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AIKIDO | KOICHI TOHEI's "DISAPPEARING" IRIMI NAGE

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Tony Schaufelberger once more talks about the importance of good posture and body mechanics to improve martial effectiveness, this time using Koichi Tohei's infamous "disappearing iriminage" as an example. If you enjoyed this video, please hit the LIKE button as it helps RU-vid recommend us in searches, thank you and PLEASE SUBSCRIBE! / @aikidosilverdale
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@mooyingmantis 3 года назад

In 1989 I met at karate Nidan who requested to spar with me. I immediately did this technique on him. He was amazed. The fight hadn't lasted five seconds before he was thrown to the ground. The next week he and his son became my students.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

indeed, anything can work in the appropriate situation.

@AikiTom76 3 года назад

thank you for this enlightment, I only learn from koichi tohei video without naration, now I understand the meaning of this exercise

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

Hope it helps

@dunkenFrancis 3 года назад

A massive shout out to Tony once more for sharing his take on the world with us - always adds something to the mix!

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

100%

@davidhilston3643 3 года назад

My teacher discourages any up/down movement when doing techniques. However, when I am doing techniques as tori and my uke does not come around to face me when I enter and cut down then I often end up going to the other side of uke like the "Tohei" type irimi-nage. I personally feel like the Tohei irimi-nage uses more of a pulling effect at the end of the technique, which is not the best. I prefer to use the tenkan effect along with the connection of the arms of uke and tori. Great video!

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

You should use whatever you feel is appropriate to the situation

@CarlaCasteneda Год назад

what an interesting concept, opens up a real can of worms regarding what is "correct" form too, which is also interesting!

@BoomBoomDeluxe 3 года назад

Never seen that big jumping iriminage before, so cool!

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

Looks fun huh!?

@nikosskeptikos6295 2 года назад

the big jump irimi! love this

@rickdangerfield1183 3 года назад

First time I've watch one of your videos and taken notes! :) ta for posting! Really interesting stuff

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

You should re-watch them all and take more notes :)

@paddyhinton9665 3 года назад

I started tai chi at 46, my instructor brought me into ki aikido at 49, he then retired ( still my tai chi instructor) . Swapped schools,new sensei, started again, achieve my orange belt last year and I've managed to train my rolls, solo drills, learnt the forms of 9 and 31 jo katas on weekly basis since we locked down here in the UK in march. I've started to struggle with it all now we are in winter as I need to train indoors. I keep hitting the piano ouch. Your videos are fantastic and given me much needed interest yo51 train so when we get back to partner training I'm going to be So centred they will be challenged. Thanks and keep them coming. I am trying for a black before I'm 60.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

Good on ya! With rolling it's all about finding a shape with no corners that works for you body, and ensuring you have enough push or momentum to get you back on your feet and defer the force of gravity! :) good luck

@paddyhinton9665 3 года назад

Finding shape and avoiding the piano. Going to try the systema getting up and lying down tonight.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

@@paddyhinton9665 Cool - it's looks simple but to make it smooth and coordinate the breathing is actually quite hard to do.

@paddyhinton9665 3 года назад

I'll let you know how I do.

@paddyhinton9665 3 года назад

@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE the breathing is difficult. Do you try to breathe out in one breath as you go from standing to point of lowest energy ( i tried different finishing points) ? Its going to take some practice.

@RetrogasmicPodcast 2 года назад

fascinating

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 2 года назад

Interesting session

@abimullett7326 Год назад

Thats so interesting!

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

Watch the full AIKIDO SILVERDALE PLAYLIST ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3lNflHbvHb8.html

@Clarity2020Australia 3 года назад

Tony's clips are always great but also make my head hurt as it ads in so many things to consider during waza lol

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

Glad it got you thinking!

@gregorious123 3 года назад

another interesting disappearing iriminage was Noro sensei's 'flying iriminage' seen in this video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dd19h_vkQPo.html

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

Yes, a lot of that era senior guys did the big jumping entrance. Funnily enough, Noro was one of my senseis (H W FOSTER) sensei, came to our dojo thee hut in the very early 60s

@gregorious123 3 года назад

@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE nice, i think he was called the White Tornado or something like that? Interesting to see he created Kinomichi which was very different from the old 60s stuff i'm sure his students from back then would agree.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

@@gregorious123 He was always very flowing, and I think preferred to explore his own path, when he returned to France he mainly wore all white and his "variation" of Aikido became yet another thing for people to argue about lol

@gregorious123 3 года назад

@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE aikido in the 60s was spoilt for choice. So many great senseis back then.

@colins1435 3 года назад

Remember Mr Foster teaching this one years ago.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

Yes! And Ronnie too. Technically I think you can call this "ushiro-nage" due to the hand positions, but names are largely irrelevant tbh. Hope you are well big man!?

@hattorihanzo3688 3 года назад

Dynamic movement mixed with considered structure.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

Indeed!

@BoyG10 3 года назад

Anybody knew why was Master Tohei always sitting or seemingly wheelchair bound years prior to his passing in 2011? Nothing ever was mentioned about that. I’m rather amused coz he was such a robust sensei with his Ki mastery. O’sensei was often seen standing doing techniques right up to his prime but not Master Tohei. Hope someone could share here.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

He was old and got sick, as many of us do. What's your point?

@BoyG10 3 года назад

@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE No doubt as many of us do, he was old and got sick. So what’s your point then?

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

@@BoyG10 None of us here understand your original question.

@BoyG10 3 года назад

@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE Now that sounded clearer. Let me rephrase. “Master Tohei was often seen immobile, seated from the all those late photos of him taken. I’m curious if he had some major operations done to his legs due to accidental mishaps or natural ailments. I would not discount the fact old age was a contributing factor as most elderly did, that even a frail Ueshiba sensei was seen standing performing techniques up to his death but not Tohei sensei.” By the way, are you from Ki society and has close affiliation with them? If not, it’s alright. I just need someone who knew them and could relate and share. Thanks.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

@@BoyG10 No contact with the Ki society. Not even really a believer in it as a concept really, but have huge respect for Tohei as he was a great martial artist, not just aikido but a decent Judoka too. He suffered a terrible bout of pleurisy as a child which no doubt left his respiratory system weakened, so I suspect that is what caused his disability in later years. His death was reported as due to "inflammation of the lungs" so likely pneumonia or similar. With regards to O sensei still practising in his later years, you are mistaken. He died of liver cancer which left him very frail for a long period of time.

@igorman2005_2 3 года назад

Aikido techniques reference: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DGpJsbHqKKQ.html

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 2 года назад

But thats the "wait until he stands up" version... it's too cooperative.

@moehoward8691 3 года назад

Without athletic ability and speed, you won't make this work against a real attacker.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

Did you actually watch the video?? Know, the part in the intro when I say "this is more a demonstration of principles than a demonstration of the technique"?

@gregorious123 3 года назад

misses the point entirely. Iriminage like this is a reactionary movement where nage enters into the attackers space after they have initiated the attack. In ki aikido there is a principle of put yourself in your partners place, in other words swap places or get behind the attacker. A calm mind can actually react quicker than a speedy attacker. That takes years of cultivation though. But that's the goal of shin shin toitsu 心身統一合気道. To unite mind and body. Only then do you see the relativity of attackers speed.

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

@@gregorious123 This video wasnt really about the iriminage, it was just used as a way to demonstrate the biomechanical principles Tony was talking about.

@gregorious123 3 года назад

@@AIKIDOSILVERDALE i was replying to J C comment

@AIKIDOSILVERDALE 3 года назад

@@gregorious123 Understood