AI Anime, Summertime Render & Michael B. Jordan's Anime List - Basement Life Podcast 5 

You should definitely do a video on Summertime Rendering! This series is so unknown and underrated! it deserves more attention. Maybe You can sell like a Murder Island Mystery, something like that

Summertime Rendering had such tight lore and pacing. Easily my fave last year.

I think the approach to recommending anime to newbies is to give examples of genre for them to pick for themselves and then give follow up recommendations if it clicks. for example sports anime- Haikyuu!! if you like Haikyuu!!- Prince of Tennis, Hajime No Ippo, Slam Dunk fantasy- Ranking of Kings if you like Ranking of Kings- To Your Eternity, Berserk (97), Spice and Wolf Sci-Fi- Akira if you like Akira- No Guns Life, Cowboy Bebop, Psycho Pass and then if one or more of those click you can use them as cross examples for future recommendations. like say if someone liked Bebop and Ippo you could give Megalobox as a rec

I love summertime rendering and would absolutely watch more content on it from either of you!!!

Crust often refers to low quality. When it refers to age, it specifically refers to old video games, because it's in reference to lowpoly models, low-res textures, and compressed voice lines. It's the crunch.

Re:Zero could be a potentially good introduction to anime, the character and plot is strong enough to carry itself, but the experience would be enhanced by being familiar with isekai tropes Death Note has been a constant recommendation as a starter anime since it came out

You guys collect the fallen whiskers of your cats too? ❤

Oh man, please lock the autozoom next time! The weather changed today and my head congestion combined with the slight change in camera distance is triggering a migraine...lol!

I am firmly of the opinion that 'last season's anime' is the best stuff to watch because it's all done and I can watch it all when I want to, and I don't have to feel like I'm inside a specific cultural bubble of 'we have to talk about things right now,' so I'll prolly check this Summertime Renders out. **EDIT:** I did and Summer Time Rendering is now one of my favourite anime of all time, holy hell, that thing whips so much

Still waiting for the summer time rendering video assuming your still doing it as you did tease it. It's so so so good. Like probably in my top 3 of last year definitely my favorite non sequel.

It's the AI bots commenting. The mob is in fact just the AI.

For me, the first half of Summer Time Rendering reminded me a lot of The Promised Neverland season 1. Starts of with an "oh s***" moment to draw you in, sets up early on what the threat is for our hero without explaining everything, and then, as the mystery is slowly revealed, our leads are making these tactical plays and counterplays against a competent and very dangerous enemy. It doesn't keep the plot quite as clean and strategy-oriented as TPM, but the ending still wrapped up everything in a very narratively satisfying way.

I know you paused to fact check, but I had also seen the English novel(?) version of Vampire Hunter D back in the day.

Who is the guy in the middle of the thumbnail??? Thanks!

1:14:14 I opted for Mob Psycho over One Punch man, since it puts a good chunk of focus into the mind of Mob way more than one punch man does for Saitama... as for the action and hero structure... well MHA and AOT... *and and! I think those open you up a bit to like one punch man.*

ore monogatari for romance cuz its fluffy and cute as shit. slime time for isekai cuz whilst it does have some anime bullshit, its relatively light on it.

Gosh, that thumbnail. I decided to check out the comments under corridor’s video, and I really do think it’s full of positive messages because none of their watchers kept watching the video more than once. The faces just get worse the more you look at them

I've heard people in the anime fans say, "I tried getting my brother/sister/girlfriend/boyfriend into anime & they didn't bite" fam if you only recommend Shounen and action Seinen you're not trying AT ALL

Color-coordination!

One Punch Man is excellent, but is it is pretty much a satire of typical battle anime. In my experience, someone needs to be familiar with a genre to appreciate the satire.

Hey, just wanted to say that although I disagree a lot with your opinions on AI art (copyright and IP only serves the corporations, imo, and derivative work is just how art evolves), I still appreciate you putting them out there. Also I gotta admit that I get second-hand embarrassment from all the deranged comments on that video.

Also it's kinda subjective to the sentence so both of you are right. Crusty can mean either or.

Also I read an English novel of vampire hunter D it was also kinda boring to me as wellllll lol

Yazy's ongoing dedication to blowing out the eardrums of headphone users is an inspiration to us all.

my main issue with these recommendations is that they are very long. If I'm recommending anime to someone new to the medium, I wouldn't ask them to commit to hundreds of episodes right away.

still waiting for disney+ to air summertime rendering in my country... imagine securing a licence to an anime and not air it everywhere you can

If I had to pick a top 5 for anime newcomers, my picks would be Death Note for an accessible thriller, Violet Evergarden for emotional drama, Yona of the Dawn for fantasy and romance, Haikyuu for shounen sports hype, and Spy x Family for broad appeal with a little something for everyone. My heart wants to recommend niche darlings like Mushishi and Death Parade, both of which I actually showed my mother in her fifties who doesn't know a damn thing about anime and she really enjoyed!)

I think my biggest issue with Michael B Jordan's list is that the shortest series there is 150 episodes and it's really hard to have someone who wants a sample and then tell them they need to watch at least 3 full days of content to see if it's something you like

Summertime Render desires more love, it was an awesome anime!

Summertime rendering was fantastic- it kept the twists coming, it was perfectly paced, definitely would be my go to recommend for a thriller

Paranoia Agent is what cemented me in anime, I grew up with (french dubbed) Harlock, Galaxy Express 999, Maringer Z, Macross ...man my model collection is making a lot more sense El-Hazard got me started on Isekai arguably but there's so much anime bullshit. But best cat tho

Yah! Basement Life vid

What I liked about summertime render is that everytime we think we understood the mistery, there is another little mistery that comes

Good starter anime with romance: Inuyasha. It has something for everyone.

The video could be a bit louder. Otherwise great.

Weebs are the cringiest people on the internet. *Techbroes:* "Allow us to introduce ourselves."

Honestly surprised Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Trigun, and maybe Outlaw Star were not on that list. Ironblooded Orphans Spy Family is another good entry one One Punchman Deathnote Something like that gives you a wide spectrum of what the medium is in various ways. Foodwars: "What about me?" I love you Foodwars but you are definitely intermediate level for those that want to go down the rabbit hole. Edit: Megalobox and Yu Yu Hakusho two starter kit recommends too.

may I suggest Geoff amplify his audio... he is a tad quite... raising my volume fixes that personal issue... at the cost of Yazzy occasionally giving a DBZ Kiai to the ear

Summertime Rendering is great, up until you think about the perspective of the villains for like 5 seconds. Spoilers below. So the whole thing is based on time loops and how when Shinpei dies, he branches off into an alternate timeline where he has the opportunity to try again. However, that doesn't change anything in the universe he died in. He is simply jumping to another timeline. It's not like the timeline he died in in the first loop is destroyed or erased or anything, and if he manages to take out Haine and the priest guy, that happens in the universe he shifted to, not the one he left. So, at the loop on the 24th where the whole island is consumed and Ryunosuke (or the sister counterpart) domes him with a shotgun.... Haine won. She did it. She consumed the whole island, sans Shinpei. He can fuck right off to an alternate reality and stop it all he wants to, it isn't changing the reality he left. Technically there is a reality where Haine completed her goal, we saw it happen. All that tiny little idiot had to do was jump to the reality where she won and reaped said benefits. Now, that being said, all this timey wimey bullshit is always more complicated than it's worth, so if you just suspend your disbelief and don't take it to seriously, it doesn't matter. I loved the show so much, I watched it a second time in a week with my wife. If you want a more complicated and even more well thought out time travel movie, watch Primer. It's insane. Thank you for your time. I hate myself for thinking too much about this.

Oh my god I love that Video & Arcade Top 10 Hoodie! Such great memories of that show from my childhood ❤️.

Some other good beginner anime that I would include are Golden Time, reincarnated as a slime, spy x family, mob psycho 100, and code Geass

Unless I was told otherwise I would've assumed that song was Crash Man's stage

still waiting for that nft video that corridor said they were doing. after they made those nft promo vids basically with beeple

I wanted to like Summertime Render, and I REALLY did in the beginning. The first few episodes are *chef’s kiss* good. But gradually it began to feel like every twist was almost purely for shock value with no noticeable foreshadowing. things just seem to happen. Also, I know it’s a thriller, but this one was really lacking in character development or development of character relationships aside from the most basic of cliches. It’s just PURE plot, which isn’t my cup of tea. The lore sure was cool though! That almost got me through it, but I ended up dropping it around episode 20.

Hot take: Gundam 00 is the perfect intro for new Gundam fans. It’s a little bit Wing, a little bit the real-robo of the UC, a little bit super-robot cheese of G-Gundam, it’s a blend of everything, and it’s pretty great!

I do want to mention I agree with Geoff that I liked the original FMA as well. FMAB does the whole story better for sure, but some of the pacing and char dev in the original beats some notes of FMAB for me. Will not agree with anyone that og FMA was trash.

Hot take: I think Summertime Rendering would've been perfect for Netflix. The story and visual are ideal for binge-watching IMHO.

For the right audience, Odd Taxi can be a great first anime.

for me... the anime to recommend depended on the person i'm recommending. sometimes is jojo sometimes is ore monogatari sometimes is eizouken

I'd watch a main channel video by either/both of you

I gotta hand it to Summertime Render, it opened with a panty shot and while I thought that was gonna set the tone for fan service in the show, the panty shot was actually a plot important part of the time loop narrative. Brilliant work

Honestly, FLCL (the original series) is probably a good intro to anime-it’s short, it’s weird but not offputtingly so, the dub has localizations to make it accessible to westerners, and it’s just fun

100% agree with Yazy about that anime recommendation list. I think something like Gundam: Witch from Mercury would do way better as a new introduction to the medium, because it's an artistic achievement you couldn't just do in another medium easily while telling a very good story easily recognizable to anyone with a general history of fiction: the prologue is completely self-contained story about a small family experiencing dramatic events as they're rocked by the storms of a wider world, it's under an hour, and it's free on youtube, so the barrier to entry is incredibly low. The overall anime borrows the structure and themes of Shakespeare and is thus recognizable to most of the world thanks to the influence of western culture. There's no fanservice or sexualization of underage characters at any point, there's barely of the anime rules lawyering bullshit that's endemic to shonen battle shit, there's no isekai. Save that shit for niche interests after the 101 is over IMO. Just because we're talking about anime doesn't mean we have to focus on the most stereotypical ass anime possible, otherwise we'd be recommending Rent a Girlfriend and making sure nobody ever gets into this medium ever again lmao edit: WfM also has the romance angle covered. If it must be a hetero romance for some reason, Insomniacs After School probably works better than like any other het anime I've ever seen. I think Re:Zero is like as close as you can get to a decent Isekai, but I hate that entire genre to the point where anything I like that people call isekai I feel compelled to argue why it's not, like Otherside Picnic (urusekai is a different word from isekai!!). And the last time I watched a sports anime was Keijo so uh. can't really chime in on that one lmao

58:10 (my thoughts after watching the anime man's video about this) [ *I may add more* ] If it's for a specific person I'd ask questions first. If it's just a general one to capture the feel of anime. 🤔 1. Attack on Titan. 2. My Hero Academia 3. Fruits Basket 4. SAO Progressive 5. Mob Psycho Why? 1. for the mystery, war, politics, and thriller, it starts with typical anime tropes but immediately slaps you back into the messed-up world. 2. Fills the school, tournament ark, coming of age and Shonen spot, as well as not immediately having super high stakes, also fills that feeling of battle and big punch outs that can lead you into dragon ball, JoJo, Baki etc. It being based on super heroes also will help if you're already into DC & Marvel. 3. I'ma be honest, I've only seen a few romances, and it's a bit weird, so I just slapped this on here to fill the Shoujo, romance kind of spot. 😅 4. SAO... but movie, more focused on Asuna, supposed to be better, fill that in another world or in a game spot without going full Isekai 5. It focuses and the more human aspects of characters and the real struggle of the main character. It's a great start for shows like that, and I think anyone can see a part of themselves in these wacky characters. It's also set in Japan with the whole school vibe and club just like fruits basket leaving a pattern there, and it's a comedy and beautifully animated. Given 10 options, I would branch out a bit more, but with just 5, this is what I got from the like 200 anime I watched/know of; and I think they lead into other shows well.

Glad you mentioned Gundam 0079, that’s a low key choice that is great for fans of western Sci Fi, it has similar storytelling. Another show I would mention is Cyberpunk Edgerunners. It has western people on the creative staff, and it feels targeted towards a western audience while also having animeisms in a palatable way.

I would really love to see a video about summertime rendering. It's a really interesting story and it deserves an in-depth video. I think you could probably do what you did with the chainsaw man What's in an OP? And split it into spoiler free/episode 1, and spoiler analysis

Evangelion Cowboy bebop Toradora FLCL Made in Abyss Mushoku tensei Gundam wing Paranoia Agent

My list of five anime for newbies that cover lots of genres and don’t take 100+ episodes to get into (in no particular order): Soul Eater (shonen battleish with a slight hint of horror) Horimiya (shoujo romance) Haikyuu (sports, with potential fujoshi/fudanshi shipping fodder) SAO (isekai with a bit of harem - don’t come for me, it doesn’t have to be a good show to be a good example of the genre) Bunny Girl Senpai (wildcard/“don’t judge an anime by its title”) Edit: alternate wildcard for the furries, Beastars

1:15:25 uuuuuuuuuuuuh what happens in sweetness and lightning ? oh I think I recognize that dad and kid. what's wrong? is it that they might find shao tucker... no that doesn't make sense... oooh perhaps that H anime that has a similar relationship dynamic or a dad taking care of his little daughter and find love again... except the lady is a actor in a children show not a chef... and you know its less story more uuuuh ....fun times with papa and new mama away from little angel

Have you ever played the Jackbox game Trivia Murder Party? Shide sounds exactly like the narrator in that game, same distorted voice and everything. He's great in the original. Also why do you guys only have Volumes 3, 5 and 6 of Chainsaw Man?

58:06 Honestly, him recommending 5 super long running series like that as STARTER ANIME is asinine. One Piece alone has over 1000 episodes.

wow there are quite a few single parent anime... uuuh the title "listen to me girls i'm your father" is a bit concerning but i'll justy ignore that looked for it on anime planet btw

I feel like a major issue with Jordan's list would be the sheer time involved. Like, one piece is legitimately one of the longest series of anything in existence. Over a thousand episodes. Even more manga. It just seems like it would be way too much for a beginner.

I do want to say Hunter X Hunter seems great for young teens / middle school audience based off what i've seen with my relative who haven't watched a lot of anime. Hisoka is gonna creep them out tho... way more than like a graphic scene 😅 *so yeah, pre-teen to teen approved* ...unless they are in a super edgy or beauty or love phase i guess... the phantom troupe and darker stuff in a bit in.... and there ain't no beauty and love stuff 😅

Did not expect y'all to bring up Oda. Glad y'all did, though. First time I heard about his bs was in a random Reddit comment. Second time was here. 😐

34:14 oooh that's very interesting, to skip now or to keep listening...... seems quality enough that I can take in a few more spoilers

If I were to put dragon ball on a list like that... I would put Kai... or maybe it's better for someone to experience it in a game

So this is probably going to get me a lot of heat, but I have the most respect for artists out of just about every profession because of the time and the effort that went into learning and making the art. But however to use the human child example, how a child learns to be better at art is learning for other people's art, composition, line work, proportionality, reflection, colors, all are learned by artists from other artists and what they did. I wouldn't say that the child is stealing the art because he is simply walking through an art museum and learned from the artwork for reference, neither would I say an ai doing the same with an image of said artwork. And about how ai can produce an example copy of a piece of art, so could a skilled enough artist if that's what they're trying to do, and I wouldn't say that that person would be stealing the artwork either. Why should an artist be compensated for having their art used as a reference, when humans do the same thing; cannibalizing artists hard work to learn it for themselves, just as the ai is doing? But this isn't going to completely eliminate artists, just has handmade items are still around and always will be. Hell if your into art, the vast majority of the time it's not even the art itself that matters, it's the artist and the meaning behind the art that makes it valuable or important. And ai isn't ever going to make that change

15:00 ... either this was made by an AI, in which case it can't have copyright protection because AIs are not human, or it was made by a human, in which case it broke copyright law by using artwork from others.

oh come on, why is it so hard to get a good anime starter list for people? here's what I go with: death parade, vinland saga, Attack on titan, fruits basket, Monster, megalo box, a silent voice, redline

Imagine Twitter children getting upset about anything, then have to tell their bad opinions to everyone. Liking their own comments is not surprising in the least after what I see on the daily. Btw I love you podcast.

HxH takes a while to get going. I couldn’t get past the 2 cour first arc to get to what my friend was calling “the good stuff.” Maybe it is good, but 9 hours is a lot to ask of me before it gets there.

Haha love the Video and Arcade shirt. Thats Canadian as fuck.

Maybe the self like is a redditor mentality (?) cuz reddit always upvotes your own post, it would make sense w the type of arguments in that video

The idea of automation in art is odd, like in terms of comics I don't like Superman just because he's superman, I like Superman because Grant Morrison writes him, I like Superman because Jamal Campbell or Jorge Jimenez draws him What I like are the works of the artists on these things Of course there's more nuance to this than I can fully explain in a youtube comment but those are my basic thoughts

I was asked recently by someone who never watched anime on what to watch first. I said Avatar the Last Airbender. Told them to finish it first to get used to Animation with an overall plot running from start to finish, it has its fun fluff episodes that still have call backs to later on but once they are done with it then have them come back and talk about what they want from the next experience.

The whole argument that they don’t the time to learn how to draw so it’s unfair to gatekeep art is so insane. Imagine if someone was like that for sports. They created a cyborg suit for playing basketball and thought it’s unfair if they aren’t allowed to use that to play in the NBA.

Please try to sit much closer next time so we can get a much tighter shot 👍 Audio is about 30% too low....

I think good gateway anime are One Punch Man, Spy x Family, and Haikyu.

Ahh classic shounen hater. The only thing wrong with the list Is that they are all long series. But I shouldn’t be surprise.

It’s extremely hard to recommend anime to first timers. It has to have broad appeal, not too long (26 episodes max) and not too horny.

Definitely second Escaflowne as the “good intro to isekai”.

Geoff I’m begging you for a summertime rendering video one day. Sleeping on this show is as tragic as sleeping on OddTaxi

I've come to accept the inconsistent releases. I'll just enjoy each episode as it comes gang, can't wait to listen to this brain-bbrrring content and commentary I'm sure

As much as I like Hunter x Hunter, I think Yu Yu Hakusho is a better starter anime.

53:45 ok who is this... cause that is some serious stuff, I need to know.

1:30:06 does it have an english translation? was it only the first that didn't

One piece is actually about socialism and comrade Luffy will save us all

Summertime Rendering is on Hulu in the US. I hadn't heard anything about it, so I hunted it down.

57:50 I’m saving this for my shit talking to shonen heads

Watching everyone sleep on Summertime Render as it aired was a travesty.

First thing I heard in that intro is Crash Man's theme from Mega Man 2. Does that count as getting the reference?

is it just me or is the audio on this one a little low

There is no such thing as the perfect anime to recommended anyone. People are so different and varied to anything can turn someone off or on from anime. Trying to find something that has no anime bullshit to recommended is impossible because all anime has some bullshit its anime after all. Trying to find a perfect Aime to recommend someone because it's not embarrassing rather than a show or series that you genuinely love but has shortcomings and flaws is the wrong way to introduce anime to someone new. Anime can be bloated, weird art style, weird, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, cringe, inconstant, too long, too short, to high concept, too dumb hiding these things isn't going to make a new fan a fan. But if I look at someone and say please watch One Piece it's something that is really a part of me, something I really love and something I want to share with you, not even the perfect most well written excellently performed anime can beat that recommendation. Michael B Jordan shared his love for anime with all of us. Like most anime fans he wants people to love and enjoy anime. And what did the anime community do they shamed him. They acted like gate keepers who knew all the right questions and had all the right answers. In everyone knee jerk reaction to the list of anime they failed to see the forest through the trees. Here is a really mainstream Hollywood celebrity telling people to watch anime, and the community response was no don't watch anime. So, what M.BJ. is a Shonen head does that make him less of an anime fan? No. So, what if the list is all Shonen anime does that make them less anime? No. Maybe everyone right and the first 100 people that look into theses anime series won't become lifelong fans, but that doesn't mean we should discount the 101st that will. I choose to celebrate MBJ list. You go king share the series that you love. No matter how good or bad or different they are from what I would like, I know there are people out there that will fall in love with these series just like he did when he was young kid throwing up ninjutsu hand signs or doing Kamehameha in his bedroom watching toonanime.

I love to see a video on it so bad please do a video on it.

1:04:04 cough demon slayer. I think it's a good start, with troupes that aren't off putting to the average non anime fan... *but I opted to remove it from my list to place AOT and MHA* to balance out darker story that subverts and more wholesome story that gives yah the troupe and training and save the world vibe

Gateway isekai: Sprited Away?

The "now I can make the awesome ideas in my head like these legitimate artists" argument is just the plot of the first Futurama series finale, when Fry needs the devil's hands to play the holophoner

that theme was the mega man 2 crashman stage geoff