Eh...not really. Most people in Masters are tryhards who are just not good enough to be GM/Challanger for one reason or another. Agurin lost it there for sure, but these people are vibing to shit, they have 128937128937 hours in this game and its their identity.
Well he has to continue playing; it's not like he can just end the stream and quit. Also, we don't really remain tilted into the next game often after situations like this. If we somehow lose confidence from some mistakes that make us sad, then yeah we might stop playing; but Agurin and most other high elo streamers won't.
@@Weiinerman Well it's not really addiction for us. I'm a semi professional player; I rarely play. I either play a lot for a tournament or just a few games per month for fun and to keep some of my mechanics. For Agurin, this is his entire life; he streams for money. Surely he could do something else since he's a smart guy, like most high elo players, but there's no reason to, since this is arguably easier, doesn't need preparation and works for now. There are some who really are addicted, but others just play for the money and don't enjoy the game; it's a job for us. Nikola Jokic is the basketball equivalent.
It’s built for “player retention” with the rage-baiting revenge factor that keep players addicted. Just uninstall man. I played for 13 years and finally found a gf and a good job after letting go this dog sh*t crap of a game. Peaked master 100 lp and regretted missing dinners/parties/relationships.
@@Jojifans I'm also Masters and 14 years into this game, but I play 200 games a year and I can't say I missed my life because of this game lol, if you were Chall EUW 700-1000 games every year I'd understand lol
@@Zaiderdarkstar bro thinks if he found a gf he improved as a person and having gf either living this classic life is the right path. Nothing wrong in being gf-less league player imo
this is my favourite rage ever, its pure anger but its so real, League is so fucking frustrating andd sometimes there's just nothing you can do to make these dip shits worthy of your carry
I think most people can't get the perspective he is in. Playing in Challenger is always an investment its not "just a game". Cait is 900 LP Janna was 620 LP at this level of playing you expect people to know what they are doing. Sometimes you don't, but when you are typing it, pinging it and also multiple times, thats when it gets really frustrating, especially because they type back after the game with BS. For everyone that doesn't understand the play: you have 2 options, a team fight 5v5 that is 50/50 OR hes bot, the whole team is top / mid and tries to get the 3rd inhib. First one would be risky and also likely to fail as Kha zixs strength is not direct team fights but picking champs one by one alone. The other option would be to play with the already open inhibs, forcing the enemy to split up, as 2 lanes are already open and automatically pushing therefore creating a better spot to fight. With 3 inhibs open, its barely possible to defend and also get objectives at the same time, meaning its a free win basically. But they hover cluelessly around the same spot that isnt gonna do much except recover the enemies inhibs and also lowering their chances of winning.
While that's all true, the root problem is how he reacts. You can't change what your teammates are doing, you can only change your reaction to it. He clearly has issues stemming from the fact that he is so emotionally invested in the outcome of a single solo queue game- I can guarantee you that none of the top pro players feel the way he does. He plays 10 hours or so every day, how can you not go mad? I don't know how MagiFelix seemed to keep it together, truly monk mental from that player.
@@18skeltor The problem with league nowadays is the reward of winning is negligible compared to the anger from losing. This is a bigger problem in higher elo when you literally optimize everything just to win the LP and meanwhile LP gain is so shit
@@18skeltor Thats cherry picking. Thats one clip of years of streaming and if you know him one tiny bit, you wouldn't type that. His streams are really chill and he doesn't react to that. MagiFelix didn't stream 10 hours a day, even if, you wouldn't know since he doesn't type, which doesn't mean he is not mad IRL. There are a decent amount of pro players who are toxic I don't know what you are talking about. Again, winning or losing isn't the point here its that he's been hostage kept for 20 minutes straight due to lack of knowledge and a huge skill gap. Everything he says is true, there are even challenger players in that lobby.
@@vymere5830 Ok buddy. He's been reacting like this more and more lately and that's due to how seriously he treats solo queue, and the game in general, while it takes more and more from him. The fact that there are plenty of toxic pro players doesn't mean anything. The great ones are not toxic and not so invested in solo queue to the point of breakdowns. Nothing I said was untrue and I hope you realize that one day none of this shit matters.
@@18skeltor I literally watch his streams daily german and english, he is not like you portait him, but if you form an opinion based of 20 seconds, thats on you. You said and I quote "I can guarantee you that none of the top pro players feel the way he does" Do you want a list or what? Where did that opinion come from if not without any reason and how do you want to guarantee it if I could name you at least 10 out of my mind? I quote again "he great ones are not toxic and not so invested in solo queue to the point of breakdowns." He is, by far, the best european jungler in solo q that is, he proved it. Its nice that you devalue him bc he overreacted in one clip. if you go by the logic of "none of this shit matters, yes you will die one day, why not immediately? That doesn't make sense at all does it? Its his career he build up years playing, You should see things different and stop being over sensitive about everything.
I have to say, this is probably close to worse case scenario for a tilting game if I’ve ever seen one, for a legit player with a healthy mental. This isn’t the same as regular toxic players. Healthy players will focus on what they can do, adjust for teammate mistakes, and generally situations will balance themselves as they climb. But mistakes like these are just way too obvious for a master+ game, and easily fixable. Everyone who complains about their Yasuo inting in lower elo don’t understand, that’s expectable, sometimes it can be played off of, sometimes they get the wave at least. This is just disaster, and it’s worse because Agurin is playing near perfectly, so where he would normally be able to focus on something to improve on, there is nothing. It’s like the only play would be to start expecting this from your teammates, but that’s not how you should process anomalies. People who think he should force a 5v5 are wrong btw, it’s not playstyle diff. It’s just straight up wrong. If something works 4/10 times and another works 8.5/10 times, that’s what you do. The reason we have to simplify it to ratios is because either random mistakes occur, perfect play occurs, or exceptional play occurs. In low elo games it’s more likely that playing with “perfect” macro is the wrong play if you are skilled, because your skill will outplay most people with random mistakes most of the time, and your teammates will not perform to perfect play. In high elo, this is reversed. For example, in a low elo game, if you left side to split while your team 4v4s or 4v5s, with the right play you still might climb 55% because teams even out. But if you’re a Smurf, you should be hovering those fights and killing bad players.
it doesn't matter how easily fixable the mistake is. If what agurin is saying is true and they really haven't listened for 40 minutes, then at a certain point you HAVE to adjust to how they are playing or you WILL lose. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting them to magically get better and listen to your macro calls is the worst decision.
@Zolacee you can't control what other people do, only yourself. it doesn't matter whose fault it is. it matters "what is the most likely way to win this game" and doing the same thing over and over again when your team clearly isn't following isn't that. I am not saying it is his fault or it is his problem. I'm saying if he wanted to maximize his win %, he needs to adapt to shitty teams.
@Zolacee no, whose fault it is does not matter until after the event when you want to analyze who was wrong and who was right to do better in the future. in that baby example, the person choking the baby is obviously at fault, but that doesn't mean you should sit back and do the same thing you were doing before cause they should know better. No, you adapt and grab the baby from them. the players ought to know macro at that rank, but they don't. so, you can keep doing the same "right: play over and over again when you know your team wont listen, or you can adapt to their mistakes to maximize win %.
@@dinoo3040 it’s ok, we forgive you for coming for strangers online so hard. You’re a league player, and therefore a victim. This isn’t your fault, and it’ll be ok. The pings can’t hurt you! ❤️
Iove it when somehow you make 4 enemy show up tou your side of the map then they spend the next minute wasting their ults and flashes on you just to kill then they chase you, and while all of this is happening your team somehow does nothing, they just fight over gromps and raptors instead of baron mid push or dragon
@@o0nick Some simply aren't. When ur whole team is just doing SUPER bad it doesn't matter how fed you are. you can't do shit if they don't listen and run it down
This is not true. Games below masters are always carryable. You are just not good enough. Don't invalidate something that is meant for low elo by using a higher elo game example. @@nmjiingz1086
@@nmjiingz1086 more than 9/10 games are winnable. So yea not literally every game but almost any game. There's enough 100% winrate to masters challenges on RU-vid that proof it.
1. No one ever likes getting backseated, in fact they will do the opposite 2. Everyone thinks they're the main character 3. Everyone thinks they're better than the rest of the team Ego thing
agurin needs to accept that people that are worse than him will play worse than him. He needs to accept the chaos of soloQ and not get so personally invested when people play bad. Obviously easier said than done, but you still gotta accept it. SoloQ will never be a structured macro game. More broadly and in general life advice, you can't control what other people do, you can only control yourself. So when he says things like "he wont go no matter what I type" the solution isn't to type harder or type different, the solution is to just accept you can't control him and play around that. If that means you lose, so be it. It's the same as losing cause someone on your team mechanically sucks. This is just a case of macro sucking. You can't get caught up worrying about things you can't control.
@@ShineSpark88 yet, we have a bunch of master players still making that mistake. every skill in league is basic, the thing that makes the game hard is remembering to do all the million things right at the same time
I'm just a diamond player so I don't think I'm qualified to judge his macro but I think the reason why he wanted the team to go top was because he wanted 3 inhibitors down and then pressure enemy team with baron and it's an easy win. Although you can argue that they can just 5v5 or 5v4 once they get a pick, I don't think Arguin is in the right state of mind to do a proper 5v4 against the enemy team now. His playstyle revolves around being consistent and not too aggressive, and playing around objectives. Remember though, he's literally rank1 Korea while I'm a casual diamond player so take what I said with a grain of salt.
Mid inhib is down so mid minions will naturally push. Once an inhib is down you don't really need to go to that lane. Khazix is super fed, he can 1v1 any person that comes bottom. Probably 1v2 even. So enemy team needs to always minimum 2 people bottom. This means that if his 4 teammates go top, the enemy team can only ever have 3 people max. Which means they win 4v3. If enemy team ever sends 4 top and leaves 1 bot, khazix takes bot inhib. If they send 2 bot and 3 top, top wins 4v3 and they get top inhib. All the while enemy team still has to deal with mid minions pushing which means realistically top is either 4v2 or bot is 1v0. Once they crack either inhib the game is basically over. Now they can 5 man group the remaining lane or continue to 4-0-1 or 3-1-1 until game ends.
D1 jungler here. Agurin wants to split the team into a 4-0-1 or 3-1-1 (4 top, 1 bot or 3 top, 1 mid, 1 bot). By the team being grouped, Khazix can split bot and get the inhib. Because he is fed, they will likely need more than one person to stop him. This would make it less likely for his team to die or lose top as they would need 3. Once kha gets inhib, he regroups with team and they can poke enemy team down as they would have no inhibs or stall out objectives as supers push into enemy base (forcing them to give up baron or drag).
Quit a hero or play long enough to become a villain another proof you can't play that game without being toxic riot should just embrace that they've made the most toxic game in the history add voice chat and remove bans for toxicity
@@suebpro9475you mean confident, yes. But you can be confident and still be humble. Agurin is legit just an ape and you dont seem to be too bright too if u try to defend him lmao
funny how he is the one to complain about people not listening, when he literally mutes people in min 2 of games for one ping on enemy champ lmao guy is such a crybaby with huge ego
imagine this guy having 30+ years calling ppl "subhuman" online cause they dont play the game like he desire.. a failed semi-pro league player show us what frustration and bad education brings to.. we should help this guy irl and not having fun of him online, he look like he really need some serious help
@@kirasaki1987 money doesent make u a decent human being! and they dont help u keep your head up when u walk aroud the world! u think saying that fucktupp shitt online dosent have a price? he can get 10k a months even for the next 60 years, this doesent make any difference to me
@@RandomGuy-v1y bro just live with normal human beings! even if he build a job around it, league of legends still only a game, do u remeber it right? league is not real! is a videogame! looks like agurin have passed most of his life in jungle, so now dont know how to act in the common world.. am i wrong boss? cause if there is a REAL subhuman here, at this point we all know who it is! right? XDDD
I can’t tell you how relatable this is for me. Difference being that I deal with this consistently in Emerald and Diamond but not nearly as good as Agurin. Jungle truly is the worst role to play in solo queue, especially when you get 4 apes every game.
Thats a totally different scenario. You arent held back in emerald/diamond because of teammates. Agurin's a 1kLP+ player smurfing in master, so he's 'better'. You're in your own rank
@@highnoon2844 you’re actually delusional. I’ve been to Masters. I currently have accounts in high diamond and smurfs in Emerald. You can absolutely be held back even more so in Emerald and low Diamond because teammates are more reliable in higher elo. Don’t talk if you haven’t played the role, especially in those elos.
typical jgl expierence u play everything perfectly and give calls cause basically every goodd jgler is an IGL (In Game Leader) i mean it's obv jgl has the best overview over the game cause he needs to be aware of all your lanes and enemy lanes so not listening to a jgler who gave u everything is the worst thing a laner can do. i can't count the amount of games i lost because people can't follow simple commands like go top/mid or play baron etc
Because Yamato behaves many times worse every single game, even in a team environment. Agurin was whining but damn you cant compare him to Yamato of all people 😂
ive come to realise the number one skill in league especially in low master is adapting to shit clueless teammates instead of playing the game with perfect macro yourself
Why do players feel the need to micromanage others because they think they are better. Like even if you are better it’s fckin soloq. SOLO q you are playing alone and you shouldn’t be getting mad because the rest of the team isn’t playing like you want them to
You know that he only has 2 acc and the thing why he has master players is because he is high challenger. There are not enough challenger players to fill the lobby so he gets bad master players to balance his team. Loook at the ELO in his game
Thats why i quit this game, old times(S1 to S8), good players can 1v5, now impposible. People dont seriously play ranked games.Riot system very bad, dont ban bad players in ranked games.
His ego is just so enormous, that he thinks every randy sits in his fking stream when they play with him. Then gets mad when they dont listen to calls he never wrote, obv.
@@isoldmymumforrp5371 I mean he is much better. I am usually low master as well if a challenger player comes along (especially a guy who hits rank 1 )and tells me what to do I would just listen to him because most likely he knows macro way better than I do
@@orkawal777 That might be true and good. Others dont think so. And expecting others to think in that way is just stupid. He just acts like everyone knows and is watching him.
Group and get top tower, he could 1v1 everybody. And if they go 1v2 against him you get top tower and Inhib. If they try to stop top push he just destroys their base
If you go top inhib there, it gives more pressure to end the game easier, since you have more range with janna and you're caitlyn so it'll be easier, and that way you pretty much close the entire map for the enemy team since bot mid and top would be compromised, this would lead into easier fights, baron, and a good end angle. Sorry for the flame from agurin tho but I do respect you asking politely, I hope this helps ❤
If you'd like, I'd be able to share the game with you to show you better what I mean, if you're interested ask for my discord, it's always nice to have someone asking questions!
Its almost as if 8/10 people in this game are challenger and 4 of them have over a 60% winrate. Agurin may be right but he has no social skills or knows how to deliver his knowledge properly.
