It's not easier to survive out here don't be fooled. This world has gotten a lot darker. It's just there's an illusion that it's a safer place. It's not.
Way harder to survive in a world without real culture, creativity, art and expression... not to mention freedom! New York these days is all about corporate culture and mid-western blandness.
I've been into hard core punk since the mid 80's. Dont think I ever bitched about someones vocals. Its punk. Who cares. its about feeling and what he has to say. You ever got in an argument and said wow I realy like your scream voice. Been a fan of AF since 80's its just great to have an old friend drop by. Even an old pissed friend!
Yes! I don't even like this band, but I respect them! The Internet made everyone into critics and it is polluting almost every video I watch these days! Rock on AF!
Having lived in London most of my life, it is the opposite to NY, when it was a shit hole, the old school gangsters run it and it was pretty safe, now it`s all modern in the city, but the suburbs are more dangerous then ever before, Knife crime is through the roof. Great song, do like this band.
It's really noticeable how London has changed from an outsider perspective only seeing it with many years between... Sadly, it's become just as corporate as the US, but as you said also more sketchy
What a great CD really! Seen these guys so many times, and every time they go on stage, it's spot on! Old songs, new songs, they keep doing their thing and that's what I love about them. They don't forget who they are, they make music the way they want to, they never lost their passion.
I did lights at CBGB's and worked CB's Gallery for ten years and when I went inside since they closed, the clothing store employees of Varvatos told with a straight face all sorts of fanciful BS lies about how the space was set up when it was a club. smh
Anyone used to hang out on St. Marks in the 90's and 2000's? I basically grew up on that block. Miss the old days on that street. Andromeda Tattoo shop, Go Sushi, Coney Island High, the NA/AA building parties, the backyard BBQ's (if you knew someone who had a backyard there,) Alt Coffee, the barbershop near the shirt store, Kim's Video, Trash and Vaudeville (REST IN PIECE UNCLE JIMMY!) Sam's Deli with Afi the French jewelry salesman dude who used to play Reggae music loud and Gem Spa... So many spots on one street. That street; to me, was the nexus of the universe, and everyone was united. Thugs, Punks, Hookers, 1%'ers, Crackheads, Yuppies, Squatters, you name it. There's never going to be a dope place like that again I think, but I surely miss it every single fucking day of my life.
I know I'm tardy to the party here, but NYHC and these neighborhoods and places were my favorites back in the day. Still listen to NYHC but the East Village, St. Marks, Tomkins Sq, and all of those places are not the same anymore, unfortunately. I used to hang there in the 80's, most times never venturing above 14th st if I could help it. I remember shows at the original Ritz on 11th, I just missed getting caught up in the Tomkins Sq riot. If only time travel existed, to see it all again.
CBGBs is gone! Wetlands is gone. The Meatpacking District is unrecognizable. East side, West side, all around the town....it just isn't the same. I miss the old NYC.
as a lifelong new yorker i miss the old new york too. dont get me wrong, i think high crime is bad, but what we got now is just as bad. just a gentrified shopping mall for wealthy suburbanites and the global elite and too expensive and snobbish for alot of the ppl who actually grew up here.
54yo Brooklyn born and bred and yep I miss the old New York. Funny at 0:54 they are on a 6 train at Buhre Ave in the Bronx, that was my stop for nine years when I lived up there. Good song.
After my parents pass away, I’m quitting my job, moving to NYC, and just doing Dope, & going to punk shows. When the money runs out…. it’s time to check out 💣
My aunts friend is the wife of mike Gallo. As a 15 year old guitarist talking and getting to know a real musician for a month really was an amazing experience
The spoken word at the start is from the movie Taxi Driver: "All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets." Biggest respect for the mighty AF!
I sure miss it, to me that was home.. it’s where I was able to find people I can relate to in so many ways not just music, jimmy the guy from trash and vaudeville would be so kind to me, I would go there on my bad days and leave feeling great, now he doesn’t even work there do to the changes, because he him self grew up there
I remember going to Yankee games in the late 70's- early 80's and the area around Yankee Stadium looking like Berlin 1945. Going out to LaGuardia once seeing stripped cars on the side of the highway.
bigcandy, I couldn't agree more. I grew up in north Jersey in the early 90's. Some neighborhoods were still like DMZ's and you wouldn't walk in the LES/ABC or JC and Hoboken alone. Years later, after gentrification, I was transferred to Scranton, PA. It reminded me of "Old New York" more than anywhere else. If you miss the old NYC, if you want to see seedy women hanging around seedy hotels, if you miss the graffiti, the rot, the blight, the junkies....move to a rust belt city like Scranton/W-B, Binghamton, Rochester, Erie, Detroit, Buffalo, Syracuse. Fuck, move to Elizabeth, NJ. These communities would beg for some gentrification.
Roger is cool as hell and probably the most down to earth of any of these Celebrity Hardcore dudes, and I like NYHC as much as the next guy, but if you take a step back it ain’t that hard to see that ALL these bands put out one or two seminal albums in the early 80’s, then spent the next 30 years either doing nothing, or releasing album after album full of songs about how NYC/The Scene was so much more Real “Back in The Day”. Like the old guy at the bar who peaked in high school and won’t shut up about all the cool shit he USED to do. We get it, You Were There. Cooool.
I agree with everything you said. They have a point about how the city changed, but rather then mooing for the past they should focus on bringing the old “NYC” spirt back.
Gonna go out on a limb and say, since he's been doing it for 35+ years, that Roger doesn't care what a bunch of 22 y/o mallcore children think about his voice. Enjoy your All That Remains autotune and move along.
Metalcore was only good for a short period of time for me then I realized every band sounds exactly the same. Progressive metal definitely has it's moments though. But yeah my childhood was fueled by 90s hardcore punk and It's still my main motivator. I remember "Gotta Go" by these guys on a wakeboard video.
That's not happening anyway. Plenty of people are out there getting murked and I'm sure stabbings are among them. Being PC has nothing to do with stopping stabbings. You are always going to have X number of people who commit crime unless you find a way to completely eliminate freedom, which is a society I want no part of.
Sean Devlin I’m pretty sure they were talking about what NYC is now compared to what this song is about, the NYC where violent crime was rampant city-wide. It wasn’t a time for weaklings.
Alex Smith - it's up as a premier on NOISEY (Vice Magazine's music blog). I'm assuming it's exclusive to them for a day ot two. After that I'm sure it will be public on NB's RU-vid Channel.
Just as a historian once said...."New York is never the same city after a decade. A man can go back to where he came from 40 years later and not recognize a single thing." This was said back in 1867. The PC New York of today will no longer be in another 20 years. Smart money would bet on it. But my favorite New York was the grungy New York, pimps, hookers, mob guys hanging out in front of social clubs, porn shops on Broadway, it just had so much more character than it does today. Sure the New York of today offends no one but it rarely inspires anymore either.
I agree, I'm from new York And last time I went back to see family it just wasn't the same. There's no sense of danger, some people might think that's a good thing but not me!!!! I like walking through the city not knowing what can happen. The adrenaline rush the heightened senses. I LOVED IT!!!!!!
You know, I'm a big fan of AF but those lyrics, WTF! Here in Brazil if you get mad about lower crime rates you would be like crucified. If my home city (Rio de Janeiro) became safer as NYC is now since the 80's, I wouldn't be mad at all, even if some of those old lifestyles are gone. (Sorry for the poor english)
Carlos Costa The thing is, everything was different back then. The attitude of people and the atmosphere then is not the same as it is now. It's like comparing granny panties to thongs
Carlos Costa i could not agree more. the lyrics are bullshit end to end. and now don´t get back to me like "you have not been here". i miss the old hardcore, when agnostic front played for 300$ and not for 3000$.
+Carlos Costa They might not necessarily "miss" violence and such. But they probably grew up in the rough and it's all a part of them. When I hear the lyrics "I Miss the old New York" I can't help but feel like they mean "I miss the old days" like, alot of shit happened, giving them alot of life experiences and now everything's just dull and boring. Not that having a dopehead stab you and jack you is fun.. I really don't know, maybe that's how some New Yorkers just are. I could be totally wrong here, I gotta admit I just started listening to them. It is however my interpretations though. Sort of a song reminiscing the good (and bad) old days. Could also have to do with culture. I have no idea how New York is, never even been to America. Anyway those are my two cents.
Carlos Costa new york is gay and liberal. we voted "not me " for Hillary Clinton overwhelmingly. I'm proud to be from this place but I'm looking to relocate to the south or midwest nyc is not the place to raise a family or live a quality life strict gun control, high taxes, high cost of living, filled with ass holes and democrats. I love af seen them many times but hardcore itself has followed the trend of group think and political correctness.
Going back to the old daze would be great! I miss the old NY, but I guess all of us who grew up and moved away are partly responsible for the decline of today. There's no one to beat the cretins back to the holes they crawled out from.
It's been 14 years since I've left NYC....I miss it so much mainly because of the scene.... I hope you guys could come to ecuador and set the stage on fire!!!! NYHC!!!!!!
Any one who says they don't like the vocals obviously don't know AF and don't know oldschool HC. This band built it and you should show some damn respect. Rodgers voice is perfect for this band, any other vocalist and it wouldn't be AF. they stand apart and rise above because of it.
I'm gonna be honest this song is really good and done well but the message is ridiculous.New york was a shitty place way back when,the crime rate was high and it was a dump now its cleaner and the crime rate dropped significantly.Idont know why you would miss that
agrree s.miller some one who gets it- i lived it- the city was gritty but had character and an edge- it spawned all kinds of sub cultures-miss it -city is bland now-if you didnt live it -it is hard to understand it period,
Well the fact that New York is always changing, 10-20 years ago in NY is definitely different than 2020-2022 so I guess you can say, everyone misses their own version of the “old New York”.. You don’t need to have been alive in the 70’s and 80’s to miss the old broken down drug and prostitute infested New York.
The insides of MTA busses are clean... what are you talking about? Even in the '80s it was always the Subway that was fucked up. There were no busses in this video. Am I missing something?
@@CaalamusTube He was referring to the crowd inside the subway, probably poop his pants if he saw all those maniacs together in a wagon lol. Rick poop.
I dont see all the complaining. Yeah sure most of those guys on the video were not even born when NY was "real" but so what. I am from Helsinki, FI. Its easy to tell that I miss the "old" Helsinki. Years ago there where districts near centre that were working class areas. Violent, some times with no remorse and lots of pubs with cheap beer. Now those areas (like Kallio for example) are super expensive to live, there are yoga studios and vegan restaurants in place of. Gentrifcation and the actual thing that you cannot as a working class person live in your home town is real. Fuck that shit.
damn straight! i mean not even CBGB was spared gentrification, how was it not protected? it's funny, this is the opposite of Pennywise's "homesick" which is about how LA was pretty but went 'downhill'.
I'm 53 year's old, the first NYHC band was the cro-mags, growing up in small town Oregon I was listening to van Halen, judas priest and ac dc ,then a skinny punkish look to him sat down at my table in first period math because I had a motorhead sticker on my peechee. By the end of the class I was hooked on thrash metal. He had a couple of garage tapes from San Francisco and it was a mix of metallica and exodus, the other one had some bad brains, agnostic front and black flag. A few years later I heard anthrax, SOD but then the cro-mags were on MTV and it was hey that's the sound from that hard punk tape from sophomore year math and I've been hooked, when I moved to socal it was the last couple years of the west coast punk scene and it was great Huntington beach was a blast. I've been listening to agnostic front and other NYHC bands a lot the last couple of years. Voice what are you talking about it's punk any one who gets up and fronts a band is good enough for starters and I think that all of the old timers had style because it was honest and real. I crank up for my family to get fired up at work. I'm the grounds keeper for our family restaurant 6 acres of woods patios and a wedding grotto. My nephew just looks at me and thinks I'm nuts.
I miss when being a punk was dangerous and the east side was a fallout shelter. Honestly, in today’s world, I don’t think I could ever relate to the scene as I did back in the 80’s. It was the ultimate counter-culture! Sweet share
yeah me too I miss the old N.Y.Maybe that's why Slapshot saids fuck New York.Going to 99x to get a pair of doc.'s ,F.P.'s miss those days Some records Bleeker Bob's playing hand ball what happened it was more of a st. feeling.That feeling gone for me now.It was always kewl spotting Skins & Punks in the St.s
I miss the old New York too! I grew up listenin to this GREAT 🎶. Those days were dangerous AND FUN AS FUCK! I remember The Riot At Tompkins Square Park I was there the night before watching GREAT DIY BANDS speaking out AGAINST gentrification and yuppie scum. N.Y.C. is a sad place these days, BUT WE CAN AND WE WILL bring back those glorious days and nights of FREEDOM!!!🍀
This sounds more like British oi! punk than American hardcore. Funny thing is that most bands on today's "hardcore scene" don't even play hardcore. Of course by "hardcore" I mean music in the style of Minor Threat, S.S.D., Negative Approach, D.Y.S., Bad Brains, early M.D.C., Negative FX, early D.R.I., Siege, Attitude Adjustment, N.O.T.A., Cause For Alarm, Antidote, Youth Of Today, Up Front, Wide Awake, Uniform Choice, No For An Answer. I laugh at morons who think Hatebreed, Bulldoze, Terror, 25 Ta Life, Strife, All Out War, Merauder, Skarhead, Madball are "hardcore". Call it "gangsta metal", call it "thug metal", just don't call it "hardcore.
