AI "artists" be like... 

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i ammm sooo glad more and more artists are waking up to this , preach it brother , and thank you so much for your effort to spread the word out !!!

Unrelated but good job with the lip syncing bro that sh*t is way too difficult lmao

I wouldn’t call it an oversimplification, as it doesn’t relate to reality much. At the moment, AI does the very same thing artists do - it looks at references to make its own picture. The linked video does not deny this. In response, it says: « The details of stable diffusions’s, or any other model’s process, are not what we want to get caught up on, as new methods will be developed, new companies will emerge, and the technology will change » (8:54) The first part of this response calls us to ignore details, and the second is speculating about technological advancement (which is fine in context of that video, but not for understanding how the A.I. actually works). Furthermore, the whole section of the video does not seem to ever deny the process’ description in the argument. To be clear, I am by no means protecting the “AI artists.” The artwork is created by the A.I., not by the prompt writer. Edit: I had time to watch the video properly now, and it seems to be mainly talking about the ethical issue. The author even specifies that the A.I.’s output is still art.

Yeaa.

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Or hearing your joke and re-telling it for the whole class to laugh (K&P reference right here)

not only copying. they are the ones who had the idea, but let another person copy it for them

@@Sanches7557 the guy who said the joke, but louder

Sad part is there's one that come to mind. Though I can't remember his name, he's gotten called out because he's been posting on twitter his clearly AI developed art without tagging it as either AI or non post edited material. A few art drama RU-vidrs though I know made videos on the situation, but story is the guy opened like a Ko-Fi or something along the lines of that for open commissions to sell his AI art aka compiled stolen assests

until ? there are so many of them, what they 'teach' you is how to put prompts LOL

@@L30N_M Wow, that sounds awful. Selling AI art without tagging it feels like such a scam. I mean taking requests from friends to make a neat profile pic is one thing (I used it for my DnD character), but to make paid commisions is stealing with extra steps

Don"t worry, that patreon channels are not selling art, are selling prompt tricks, so the consumers are thereselves lol... And people who sell "art" are basically scaming so their business has short life... There was scams since a really long ago, people who even sell artists content without consent,

@@Sanches7557 that doesn't sound just awful. I'm pretty sure it's illegal too. It's sad to see this because a handful of scummy people gave such a bad reputation to a tool that could've helped actual artists find new ideas and inspiration.

well typing "someone eating cheese realising it was their hair" is worth arguably $30 of course, if that argument is with a toddler

But it's HARD WORK to type what you want. No joke, I've seen someone use that excuse once for calling themselves an artist... To be fair though, it probably is hard to type "hot anime waifu" while holding two waifu body pillows.

@@cantin8697 its definitely hard to add 30 watermarks and send over the screenshot one handed too

@@cantin8697 its easy to get random good looking pictures but hard to get specific good looking pictures

The worst part is some people are buying it

Same cope about piracy jesus

stupid comparison Here, rather, I watched hundreds and thousands of bakers create decorations on their cakes, I took those that fit my composition and made them my own way

@@dranfessa please shut up

Well, I wouldn't say I *made* it, more like employed modern slavery to make it and so now it's mine

@@dranfessa made it your own way, you say? By telling bakery what you wanted on it?

Yeah (and reference that they can’t find)

Are we forgetting that Ai can get better??

@@randominternetuser2436 i mean yeah, but it's not that fun to just use words to make art, it's still art but depressing

@@Akacchin I don’t think those companies are making Ai to be fun, they’re training the Ai just to be sold for big companies, nothing more.

And making a lewd picture specifically tailored to your desires.

The second one is cap. How pur they not chefs if they cook the food

@@the_big_5_is_the_goat OP's talking about fast food customers, not employees

Well technically fast food junkies do make shit.

What if I make art, think it’s good then 7 months later feed it into ai, trace it and fix it up a bit, and make more art? Is that technically bad?

And the ai in question was just an HD regeneration of my own art

yep

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This hits me in another stage of pain

*cough cough* wehraboos

Culture behind it is crazy when you talk about drawing

And they help. AI will not replace artists. But there are always people who want to take advantage of it. And that's okay. AI is a tool. How you use it depends on the person. Here is a pencil, you can draw with it. But... you can use it to poke someone to death. And people start blaming the pencil. Not a person. Classic.

@@Mozgum how is it a “tool” if it makes the whole thing for you?… Tool implies some sort of input by the user to execute an idea.

​@@TheRealAbraxas well you can use ai as inspiration or like a foundation, but you cannot use it for the whole thing, think of it like nails, nails can be used to say help build a house, but you can't build a house out of pure nails, and expect anyone to live there.

IAs? Like an essay?

@@lolkhars3525 probably they're French

@@sugarsenpai8432 yeah "Intelligence artificielle"

@@lolkhars3525 Typo I think lol

@@LotFrat france🤮

THIS RIGHT HERE ☝

Exactly! That’s like saying you’re an author bc you posted an AI Dungeon session online

And when Ai becomes good, they will just sell it to big companies, selling ARTISTS work

I'm a regular artist but I also use AI and consider myself an AI artist. I think the difference between some dude just using AI and an AI artist is that an AI artist is good at giving good prompts, using Img2Img to repeatedly change parts of the image and put it back into the AI to get the exact final result and layout you want and using good compositing and colour adjustments to make the final image look better. I don't think an AI artist is remotely on par with a good regular artist, but I think to me at least the term is there to separate people like me who put a lot of work in whilst generating artwork and the average AI user who just puts in a prompt and gets a piece of art.

@@EdenHamilton I get your point, but I must question, do you use your own art or just an Ai that steals other people’s art?

I would prefer to pay for a piece made by an artist with a signature style that I‘ve been following, even if I could get an identical piece from a computer. It’s less gratifying and takes the value away. This is less true for industry art/corporations.

Based

Underrated

exactly that

Lmao best description I've heard so far

And they took it without paying because they "made" it

@@AI_is_a_tool The argument is VERY valid. You clearly don't know how difficult it is to make art. You're acting like a fucking domino's pizza is the hardest thing in the world to make. Also, 'your art will never be worth $400' HOLY SHIT HOW CAN YOU THINK THIS!? Have you never heard of any famous artists EVER?! There are MILLIONS of art pieces that are worth THOUSANDS. Oh, and your surgery argument can get thrown right out the window because the machine is being used as not only a TOOL, but as an ASSIST to the surgeon. NOT as a replacement, unlike AI. You need to learn that artists put care and love into their work and most of the time have been polishing and practicing their skills for YEARS. AI generated images takes seconds to make and has no care to it whatsoever.

theyll also tell you that youre greedy and its a good thing youre being filtered out of the job market

@@Azarthes I mean it is pretty greedy I personally have had my art stolen but I don't give af. It's a waste of time to care about getting art stolen even if the person gets more attention than u, like if u care about art getting stolen than ur either a attention seeker or sensitive or want fame waaay to much. But this is all my opinion tho not a actual fact👐👐

@@the_big_5_is_the_goat i dunno i dont exactly think artists are greedy when theyre trying to get credit that costs nothing for their work i can see a company or a person not crediting an artist if they purchased the art, money has already been given and im not their marketing agent. but outright stealing... yea

@@Azarthes meh

@@Azarthes I don't either tbh. All of my opinions are very simple but also very very complicated so it's like meh 🤷🏾

not really surprised there.. they spam images hundreds per day while real artist post once a week.. they will get more attention of course..

L to AI artists ​@@ferrijuhul

Or also like asking chefs to stop making complex dishes because mcdonalds exists

exactly. even hooty agrees

Yeah or like ask the bakeries to stop making bread when you literally need bread to make a sandwich in the first place

Me basically on anything lol

when it's for fun quircky horrors, sure But when people "train" the ai to simply emulate an artist art and punish that artist, that's too much

Some years ago I liked to use it as inspiration for my own art, just for fun and training, I remember being so excited about the whole machine learning thing. Now its just sad

Mainly because it is uninspired. Like the few that used it at first had cool ideas, but the mainstream population doesn't. Like, I'm getting really tired of Beksinski, Giger, Junji Ito, Greg Rutkowski and others applied to very mundane stuff.

Agree

Never thought I'd be in the same boat as the "show your work" kinda of teacher

Yes this right here

Assert dominance by 150 word description of what you want

@@matheussanthiago9685 "you and I aint so different after all"

assert dominance by asking for something extremely specific and detailed

It is not legal, however, there is no certain strict rules on it yet. Imagine being the first photographer in the world and selling your photos as realistic physical art

PRETTY MUCH :(

That's the thing, it's still not even legal lol, no matter how much you changes you make to the original, as long as you still used it without permission or license you're still violating their copyright, it's just the word copyright has become such a dirty word on the internet that these people know they can just bully the actual artist into submission by amassing a mob to harass them.

@@aflockofconnivingmagpies3490 I'm sure you could make the case that the art is "transformative" and therefore fair use. That said I think this'll probably just be a fad like NFTs. People will stop being impressed when the novelty wears off and people see how unintentionally offputting the images are. Still gross for the time being, though.

To avoid this I think StableDiffusion use Public Domain art or Creative Commons as their copyright are made publicly free. If you want an actual issue, consider using a certain living artist's name alias to create a specifically tailored art and see if they consent about it. If they are using a living artist's name then the AI is directed to take many of their arts directly.

not all of them, i have seen some ai artist's debunk this because of comments like these....so how much do you wanna bet 🤔

Yes I bet most of them can't

crippling phobia of pens and papers or something

@@menace21_self63 then use your own art and stop stealing ours lmao

@@Rainjojo real

@@ThatZenoGuy they don't say the words, they feel like that

Depends on who defines the "art", I as a customer don't really care how the painting was created if it fulfills to my desires.

@@thesun9210 “Fulfill your desires?” What the actual fuck is that supposed to mean?

@@midnalazuli793 creating what i want to be created, what else could it mean? I want an art and don't really care about the source if art is good for me.

@@thesun9210 Can you really say you appreciate art if you don't even care who or what makes it?

@@midnalazuli793 i can appreciate something apealing to my taste, it's no difference for me if it's made by man or machine(also it's very hard to differ if decent amount of efforts have been put into AI art), same applies for lots of things and the world still didn't collapse because machines took some jobs, i see no difference between AI revolution and any other technological revolution, people lose jobs, prices go down, same as it many times happened and will happen many times in the future.

How long to you take to draw a picture? I'm not an AI model user at all, just wondering how exactly you consider actual artists to be superior to AI.

@@amartious2123 AI can't capture emotion at all. It can't tell a story with body language or texture. If you try to generate a human then you'll get random limbs, extra fingers, a third eye. If you try to generate a house or a scene then it'll be incoherent and messy, it does not look professional at all. This is becuase the ai doesn't draw or generate from scratch. It looks up random art from the keywords you gave and mashes several peices together. It's like if you buaght three different cakes and stacked them all on top of each other without removing the decorations. It's obviously someone else's hardworking and you kinda just look like an idiot for calling yourself a cake decorator. Real artists are far superior to ai generation.

@@amartious2123 :/ the picture generated by an AI took several years worth of hours due to how much data was needed to correctly make your Squidward Anime Girl icon a reality. Then another set of time just taken to make the damn thing. So yes, an actual artist took less time to make the images the computer is tweaking long before it photoshopped 50 images together.

@@amartious2123 I dunno, maybe because AI literally MERGES ART MADE BY ACTUAL FUCKING ARTISTS? Ai is a cheap art blender that talentless attention seekers on the internet use to get clout. Nothing else.

@@amartious2123 from 5 sec - lifetime. Usually take 4 hour for me. Well A.I might be powerful but they can't create styles, yeah they probably can copy styles from a certain artist like Van Gogh but still they can't copy their history and legacy. Real artist could fix the mistake of a painting while A.I probably change the whole painting, sure they can develop some kind of correction command to fix a certain mistake in the painting but that would take an entire crew of developer to do so. Actual artist might understand more of the customer request when doing something like commission, an A.I would not understand human taste,it just do as the command prompt says, some command might overlap sometime.

I don't get the point you're trying to make because most artists can't code in the first place

@@Sharp22CatFish I don’t think that’s the point of the comment Is there really any need for coding when it comes to drawing or painting?

@@ceejay_outstanding6546 I understand

Realest take

Actually some of us code and draw. It's all helpful in 3d work. AI artists will fall behind because of their laziness

Well both takes effort but making real art is much harder

@@omnipresentcatgod245 yea sitting on your ass and typing words is so difficult while me sitting for 6 hours is so equal to ai that doesn't even move a damn brush😂

@@SpookyHost Do you think we just type words to get the AI to work perfectly, Nah it's much more complicated. I take hours to generate what I call a "perfect image" without anatomically incorrect things and perfect lighting, proportions and shadow.

@@omnipresentcatgod245 literally just clicking a button

@@omnipresentcatgod245 ive used ai art before, and as an actual artist that makes real art, it IS as easy as it sounds. sure it might take you a tiny bit to generate what you want, but all youre doing is sitting on ur ass and clicking a button. no skill involved.

If humans stopped drawing, the A.I.s would still be able to. If the database was erased, they wouldn’t.

You're a serious hypocrite

@@ihavenoname7599 how am I a hypocrite?

@@noobatredstone3001 ??? database? You do realize that the database was only used to train it, the AI model exists independent of the database all over the internet that can be downloaded locally on any computer.

@@dibbidydoo4318 Well, then it would just become impossible to create new art generating A.I.s.

As long as they can’t invent new things we’re not totally screwed

Or the opposite is possible if $ex bots will become more advanced. So bad that it is good actually.

@@electrocola9765 uh oh...

Ai was a mistake 💀

It's the "AI replaces humans"-shit all over again lol

Lmao😭

Hey,as a artiat myself,first off I'd say,don't give up,(: your improving alot trust me and ai can NEVER so what you do other then steal shit, the motivation is that your better then a computer! :D keep on the improvement take breaks when you can and see how far you've come on day!really proud of you!^^ cant wait to see you in art museum one day! :D good luck!

dont give up, please. giving up is the worst thing you can ever do because everyone starts somewhere, you will only get better with time. if you continue, in the future, you will look back at yourself and will be glad that you never gave up.

Give up. While you hone the skill of drawing hands - the AI will already make at least 20 masterpieces at the level of world art. While you learn how to draw eyes - the AI will already make a step-by-step instruction for its "works". By the time you learn anatomy, there will be soooo much generated art, that people will basically lose any interest in art and you will simply lose time.

i feel this, I've already been struggling with motivation for various reasons and this is just a cherry on top

@@mr.milkoloid9467 ​ haha no. art can be fun and fulfilling to make. it doesn't matter if a computer can do it better. acquiring skills is cool regardless B)

How is anyone going to enforce that? you think only big companies have access to it? anyone with a computer can remove it.

@@dibbidydoo4318 the process of removing any kind of watermark is of course scarilly easy

This would be pretty easy to remove, tho i did see a lot of people forget to remove the watermark and get called out on their BS

Big waterwark covering 80% of the image so they can't crop it like little shits

They actually did this with DALLE-2 which always has a watermark on the bottom right, but that can be easily removed by cropping it out. However, each AI generated image has invisible watermarks, machine learning engineers which are ethical could work on AI art detectors trained on them, but they would need to be very careful on such a model and how it is shared or used, as the detection could also be used to improve a model.

at least tracing can be used as good stroke and drawing practice as long as its not being shared and removing watermarks just increases the popularity of the original artist if they get called out. ai 'art' garbage is just a shitstorm of a bunch of stolen artwork put together to make something "new".

Tracing is fine Others are not

@@lorekeeper685 well, tracing is not hard. At all. Designing and training a generative model is. So I'm with AI here. At least, it is more hard work than even drawing a painting it will learn from

@@usser-505 why not do tracing than? It's more moral it looks better and it's easier So why use unmoral ugly one? That machine learning causes

@@usser-505 except the fact that YOU are not the one doing it. That's the work of a software engineer, not AI "artists".

Try to poison your artwork with nighshade or use glaze

unfortunately, it is being used maliciously, diffusion stability or something i dont want to bother naming has actually tried to create a workaround to the copyright law in order to make profit off of the arts the ai created based on copyrighted arts.

It feels like the nft craze all over again. Granted, I don't know if it will end in the same way or at all

Honestly i hope so. I mean, in the end all AI art kinda looks the same so if anything look the same people would seek something that looks different. Like you can't eat McDonald everyday. For example I follow a lot of indie heavy metal artists and Lot of them has started using AI art for their cover, to the point I kinda grew uninterested of the cover and stopped checking them. However, I clicked to another band with like 7 views (Pistacia, If anybody is interested) for just the album cover art for how raw/sketchy it looked.

Nah companies didn't pour all this effort in this just to be a trend. They're already rolling out 3d modelling ai. This is the future, for better or worse

@@metausername7195 I just hope it falls down then, like Meta. It would be funny to see like companies putting dangerous amount of money on AI and then having people still liking real artists.

I love this comment

There's more to AI art though, like good prompting, editing problematic details and perfecting your art, but i get your point about people who just post raw results from AI.

@@thesun9210 I'd like to know more about AI. Not interested in using it, I can paint quite well on Photoshop or CSP. Internet stranger here politely asking you If you have some experience with this and tell me more about it.

​@@anordinaryfellow2832 well, everything starts with a model, the very base of any generated image, it can be realistic, anime, cartoonish or 3d like, they all give different results and demand personal prompt approach because of weights which affect the noise alteration and as such the final result so a lot of time goes to find optimal key words for every model you use. Then there are smaller models, LORAs, that bring in custom weights and which trained on specific images like characters, styles, clothes and such, their role is to bring something new into the base model, something that wasn't there, i think artists mostly complain about these because there are lots of LORAs trained on specific artists like WLOP or SamDoesArts, and results really look like drawn by them, but it's not really what the whole community rolls around, because characters, detail improvements and NSFW content are far more popular. There is also img2img tab which primarily used as photoshop to fix details like arms, eyes or anything else that needs fixing, or it can be used to generate arts from very basic sketches and it's also used for upscaling the image from 512x512 up to 4k+ or even expand the image beyond it's original content, it is present in photoshop i believe, this feature was very hyped on release, and on SD it was present from very early on. There are also lots of extensions with their own systems like ControlNet which allows to generate characters in specific poses, or take depth maps of pictures to alter the originals without losing the main idea, or also canny type which used to capture all the outlines in the picture, which can be used to paint manga for example. So it's a very big ecosystem that doesn't come down to simply steal artist's work, it's actually a very powerful tool to skip most of the labour work and create new things, that rely only on imagination, community and prompt manipulating skill.

​@@anordinaryfellow2832AI is only limited by how limited the human mind is, basically because its made by a human

@@thesun9210 That's actually interesting, from the way you describe it. It could truly enhance and make an artist's workflow much faster and more effective. Oh, question( if you don't mind): So an AI generator generates better images if the model that is being employed is (generally speaking) "better" right? Are there developers who charge money for these models? How much could they charge? Or are most models just free to use? (Wanted to thank you for taking your time to write this. Im just Tryna expand my view on this new technology. Guess I'm too lazy to Google it up or smn 💀

Art is a form of human expression, AI isn't human, it has no emotions, or anything like that. Therefore it cannot create genuine art. (Also Art, like you said requires actual effort.)

@@AI_is_a_tool wow you were wrong four times in one and one fourth paragraphs

cope HARDER for me pls.

@@ccordyceps the average brainrot response. no surprise there

@@emmariley1980 LOL soo mad. keep it up for me.

​@@ccordycepswhiny bitch alert !! Average ai "artist" !! Cry louder, lmao 💞 xoxo

​@@ccordycepsno life troll

Can you tell me the name of the anime?

@@shivanik5315 carole & tuesday!

@@naudalyke man I totally thought you were gonna say Vivy: fluorite eyes song for a second lmao

@@AshEshyr 👀 no clue what that is, but I'm interested lol I'll check it out

@@naudalyke I love that show!

Wooow.... wait a second. Can you imagine how hard it is to make AI do that? its easier to Just draw. Why Don't you Just shut up bc you Don't know anything about AI and programming.

Try to make your own program like that. Then tell me how much effort it took

@@ihavenoname7599 I tried and failed bc I am not very good at AI programming. I am Better at games and websites. Also programming AI is one of the hardest things to do in the world.

@@GrBiEdits Exactly, thank you. We just disproved that making AI doesn't take "little to no effort" and at least programmers actually contribute something useful to the world. Now I'm reconsidering wanting to be a designer- I don't want to be associated with these entitled brats.

@@ihavenoname7599 Bro the ones who made AI are cool and all but the ones we are talking about are the users who use AI to generate images and then sell it.

Some of them are even too lazy to describe and ask chat-gpt to write the prompt 🤭

Remember in Detroit become human all the people were attacking and hating on the robots, we should start doing that in real life nowadays

Ah yes, because i learnt to draw with dragon ball i can no longer sell my art because i was trained on a copyrighted media, yeah shut up

@Merucry Poison In Dune there is a galactic war against AIs and computers. Trillions of people died, but using AI is now a herecy with the death penalty. Just a suggestion ;D

@@merucrypoison296 Tell me you haven't played the game lol

@@chuchu5946 In Sumeru any kind of artistic expression is illegal because of how useless it is, we should try that aswell. (Obviously not) Keep trying. AI can't be stopped

No.. most people who are good at math use calculators.

Are you dense? Maybe you should've worked on your common sense instead of a useless art degree. Any 8 year old can make better art than you and you're just salty about it. It's time to get a real job.

@@noobatredstone3001 yeah lmao, its a main reason even most upper end maths classes require you to have calculators out and why many tests and shit have calculator sections regardless of skill level. theres likely much better analogies out there but i get your point maybe another one would be claiming you're good at writing stories and shit when you just use talk to transformer or other ai websites or claiming you can speak another language when you use google translate to even be able to say "hello"

that's a very bad example, since it's required a lot of the time regardless of your skill level, but i get what you mean...

Better example: A.I. art is getting your friend to solve an equation for you.

Not the Art Commissioners, Greedy and Happy Merchants.

That's wild 💀

THAT' THE RIGHT SPIRIT! YOU CAN DO IT BRO!

Same

Yeah but it'll be even more art in the database of those AI so... It don't really solve the problem... (Sorry if it comes off as rude😖🙏)

The better u r art the better their art

@@dingdong896 Not if they can't find it ;)

Yea, capitalism really needs to be regulated, it's absolutely unsustainable in the age of automation

Someone probably needs to put restrictions on the machinery used on factories as well, since it decreased the number of work hours needed to produce a single product and thus left many people unemployed, right? Let's thank god people like you are not in power to make any decisions and regulations, otherwise we would still be in a stone age.

I cant wait for it either, then these annoying artists selling crayon drawings will have to find an actual job and only the good artists will remain, for everything else there is AI.

AI freeing us from all jobs? Sounds good.

Effort and quality doesn't matter these days. People just care about pumping shit out as fast as possible to make a quick buck.

effort doesn't equal value, that's a dated communist concept

Fr fr,can be good to think of ideas,but once a job or somethin,that shit is just made lazy lmao

I also use Ai generators for fun

don't use the programs period, i emplore you to watch the video in the pinned comment. these ai, with every generation, are being trained to replace us

​@@thealliedpowers Sounds like a skill issue

@@cooliostarstache5474 for now. and its not really an skill issue. right now, only in novealAI tag on pixiv, you have 50, 000 images. just in 24 days. artist cant post anithing in most tags because those tags are flooded with AI work spitted for secord. in the arg arms behint back, of each 60 work on each page, there are just 3 human made work. its not just "who can make a better image" its, the reality of our works beeing invisible on the sea of AI generated work.

@@hontilash the term skill issue is a meme, btw. I wasn't making a serious comment, at least not 100% serious

@@cooliostarstache5474 sometimes it gets really hard for me to not insult people, i hope you have a horrible day and at least improve as a human being

Maybe. Or maybe just cheaper. It's nice to have 3 Michelin star meal, but it doesn't matter if all you can afford is frozen pizza. Same with commissioning artists and doing stuff with AI.

Naah art isn't so much about how it looks, but what it says, what thoughts, symbols and emotions you portray. Art that just looks good isn't relevant in the long run. Even if the technology evolves to the point that you can just think of a story and everyone can see it in great detail, if the story is trash nobody will be moved and it will be irrelevant.

In other words, you just have to be Shad from Shadiversity.

Lmao i like that the artists as a coping mechanism decided to make up the fable of the a.i that creates collages.

@@misterprop9089 they could've gone for an actual argument route instead of a shit talk route tbh

@@misterprop9089 Elaborate please, I'm just talking from what I've heard , if it does work differently I'd like to know how

@@justachilldude4356 It works similarly to people. It analyzes images related to the prompt, and finds patterns. Then, it uses the learnt patterns/relations to create a new image. Basically the same as using references to learn.

@@noobatredstone3001 Source? I tried looking it up to double check but got a completely different explanation that was more in line with the "Splicing" idea. In any case I can see where artists get the idea from

The AI is the artist , and what it makes is art, compared to what humans do, it does the exact same thing, you just have no understanding of what you are talking about but there you go sharing your thoughts about it

@@ajdndbdjbdj what do you mean the AI does the same thing that people do? Are you saying that the AI picks up a stylus/paintbrush and then spends countless hours creating the art? Ai just copies the art of random people on the internet to create the ai generated art.

@@ajdndbdjbdj what I meant by "it will never be art" is that the fact it took no effort, time, skill, or money for the ai to create the "art".

@@JacobXavierGurtones does this guy knows? I dont think so, you see, i mentioned something in my original reply about not knowing what you re talking about before sharing your thoughts, guess what, you've done it again

@@ajdndbdjbdj WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING WRONG????

How would you do any of that?

@@pikaa-si9ie the problem is where to start, there's some options but they will cost some preparation, time, maybye money and organization. The "association of concept artists" started something similar, but i don't know if they achieved something sustancial, last time i checked they tried to make other pages put protection clauses to some sites, but nothing more i heard. that would be a good advance, even better if sites like artstation, or other art sites could implement that (that doesn't fully stops someone from stealing your art, but it gives you the tools to make them take your work out)

update: the syndicate wasn't needed, the concept art organization and a formal lawsuit (aside from a 2008 debate about a monkey picture... yes a monkey selfie saved us) was enough to send this debate to hell, we are winning this.

Funny how you copied a comment to mock people who copy artwork

@@domukelis Oooh, the irony.

'Cause it's a statistical average of millions of other artworks. Even if you're being honest and ethical with how you *use* the AI, and aren't telling it to deliberately copy a specific work, it'll still look like a Weird Al style parody of whatever you ask for. Especially if you prompt-engineer with terms like "trending on ArtStation" or what have you, which is basically deliberately asking for trend-chasing work. For what it's worth, it is possible to get the AI to spit out stuff that doesn't look like that, but it involves either playing around with textual inversion, fine-tuning, Dreambooth, inpainting, or prompt-engineering. The people who are using AI as another tool in the toolbelt are drowned out by the people using it as a bullshit spam tool.

@@SuperSmashDolls Yup. I've seen a few really good results, but they've obviously been touched up by a human hand I think, especially if the eyes are not swirling death abysses that Machine Learning typically makes. But those good ones are like needles in a haystack, that was created by hay chosen by hand out of other even bigger haystacks.

thats gonna stop you? Money?really thats the thing that will stop you from the glory of being able to manipulate reality with your own two hands? hey being an artist you should know we do it for the thrill of creation and not for something that will taint your progress. but cant beat them, join em, but thats advice for guys like you. if youre not an artist, oops rip you read through all that.

@@cingcing3540 not everyone is a freaking Leonardo Da Vinci, some still need a job and money, "passion" alone will get you nowhere. Since AI "artists" just managed to outsmart real artists, then yeah it sucks lol that crap could get sold in a cheaper way. But hey isn't that how the world works nowadays anyway? For the grind baby

@@ammagon4519 cheers

@@cingcing3540 sorry for breaking your bubble, but many will leave art not because they stopped enjoying it, they will leave it because nobody eats love for breakfast. You can argue that you can get another job and still make art as a hobby, and you'd be right, but every artist aspires to make art for a living, as few things are more glorious than living what you love. and that will be the first thing we will lose when AIs make freelancers obsolete, and the only ones who can make a living from it, are those who sell art as a method of money laundering.

@@hontilash oops I know, I have some loose wires in my head. Mean like never had much in the first place so it won't change much

and this is why AI won't replace most creative jobs, lmao

Finally someone said it. Thank you 🙏

Fact.

And then attract only degenerate Twenty to thirtysomethings who always have minors DNI and be only relevant to them.

Late reply ik but A tool for what exactly? Seems to me like it was specifically designed to replace artists who make money through commissions If you wanted it to generate reference images you're better off just searching the internet yourself

@ennope9005 even though AI can generate really impressive images, it will always have difficulty trying to make art as perfect as a human can if it can't even draw hands properly 😅 This is just coming from me, but AI art should be used for inspiration, y'know like instead of imaging it and having a hard time keeping that image in your head, you can see it better on screen and shape it into what you originally want your art to be. You should also mention that you used AI art afterward if you want to share your work because it's better you tell the truth rather than hide the fact you used it because it also shows you have integrity.

thats even more fricked up then saying that you made it holy frick

same, i think its fun to experiment with random phrases and words, but i am also someone who does both digital art, traditional art and photography

YES!

I still remember that time where I used dale-mini to make "Jacksepticeye chasing you with a knife". Those were the good ol' days