@TheMasterOfShadows well I'm far from a newb thanks. I'm 50 and have been playing and writing in 15 bands since age 16 but this is the first iteration and if you had any foresight you would see it's only gonna get better
@@darrendaj Well people who know music know at this point AI is still a baby and being worked on, only people who don't know music think it has already replaced them. If you know you know, if you don't then you take offence.
@@AstroQuestMusic dude, I check out a lot of ai music, I would not call a majority of it good. Some good, a lot ok, majority is just messing having fun goofing off. In your hands being as you know music theory you should be cracking out good songs left and right. My opinion, is AI can inspire you to create works of art, AI at this point wont make it on it's own.
I’ve been using this for about a week now and made a few amazing songs. It’s just so mind blowing to me. I feel like a wizard showing people what it can do.
Made and posted two songs both with Suno and Udio and I can’t say I like one better than the other. One thing to note is that it’s pretty hard, or impossible, to get consistency with Udio when it comes to 2 or 3 minutes song, whereas Suno will keep the same melodies, verses and/or chorus, throughout the whole song. But Udio’s voices are really impressive. And it’s only a beta. Can’t wait for what comes next.
Found Udio about 3 days ago and I'm having a blast with creating full songs with it _ There are some limitations but the possibilities are suitable in it's beta state _ Things are getting nuts in AI music, Amazing!
This is AMAZING! I learned about Udio a few days ago from another RU-vid channel, and I immediately signed up on their website. I like Suno, but I will definitely continue to create songs via Udio. Thank you for the overview! :)
@@theAIsearch ??? I made 10 minutes songs that I could still extend with udio back when they gave us basically unlimited credit during the beta. Is suno not limited to 4 minutes anymore?
Udio's AI makes the best of masterpieces. Its so much fun and inspires so much creativity. We are here at last. It does suck at the moment that you have to merge a few pieces together into one and it can be a bit hard to do it with the AI, but iv been able to make full songs with it, perfect transitions, context, consistency, etc. and it is insane.
Ngl this looks way too similar to Suno lmao. I was looking for something with that doesn´t have limit. Thank you for showing us!! The most annoying thing about Suno is that it has a limit of how many characters you can use in the lyrics and genre tag which makes it very difficult to make something really specific. I already love that about Udio. It´s just fun making some cool sht in my free time.
Since Udio released, it feels like Suno has been suddenly improving in several aspects: generation speed, prompt coherence (somewhat), number of generations allowed , all images now way better... Seems like they definitively are pressured by Udio. Let's hope the competition keeps going.
Despite having way worse "irl" voices compared to udio, sunio actually emulates Hatsune Miku's voice WAY better than udio does. Probably a training data difference. So, that's actually a point for suno.
I was very disappointed when I put in "vocaloid, Hatsune Miku" in the prompt and it just returns a human voice layered with synthesizers and autotunes. Nevertheless, Udio is pretty cool
Holy moly, this is already better than SUNO with voices - it sounds more authentic and really hits an emotional nerve with the generated songs. It must be a very frustrating time now for musicians. Quiet Nights by lawrence is the most impressive creation ... bringing back Chat Baker 🙂 The ballad Hymn of the Loving Spartan Capybaras by kiwibirdy is also very impressive. The race between the AI music services will become very interesting.
you shouldn't. i believe ai is just gonna create a higher standard for creative jobs and everyones overreacting. all this music sounds good to the ears, but it's "basic" if you know what i mean. it just takes music that sounds way too similar and combines it into something that sounds good, but isn't unique.
Just tried it... Yes much better sound... But not as lyrical and musical al suno... I thought suno was a bit bland at first too, but experimenting with prompts really works wonders sometimes in. Even jazz and classical. Ill keep an eye out on this one though. Thanks for the tip!
As a musician who has been hindered by the constraints of work and family responsibilities, I see this as a godsend. I still write lyrics and have song ideas but never have the time to arrange and record. This allows me some semblance of creative expression.
Your songs made with AI are going to be totally worthless. Nobody will care if song includes your own lyrics or ideas. Actually they just slow you down, nothing else. After you have finished one song made with AI with your own lyrics, meanwhile neighbour kiddo made 100 just as good songs with AI. This is unfortunately the truth.
@@tomhe286 LOL musicians make music that they like FOR THEMSELVES as an expression of creativity. They don’t do it for other people. I’m enjoying Suno and don’t care if others like what I make on it or not.
@@CreAiteMusic Even you dont believe that. Or why should they share their music, do live shows and so on? No, its not about musicians themelves, it is about music, sharing, having fun together and even impressing others
@@tomhe286 nobody becomes a musician so they become rich or famous... it's a by-product of doing what they love. Do you think the Beatles asked their audience what type of song to make next? Or what album theme to do? Granted as they got more famous, producers and so forth advised them - but ultimately they did what they wanted. No need to be so bleak, my friend. Use the tools you have around you to make what you like - whether it's a beat up guitar with a single string like Brushy One String or a full, slick multi-million production suite. Peace!
Now try to finish Carolina-O because it ends abruptly at 1:38. It's the only thing I can stand on Udio and yes, it's beautiful but I've been trying for a few weeks to finish it and it's impossible in Udio's current state. Udio can't remember how it sang the first chorus to save it's life. We're talking basic song writing, basic hooks.
This is amazing already and it's only in Beta. Imagine this a year from now. We finally have some top competition in the AI Music space; that could speed up enhancements.
I'm having the most fun generating traditionally instrumental rock styles, mostly surf. It's quite the battle between Udio and Suno, because the results for the same prompts are very far apart, and both are great.
The dilemma here is again, how proud can you be of something like that, because apart from the prompt and then the selection of sample parts, your own creative effort is extremely small or at least not very high. The same thing with generated images, somehow you have the feeling that you did it yourself, but if you're honest you pretty much didn't do anything yourself. I wouldn't be able to actually do something like that on my own..so there's that. if you get some kind of satisfaction or self worth out of being creative then all of this ai stuff deprives you of that, at least that's how I feel...
Totally agree with you. We're gonna live in a world where no one will have a job and everything will be artificial and devoid of meaning. Sometimes I wish the internet had never been invented.
@claudiusbuser I’m a visual artist and using Ai as a tool, and as long as I still spend a few days tweaking and redesigning and interacting with the image in procreate, I still feel satisfaction. In that way I’m starting to feel positive about Ai art gen tools. I totally get you on the feeling of satisfaction creation brings, but prompting isn’t very satisfying nor the outputs, just as they are.
It highlights the difference between Art and Craft. I'm good at coming up with melodies, for instance, but still trying to learn how to put music together (further handicapped by not knowing music theory or playing an instrument) - what I could actually do with is a generative AI system that takes a melody and turns it into various completed forms. My own work is Art (in my opinion anyway, otherwise I wouldn't be doing it) but not so great on Craft. I find generative AI to be the other way around: accomplished in production values do "uninspired" melodically. It comes across as the work of a gifted and competent (human) composer who unfortunately never wrote anything with a memorable tune (there are a lot of these!). Having said that, Udio does occasionally come up with a good memory but we have to select it (training the system in the process) and it doesn't seem to know how to develop it (though that could change). The other issue I've found is that you have to retrospectively interpret the genre. For instance, I got some that sounds like a Czech violin piece by Dvorak - but when I asked it to write a Czech violin piece by Dvorak it came out with something else.
I mean I don't feel proud when I listen to the latest platinum-level pop songs, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy listening to them... I do enjoy creating. I write so much just for the sake of coming up with new ideas and worlds that allow me to express myself in ways I can't do using other people's ideas, but I don't see other people creating as a threat to my enjoyment for writing. If everyone in the world suddenly wanted to write just as much as I did, flooding the market with every possible idea or combination of ideas imaginable, then my reach as a writer would suffer, but why should my passion be stopped? It's the same with AI, yeah it opens the door to more creations in all forms of quality, but it doesn't stop us from creating anyway. If someone enjoyed telling an AI to make something for them more than they would enjoy making it themself, then who is losing from that? I like writing, but I don't know how to cook, so is it really a dilemma when I "deprive myself" of the satisfaction by eating ready cooked meals? When AI first hit the scene I was very conflicted. I wanted empathise with other creatives who felt like it threatened their way of life, or even their way of expressing or supporting themselves, but I've honestly come to realise that AI is a tool that gives us more control over what we can get out of this world. And when something promises to show us the world and all we see is garbage, we tend to feel anger, hate, and fear for that very thing that tried to show us the world. But the truth is that AI isn't the reason for that ugly side of humanity, its simply a magnifying glass over the broken systems that we are already victims to. We shouldn't be slaves to our work, we should be free to enjoy it. We shouldn't feel the need to rely on our art to keep us fed, because with or without AI we still deserve our basic right to life, and as long as we have that it doesn't matter what people can generate without effort as long as we can create for ourselves anyway, which we always will be able to do.
Artists and musicians who create music will still be making their own songs, I play with this AI for fun, but I still make my own songs though, and I can't record my songs using AI
I’ve been using Suno for months- I genuinely can’t understand how people don’t see how much better Udio is on so many levels. Suno has some great features no doubt, and the length and speed of generations are far superior. But when you’re talking about ‘quality,’ I’m mesmerized by so much of what I’m hearing from Udio. Can’t imagine where this will be in 6 months!
i'm cool with computers exhibiting artistry. i'm a classically/jazz/metal trained musician and dance/EDM/pop music producer, myself. i already use AI tools and love doing the collab. AI still hasn't shown me any cool chord progressions as cool as the ones I invent, nor play lead guitar anywhere as scary as I can. yet...
"Ai is great, it helps me" Moments later - the person is directly effected by this "Ai" "No... No... It's bad cuz it took me job... Boohoo" When I kept telling people that this is bad they said I'm full of shit and a gatekeeper. Idiots.
Awesome video. Im curious if you know of any Music AI that will allow you to input midi data, or even sheet music, and have it play it back on a given instrument or instruments?
It highlights the difference between Art and Craft. I'm good at coming up with melodies, for instance, but still trying to learn how to put music together (further handicapped by not knowing music theory or playing an instrument) - what I could actually do with is a generative AI system that takes a melody and turns it into various completed forms. My own work is Art (in my opinion anyway, otherwise I wouldn't be doing it) but not so great on Craft. I find generative AI to be the other way around: accomplished in production values do "uninspired" melodically. It comes across as the work of a gifted and competent (human) composer who unfortunately never wrote anything with a memorable tune (there are a lot of these!). Having said that, Udio does occasionally come up with a good memory but we have to select it (training the system in the process) and it doesn't seem to know how to develop it (though that could change). The other issue I've found is that you have to retrospectively interpret the genre. For instance, I got some that sounds like a Czech violin piece by Dvorak - but when I asked it to write a Czech violin piece by Dvorak it came out with something else.
Udio feels to me like when the Iphone first came out...like "magic". I think it helps to be a pro musician to really get the full benefit of the software (in terms of taking some of these generated ideas from "sketch" to "actually decent-to-excellent" work of art), but the implications of this software are astonishing. It's an 'idea supercharger' that COULD ironically lead to a resurgence of decent music.....or further flood the market with audio crap. Your call fellow 'cheaters' ;) By the way, People who make "beats"? You are screwed. Decent songwriters? This thing is addicting. I stayed up till 2 am generating custom sketches last night. Some laughable. Some amazing. It goes places I wouldn't ordinarily go but probably needed to, like a good writing partner.
this is a nightmare unfolding. Soundwriting and creatives in general are in real trouble. I'm seriously worried. I mean the music market was bad enough a few years ago from the streaming platforms payouts..this crosses all the lines.
that' mu'a dib track was hilarious and very interesting surely the prompt is important in making a track like that. one wonders what kind of self-prompts AI will create that are more interesting than human prompts...
Just a little update, UDIO can now do 2.10 songs instead of 32 seconds. I do have a sub to it so not sure if it's on the free version but I did actually ask if they were going to this and a week later it appeared.
AI works just like real musicians meaning the better you write the song the better it can play and sing to it. A hit song don't care who writes it or who sings it.
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's not. Sometimes it ignores the lyrics you tell it. I'm not sure why you have to Extend, extend, extend, extend... just to get a usable song. They need a button that says "Go as far as you need to go to complete a full song." The boon for me is, I no longer have to make aerobatic dance videos to copyrighted music and have every single one of them shlt on by YT.
You’re requesting a single button to make a whole song, whereas every serious creative type is begging for shorter generations and finer control of the output. I would rather extend a track 100 times in order to get the song I want, than generate 100 full songs hoping one of them is exactly right.
@@imptea The problem with repeating extensions is between extensions sometimes it doesn't clip the ending off the last rendition... okay, maybe it never does... so you got the song ending... then a pause, and a whole new verse starting. Sometimes a dramatic pause and restart works out there, sometimes it doesn't.
@@imptea In this song, I lucked out and made like 5 extensions work: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u6is_XCnz6s.html In this one, not so much so. You hear the song ends, then the next extensions were nothing but talk without guitar: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Pt1dmzsO3YM.html
@@choppergirl I’m not sure what you’re doing differently than me; I never struggle to extend a song when I want to. You realize that now you can choose to trim parts off the beginning / end of your audio to help make extensions easier? Sometimes I’ll have a generation that ends as if the whole song is ending, so I just chop that part off and keep going.
@@imptea How do you chop off the end of a song in Udio. I can do this externally, sure, but no idea how to do it in Udio. I don't even know how to tell it the chorus from a verse. I just wing it a chunk of text at a time, and hope I didn't paste too much that it don't clip the ending off. Which sometimes it does, have you noticed that... loses the last word? In fact, how do you reuse settings and a singer for all future songs. Is there some way to save a reference or seed value or something? They really need to allow you to paste the entire lyrics of your hand written song, with designations in brackets of what part of the song is what.
Superb. I actually like the songs generated like the vocaloid one (with the cat dancing, it is even better). I am wondering is this will help composers with little budget and small studios to generate beautiful and creative songs and can it produce a file that you can edit with music software like Ableton? Anyway, Thank you very much for this instructive yet funny video ^_^
2 questions about this site - Firstly; In these promps, which types of things can or can you not say? Could you tell it to use certain chords for example and be endlessly specific about any other thing that you can think of? - Secondly, can you also ask it to make a song in the style of an artist, mention an artist etc?
Certain chords yes but don't expect extreme consistency. Same for basically every other technical detail about music. Most of all, don't ask for too many things altogether. The technology isn't quite there yet. Artists yes but only those who won't get them in trouble with copyright. So yes for Bach and Frank Sinatra, no for Beyonce.
UDIO is very good with vocal generation. And since tracks of 33 seconds are generated at a time, over the course of a long composition the melody changes a little all the time, which gives the impression that the vocalist is constantly improvising. This sounds very interesting and lively. Here is an examples of the compositions that I generated using my own lyrics: This is a ballad in the style of the band Skunk Anansie ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-To_ZpgnUaME.html And this is track in a style of Alanis Morissette ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_hZS6l2y39w.html UDIO even could create somewhat decent progressive rock (!) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NuCkiDaUykE.html
nice! I've also found that udio vocals sound better than suno. however, as you pointed out, its hard to keep the same melody as i keep extending the track
If I click on "extend" the next part it generates is too different from the first imo Is there some trick to make it sound like one song instead of multiple different parts? Or to repeat section like chorus and have identical (other than lyrics) verse parts, etc.?
Hey, I'm looking for a way to change lyrics on a song and keep the same singer, you seem to be very knowledgeable, could you name me a few leads/tools I could use?
you can ad ad libs to your song by putting text between hooks (text ad lib) and put his behind a line of text in your song also you can put a command between brackets tot put drum of guittar solo to interupt the song text [ guitar solo] text or a instrumental break [interlude] or [instrumental] try for yourself
Can you reformat your "tip"? It makes little sense. "put his behind a line of text in your song also you can put a command between brackets tot put drum"??
I personally still like Suno more. Let's see where this goes because it's still in beta. I'm just kinda lazy to crop out my lyrics to fit 30 secs lol so I'll be sticking to Suno for now until Udio starts supporting longer generations. Suno's current limit is 2 mins so I rarely need to crop my lyrics because most of my lyrics aren't that long. I can definitely see the quality tho Udio definitely sounded better I'd say but Suno does good enough for me rn and again I'm too lazy to crop my lyrics. Ah it reminds me of the old times when Suno had a 30 secs limit man it was painful to create a full song properly.
Lol. This is like the 7th video about this. Udio has some interesting features but the songs are not even 1/10 the quality of what you can do on Suno. These RIP Suno clickbate-titles is laughable.
@@theAIsearch, just comparing the two, you're right, Udio (in my opinion) does have better vocals and cleaner/clearer audio than Suno... I was hesitant to create too many songs with Udio until I saw this video regarding the Terms of Service! Thank you for this informative video! :)
I agree most of the time the clips are without a soul but when you generate enough clips and find a good base and then start extending that clip and doing some cutting/inpainting you can create masterpieces with it, it's just not a 1 click song like suno.
I’ve been playing with Suno a lot and have used Udio quite a bit. I fuck with Suno way more, maybe Udio can make a more complex song, but none way less of them actually sound good. They just arnt catchy and dont ride the wave
After spending way more time that I should've with both Udio and Suno, I ended up liking Suno more. I only played around in 4 languages so admittedly, my scope was limited. Udio, when works, puts out amazing productions. But the huge amount of post processing it does, makes the outcome almost random. If there's something even half-specific you're looking for, you will spend many hours in the trial-and-error chamber. Also, in my experience, Udio wasn't close to Suno in the non-English category.
I’m only a couple minutes in and scrambling to find the rest of the “Carolina five foot five song”. Ok, I’ll watch the rest of the vid to see if it exists somewhere.
Exactly, basically they have stolen copyrighted music and now all composers/musicians are finished. We will also never again see any innovation, just regurgitated AI music based on previous work by humans.
@@FuerteventuraGuideI disagree, we will only see innovative music or AI music, I'm all for AI to kick dumb music that is pushed and made popular by the big music corp.
It's impressive with a couple of clicks everybody can generate a song. I have a lot of questions now. Is this the end of songwriting? Will automatically generated songs replace human made songs? Will this discourage people to put effort into music in future?
OH MY GOD THIS IS INSANE THE MEME POTENTIAL IS INCREDIBLE WE FINALLY MADE IT ON ALL FRONTS THERE IS NO WAY IT CAN EVEN GET BETTER THAN THIS WTFFFFFFF THIS TIMELINE IS WILD
Imagine where music AI will be in 6 months from release of this video, let alone in 2 years. In 5 years, AI will write AI tools to make funny cat videos.
Hello good sir, could I use the lyrics you generated in "an AI girl who broke my heart"? It was very nice. Great video by the way, always very informative, can't wait for more developments in AI
I think the only thing this has over Suno is the quiality of audio and voice.(mastering) They both do a great job when auto generating crap. But when you put in your own lyrics and want to put in your rythym Udio starts to suffer. Suno does much better because of the [meta data tags]. At least for now that is the way I percieve it.
Yes, that's great. Today we musicians will be unemployed, tomorrow the actors and the film industry will be unemployed. Then it's time for all the other jobs. The factory halls will only be occupied by robots. Everyone has plenty of time to generate AI films and AI music. Hopefully the governments have a plan for when we all stop working.
government sure as hell have a plan for a common folk, ai generates music and films, writes texts, does creative promotion(smm etc.), makes games, paints and operates administrative jobs, writes programming code, works in medicine and so on. You will be slaving on construction or any other else physical labour position(street sweeper, sweatshops, oil rigs, road maintenance, factory job). Because building actual machine costs way too much, just hire 10 humans and it will be cheaper, like china and india does. Welcome to capitalism.
i personally like suno more than udio, its more user friendly and can create full song within 1 generate, while udio only create 30s seconds on the first generate that you must extend to hear the most or full song. Yes udio has better vocal and has more free generate but i find its harder to follow simple prompt, while suno can follow simple prompt better even extend with empty prompt and the result most of the times are within my expectations.
