριστώ των Graham που με έφερε εδώ. Η Ισορροπία είναι ίσως κάτι που δεν μπορεί να επιτευχθεί, όμως αξίζει να την κυνηγάμε. Με αυτή την παρουσίαση, έχω την αίσθηση πως φτάσατε κοντά στο να την αγγίξετε. Και πάλι συγχαρητήρια και ευχαριστούμε!

bravo! what are some of the written sources of your videos? i hope these ideas and understandings of yours can spread.

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Interesting video and subbed to your channel! What are your thoughts on the YSEE and Vlassis G. Rassias(RIP)?

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Do you know about Gemistus Pletho? He was a highly influential and esteemed pagan Greek scholar who died in the 15th Century and kept his pagan beliefs secret, revealing them to his entrusted successor upon inheriting his secret manuscripts. Unfortunately Bessarion his Christian protégé, burnt the only copy of his pagan works, but fragmentary summaries from his correspondence survive.

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Κάνεις πολύ καλή δουλειά φίλε συνέχισε έτσι💪

You bring us light!!! May the Gods protect you....

A Roman-era Pagan philosopher by the name of... Porphyros? Named after the sacred purple stone of Byzantine Bhaseloi? Interesting thought.

Perhaps the hope for Western Civilization lies in rediscovering its true roots in ancient Athens. ❤

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Εξαιρετικό βίντεο με παρουσίαση υψηλής ποιότητας. Πάτησα ταχύτατα το κουμπί της εγγραφής με το που το είδα. Το γεγονός ότι το κανάλι αυτό είναι δημιουργημένο από Έλληνες, με χαροποιεί ιδιαίτερα. Θα ήθελα να μοιραστώ μαζί σας μερικές σκέψεις που μου γέννησε το περιεχόμενο του βίντεο. Για χάρη της προαγωγής του ανοιχτού δημόσιου διαλόγου, θα εκφράσω τις σκέψεις μου στα αγγλικά. I have just started to venture into the world of platonism, therefore, I wanted to ask you whether there is a place for hyper-rational experiences into the thinking framework of classical platonism. I already know for a fact, that neoplatonists, such as Iamblichus, was initiated into rites designed to induce the mind into extra-ordinary states of cosnciousness. If one adheres to classical platonism, does this mean that all esoteric experiences, are considered a priori, as irrelevant to the conquest of attaining truth? Aren't many instances in human history where leaps in development were achieved through hyperlogical means, such as through dreaming, psychedelic experiences, mindfulness meditation and active imagination? That being said, I can understand of course that the use of non-logical means in attaining the truth does not always lead to the awareness of hyper-rational realities, but it may also lead into falsities and the disintegration of the individual and civilisation. Also, although I don't want to take the role of a christian apologist, I think that it is noteworthy to mention, that the concept of faith (Πίστης) in proto-christian circles, did not have the meaning of "blind trust", as it is often presented in many christian denominations of the modern age. It had rather the meaning of "rational trust" into the personhood of Christ, who (according to christians) has proven to be worthy of trust. Consequently the Πίστης of the proto-christians, is more akin to the faith that one has that when the flashlight on the street is red, the drivers will stop in order for the pedestrians to cross the street with safety. I am excited to have found your chanel. I wish you the best of luck in it's development.

Thanks for this video! From Porphyry's statement that he found the Christians' Jesus as not one character but many stitched together reminds me of one school of modern day mythicism that Jesus wasn't historically one man, but a composite of several figures.

Great video guys, the amount of effort your team put on those videos is superb. I'm a Christian myself and understood your points through the video. Given that, I would say that, to Christians, the "death of God" is actually part of their story, given that by Christian belief death precedes resurrection. So, by that point of view, specially in Medieval Christianity, what happened to the cultures of Rome, ancient Greece and other of the Pagan world was a "death" that made it possible for their culture to be "reborn" into that new worldview. (Curiosity: That's why in some medieval churches Socrates, Plato, Aristotle and Virgil were represented on the entrance, the "narthex")

You’re correct in alluding to a kind of philosophical dogmatism forming in the Platonic tradition, but at the same time, there’s a chasm of epistemic difference between relying on ‘revealed truth’ versus ‘discursive reasoning’. If Christianity (or even Islam or later Judaism) were able to stand up to scrutiny purely on the basis of the Hebraic, legalistic approach to the transcendent, then it wouldn’t have had to rely on Hellenic thought to justify its metaphysics by the time orthodoxy was established. Furthermore, Monistic Idealism can easily be logically deduced without need for scripture, so one could argue this boils down to a distinction between ‘cleaving to faith’ versus ‘rational faculties’ (the logical endpoint of the latter being Monistic Idealism at the very least).

I remember reading Porphyry, him pointing out contradictions in the texts and that the Bible texts didn't have eyewitnesses to the story of Jesus, etc. It's quite fascinating, to see Bart Ehrman argue similar points in modern-day Biblical scholarship. Ave Porphyry!

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I enjoyed this video, but I'm not convinced that the mysticism found in Plotinus and Porphyry is absent from Plato and Socrates. For example, the dialogue Phaedo is devoted to explaining and illuminating the reality of rebirth and at the end takes flight into mythic dimensions. And in the Symposium, early in the dialogue, Socrates is found in a kind of trance, standing on the porch of someone's house, lost in contemplation. These kinds of episodes and experiences are frequent in Plato's writings; so I feel that when Plotinus and Porphyry also refer to such experiences they are in step with their predecessors rather than deviating from them. // Thanks for your insights.

Ένας Θεός, μια αλήθεια, ένα καθεστώς. Η δημοκρατία εν αναμονή για αιώνες!

That the late Platonists were part of the decline is a view that disregards the primary work of late Platonism, which was synthesising. Faith must have a place in a well-ordered metaphysical system; they simply couldn't leave the faith question unanswered. This does not mean that faith had a role in Platonism comparable to its central role within Christianity.

Thank you for sharing, Michael. In what way does human reason not coincide, for Socrates, with the problem of "the salvation of the soul"? Your reference to sculptures' eyes could be turned in favor of monotheism: the proclamation/revelation of the unity of the divine (intimated by Plato) may be understood as an unprecedented call to return, against the grain of all vulgar "sophism," to the "interiority" (hiddenness) of the problem of truth (no question of "imposition," all abuses notwithstanding, but of apologia of the rootedness of the human in the divine). Now, you speak of John18.38 as "mostly forgotten," and Socratic "dialectic" as "infamous". Is the biblical passage not crucial to most Christians? As for the phrasing τί ἐστιν ἀλήθεια, we have a question here, not an imposition, inviting the suggestion that Christianity is (essentially) a defense of the hiddenness of the question at the core of man's life. "What is truth?": in terms of what does the divine show itself? Or even: what is the truth about God? And, of course, the "what," the τί is the anthropos, the zoon politikon. Is this not in full agreement with Socrates and Plato? On the other hand, is Socrates's dialectic not generally admired, even by critics of Plato? vale- Marco

How cool would it be if we still erected ancient style temples? Not necessarily believing 100%, just keeping the tradition and art alive.

Well, Michalis..you made me go deep in myself again. :-) And a question appears to me quite strongly: == Is 'the truth' ever experienced..through a motive? == Is the highest form we grave to be conscious of, constructed by a motive? A motive of culture, a motive of groups or clubs, a motive of study or just one out of political sides? And, does not the motive of me being a winner, set aside all love for others I meet? for the Romans to take over the Greeks they had a motive, but could that bring us something good? Motives stride inside ourselves, like at the Olympics presenting a winner, as to which we then follow suit.., becoming the looser. was not the Eleusian Mystery mend for thát? I mean, Loosing those silly personal motives, build up by our slavery lives?? Does beauty appear to us..by motives? Beauty being part of 'the truth' itself..experienced as Agape? Thanks for this wonderful video to us! keep safe, all of you :-)

The Nous is not to be understood as the wish of the monotheistic God, also the Platonic god is a god of the many, not the only god as Christians will later assert. A person in statis with their Nous is perfectly capable of free will and making their own choices. The Nous is more like Socrates' personal daimon that guided him and steered him away from danger but let him make his own decisions.

it always seemed obvious to me that pilato wasn't really asking what truth was, but that he was performing a faucaultian move, saying something like "truth is subjective", and the answer of Jesus seemed pretty obvious too, because he had done similar things before, he was rejecting pilatos rebellion, only for those who'd come humbly would he give them anything.

Good video. But homie. That quote is well known. It’s quoted often and throughout history

Jesus remain in silence, because the answer was in the question (anagram): Quid est veritas? Est vir qui adest. (Jo 14:6)

Κατα Ναζωραιον λογος of the great emperor Julianus is a realy an important script against Christanity, unfotantly Julianus was killed in a moment of a grait victory against the Sassanids.

I see several loopholes but the biggest catch was this one: "Why didn't Jesus teach his oppressors?" - Oh I don't know, maybe because if he had then they would have stopped and wouldn't have crucified him? His mission was to get crucified not to be Scorates 2.0 ... Nice lighting effects but still all I see is excessive drama and the cheering of a man who was Biblically illiterate.

Perception is reality... that is the TRUTH

Are you afraid to actually read his words to us?? Curious!

Rich people are supposed to give a lot in charity.

John 17:20-26 has Jesus tell us the point of his message: to come to the one such that there is complete unity... This is the henosis of philosophy, do not pretend the Christian tradition relied on Jesus alone... Indeed, Ephesians 2:11-22 says his death is about bringing Jewish and Greek traditions together... By making Christianity entirely separate oneness itself has been rejected... The result is necessarily not of the Good, and history shows this.

The pagan word is thrown around, but is not accurate in most cases. Religion is pagan. Jesus did not scoff at Greek spirituality. Jesus is like the number 0 that connected Greek geometry. The concept of 0 was imported, but once realized shows proof of their intelligence. Apolion appeared to me in my defense. Does that make me pagan? I never praised him a day in my life. I knew he was falsely misinterpreted as being evil, but I stayed praising Yahweh, Jah Rastafari, Holy Immanuel, or simply the truth. I give thanks to all the angels and our beautiful Creator. Who gave I sense to maneuver through the maze of misinformation.

I think that storyes about greeks gods came from North...

For all your knowledge, you have got many things backwards Michael. Look closer.

Pagans to describe the Hellenes. The pagans were originally the Christian’s named as such by the Romans. Look up the true meaning of the word you will understand.

Lol, his works were refuted by Christian philosopher's of his time 🤭 like St.Augustine.

Hail Porphery. He for seen the coming atrocities of Christianity.

How I wish I could live to see the day when Christianity fades from the rear view mirror of human history. That will be true salvation

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (vedic yogi): How the small brain experiences Infinity ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1IMGjsx4ODs.html

Hail Porphery. He for seen the coming atrocities of Christianity.