I know this is a little thing, but I really love how they summon their personas, especially with that camera angle. It’s got more oomph than when you’re controlling the whole party.
@@Inconziiwhen you control them the camera doesn't zoom in on them and the animation is faster since they summon their persona while still in the menu when you control them
Other games: player has a plan and the AI fucks it up Persona games: the AI has a plan, and the player fucks it up I learned this in P3, the AI in persona games are surprisingly pretty smart
I actually tried to do an AI challenge run and it was going well until. (The worst boss in the game) then the AI just started having a crisis. Thus killing the run lol
@@keithjohnson3277 I actually have yet to use myriad truths actually. I usually avoid dlc. I honestly should have though.... while also nuking my party ai in the process... 🙃
I played that fight on hard for the first time and the strat I used was using attacking items to build baton pass for Haru's turn so she could absolutely microwave the robots but I don't imagine that strat is on the AI's radar
As someone going through the ai only challenge, did you have issues with the Madarame fight? My team just refused to use elements on the right guys until like halfway into the fight.
Someone finally get this. I love if AI doing the things rather than just manual. However it actually works better on Royal instead of Regular one. Also, please add more AI Command selection rather than just very basic one. I think in Royal, I did most of the fight with AI to see what's their planning.
@@MtlPlyr At first I thought the AI got worse in P4, because the commands weren't very specific, then I realized that the AI just got more advanced. I get burned out way less in P4G with the AI on. In fact, earlier I found myself saying "Nice one Chie!" In sync with Rise when Chie found the enemy's weakness. With AI off, Rise gets a bit annoying, but when it's on, it just hypes you up and immerses you because you feel the same as her.
Yep agree! Loved them since I played P3F (My first game in the series! I only played P1-2 Duology AFTER P4) and frankly while I LIKED being able to give my teammates commands! I never really GOT the "Mitsuru uses Marin Karin" as she NEVER really used that Skill unless it was OBVIOUS it would work! I was consistent with how I set the AI to function each round before making Minato (P3Protag) act. It made the game feel SPECIAL compared to other RPG I was playing at the time (I only played ORIGINAL Final Fantasy 12 AFTER Persona 4. So I was NEW to the whole "Setting AI Commands to character's I'm not using) as I had to be PAYING ATTENTION! And I really found NO character useless (Well maybe Ken and Kuromaru, but that's mostly because Light and Dark were TOO "Instant Kill" reliant and Kuromaru did better because he had MORE then just Dark Spells! Happy to see the ATTACK variants introduced in P5 remaining in the series as it makes that Spell Element MORE useful then Instant Death) and beat Nyx using EVERYONE (In my 8 runs of the game). P4 and P5 I ran them first time using Direct Control! And then AI control on everyone but Yu/Joker and I felt the MAGIC of P3 come back to me again! Really I only play the normal exploration on Normal and MAX OUT Difficulty when I go up against Mini-Bosses/MAIN BOSSES to make them challenging....and use DIRECT control during those! Though I DID do runs where the AI NEVER lost control of my allies. The fun is that if their fucking up, you only have yourself to blame more then the AI! (Especially since I've suffered Game Over's in the past! LARGELY from P5OG from "one bad run" like Kaneshiro Palace where I ran into an enemy that got the first turn on me, knocked Joker down, then Once MORE a FUCKING MUDO that killed me! Worst thing! I was RIGHT NEXT TO THE FIRST SAFE ROOM! I just refused to go in, getting arrogant for some EXP before saving and had to start that ENTIRE SEQUENCE ALL OVER AGAIN FROM SCRATCH to get back there! Made me MORE paranoid about saving EVERY CHANCE I GOT! Well that's MEGATEN BABY! Where one wrong move and.....well..... "You can only watch in horror and HOPE you saved close to the part the HORROR IS HAPPENING!!") By the way, are you going to play P3Roload completely on AI? (Seriously might hold back for a second run of the game, but I might do it on first run for "ole time sake" and to see if they set the AI right for that one)
@@paulman34340I will not be playing Reload on Ai because the Ai hasn't been as in-depth since P3F. I'm running through OGP5 again, and something I've never realized is that you can turn it into a really good stealth game. The most important thing is to never fast-travel. As soon as you enter a palace, you have to find your way back to your safe room via the shortcuts you've unlocked. My favorite part is when you progress as far as you can go and barely have any SP left, because then you have to try and escape the palace with this extremely tense atmosphere, because if you get caught you'll likely die. It's a huge relief everytime time you get back to a safe room. Persona 5 actually has a lot of hidden details I never noticed before. It has the most substance and style of the entire Hashino trilogy by far. it's actually insane how much is in the base game. Something I love doing is just walking around the city and looking at all the details. The various shops around Yongen-Jaya or Shibuya, back alleys, things people left out on the street, a designated smoking area, etc. I never ever fast-travel in these games as it feels more immersive that way. I really like that you can manually walk the entire city, rather than just pick an area like in Persona 3 and 4. I really hope Reload takes after that. Honestly, exploring Tokyo in Persona 5 may even be more fun than exploring it in Shin Megami Tensei IV. I've spent 15 hours in my current playthrough after 6 years of not playing and I haven't even gotten through April yet. It's actually like a second life. It's amazing how detailed everything is. P5 is oozing with substance and character. It feels like Final Fantasy VII, where it is highly rated without the general populace understanding the deeper reasons why it is so good, and only the surface level reasons like having a good story, being stylish and fast, having smart design, etc. I keep getting off-topic but I forgot how fun it is playing these games without worrying about maxing out social links or social stats. It's your life and you choose who you want to spend time with. You choose what you spend your time on. You're not expected to max out all your social stats, each playthrough is supposed to be different, meeting different people, doing different things. P5 exemplifies this more than P3 or P4 ever did with it's vast range of side-content. I love every Persona game, of course. Going into P5, I was poisoned into believing it was more shallow than I remember and in turn it's one of the deepest games ATLUS has ever made. I still prefer Shin Megami Tensei III and IV by a good margin, but those games are an extremely high bar. When Reload comes out, I implore you to take your time, as your first run is the most important. Try not to fast travel and just live. There's only so many calendar Persona games.
I’m here for Haru who I romanced yesterday also I have use free style teammates from beginning to now (this palace ironically) and sometimes I’m the one screwing the plan 😅😂
I'm guessing if they Baton Pass to you, just hit a weakness and pass it to a teammate, or until you get hold up. Seems to be a safe rule of thumb for most situations.
Having finally gotten a chance to play Persona 4 with the fairly rerelease of P4G, I can now appreciate the callback in Magatsu Izanagi's curse attack, Magatsu Mandala (I will not say more for those who have not had a chance to go through P4 yet).
I actually really want to play the game with Ai but its actually so good that most of the time i dont even get a single turn in battle and it becomes boring 😅
Meanwhile, me going through P5R with AI teammates for the first time (mini challenge run; AI act freely, no fusions) "Morgana ffs if you tell me to guard do it yourself too" (heavenly punisher miniboss tutorial) "Ann please ffs cast tarunda on Kamoshida instead of attacking or healing only" "Ryuji please, Tarukaja ONCE" I ended up being forced to be the support unit while the AI went ham on Kamoshida lol, cant wait for the Madarame and other boss struggles.
That was pretty impressive, I didn't know they could be quite competent AI (well almost my favorite girl suffered some brain damage from that Maziodyne and near to the end almost died).
I’m afraid to use AI even though the reasons make no sense like Attacking using SP moves or HP moves even though I can have them preserve either by not using Act Freely or Killing a shadow I wanna make my Persona even though there’s plenty in the palace (I keep going for a Gotta Catch ‘Em All mindset and panic if I can’t get them the first time). I have had an AI basically get us killed before so that one test to see how they work on their own ended with all four of us dead. Guess I’m just an anxious person.
I find the game more fun when I get to play it and strategize around all four characters rather than letting the AI have 3/4s of my turns. I still enjoy persona even when the AI is forced on (FES was my first game) but knowing that I'm getting the buff I want and knowing the AI isn't going to use wind break in an attempt to support the party is nice.
I used that ai for a big part of kamuras palace though after I died to him on my first try i I put them on follow orders Up until that point they were very good
That coat joker wears? I believe it's one of the outfits you can get from your room from the shelf with boxes. It actually appears outside palaces and mementos on joker in p5 royal exclusive part of the game that starts after you finish the main original p5 part and your playthrough satisfies certain conditions
