AIO Cooler vs Custom Watercooling... The Ultimate Guide

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@soapa4279 3 года назад

The thing people need to realize, is that AIOs are supposed to be simpler for a reason. They work fine, are cheaper, and are great for most people. But full custom loops are on another level, and a lot of PC enthusiasts enjoy building them. It’s like why people customize cars, sometimes “just because.”

@TaxEvasionUS 3 года назад

I am a PC enthusiast but I still think custom water cooling is stupid.

@rotor13 3 года назад

@@TaxEvasionUS When I can overclock my GPU to 2100Mhz and have its temps sit nice at 56c instead of maxing out at 1975Mhz at 80c on air with fans on full? Or my CPU clocked at 5.1Ghz and never seeing above 60c? Not all that stupid.

@spaghettiupseti9990 3 года назад

@@rotor13 and you get what, like 5 more frames?

@TaxEvasionUS 3 года назад

@@rotor13 If you really think about it, GPUs are designed to max at 80c so its not a big deal, and you're still using the same amount of power, if not, more custom looping a GPU. All GPUs can only be pushed so much until they hit the max overclock potential they have. Having 10c less isn't going to increase your performance or save your GPU by much in terms of lifespan. It will still most likely die 2 years later than the air cooled GPU, but by then, you'd most likely have a new GPU. It's still stupid.

@Amonicuss 3 года назад

@@TaxEvasionUS except it's not only 10 degrees. Most of the time is in excess of 30 40, my friends loop sits at 29° idle and 45 46 under load, cpu sits at 50ish if not lower and gpu at 44 or smth. Noise is another factor. Also in terms is performance, you are just incorrect. Because of his custom loop, he can run his 5900x manual oc at 4.7 all core all day long, and i can only do 4.55 or 4.6 before thermal shutdown.

@SmoKeYJoE024 3 года назад

My AIO has lasted 6 years and still going strong. Never had to replace it to date. Liquid cooling with very little maintenance and good longevity.

@raijinmadapaka 3 года назад

What AIO are you using mate?

@dalek.6171 3 года назад

@@raijinmadapaka I have an H110i corsair that's been going that long. on every day.

@SmoKeYJoE024 3 года назад

@@raijinmadapaka It's a Cooler Master, Seidon 120 XL Closed Loop cooler. Purchased and installed at Fry's Electronics on 10/15/2014. Had to find the receipts to get the info. Only thing I ever did was give it a shake and remount it so the drain ports were on the bottom instead of top. I am a firm believer in bottom mounted liquid ports. When it was top mounted, I don't think the liquid was flowing and one day I had given it a slight shake and heard a sizzle. This led me to believe the water wasn't getting to the block properly. Since remounting with the ports on the bottom, I've never had an issue other rhan cleaning dust.

@resengan123 3 года назад

the aio from my first custom pc (cyberpower) is still going and its been 9 years. gave the build to a younger family member and told him, "idk when its going to stop working but let me know if your pc randomly shuts off"

@user-jb1rl7kh7j 3 года назад

Lets hope that with this comment you didnt jinx it

@Cyclonicks 3 года назад

I did my first watercooling loop on my pentium 4 back in the day, had a gpu block too. I used Engine Ice as a coolant. I've never stopped doing custom loops after that. Custom loops is love, custom loops is life.

@nickh5937 2 года назад

Engine Ice FTW!!! Use it in my nitrous car, KFX 700 quad, and PC.

@Lil_Lowered_TDI 2 года назад

@@nickh5937 same I use it on my pc, modded out F7, and used it on the banshee I used to have lol!

@erik120719 2 года назад

I just won (eBay bids) a full coverage block for my old gtx 1080, I wanna build a custom loop with rigid tube ( I'm a mechanic and LOVE doing custom brake lines bc I'm good at em) but don't know if it's even worth cooling this card AND the 3700x or just the GPU. I don't game alot and use afterburner to let it make its own OC curve and I have the cpu set to stay at boost speed (4.23ghz). I run my rig maybe 6hrs a week, but man a rigid tubed loop loos so cool I just want one! thinking 2 360mm rads would be more than enuff and fill out the case I intend to buy

@blinkybillski Год назад

@@nickh5937 What's that like a US branded auto rad coolant? Cause I'm wondering if that would work. Plus plenty of cool colours to choose from these days.

@kaezproductions3977 Год назад

You can use car coolant? I mean it makes sense...any things you should avoid when doing this?

@mattgilmore8396 3 года назад

I'm currently running an open loop system. Have been through a few open loops builds and even though the process can be stressful, constructing the loop is just so much fun and rewarding. I usually say I wont do hard tubing again, but somehow always find myself bending those tubes lol.

@patrickcarrillo714 3 года назад

As someone who's been doing water cooling for about 5 years from a practicality standpoint and from a realistic standpoint the only reason people should ever "CUSTOM" water cool is to add a video card because video cards are completely different animals under water compared to air but CPU wise a basic custom loop and a standard AIO are spitting distance in performance So for practicality most people if they were going to do custom water cooling is to add A video card This is all my opinion btw

@unknown14191 3 года назад

Hmm, in my case I went for a basic waterloop of pump/res + radiator and CPU waterblock, got about 10 - 15C of improvements from artic LF2. I live in tropical area where ambient range from 27 - 34C throughout the whole year.

@karaloop9544 3 года назад

Please tell me were to find a Threadripper compatible AIO and I might even consider it. :)

@shippy1001 3 года назад

This guy is telling the truth, its is all about your GPU, if it`s just the CPU, just go for an AIO, if you are doing CPU + GPU combo, a custom loop is the way to go.

@karaloop9544 3 года назад

@@fer662 Do you mean the IceGiant ProSiphon thingy? It actually might be, I put my system together April last year - it has just been announced then and was not yet available for purchase. It wasn't even clear if it will become a product or just die a prototypes death. Did my first custom loop because the air towers weren't cutting it. Happy ever since. :) But yeah, when you try it for the first time it sure is a hassle. Glad I did it tough, it is oddly satisfying when you're finally done and everything runs smoothly.

@colinjava8447 3 года назад

I think a custom loop for CPU is a bit of a waste, for a bit more money you can cool your gpu as well. Maybe a simple affordable cpu loop would be ok if you have to only cool your cpu.

@hazelf6264 3 года назад

The research behind it is the best part imo. Having my budget and spending months trying to decide what is best is so so exciting for me. Currently planning my first build (going for black and gold colour scheme in the phanteks enthoo pro 2) and this series couldn't have come at a better time. Thanks Jay!

@brianfox340 2 года назад

I feel this. I don't need to water cool for any real reason (I have great coolers on my CPU and GPU), but now that my first build is done I'm out of things to research and obsess over, which might be the reason I do water cooling anyway, haha.

@Nabbucadnessar 3 года назад

Jay: If you guys wanna... Me: YES!

@sijonda 3 года назад

It's like comparing someone who just wants to get from A to B with their car and will leave it at a dealership for anything that goes wrong vs someone who will take their time to fix whatever goes wrong themselves and has a preference to improve their car to suit their needs/wants.

@bepbep7418 3 года назад

Yup just like a custom vehicle, a custom PC isn't cheap.

@sijonda 3 года назад

@@bepbep7418 Another comparison. Just like a car you can buy older hardware and modify (overclock for computers) so it performs just as well as the current generation in some cases for less money. Higher over clocking requires more work to keep the hardware cool which increases the cost. You end up balancing cost vs result by doing this.

@BSGNZ 3 года назад

I still love the Amd gun case they sent out to Content creators.

@freighter1097 3 года назад

You mean the cheap knockoff of a Pelican case that can hold anything, not just a gun?

@shanedoesyoutube8001 3 года назад

I'm sorry what the fuk did you say???

@BSGNZ 3 года назад

@@shanedoesyoutube8001 AMD sent out a 'gun case' filled with all the colour co ordinated parts to water cool a rig to match their new graphics cards - red/black and silver components. many creators showed them on their channels, including Jay. It was awesome seeing everything in one package.

@shanedoesyoutube8001 3 года назад

@@BSGNZ are they trying to one up Asus who made a luggage for the first two ROG phone ecosystem???

@kirder5152 Год назад

Just ordered my first ever AiO for my soon to arrive 7800x3d, and videos like this have been a huge help to understand the different cooling techs. My Noctua NH-D15 have served me well over this half a decade, but now I wanna try and go cooler and quieter. Thank you for your videos over the years Jayz and team.

@chrisjackson9031 3 года назад

I built my first custom loop build in 2019 after watching several JTC videos to understand what to look for and how to do it. I used an Alphacool kit that fit just the CPU and included a 120 rad. I expanded it about 6 months later to include the GPU and added a second, 240 rad. It was a lot of fun and I learned a lot. It can get expensive, but I think it was worth it. Thanks Jay and crew.

@MethiasZa 3 года назад

These videos are dangerous. Every time Jay does anything watercooled or custom case builds makes me more and more convinced that I need to do a custom water cooling setup. I guess its time to start researching an seeing what stuff I can get locally (if at all) or do a scary massive shop and import everything in one go

@andreibriceag3899 3 года назад

4:36 It's either mmHg (millimeters of mercury column) or cmH2O (centimeters of water column). Both are used for measuring pressure.

@ProfessionalProfessorPat 3 года назад

The generic term is "head" specifically (e.g. pressure head). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_head#%22Head%22_in_fluid_dynamics

@kendil22 3 года назад

full open loop, it was my covid project. Came out pretty good, especially for a first attempt. I used acrylic instead of pteg and didn't find it too hard to work with.

@drepedekristne 3 года назад

I've been running a full EKWB open loop for a couple of years now and I love it. It's my first time water cooling so I used the EK configurator and it made it really easy to verify comparability of components.

@boyd1418 3 года назад

Fun fact: A good cheap source for cooler fluid is your local car detailer. Almost all shops should have a r/o or d/I filter system which will give out nice contaminate free water

@ConeJellos 3 года назад

Or you know, distilled water at the store.

@matasa7463 3 года назад

@@ConeJellos Yes, but hey, it's free shit!

@boyd1418 3 года назад

@@ConeJellos tested store bought water a few times and have seen readings as high as 0.12ppm. even my window cleaning gear can get cleaner water than that

@revnto7k 3 года назад

Eventually I'd like to do a custom loop but I have been loving my Liquid Freezer II so much, it performs amazingly well on my Ryzen 7 and noise levels are fantastic as well. No reason to switch other than "because I can"

@shurchil69 3 года назад

Jay: *Posts this video* Me who is still in aircooling: "You guys have watercooling?"

@brovid-19 3 года назад

The only thing I hate about aio is the tubes hanging like flaccid dicks in open air. Looks doofy. If you're gonna water cool, do hard line tubing. It works better, looks better and you flex harder

@wr81mon 3 года назад

Thank you so much for putting this together. I used a lot of insight from your channel to start my first build last December. I have been considering starting on a custom loop in my case but I’m a little worried about it being too cramped. I’ll have to come back to this once I get over it haha

@needsomewater 3 года назад

DUDE THATS CRAZYYY I was legit wondering this for the whole day whether I should custom loop or AIO and which is better!! Wow

@Shard113 3 года назад

Thanks Jay for this one. The new Corsair coolers look interesting, I wonder how these giant AIOs compare to more mainstream sizes (i.e. are there deminishing returns on thermal capacity and then how does that compare to the price and the added price off accommodating them). Wouldn't mind seeing a vid of that comparison.

@skibinskibuilt 3 года назад

When you think there’s nothing left to watch in your subs, this man comes in clutch with a late night upload 👌🏽

@waveformdistortion 3 года назад

I've had a (mostly) fantastic experience with my open loops. For the most part they were maintenance free. I still drained them, took apart the blocks to clean them, and reassembled with fresh fluid every two years as a precaution, but the fluid has always looked like I could pour it back in and keep using it, the blocks have been pretty clean inside, and there was no problems with rising temperatures or noise. The only exception to that has been my current system, which started as a CPU only loop. I decided to add a GPU block about 6 months after building it, and when I drained it there was a white waxy/soapy residue on the inside of all the tubes. It was probably a mistake I made while cleaning the old parts that I reused, but it still turned what should have been a fairly quick job into a more drawn out ordeal where I had to thoroughly clean EVERYTHING and buy new fluid.

@1s.e.c.racing304 3 года назад

You always know just the info I am looking for. Planning my first water cooled pc and diving in deep with custom hard line loop. Great work

@speelydan 3 года назад

11:51 - "Correct me if I'm wrong" - Deepcool has had a white version of their Captain AIO for a few years now.

@Julianw. 3 года назад

Lian lingalahad too

@MrSameerMalik1 3 года назад

@@Julianw. phanteks glacier comes in white

@TopRacer2002 2 года назад

ROG do an AIO in white as well.

@thomasplummer8103 3 года назад

Honestly, Never having water-cooled before, I think I will go with an AIO when I build my next PC, but with an eye to eventually replacing it with an open loop.

@samvega827 3 года назад

I water cooled my CPU with AIO on my first build and the performance gains are crazy I got mine lightly OCd at 4.4ghz and it rarely goes above 50c even under load. I haven't had longevity experience but i absolutely recommend lol

@homestar2112 3 года назад

Go for it man, I got an AIO about a year ago and I'm happy with the performance!

@BenK12345 3 года назад

I was kind anti-water cooling for a long time.. but got an AIO for my 9900k and definitely not going back now. back in the day, the all-in-one kits really sucked and custom loops sort of consumed your life.. modern AIO's are set and forget.. so nice

@drunkhusband6257 3 года назад

@@samvega827 What shitty cpu only hits 50c under load?

@samvega827 3 года назад

@@drunkhusband6257 More than you can afford pal Ferrari.

@drcylon 2 года назад

Excellent presentation and breakdown, really love how you present all of your materials with all the details and effort you put there out of your passion, thank you.

@shadopadla3671 3 года назад

Open Loop that's been rock solid for 4+ years, first self built system since HS, first water cooled build, and I have this channel's tutorials and information to thank for it!

@bernddasbrot2266 3 года назад

Custom loop is much more expensive but you're gonna be proud when it's done. I went with EK ZMT and sleeved them (My first open loop so hardline was too much). It looks so clean! (You can only see 4 tubes at 2-10cm each). I also put a 140mm (corsair because of the low width to make it fit) in the back and a 360mm (crossflow to be able to directly hook it up to the 140) on top of my Meshify S2, which isn't possible according to Fractal. It was a unique feeling of success when the loop was finished because of the challenge it was and the the fact that nobody else has a loop like it! The loop is now almost 2Y old and I still haven't had time to post a build log :-(

@blindsay 3 года назад

Idea for a follow up video, Take a few common components like a high end gpu and high end cpu and then do temp testing with various radiator sizes to see how much radiator is really needed. I remember back in the day the old rule of thumb was 1x 120mm per component but that doesnt really hold up anymore. So like do a 3080 on a 120mm, then 240mm, then 360mm and could even do it on various thickness rads and then maybe a half speed and full speed test on the fan being used

@PhoeniXfromNL 3 года назад

sure would love to see the new skunkworks build, thanks to finding this channel I build my 1st hardtubing loop last christmas holiday and am really happy how it worked out ^^

@sumikomei 3 года назад

I have an open loop for my cpu and video card, and my experience has been fantastic. As long as you take the time to properly test for leaks and make sure nothing is under undue strain from slightly incorrect measurements, and as long as your parts are reputable and you take care of them, there's really nothing to worry about. My only mishap was that my Alphacool reservoir had an acrylic plug (for sticking a bare LED in it for lighting) that was cracked, and I didn't realize it until I saw some small water drop pools below the reservoir, but that was an easy fix and I noticed it because my leak test paper towels caught it and showed the leak to me.

@danielcobia7818 3 года назад

My only hangup on doing water-cooling has been the cost. I don't know if you've done one, but I think this might be a good time to talk about cost and what water-cooling things are worth putting money into.

@bdbeckstrand Год назад

It is worth it if you like to build it. The price/performance isn't going to change your experience much, unless you want maximum overclocking and heat control. I bought quality parts and spent about $600 on my loop with an EVGA Hydro Copper graphics card. Not everyone can afford it.

@fuckugplus 7 месяцев назад

I mean the most expensive are the pump and pump casing and radiator . Fitting and tubes are dirt cheap

@fuckugplus 7 месяцев назад

300 to 400$ would be a pretty decent kit i have a 1000$ one but its due to having a Y in it to connect a peltier chiller , i also have 2 pumps for redundancy and be able to push gunk no mater what.

@danielcobia7818 7 месяцев назад

@@fuckugplus A water block alone can be more than most air coolers. I have eyeballed a couple of kits that were $300 but never pulled the trigger. The sad thing is every time I start getting cash together to play with the idea (was going to add in a water chiller) I get nailed financially with something.

@BuzzKiller23 3 года назад

I have an open loop and it's a love/hate relationship. When it's together and everything is working I absolutely love it! It's cool, it's quiet, and it's powerful. What I don't like is not being able to change things around without spending a whole day draining and refilling everything. Right now I want to change some fans from intake to exhaust to see how it would affect performance, but I would have to tear down the loop to do so.

@NocturnalJin 3 года назад

Good insight. Thanks from a noob!

@danielredziniak2996 3 года назад

Doesn’t take all day to drain it😂

@maximus7651000 3 года назад

@@NocturnalJin Some custom builds are like that. I don't have to do a tear down on my large case that has soft tubing which makes it easier to do something like swapping fans and whatnot. Some of my small builds with hard tubing require draining though due to compact size and the tubing not being flexible. PC water cooling has come a very long way though considering 20+ years ago I was using automotive heater cores and industrial pumps.

@unknown14191 3 года назад

If you are ok with using soft tubing on your loops instead of hard tubings like PETG, the setup times and teardown times can be shortened significantly. Using clear coolant also allows easier flushing and cleaning for the loops if there is no corrosion. Depending on how you do the loop, you might get away without tearing down the whole loop for some component change. The fact that AIO is easier to deal with than custom loops is true, and will always be. For my case, custom loop is better than AIO in terms of cooling performance, about 10 - 15C difference.

@NocturnalJin 3 года назад

@@maximus7651000 Yes! I was thinking the same thing: soft tubing. Was probably going to do that anyway since it's my first loop. Thanks for the tip!

@colinchevrier2860 3 года назад

I am getting impatient to get my build up and running and just this morning I was toying with the idea of using an AIO until I can get the parts for my custom build. After watching the video I am even more firmly in the camp of a custom loop and will stay the course. Thanks Jay!

@lgf30022 3 года назад

Good overview, I needed this. Still on the fence about which way to go but at least I have an idea about how to assess each approach. Thanks Jay!

@BlackyK 3 года назад

I've had the same water cooling loop (more or less) for almost 15 years, STILL using the original ThermalTake pump that people had die on them after a year of use. Just been changing blocks as I've upgraded. I finally changed the tubing last year and added another 5.25 slot reservoir for kicks, all in a Chieftec Dragon case that's coming up to 20 years old!

@pev_ 3 года назад

I got a ThermalTake Bigwater 745 water cooling set about 15 years ago. I used the pump and reservoir until about 2012 when the pump developed a crack in the input side and started leaking. I then got a Phobya DC12-400 pump which fits the Thermaltake reservoir nicely (it's a rigid connection with a special metal fitting that is screwed into the input of the pump). I still have that combo in use in my current DIY hardwood airtight case with a Watercool MO-RA3 radiator on the outside to dump all heat from the PC. I still have the two radiators (120 and 240) from the Thermaltake kit but not using them anymore because they are horribly restrictive in both the water and air paths.

@drunkhusband6257 3 года назад

cooling loops weren't even a thing 10 years ago.....another liar on youtube

@pev_ 3 года назад

@@drunkhusband6257 I first tested liquid cooling in my PC in 2002. I used a submersible aquarium pump (with a 12 V/230 V relay from the PSU's 12 V line to operate the pump only when PC on). The reservoir I made from a household plastic container, the CPU block I machined from aluminum stock. The rad was a spiral coil of copper tube. The liquid was a non-conductive clear oil distillate that I got from a friend who worked at Neste. Plus cheap barb fittings and PVC tube. Worked well.

@BlackyK 3 года назад

@@drunkhusband6257 LOL that's where you're wrong bud.

@drunkhusband6257 3 года назад

@@BlackyK Unless you were making literally every pasrt from scratch, no custom loop parts ie reservoirs pumps, etc did not exist 10 years ago

@58rr 3 года назад

Love the way custom loops look but my anxiety just won't let me go down that path. Planning a system with baller air cooling for the peace of mind. Plus I like the look of chonky air coolers filling the space of a case (bars). Still hoping for a video giving us a rundown of the most reliable part manufacturers.

@noxious89123 3 года назад

You should check out the new LeakSheild from AquaComputer!

@chrislaurel1726 3 года назад

My second build is an open loop with a Lian Li Dynamic XL and distribution plate (of course). Lots of work but definitely a rewarding experience to have gotten it up and running.

@gkgaming6609 3 года назад

I have a open custom loop that was thanks to Jay for showing me how its done and i just got the kit from corsair with a handful of other fittings so i could have a drain valve

@rmiller0031 3 года назад

Rip danger den. Started thinking about my old setups when you were listing off companies.

@malphadour 3 года назад

Thats a blast from the past

@khristopherkomodoensis4734 3 года назад

So, in other words, the custom loop is truly custom in every way imaginable, but that can also be its biggest flaw depending on how you look at it.

@maxwellbaker3951 3 года назад

It’s like running a windows OS instead of Mac, with a Mac, there’s lots of protection and stuff, with windows it’s great bc you can do whatever, but that also means more things to fuck up

@rotor13 3 года назад

If you do your homework, its just as reliable as an AIO. If you don't do any research and go in blind... you're going to have a really bad experience. The only caveat with a custom loop is you do have to take it all apart at least once a year to clean the waterblocks and pump/res, flush and clean the radiators and replace with new tubes - because the coolant is going to turn eventually. It can last longer than a year, but after a year is when things like corrosion happens so its best to clean everything once a year and use new coolant. I don't touch my pc at all for that entire year. Every Christmas, it gets torn apart and drained. Everything cleaned of dust. New tubes and coolant, and a fresh Windows install and it works like a brand new PC again. Then again, I upgrade every 2 years

@ledoynier3694 3 года назад

@@rotor13 you don't have to take everything apart. only drain fill. .. unless you use opaque coolant, and then you only have yourself to blame for the mistake :)

@malphadour 3 года назад

@@rotor13 What??? Are you filling it with paint??? If you use the right coolant all you have to do is top it up occasionally and that's it. And you replace your tubes every year?? Are you using acid as a coolant?

@nomathic7672 2 года назад

@@maxwellbaker3951 I've never heard of Windows described that way lol. Windows, to me, is far from extensible to the point where users can mess up their system unless for some reason they're messing with the registry.

@poolplexer 3 года назад

Looks fantastic in 1440! So glad your production crew woke up and started putting vids out in higher rez!

@b9bot148 Год назад

I am glad you put this out. I just bought a pre-built with AIO. But was curious about liquid cooling vs AIO.

@cameronoleary3916 3 года назад

I wish that a custom water-cooling company would create a waterblock with an lcd screen. I'm planning to use the NZXT Kraken Z73 just because of the lcd waterblock

@francois.m 3 года назад

There's also the EK Nucleus range which has similar features.

@uptowngetsdown 3 года назад

Why tf do you need a lcd screen on a waterblock?

@lil.shaman6384 3 года назад

@@uptowngetsdown so I can get a dopamine boost everytime I look at the anime girl cooling down my cpu

@Alberos 3 года назад

I have that AIO in my system, just a heads up : being an LCD, the viewing angle is an issue, the color reproduction is quite bad with some issue in contrast and it also has white-tinted because of it being backlit. However you can still make it looks great by turning down the screen brightness in CAM and if you want to display a picture, you can do color correction and make your picture A LOT darker and A LOT more contrast to compensate. Displaying simple built-in temps reading is not a problem thou, it looks great. Either way, I also want this cooler just for screen too lol

@brianm.595 3 года назад

Linus reviewed a water cooling anti-leak system recently that had some sort of display related to the leak system if i recall correctly. I dont think the display was anything beyond a warning message or "ok"status message if I recall correctly.

@ZaneofAustin 3 года назад

17:01 woah never done a custom water loop but i never realized that there was so much diversity, or the need for such specific coolants

@Flamewolf2009 3 года назад

Black and Yellow are my favorite mix of colors so I'm super hyped to check out the skunkworks re-build!

@phillipramz8882 3 года назад

I dove right into Custom Loop when I switched over to water a few years ago, and never looked back. I say the cost is well worth it. Maintenance isn't too bad once you get a routine down. I do 1 complete disassemble/flush beginning of the year, and then a drain/flush in July. Even using pastel coolant, everything still stay's pretty clean.

@xtlm 3 года назад

I was really hoping he would talk about if there is any temp difference

@CoconutMigrating 3 года назад

That’s going to be completely dependent on the particular parts you are comparing. Not all AIOs are the same, not all the custom loops are the same. A custom loop can run cooler if you select the parts to have more overhead.

@Tyler.Morgan 3 года назад

99% of the time there will be no temperature difference (+/- a degree or two) between an AIO and an open loop for CPU cooling

@bojox3m2 3 года назад

if you got the same size of fan and same size of rads, the temps will be the same. custom open loops are better because you can go for multiple rad setups.

@T51B1 3 года назад

There is a difference

@rubencorbo5861 3 года назад

Hey Jay. How about a video on modding an AIO into a custom loop

@Meyoah 3 года назад

Think he already made that

@samglover3133 2 года назад

Problem with that, as he said, is the lack of pump power from AIOs

@andreasstrauss5194 2 года назад

@@samglover3133 alphacool has a pump wich fits into the aio loop so its possible

@johnthegamer2683 3 года назад

I always wondered the differences between AIO cooling and Water Cooling and Jay helped me figured it out by watching this video.

@Taterisstig 3 года назад

I can't wait to do a custom loop! Now that I am graduated and got a good teaching job, I'm definitely going to do it for my next build!

@lamboronald489 3 года назад

Another downside of open loop you didn't mention: WAAAAAAY more expensive.

@impreza0109 3 года назад

I mean, that should've been obvious

@Heinsha 3 года назад

he does though...

@bepbep7418 3 года назад

Imagine that... a Lamborghini is more expensive then a Prius.... who would've ever thought!

@drunkhusband6257 3 года назад

@@bepbep7418 Except wasting money on a custom loop won't barely get you anything, other a slight more overclocking room

@gregomeara3023 3 года назад

@@drunkhusband6257 yep purely cosmetic these days really

@benfowler2127 3 года назад

I’m curious how the specialized automotive coolants do in a loop long term

@Wingedmechanic 2 года назад

Not advisable. The actual 'vehicle' or heat transport medium in all coolants is distilled water. The rest are just additives for rust or corrosion inhibition, pump lubrication, antifreeze(ethylene glycol) to prevent that water from freezing and cracking the container open, and some dye. The difference in automotive coolant is that since they run through mostly metal cavities, rust or corrosion is a bigger concern than having particulates in it. Computer coolants on the other hand must be thin and devoid of particulates to ensure that the fine gaps in the fin stack on the cold plates are not clogged.

@benfowler2127 2 года назад

@@Wingedmechanic I hadn’t thought about the last part of that. Very true

@CinderByte 3 года назад

Great video. For my first open-loop system, i went with one of the EKWB kits (360). That took most of the headache out of matching reservoir/fittings/tubing. Also came with 1 bottle of the clear EK cooling. I expanded on it after a year & added in my video card (1080ti) with a Phanteks block (definitely check for metals to match). Worth recommending if you do another video (I'm sure Corsair & the others have starter kits too).

@Fellyman007 3 года назад

switched to open loop about 8 years ago , never looked back, touch wood haven't sprung a leak yet, great video Jay ,

@MrX-un8cz 3 года назад

Or can i hire jay to make my water-cooling loop

@MrYodi2007 3 года назад

Jay you must know I'm doing my first custom water-cooling loop...…lol! Putting it in a Corsair 1000D case! Im having to mod the GPU water block to fit a ASRock 6900xt.

@minigungaming5404 3 года назад

Gd luck my dude

@thezodiakturtleman 3 года назад

I fell in love with this channel after watching “bumblebee” Skunkworks videos. Got me into computers initially. Would love to have an old school build vlog of Skunkworks2021!

@NawwarAli 3 года назад

You are absolutely 100% right, I had aerocool AIO CPU cooler and due to water evaporation I think It killed my pump, for your skunk black and yellow build, you can use soft tubing but instead of leaving them lose you can use soft tubing plastic corners, to give them better look. As always love your videos love your channels love your humour and charming personality. Best of luck and stay safe.

@davishahn3101 3 года назад

"AIOs are not expandable" *Laughs in Alphacool Eisbaer 360 AIO*

@terminusaquo1980 3 года назад

Same with my Fractal Design Celsius x36 but as Jay states, the pump is the issue in an AIO.

@davishahn3101 3 года назад

@@terminusaquo1980 Thats why i like my Alphacool AIO, its completly silent on 100% Pump speed.

@MasterChief_S117 3 года назад

BUCKS IN 6!!!

@jnfgjgc1334 3 года назад

I'm running a open loop you inspired me to try it (also helped me thanks to your videos) its also my fist build and so far its been great been about 2 months since I put it together.

@MrVizickles 3 года назад

Rocking a 108 TI EVGA Hybrid cooler in my rig. Absolutely love it! Pairs with my 280mm EVGA CPU AIO perfectly

@kalonsamulonis5782 3 года назад

For me, open loop means more fluid. More fluid, more better to handle transient heat spikes. :)

@rotor13 3 года назад

@Eric E Who cares, if you can actually save your money up lol. Things like pump/res combo, fittings and radiator the vast majority of the cost of a custom loop and are parts that will last you a long ass time. CPU and GPU blocks are pricey, but when you upgrade you can sell them to make some money back to subsidize the cost of a new waterblock for your new parts The initial cost of entry into custom loops is expensive, yes. But it will also last you the longest. I still using the same radiator, pump/res combo, and fittings that I've had for 7 years. The only thing that changed is the CPU and GPU block.

@admin8244 3 года назад

@Eric E Poor.

@gridsquare 3 года назад

Rads are like Voltron... the more you hook up, the better it gets.

@littlejackalo5326 3 года назад

Vul(va)tron

@tedgreen1906 3 года назад

Looking forward to the 7000D loop build 😁👍 Thanks for the viewpoints!

@FIREMOONP 2 года назад

It Would be nice to see more comparisons in these kinds of videos regarding the differences between "gamming" and "creator" parts and builds. Thanks for great vids.

@JETWTF 3 года назад

Short version: If you want a functional water cooled PC get an AIO, the largest your case can fit preferably. If you want a showpiece and have money to burn do a custom loop.

@ledoynier3694 3 года назад

Well.. AIOs are marginally better than air.. and with an aircooled GPU in the case, they are completely useless if, like many, it's installed as exhaust as they will only serve to warm up the CPU more effectively :) If you want a functional PC, stick with air or use a front mounted AIO He also didn't touch too much on how silent custom loop is which is the main reason a lot of people do it, higher clocks being a side bonus.

@Jhakaro 3 года назад

@@ledoynier3694 Good AIOs are a fair bit better than air, often 6 to 8 degrees. It might not be a huge functional difference for most unless overclocking or already at thermal limits but even so. Also top mount is still the best for an aio most of the time even if cpu temps increase slightly.

@danbot666 3 года назад

The star wars build sat catching dust 😪 send it over Jay I'll make use of it 😁

@SpacedAug 3 года назад

What i love the most about Corsair's HydroX line is that hardwarelabs OEM's the radiators and Mayhems makes the fluids. Bitspower for the fittings... All things Canadians sometimes had issues getting access to without big duty charges from cross the border. Corsairs work bringing these parts to the masses made it a lot easier for some people to get access to high quality gear. Big up to corsair. I love DazMode just as much as any other Canadian water-cooling lover, but more access in more places is always lovely to see.

@boldbetrayerbatey6428 3 года назад

You the man jay. Watch loads of builders vids. Most are ok. But you take the time to go into everything. Great job. Hoping you keep up the great work you do,( as well as you guys in the back ground) 👍👍👍👍👍

@Tom5TomEntertainment 3 года назад

I just dump a gallon of water straight onto my motherboard.

@dalet8777 3 года назад

What kind of temps you getting?

@Tom5TomEntertainment 3 года назад

@@dalet8777 Right at room temp. It's like nothing is even on

@ChatBot1337 3 года назад

Im gonna water cool my i7 920. Yep, thats my desktop. 😁👌

@Sandmansa 3 года назад

I just put a custom loop on my old i7 930. My over 10 year old Corsair H100 just wasn't able to keep the temps in check like it use to. Darn thing still works though.

@spairus4492 3 года назад

I had mine up to last month, with a 212 it was running a bit too hot at 3.3Ghz. I dunno how people get it up to 4Ghz, but I suspect water cooling is a must

@Sandmansa 3 года назад

@@spairus4492 I'm still using mine actually. I have mine oc'ed to 3.4Ghz at 1.2 volts and the temps are around 40c idle and 65c max load. I have managed to reach a somewhat stable 4.2Ghz at 1.45 volts. But the temps were getting a bit to hot for comfort. I believe the trick is to keep your memory speeds as close as possible to the memory's rated speed. Otherwise, you would need to ramp your memory voltage up too.

@richmotz304 3 года назад

Glad to see, at least to us viewers, that Jay and the boys seem to be back to enjoying making content. Paul seemed like he was in the same funk as Jay and both seem to have gotten back to bringing us awesome content.

@tIhIngan 3 года назад

I have a custom-loop, and it has served me well. I went the water-cooling route because I have older hardware that doesn't allow for fan control under Linux, so water-cooling was the best way to get temps down. I enjoy the temperatures, I enjoy the hum of 5 120mm rad fans running full speed. That being said, what I do not enjoy is the restricted access to the inside of the case whenever I need to get in there. I had a RAM socket do bad, so swapping sticks of RAM in and out to troubleshoot was a PITA. I have a friend whom I helped build a new system a couple of months ago and I pushed him to get the Noctua Twin Tower Monster Cooler. The performance and quietness of that thing is impressive. Next build, I'm going with that.

@DIYTech21 3 года назад

Once you get into PC building, making is more fun than use. Personally dont like the AIOs. Custom loop is always more fun

@AlLiberali 3 года назад

Never got the point of small cases If you want a small system go for a laptop otherwise go full tower

@butterzzz13 3 года назад

Super excited to do my first custom loop! Was planning on doing it for my 2021 PC refresh that (like most) is delayed until further notice. On my current system my CPU (2700x) is being cooled by a 240 AIO and my GPU (1080ti) has the stock EVGA SC2 Black air cooler.

@DaidSS 3 года назад

Looking forward to the 7000D build! My next build will definitely be a custom loop! I will be using soft tubing though, as it is only for the performance benefits

@dave_dennis 3 года назад

Right now I am procuring my components to build my first open loop system. I am so nervous about having a leak that will short something but like you said the reward is worth the risk.

@Chris-techgamesfood Год назад

I use a big air cooler but I don’t over clock the system and it’s really quite too. If I was building at your level I’d definitely be tempted by open loop.

@mushiim8 3 года назад

About to do my first custom loop SFF build in the coming weeks and I pray that it all fits 🙏

@TheNiteNinja19 3 года назад

Swifttech had a series, I have one the h320 prestige, which was an all-in-one liquid cooler, that used industry standard custom water cooling components and blocks and pumps and stuff. Mine is over 5 years old, the loop is expanded into a whole bunch of different components, and still running strong to this day, to my surprise.

@NathanMillerVisuals 3 года назад

Thanks for the useful info Jay! I've been running an AIO for 4970K on my first build (which is now a linux goof around PC). I got a beefier AIO for my Threadripper 3960x. Temps don't seem unreasonable, it's been perfectly fine for my Blender work, also keep in mind I'm working in a 2005 Mac Pro Tower I modded. I am interested in custom water cooling just for the Threadripper and kinda just want to do soft tubing to make it easy. Would be awesome to get the temps down on my system during the summer since that case is the worst case for cooling but it looks sick.

@TheSlayerWithin 3 года назад

Crazy… last night I looked up aio vs custom and watched your old video. Now I gotta watch the new one

@grand_master_glass 3 года назад

2:53 the Kraken G12 bracket works amazing for my RX590 and I have a heavy overclock on it as well! Highly recommend

@DamoDGCUK 3 года назад

I recently brought my first AIO cooler (Aero Cool Mirage L240 RGB) due to fact I was getting quiet a lot of system shut down and thermal throttling. Mainly down to the hot environment. Also because it give me the little bit more head room for my CPU overclock, especially in the hot and steamy summer months here in the UK. I would love one day to experiment with costume water cooling (one day), I am just worried about leaking and other problems with custom loops. But I might do it on my next system overhaul. Keep up the cool video Jay :)

@DrgnTV 3 года назад

Luckily I’ve been looking for a video like this 3 days ago. Thank you Jay.

@stuntmandav 3 года назад

Was using aio and just Recently made a custom loop really fun and worth the time and research I put into it. Can’t wait to see what you do with Skunk Works hopefully there’s some glass bents in there😄

@CFHDime 3 года назад

Yes! Let’s see the build in progress. Can’t learn unless we see it in action. Also, would you mind showing us what AIO's can be refilled/maintained? I'm not too familiar with water cooling, which is why I'm here watching this video.

@tman8580 3 года назад

Love the videos man. I bought my first AIO, went with the corsair h100i, i love it. I got some corsiar fans as well and the system is so quiet now.

@frostbyte2153 3 года назад

I want to take the time an thank you Jay, computers has always been my system of choice. lv always wanted an Alienware because the hype was insane but could never afford them. I started watching your videos an used pc part picker an finally bought part by part an created my own ryzen 5 3600 pc. Thank you for the inspiration!

@EfrainMan 3 года назад

A custom loop is definitely fun to put together and is a real talking piece! Long before closed loops existed I did my own custom loops for years, about the time people started to do water cooling. The only I really liked was the semi-custom loop from Koolance, where the pump/rad/reservoir were one unit you put on top of the PC, you just needed the hoses and blocks. Getting cool hose and liquid colors is really satisfying. But the maintenance, especially when changing the GPU, was definitely a hassle, and something to consider. Nowadays I just do closed loops, I don't really have the energy to put something like that together, but the crazy things that are made for custom loops nowadays makes me really jelly that those didn't exist back in the day!

@fuchnorris6277 Год назад

jelly😑

@davepianist84 3 года назад

The 7000d is going to make a perfect case for custom watercooling, really looking forwards to that video.

@kevindarrah1969 Год назад

Thanks for the great videos Jay. After watching this one I am going to try my first custom loop. Love your videos, just a wealth of information that's very helpful.

@belveder69 Год назад

I was using a Thermaltake Big Water full cooling setup back in the early 2000's. Last for a few years and did a great job

@claypyrotech7473 Год назад

I am in the process of doing research for a custom water cool system kinda excited been wanting to do one for years and just never had the chance too do it.

@raynibbs4679 3 года назад

Hey Jayz! thanks for all the videos you do. I have been building my own computers since mid 90's, but I could NEVER get a good explanation of the water cooling options available. I am looking at NZXT for my next build, after my 10yr old comp screamed and died. And... no vid cards. So thank you very much for this video which expanded my understanding of what water cooling options are available and the ups and downs of each.

@jamegumb7298 3 года назад

Got me an Eisbär LT for Window system, the one 3647 block one can get for my dev system with dual pumps, had to use double 40×4 rads for that one. Having the tubing the exact size is a big plus, saves on what little tight space you have. That and you can get the biggest radiator you can possibly fit.