Yes. liberals are so horrible. They want equality, to help the poor and disenfranchised, to protect the environment and individual rights. Us liberals are the scum of the earth, huh? smh
+JB&SK And don't forget the sacrificing of common sense and Western values in order to not offend the invading Muslim "refugees" that are trying to Islamify Europe. Take Sweden as a shining example of willful progressive suicide in the name of political correctness. smh.
glen ross I'm not a regressive liberal. I think islam is the epitome of what is the worst in human nature. Fuck pisslam!! I, in no way, support the idea of being tolerant to the intolerable. If the situations were reversed, we'd be living in a theocratic, hellish "1984" dystopian nightmare.
-Knock knock --"Who is it?" -"It's me, Jesus. Let me in." --"Why do you want in?" -"I want to save you." --"Save me from what?" -"From what I'll do to you if you don't let me in."
If I don´t count having sex, this was the most enjoyable 6m 50s I ever had. This man spoke like he entered my mind and in verbal perfection explained what I believe and stand for.
A truly eloquent apologist for atheism. We need more like you, especially now that Christopher Hitchens has passed away and Richard Dawkins was taken ill. The world is overwhelmed with relentless religious proselytizing and propaganda, - not to mention religious fundamentalism. A constant campaign of atheism is needed to counter this religious onslaught.
It's a lot easier to be told what to think than to think for yourself. There is a reason why theists outnumber atheists in such large numbers. Sadly, I don't think this battle can be won when so many choose to be willfully ignorant; at least not in the near future.
I agree with this video. I have been an Atheist my whole life. These "New " Atheists like to tell us to be nice. Sorry, the time for nice is over. I will be as rude and offensive as they are.
That's why i love you, always saying it with courage. As an Iranian i can confirm everything you say about religion/Especially Islam. i have experienced it totally for at least 40 years. I hope Europe doesn't go down in this fight because it is our most free thinking continent, no civilization deserves to get conquered by Islam.
Guess he could sell you a 'clunker' of a second hand car in that case. Watch the movies of the Nurenburg Rallies, you'd fit right in with those people whose right arms were 5 cms longer than the left ones.
The enemies of our enemies are not always our friends, but intolerance of intolerance is our friend, because it is the defense of equality, acceptance and good neighbourship.
ixlnxs Tolerance is a paradox, a stopgap, a sticking plaster. Nothing more. We use it as a scaffolding in conflict resolution, while we build a real basis of actual mutual understanding. If tolerance can't at some point give way to true understanding then it's a waste of time and energy. Worse than that, when it inevitably gives way it will in all probability have made things worse, not better.
saltypork101 Good point. But perhaps we define tolerance a little different. I do not advocate permissiveness, indifference nor looking the other way. I advocate acceptance, understanding and cooperation, as well as allowing eachother a place in the sun.
ixlnxs Forst defines tolerance as the limited acceptance of that to which you object. No objection, no tolerance. That's just agreeing with something. If you tolerate something, you're putting up with it.
"Like a streetthug that calls the police once his victims fight back" That's got to be one of the best metaphors I've ever heard on the subject. Word up and respect to you Pat, the nail is struck on it's head here!
well said, Pat. Blasphemy laws are an affront to free speech, and without free speech, we're screwed. I sure hope we, the people, get this one right for future's sake.
FAITH - "Feeble Answers for Idiots, Tyrants and Hypocrites" - Bruno McCartney This is one of Pat Condell's best talks. Pleasantly surprised to hear him speak negatively of Jerusalem. I thought he was a ZioNazi supporter.
All religions try to control through fear, be good surfs and you go to a wonderful place called heaven when you die. Be a bad surf you go to a horrible place called hell, after you die very painfully.
how the hell did you come to be this humane? you're alright, mr. condell. thanks for provocative, thoughtful, sensitive, and caring -for-humanity videos.
Einstein also said: "I do not believe in a personal God (...) If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." No, he was not religious in any meaningful sense.
I disagree. You claim aggressive Atheism is just Atheism. This is not true. I have heard many Atheists simply calling religious people idiots without provocation, just looking for a quarrel over religion. I am not a Christian, however you must be blind if you can't see the spread of intolerant Atheism. Indeed a lot of religious people, and most organised religions are intolerant, and so that intolerance should be addressed. However I will never agree to your idea of dishing out justice to those who have faith. Atheism is becoming an aggressive movement filled not with skeptics but simply those looking for a cause. Its a shame you will never admit it, lest your fanbase starts to plummet. I am an Atheist, but like with Feminism, I am now starting to feel hesitant to affiliate myself with the group, because it is starting to come across as simply a hate group. Of course not all Atheists are like this. I was expecting this video to reflect you as a level minded person capable of criticising your own group when it needed it. I think however you simply be one of many people scared to swim against the flow.
LucisFerre1 Now you have only mentioned Islam. Islam is a terrible religion, but still doesn't answer my point. Christianity is not nearly as bad, and often people believe it personally in their homes and dont try to thrust it down peoples throats, yet receive so much heat for it
God Sloth "Militant" atheists fight back against right wing conservative religionists who insist on violating the constitutional laws and rules set down by their founding fathers that they worship like some sort of fetish idol. That is, they try to shove religion into pubic schools and instutitions, to put the ten commandments in courts of law, etc. We tend to have little patience for gross hypocracy.
LucisFerre1 However lots of religious people do not do this, yet get attacked all the time, called stupid and what not. I'm all for fighting radicals and people trying to force their beliefs, however there comes a point where going around calling some stupid is just as bad.
LucisFerre1 It isn't anectdotal, this is a common theme all over the Atheist community. Maybe you are a fine Atheist who only targets religion when it is causing damage or is being forced. However this video does not mention the many people who just want to call people stupid. It implies aggressive Atheism doesn't exist when it comes to quiet god fearing men and women, which simply is not true.
My throughts actually on Religion I was brought up Catholic the quickest way to become a Atheist. Had the shit beaten out of me when I was a kid by Nuns with sticks and cans. Yet it is all about Love.
I'm starting to get annoyed with the whole, "but people can believe whatever they want" to slam Athiesm for calling BS on some magical supernatural stuff improvised by a bishop who wanted to understand the world without having to put any thought into it. However Athiesm is pretty much saying that all these religions are unlikely and silly to devote to since there's not valid evidence for their existence, but there stlil is that .0000001% that a religion is valid. When you're devoted to one religion, you're pretty much blocking every other religion and only calling yours valid, so technically religions are less tolerant of each other than Athiesm is with other beliefs. I also think anyone who say, "People can believe whatever they want" is pretty much lying because I doubt anyone who says that would accept Neo-Nazi or white supremacist beliefs.
***** What are Athiest doing that is that bad? We aren't at least persecuting people or even executing heretics, and btw, I don't hate religious people, I don't like religion. A person can despise the ideas of conservatives, but it doesn't mean they can't like the people. Since a vast majority of the world is religious, I don't get to be untolerant. You on the other hand can smack Athiests for not believe something that you want to be real, and you'd probably look virteous doing so. You're not being very tolerant either. Acording to you, "But, belief in God, whether it's from the perspective of a Jew, a Muslim, or whoever, is much better than nothing." This is implying that every religious person, even if it's one who will suicide bomb innocent people to get some virgins in heaven, is at least better than anyone who rejects the believes of religion is it not? If so, how is that in any way tolerant according to your standards? Athiesm is a difference of opinion. No "New Athiest" has ever been reported of killing anyone while many religious people have killed Athiests throughout history and even today. Athiests are murdered, fired at jobs, aren't allowed to participate in certain things such as running for office and taking part in the Boy Scouts because of your little religion isn't tolerant. If you want to complain about intolerance, you should turn around and notice most of it is religion, and that's the reason for "New Athiests" is around in the first place. People are tired of the oppression that religion has either caused and endorsed, but NO, the rejection of god is just so terrible!!!! No, it's the people who have an honest opinion about god existing or not that are the evil ones to you. Don't bother calling people intolerant when you are judging others merely for rejecting god. I don't mind Deists or anyone else who believes in god as long as they don't try to force their religion on other people. I don't care that you believe in a god. What ticks me off is that you think you're the tolerant one, yet you turn around and criticise someone for rejecting your friend that no one has ever seen.
***** I just see hate that is sugar-coated, so you judge me because I think the first commandment is a joke? Hahahaa. You can say you do it out of love, but looking at your comment, you have as much anger as any "militant atheist". I'm not judging you. I'm judging the religion. It has nothing to do with you other than the fact that you believe it. Is there a little loss in respect for you. There could be, but I understand a lot of people have religion, so I do have to show respect to the people who do. That's why I can't be openly Athiest in public. By the way, many Athiests, not including me, are probably hostile back due to bad experiences with religion. Religion is just as hostile back, but it still gets a pat on the back since an overwhelming majority of the people in the US are religious, so slamming religion would be considered unvirteous and possibly unpatriotic since we're stabbing the constitution, and creating our own Christian nation. I never was religious, so there was never any virtue to being religious. I just remember being annoyed by creationists and those dumb preachers screaming on the road about the Armageddon or something else as dumb as that. Dawkins and Harris are trying to get people to be informed about the twisted aspects of the Abrahamic religions in particular, and hopefully get people to become Athiest in the process. I have never seen Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, or really any anti-theist say that he wants to get rid of religious people's rights or execute anyone with faith, so I don't see how they are fueling hate towards the people. They are getting people to realize we don't need religion, and it would be better if it was gone.
Pat, l've seen several videos of yours. One question for you: Do you take any medication before making these videos? If not, you should take some... Seriously, dude. I will pray for you and your kind.
Yeah his kind won't be doing anything for you either, the equivolent of your prayer. If you've seen several of his videos, maybe you should watch several more and repeat until you finally realize that he is absolutely right.
Militant evangelists have no problem walking all over other people's beliefs. I have seen the disrespect and intolerance doled out by Christians on a daily basis and I find it disgusting. I once volunteered at a soup kitchen to feed the homeless and downtrodden. Unfortunately, it was a Christian establishment. Back then I was still naive about religion and the harm that it does. Did they show respect to these poor people and simply fill their needs? Absolutely not! Instead they held their needs hostage and used it as a tool to make them sit through a 3 hour lecture about how if only they "turned to god" and were "Christians" they wouldn't be in need before they gave them any help. You had to first give up your dignity and have your own beliefs trampled upon in order to receive any help from these people. Their goal wasn't to help these people but to shame them and crush their spirit so they could feel superior through converting a few "lost souls". The sheer arrogance, lack of respect, and ulterior motives of these "Christians" certainly did nullify any actual good they may have done anyone. Taking advantage of someone's vulnerability and using their needs for leverage is just plain vulgar and immoral. I will never forget it.
You're a victim of religion? How? In what tangible, relevant way are you able to call yourself a "victim" of religion? Don't you have any shame for misusing the word you'd apply to someone who suffers personal harm, rape, loss of family lives or their own lives? Do you have a legitimate reason for considering yourself a victim of religion? How have you been affected? And furthermore, how is religion "dishing it out"? How is "religion" (there's more than one, that's a sweeping generalisation) dishing it out to you or anyone else? I've never had "religion" dish it out in an aggressive way. Ever. I'm not religious, I don't have a religion but I did go to a catholic school, from basically a protestant family, and it was never, ever religion that was aggressive. Speak as you find, my own experience is that priests, I'm guessing the representatives of this "religion" that you're mentioning, were always really nice, helpful people. I've met Buddhist monks who blew me away with their calm, peaceful manner, they were simply amazing people. I've also come across Muslims who were incredibly kind, helpful people. Religious people are PEOPLE. They deserve respect. You say religion deserves no respect. How does that impact on your dealings with those who are religious? Do you see the issue here? People deserve respect, and it's people who are religious, so you have to give religion at least courtesy or acceptance, if not respect, otherwise you turn into the sort of sanctimonious angry, nasty, toxic person that society invariably has to shun. This is the problem with atheism. Religion is a community based activity, something that reaches out and offers its members a sense of belonging and camaraderie. Atheism seems always to be based on the premise: You're not clever enough, your beliefs are the beliefs of an idiot. If you don't believe what I do, then you're an idiot and I'm going to attack and insult you for it. It's a horrendous manipulation. You don't know that you've got it right. You don't *know*, regardless of what you say. Saying there's absolutely definitely no deity is just arrogant. I much prefer agnosticism because it's at least humble. And as for fighting intolerance with intolerance, that's just ridiculous, you can't really believe that will create a positive, good future for anyone. Conflict is the issue so I'm going to beat it by....creating more conflict? Being intolerant of religious people, when you're an atheist, is just being an attention seeker. What tangible thing are you being denied through the existence of religion? You can be an atheist without telling a soul, without ever making a fuss or a big deal out of it, WITHOUT looking for confrontation, it's an entirely personal thing that doesn't demand exposure. There's absolutely no reason for this conflict. That's why aggressive atheists are a bad thing. They're just creating pointless drama. As far as I can see, as a person without religion, there's nothing being denied to me.
Zaigard "It shouldn't be allowed" wouldn't be my wording at all, sorry, no. All I'm saying is let's have respect for each other. Making fun of anyone, be it a person of different skin colour, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, religion, they're all the same things, stereotyping, and they come from a really rotten part of humanity. It's something everyone has in them, and it's better to strive not to be that way. Do you know what I mean?
Rodgerinho Then carton about Islam? Or insinuations about pedophiles priests? Should we have freedom to do that? Off course i am not for bashing other people faith but you know the dangers of excessive respect... I am atheist, i never really cared about god and about other people opinion about god, but with this Charlie hebdo some people start saying that we should stop "insulting" religions...
Zaigard I think it can be a problem for a group of people in a country to have those issues, and in some ways a group who find offence in a picture will struggle to live in a European or American country, they're almost unfit for freedom of speech if they disregard it that way. You obey the rules of the house, is one way of putting it. Realistically, the way we do things in democratic society is to campaign, raise awareness, and appeal. Not force. I have no time for people using bullying tactics. However not every Muslim is doing so. And those individuals are genuinely pained by the cartoons. I have Muslim friends and it really affects them. I have compassion so my priority ends up with them, not the tiny angry nasty minority. But it's a difficult situation. The mature, reasonable thing would be to explain that this is how we do things, and you can't force. It's passive-aggressive, childish and confrontational to draw those images, it's not fixing things, it's just petulant and rash. As for pedophile priests, I don't ever know what to say to people. Pedophile human beings? Is there a difference between different pedophiles? Aren't they all as bad as each other? What exactly am I to infer from their job description? I can assure you there aren't any more pedophiles in the priesthood as a percentage versus the average of pedophiles in society. We've done a great job of creating a certain image. I don't think you can have excessive respect. Provided no ohysical harm comes from your respect, then it's appropriate respect.
Rodgerinho Do you not have any idea of the world around you? To say people aren't oppressed by religion is laughable. Even here in Britain, my own family who I live with right now have no idea I'm an atheist. I dare not tell them, as they have some of the most disgusting views, like gay people should be treated like lesser people, or that women belong staying at home pleasing and obeying the husband's every order. I know I'd face my own destruction if I ever confronted these views and said I actually don't agree with your bullshit religion as it preaches nothing but intolerance and hatred. And yet you claim not to be religious yourself. I have severe mental health issues because of the torment and fear I suffer every day due to backwards religious dogma. Go fuck yourself.
Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap...that was fuckin' excellent, Pat. Well written and well said. I'm there with you on all of that. Religion has been holding back science and dumbing us down for a very long time. I hope Zeitgeist was right and that the world's religions will continue to wane and pretty much disappear within the next 150 years. Just like Zeus and the boys did, Yahweh will fade into being the violent fairy tale he always was.
I don't get his argument. Ok you have issues with religion big deal. Does that justify your religious belief somehow is deferent or special? Shit think about it. Your using an assumption to prove an assertion. The assumption being that atheism is not a religion. That is the stupidest argument I heard yet. Unless you want to tell me you don't believe it!
Nonsense, so you're telling me that everyone in the world has to be part of a religion? If you were to label me in society i would be an 'atheist' but i don't go out to rallies, a place where i meet up with other atheists on a set schedule, rely on belief to live this way or live strictly by certain rules. I form my own opinions on knowledge that i find/look for or that is presented to me and rely on evidence to back it up.
ganjaericco religious people cannot imagine how someone COULD NOT be religious....so they project their pathology on those of us who cannot imagine how anyone could BEreligious.
REDCAP32X Oh, I thought 'Self-righteous fanatic' was part of your username! Maybe you should listen and learn from Pat Condell, he speaks more truth in one sentence than all religious leaders do in a year. 1. Self-righteous - no, but the truth is hidden in your silly response "Self-RIGHTeous' - the capitals tell it as it is 2. Fanatic - As Pat says, religion can give it out OK but they just can't take it - not 'Fanatic' but someone who has rightly had enough of the bullshit spouted by god-botherers like most intelligent people.
Dave Surge0n There's nothing to learn from Pat, He only gives an opinion, He doesn't back up anything hes says with actual facts/evidence, And more to the point If i am going to learn from someone I won't seek out a smartarse comedian. Ah I see it's most "intelligent people" who don't believe in God or are they just easily flattered people,. I'll leave that for you to decide, oh intelligent one.
REDCAP32X He's using parody to make a point. Self-assured he may be, but he's also a very clever man, albeit wrong about many things. I have no doubt that debating against him in person would be a scintillating, not to mention enlightening.
By comparison, there are 3,900 different LEGO® elements and 58 different colours which are combined into some 7,500 unique pieces-and LEGO has around 120 designers working full time every day to create these pieces and figure out how to use them to build things.
and bosons (named after Satyandra Nath Bose), or, more specifically, gauge bosons. The difference between fermions and bosons is that fermions are like automobiles-only one can occupy a given quantum state at a given time-whereas bosons do not have this constraint.2 In the Standard Model, there are two types of fermions: quarks and leptons. Quarks are heavy (relatively speaking) and there are 6 of them called ‘up’, ‘down, ‘charm’, ‘strange’, ‘top’, and ‘bottom’.
(Part 7) members of the group. ( "If you don't take communion, you'll go to Hell !" --- "If you don't take Lipitor, you'll die !" --- "If the taxpayers don't give the billionaires their billion dollars they, the taxpayers, will go bankrupt !" ) When insincerity and fear is removed from "religion", you have the possibility of genuine spirituality. A spiritual person is simply anyone who is compassionate to living beings, exudes positve energy (not emotional vampire) and realizes that there are realities not accessible to the scientific method.
No, you never explained WHY, you explained WHAT - not the same thing. And your worldview gives no intrinsic worth - no more than a dog's life has "intrinsic worth" because he has a master. What is the intrinsic worth of the master? What is god's plan and why does it matter? Especially since your god has no god to give IT "intrinsic worth". We all CHOOSE our purpose in life. You have chosen to believe that serving this likely non-existent master is your purpose, that's not enough for me.
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms." (Albert Einstein, Obituary in New York Times, 19 April 1955)
"Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of Nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being." (Albert Einstein, 1936, The Human Side.
The concept of "freedom of speech" being sacred is a paradox, because in a goodless world, nothing can be sacred in the biblical sense. Valuable perhaps but not sacred.
I just love it! I told someone the other day that faith was the act of pretending to posses knowledge that's impossible to posses. It didn't sink in right away, poor fellow. So he replied, "Faith is believing without seeing". I repeated my earlier statement, and then it sank in. The look of shock and offense he gave me was disheartening, because we had and many great conversations and get along rather well. Now, he won't even look at me. Maybe he's just rethinking his position on faith.
"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts.". (Albert Einstein, The World as I See It)
3. There be no better time to repent - In the case of Oscar Wilde He was the quintessential hedonist, yet he confessed that “desire at the end was a malady, madness, or both.” He said that he had become numb to feeling; he’d lost the capacity to feel pleasure. At the end of his life, he sent for a minister and admitted that only Christ was big enough to forgive his sin Again I respect your opinion on point 1. another 2 critique from u if possible 1. Dr Holly Ordway 2. Dr Rossaria Butterfield
It was originally proposed in 1964 as part of a mechanism to explain something else (specifically the spontaneous breaking of electroweak symmetry), but, almost as a by-product, it also provides a theoretical framework for explaining why the other elementary particles have mass. It was independently proposed by three different groups of physicists in 1964. One of these groups was a group of one, who was Peter Higgs, after whom the particle has been named.
" I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." (Albert Einstein, 1954)
As a Christian I put forward the belief that it is impossible to convince anyone of any truth by argument alone because it is by faith we believe and faith is a gift from God, we can't give it to ourselves. St Paul raged against Christians and it was God himself who spoke to him on the road to Damascus. I know because it happened with a friend who's 34 who knew all the scientific worldly wise answers... but happily gave them up when light and truth came to his heart.
"Faith, piety and righteousness: not so much three holy virtues as three ugly sisters." Love it. Just bought both your books on Kindle. Can't wait to get into them.
I didn't say that Jesus said that, I specifically said his European Christianity. Jesus also never specifically said anything about abortion, gays, contraception, or ending slavery, yet Christian churches teach a lot on those subjects, just as they used to teach awful things about Jews. The Catholic church at least had the decency to admit this and apologize for it, but most Christian churches taught that Jews were evil Christ killers at one time.
I would like to address just one point. "No one deserves to be mocked, for whatever reason". I disagree. A bit more mocking of Nazis in 1930 Germany might have done a lot of good. Some people are not open to rational argumentation, and justify their beliefsby associating with those who confirm them. Only mocking and social pressure have the potential to make such people reconsider, thus, sad as it is, it must be done at times. It is better than killing and torture, std religion persuasion tolls
No, I think his point was essentially that you can't destroy faith with arguments. Humanity loves its religion, and faith is a learning mechanism of which some have grown intimately fond. They just won't listen to your words.
Let me quote Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn on Stalin "I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.
It is a typical response, because most atheists (at least the ones who are "active") have studied the Bible more thoroughly than Christians, and they studied it objectively rather than looking for rationalizations to make it seem better than it is. I know a very old German lady who read Mein Kampf as a girl in 1937, and convinced herself that it was a very good book. She wanted to believe Hitler was the savior of Germany. She wasn't stupid, just ignoring reality to suit her desires.
Well done Pat. I have just watched your video of 'Aggressive Atheism'. I wish I/anybody could put it as articulate/plainly as you have. You have my support and encouragement to continue with your many articles on the subjects religious/political that affects us all. Thank you. F.
"bigotry, misogyny, torture, murder, slavery, discrimination, genocide, terrorism and war." Religion didn't invent any of those things. Humanity has always been barbaric. Religion is just an excuse for it. Religion is a justification, its not the cause in itself. I submit to you that even if religion would have never had come to be, we would still have "bigotry, misogyny, torture, murder, slavery, discrimination, genocide, terrorism and war." Its on our nature.
a dog breeds with another dog - it may create a different dog - micro. a dog breeds with another dog and then over 3 million years turns into a pig - macro. do u see what I mean now ?
has remained very elusive despite numerous experiments looking for it. This is because it is alleged to have a very high mass and it therefore takes a lot of energy to create one. Hence the use of the Large Hadron Collider to accelerate particles travelling in opposite directions to very high energies, then bash them together and hope a Higgs pops out. One doesn’t actually see a Higgs boson since they decay extremely quickly. What is observed, it is hoped, are the products of that decay.
