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Air Combat - 1989 Gulf of Sidra Incident 

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On 4 January 1989, two United States Navy F-14 Tomcats shot down two Soviet manufactured Libyan MiG-23 Floggers which the Americans believed were attempting to engage them, as had happened eight years prior during the Gulf of Sidra incident, in 1981. The engagement took place over the Mediterranean Sea about 40 miles (64 km) north of Tobruk, Libya.
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@MrDlt123
@MrDlt123 5 лет назад
People today dont understand how tense the situation was between Libya and the U.S. then. Just four years earlier, Doc Brown, a U.S. citizen, had stolen plutonium from the Libyans to power his time machine.
@BallerKev
@BallerKev 5 лет назад
Darrin Nunyah i wouldn’t be surprised if some dumbass just robbed another country for a cardboard time machine 😂.
@JointTaskForceReaper
@JointTaskForceReaper 5 лет назад
Had us in the first half, not gon’ lie...
@georgebeauchamp1690
@georgebeauchamp1690 5 лет назад
I agree. I'm sure our military tried evasive manuevers before having to fire. You could hear the audio. So with no radar the mirrored the evasions of the US f14s?
@Stacie45
@Stacie45 5 лет назад
It was the fake bomb made out of pinball machine parts that really ticked off the Libyans.
@McDuffee01
@McDuffee01 5 лет назад
The US sold weapon ready uranium to lybia!
@BlackKnight288
@BlackKnight288 4 года назад
It's amazing how low-res all the planes were back then, before they had HD aircraft...
@Vacaneu
@Vacaneu 4 года назад
Haha lol
@snowballjennjenn2825
@snowballjennjenn2825 5 лет назад
You forgot the part where he fly's upside down and takes a picture of the other pilot.
@alexgrime1880
@alexgrime1880 4 года назад
" you know the finger "
@mrgone658
@mrgone658 4 года назад
@@alexgrime1880 "I hate it when it does that."
@michaelhughes3302
@michaelhughes3302 4 года назад
@@mrgone658 Takes my breath away!
@kellyweingart3692
@kellyweingart3692 4 года назад
“Watch the birdie” 🖕🏻😂
@EvanRTedesco
@EvanRTedesco 4 года назад
Me after flipping and taking the pic: “I should be a photographer!”
@kempmt1
@kempmt1 4 года назад
I do miss seeing the F-14 Tomcat on carrier decks. 6:57-"I can't, I ain't got a f@!*king tone!"
@jbox777
@jbox777 4 года назад
6:42 “SHOOT HIM!!”
@scottmurphy650
@scottmurphy650 5 лет назад
Why did the Libyian navy switch their ships to glass bottoms? So they could keep track of their air force!
@toukabrinizar3268
@toukabrinizar3268 3 года назад
One American plane was shoot down by libyan army...we dont say all the truth
@jerrybroxson1174
@jerrybroxson1174 3 года назад
@@toukabrinizar3268 Whatever helps you sleep at night Ahmed. You might want to loosen that hat.
@Osquar
@Osquar 3 года назад
Yeah easy to shoot people not even fighting back.
@floof6000
@floof6000 3 года назад
Long live the Great Libyan Arab Jamahiriya!
@crazybrit-nasafan
@crazybrit-nasafan 4 года назад
The United States military. The worlds leading distributor of MIG parts.
@michaelhawker2642
@michaelhawker2642 4 года назад
Crazy Brit: I guess not a lot of people appreciate just how good that one was.
@crazybrit-nasafan
@crazybrit-nasafan 4 года назад
@@michaelhawker2642 As they say. "Many a true word said in jest" It would be interesting to see each nations kill ratios. The USAF lost quite a few aircraft in the Korean and Vietnam wars. The Isrealis have been in quite a few conflicts with it's neighbours too.
@southpakrules
@southpakrules 4 года назад
And air bus...and human parts.
@marioabram1560
@marioabram1560 4 года назад
And parts 737 max
@whispofwords2590
@whispofwords2590 4 года назад
@@crazybrit-nasafan yeah..no. I garuntee you we lost far fewer aircraft in vietnam then the enemy. Especially if a 1 to 13 kill ratio was considered a bad thing at one point.
@dmt3339
@dmt3339 5 лет назад
Was laughing at how one F-14 was always in full afterburner but never went any faster than the other F-14.
@billyboblillybob344
@billyboblillybob344 5 лет назад
...and how their variable geometry wings were always in the slowest speed setting except for the non-afterburning one did a few maneuvers.
@bendy1808
@bendy1808 5 лет назад
f 16 has two engines in gta does,nt it
@gildoegonzo5741
@gildoegonzo5741 5 лет назад
dmt3339 lol ya I noticed that too
@scottworley1479
@scottworley1479 5 лет назад
The other one was equipped with that supercruise technology.
@santhony74
@santhony74 5 лет назад
And the animation of the first plan shot down was a helicopter. :)
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 4 года назад
The F-14’s ARE NOT descending to confuse the enemies radar with the ocean clutter - they are descending so that the powerful radars are looking up with no clutter & their missiles will have a better chance of hitting their targets with no clutter.
@andyaim4764
@andyaim4764 4 года назад
Look down shoot down?
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 4 года назад
Andy Aim They were flying the F-14A models with the AN/AWG-9 radar which had the old ass analog computer. It could look down and shoot down but it wasn’t very good it was better to look up and shoot up.
@elymayer4860
@elymayer4860 3 года назад
The AWG-9 can operate in pulse, and pulse-Doppler modes. Surface clutter isn’t much of an issue for pulse Doppler.
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 3 года назад
@@elymayer4860 Agreed but once a target starts notching pulse Doppler isn’t good due to target having a zero relative speed & you lose the target. You can try to re-acquire the target by decreasing MCL (Mainlobe Clutter Filter) which you can only do so much before the ground start showing up as multiple targets. So if you’re higher than a target you wanna dive below it and then look up at it.
@elymayer4860
@elymayer4860 3 года назад
@@jamielancaster01 all well and good. But it doesn’t change the fact that you have 14 does not have the problem losing targets in surface clutter. There may be other tactical reasons for going low. But surface clutter isn’t one of them
@ikaikamaleko8370
@ikaikamaleko8370 5 лет назад
"I dont have fuckng tone" 😂😁
@psycho.dad5252
@psycho.dad5252 4 года назад
at least 50% of his missiles actually worked, All of mine just dropped or flew off chasing squirrels. people blame the f 4,s, a very fine, capable bird. just our guns were loaded with dud,s.
@killian9314
@killian9314 4 года назад
@@psycho.dad5252 f4?
@psycho.dad5252
@psycho.dad5252 4 года назад
@@killian9314 f 4 phantom ll yes. the enemy had to worry about a dud falling on his head more than an actual shoot down.
@psycho.dad5252
@psycho.dad5252 4 года назад
@Frogman Smith we were up there to kill machines, not people.
@psycho.dad5252
@psycho.dad5252 4 года назад
@Frogman Smith What I was referring to is we weren't shooting at people, we were shooting at machines. When we were in ground attack, we were shooting people. Of course you know people are dying, but if you dwell on it, you should turn in your wings and fly a desk, there's no shame in that. War sucks, as it must.
@peterlovett5841
@peterlovett5841 5 лет назад
Thank you for the clearest description of what happened that day. There are other videos containing the audio from the action but they lack the clarity which your video provides. Well done.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
Too bad it’s wrong. In fact, it’s a lie.
@markwheeler202
@markwheeler202 5 лет назад
I saw an F-14 at an airshow in Eau Claire WI back in the '80s. Most amazing aircraft performance I've ever seen, from an airplane that was absolutely huge.
@jim2lane
@jim2lane 4 года назад
One of the best ever. An amazing aircraft that fulfilled every mission type it was tasked with. It would still be a formidable aircraft today, but it's downfall was an incredibly high maintenance cost per hour flown.
@MegaJasonic
@MegaJasonic 5 лет назад
Well, if they weren't hostile, they were extremely dumb. Flying toward a battle group....flying toward two navy Tomcats at that time in history in that area. Not real wise.
@jwb2814
@jwb2814 5 лет назад
Jake Glassmoyer Play stupid games win stupid prizes
@starscream4379
@starscream4379 5 лет назад
Typical western arrogance, your country and empire is crumbling as we speak
@vgl3ntdj829
@vgl3ntdj829 5 лет назад
@@starscream4379 haha chill out.
@jwb2814
@jwb2814 5 лет назад
Star Scream Hahahaha oh noooo darkness
@realdeathpony
@realdeathpony 5 лет назад
@@starscream4379 Who are you comparing that too?
@Fireblogging
@Fireblogging 5 лет назад
This was a significant event in my life, just over 30 years ago. At the time, I was commanding the closest U.S. and NATO bases to the incident on the Italian island of Lampedusa. Thirty-three months earlier in April 1986, prior to my assumption of command, Libya had fired two Scud missiles at my base. We were in a constant state of readiness for further attacks. A few minutes after the event, I received a STU-II call from 6th Fleet Intelligence at La Madelena, advising me of the incident and other relevant facts. At that precise moment, I had a large, C-53 Sea Stallion helicopter from Sigonella, Sicily preparing to take off from my base, direct flight to Tel Aviv. I had to make an immediate judgment call to ground the helicopter, and ordered the unarmed aircraft's commander to shut down. Had they taken off, their route would have taken them into very hostile airspace with no defenses. The A/C was furious at my order until I told him why I grounded him; he calmed down pretty quickly. There were a number of events through that night and over the next few days. We had recon aircraft flying constant circles over the base for several days, and NATO warships making pickets around Lampedusa and the other Pelagie Islands. We put the six-person crew of the helicopter up on our base for the night. We gave them a great meal, and despite the fact that I ordered THREATCON CHARLIE for the base, I think they managed to have a good time. They left late the following morning, but flew directly back to Sicily. I slept on a sofa in the wardroom to make my cabin available to the two women on the crew. Late that night, we had a little excitement when our external security forces, an Italian special forces team, decided to make an unannounced survey of our perimeter with all of their light off. It is to the great credit of Mike Loy and the other watchstanders that they didn't fire on the Italians but instead came to the wardroom and got me. The next evening, I got another call from 6th Fleet, advising me that Libyan leader Col. Gadaffi had threatened my life and the life of the U.S. Navy officer in command at NAS Sigonella, Sicily. My response to that news was, "Couldn't I just invite Gadaffi over for coffee and talk about It?" (Yes, I was kidding. You have to joke when you're told that the leader of a country has just threatened your life. But I don't think the 6th Fleet duty officer knew what to make of my question. 😎)
@kyleatherton1317
@kyleatherton1317 5 лет назад
Great story 👍😎
@charletonzimmerman4205
@charletonzimmerman4205 5 лет назад
Actually, this wasn't 1st time, Libyan's, messed with the Kennedy, September, 11th, 1980, & 20th, President "Carter" ordered, CV-67, to cross the line of "DEATH", It was, dropped, from entry,in Big John's Cruise Log book "Classified"
@AvengerII
@AvengerII 5 лет назад
Personally, I always got a kick out of the fact that Nikita Khrushchev apparently did want to visit Disneyland on his US visit in September 1959. The visit was denied because they felt they couldn't guarantee security for him. Walt Disney bemoaned the lost publicity... ( => Not really but he would have gotten a kick out of hosting the biggest communist in the world at the time in his theme park. Disney was no communist but he was a showman!) His son Sergei, who was an engineer who worked in rocket and ICBM design, lives in the US. He and his wife are naturalized US citizens and tell some VERY INTERESTING stories from the Cold War! Life is stranger than fiction!
@charletonzimmerman4205
@charletonzimmerman4205 5 лет назад
@@AvengerII ??? "ColdWAR," with HOT NUKES"
@AvengerII
@AvengerII 5 лет назад
@@charletonzimmerman4205 I frankly don't know what your problem is and I DON'T CARE. If you want to parse and redefine terms, GO AHEAD. Just don't be surprised if they get annoyed by you! I was trying to add something to the conversation. What you're doing is something else!!! BLOCKED!
@hectorzambrano4092
@hectorzambrano4092 5 лет назад
I like how you just started the "Air Combat" series!
@ryanjapan3113
@ryanjapan3113 5 лет назад
Hector Zambrano air combat?
@ryanjapan3113
@ryanjapan3113 5 лет назад
Hector Zambrano nevermind
@LogCap4Jobs
@LogCap4Jobs 5 лет назад
In 1974 while stationed aboard the U.S.S. Assurance (AG-521) as an Ocean Systems Technician (OT), we took a little cruise to the Mediterranean, where life got very interesting. After leaving our home port of Charleston SC, we had made a port of call at Bermuda, and then Ponta Delgada in the Azores before entering the Med. The entire purpose of the ship (an old WW-II minesweeper which had been converted into an intelligence gathering platform), was to detect Russian nuclear submarines via a Towed Array Sound Survellience system known as TASS, which we would deploy once on station. It drove the Russians nuts. We would find them, and then Airdales in P3 Orion A/C would come out to drop sono-bouys on top of them to pinpoint their precise location. It was like playing hide-and-seek on a grand scale. After crossing the big pond, the day finally came that we were to enter the Med, and in a chessboard move to try and out-slick the Russkies, we de-energized our radar before entering the Straits of Gibraltar thinking maybe they wouldn't notice us. Fat chance. It was broad daylight, a beautiful day, fair winds and following seas when we steamed into the Med, and once well out of sight from land, we reeled out our underwater detection equipment, and began conducting operations. All was well. We detected a surface ship over the visual horizon which had been shadowing us on a parallel course, but it wasn't particularly alarming, and as evening fell, those crew who were not on duty gathered on the fan tail to enjoy a movie. The mood was light, and we were all relaxed and full from our all you can eat steak and lobster dinner, which was the norm with a compliment of only 80 or so crewmen. It was a wooden ship, and we were iron men. As the movie concluded at about 2100, the surface ship which had been shadowing us suddenly went full speed ahead, and turned to a collision course with us, bearing down as if they meant to cut us in half. Our bridge crew was sounding the horn, the signalman was frantically flashing the light, and at the last possible moment, the Russkies cut hard to port narrowly missing us so closely, that we were awash in their wake. That was just within the first hours of our arrival into the Med, with many other harrowing encounters and adventures to follow. I wouldn't have traded it for anything in the world.
@PowerandLuxury
@PowerandLuxury 5 лет назад
More!!!
@jamesbannerman4804
@jamesbannerman4804 5 лет назад
Yes, what other tales?
@madhukarjonathanminj2772
@madhukarjonathanminj2772 2 года назад
please tell more such tales!!
@jeremydiaz9642
@jeremydiaz9642 5 лет назад
*_Now if only they made an Ace Combat game about this._*
@elbenja0088
@elbenja0088 4 года назад
Yeah, I'm wondering why isn't the MiG-23/27 in any AC game
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 3 года назад
Just Some Girl With A Mustache Ace Combat is a crappy arcade game. DCS is where it’s at.
@elbenja0088
@elbenja0088 3 года назад
@@keirfarnum6811 And here we have someone who doesn't like Ace Combat just because "it's arcade"-
@funkyschnitzel
@funkyschnitzel 3 года назад
@@elbenja0088 As someone who grew up on ace combat, I used to love it for what it was. It was a fantastic arcade game about my favourite fighter jets with a good story. I sadly haven't enjoyed the modern ace combats as much as the ones from when I was a kid. I will say though that if you're into modern jet combat at all (and don't mind dumping some money) DCS is a million times better than ace combat for the feeling of actually being in the cockpit.
@marcellinosebastian9406
@marcellinosebastian9406 3 года назад
Well the first missions in AC usually involves intercepting bogeys like AC5
@pillettadoinswartsh4974
@pillettadoinswartsh4974 4 года назад
Actual audio AND VIDEO from the incident: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q2eSk6uQWS0.html
@MrCapi55
@MrCapi55 5 лет назад
Great Video as always Allec Joshua; the Communications, and the final scenes showing even the MIG 23. Thank You.
@HEROSMUSIC1
@HEROSMUSIC1 5 лет назад
MAVERICK AND GOOSE//
@drkatel
@drkatel 5 лет назад
Well that raised my pulse...can't imagine the surge of adrenaline the pilots felt. Excellent video! I enjoyed this more than I expected.
@reggierico
@reggierico 5 лет назад
I believe one of the US pilots was later killed in a training accident. Thanks for your service. RIP
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
No, he was from the 1981 incident.
@johncameron8730
@johncameron8730 5 лет назад
6:18 Hit that MiG-23 so hard it turned into a Helix!😬
@tigrismask8450
@tigrismask8450 5 лет назад
Oh man...I laughed for 10 minutes on that comment!. Good catch.
@batangfirst5993
@batangfirst5993 5 лет назад
bet you cant do that to Russian fighter Pilots
@reneegiese6315
@reneegiese6315 5 лет назад
Inday Garutay Why not, please?
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 5 лет назад
@@batangfirst5993 : There were no Russian fighter pilots in 1989. Only Soviet fighter pilots. ;) Seriously, though, it would depend on the circumstances - but I read the Soviets were very strict on controlling air intercepts from the ground. Their fighter pilots were ordered around like airliner pilots. Climb to this altitude, turn to this heading, increase to this speed, etc, etc, etc. The pilots apparently were granted very little leeway to make decisions on their own, at least not until an engagement had actually begun. Great way to lose the initiative in a fight.
@batangfirst5993
@batangfirst5993 5 лет назад
Tim Smith the soviets shut down an american pilot gary powers but no americans shut down a soviet pilots
@analtubegut66
@analtubegut66 5 лет назад
That was amazing. I hope you continue this as its own side-series (combat incursions), like you've done with the airport videos aside from the disaster ones. Reminded me of your "bogey down" video somewhat
@ateltoni
@ateltoni 5 лет назад
I love how this new series is made in the same way as Air Disasters.
@dsanalysis5013
@dsanalysis5013 5 лет назад
Its perfect. Has the history of the airframes at the end and all
@Adam-vd7op
@Adam-vd7op 5 лет назад
Ateltoni34 fuck off roblox kid
@randonlando418
@randonlando418 5 лет назад
AdamIsHere no need to get aggressive.
@mariuszfidzinski7474
@mariuszfidzinski7474 5 лет назад
because all those events are nothing else than... THINK!
@nickykeightley1724
@nickykeightley1724 5 лет назад
My goodness, this was really nail biting scary and realistic. Thank you.
@_flyingcat_7527
@_flyingcat_7527 5 лет назад
@@PervonHarke wooosh
@seamorgh21
@seamorgh21 5 лет назад
Not really. F-14 vs. MiG-23 at that range is very anti-climatic. Especially given the fact that an E-2 Hawkeye was observing the MiG-23's and giving information to the F-14's. The MiGs never even saw the F-14's.
@LupusAries
@LupusAries 5 лет назад
@@seamorgh21 Agreed and let's not get on the realistic part.......given how the MIgs were pretty much non maneuvering vs. a Cat getting onto their tail. Nevermind that at 6:44 the Mig-23 is about 100 metres off the Cat's nose........way too close for a Sidewinder launch (Min-range of 0.3 Nautical miles or roughly 550 metres. And at 5:24 the Cat launches an Aim-120 AMRAAM, which the F-14 never used in fleet service............and at the time of that gulf of Sidra that missile wasn't even in service yet.............it came into service in 1991 post-Desert Storm. You can ascertain which missile it is by checking the fins next to the center of the missile, the ones on the Sparrow are much larger than the ones for the AMRAAM. Also on the AMRAAM those are slightly smaller than the rear fins, while those of the sparrow are larger than the rear fins. Also the AIM-120 has a smokeless motor, the AIM-7 does not. Launching Platform in a footage also is an F-15 eagle, looks a bit like Lock On/Flaming Cliffs 1 footage. As evidenced by 6:18 because that is the Frame of the F-15 HUD, when it was still 2D. Also no notching after the launch? Aka turning off to the left or right in a bid to reduce closure and deny a missile shot. That thing is instinctual for everyone in a combat flight sim, which points out rather strongly that the author never was in an eviroment where his targets shot back.
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 4 года назад
I wonder how they got this film footage, it's so clear
@josephsavona8360
@josephsavona8360 4 года назад
Hmmmm ArT..???? Really this footage is so clear ... Graphics
@amcds2867
@amcds2867 3 года назад
Thanks for all the hard work in making that animation/recreation.
@Women_Rock
@Women_Rock 5 лет назад
I’ve probably listened to the audio of this about 20 times but was never had much of a clear picture of what was actually going on. Thanks
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
Watch Ward Carroll’s description. It’s much more accurate and enlightening. This one is BS.
@davida1610
@davida1610 5 лет назад
Very Good Alec, I hadn't heard of this incident. There's more to readiness than just having hardware, training is every bit as crucial !
@watershed44
@watershed44 5 лет назад
@David A Same here. I was probably just out of HS and I can't recall hearing about this incident, even though I was a bit of a avgeek even then. Really strange unless the news didn't report it for various reasons.
@DiCelloPiano
@DiCelloPiano 5 лет назад
Hey Guys, the real footage of this dogfight ,( i.e, black and white -camera / cockpit and radio recordings) is posted here on RU-vid , even though its one of those blurry- military recordings , it's worth watching , super intense , I'll try to find it again to post the link in this thread if I can get it again ...
@DiCelloPiano
@DiCelloPiano 5 лет назад
Heres one upload of the real combat vid , The video isn't much , but all the radio coms are there , ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P4kk_5lcQ2s.html
@DiCelloPiano
@DiCelloPiano 5 лет назад
Heres' one of the versions of it , all the radio com is on this link , ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P4kk_5lcQ2s.html
@Robin-bk2lm
@Robin-bk2lm 5 лет назад
2:35 "jinking", not "jinxing"
@blyxx7450
@blyxx7450 4 года назад
Left out the part where pilot says "Now let's get the hell out a here!"
@FireDude13
@FireDude13 4 года назад
lol yeah after the engagement they hit the deck and headed North. Didn't want to risk getting shot at by medium or long range SAMs
@captainnice9698
@captainnice9698 4 года назад
Also, they didn't any more missiles left to defend themselves.
@blyxx7450
@blyxx7450 4 года назад
@@captainnice9698 Didn't know that thanks.
@ajlukelepuke
@ajlukelepuke 5 лет назад
Awesome video. Love those old F-14s.
@supaordie
@supaordie 5 лет назад
Yes Agreed!
@KLRGT500KR
@KLRGT500KR 5 лет назад
The one and only. The greatest! "Anytime Baby!"
@rebellucy5610
@rebellucy5610 5 лет назад
Best US fighter in my opinion.
@KLRGT500KR
@KLRGT500KR 5 лет назад
@@rebellucy5610 It really was the most well rounded. It had some many different way to take out its opponent and such depth in its capabilities.
@johnnybravo5758
@johnnybravo5758 5 лет назад
I love your attitude but they are not old! LOL... Still the fastest fighter to date and nothing even comes close. Mach 2.32 with GE engines and airframe updates. Was stupid to get rid of them . Could have made them smaller and still be better than the FA-18 which I also worked on.
@rsookchand919
@rsookchand919 5 лет назад
You should do more air combat videos they're pretty good
@josephastier7421
@josephastier7421 5 лет назад
I still remember those radio calls because they played them over and over on the TV news when this happened. I think our guys were expecting the Libyans to kind of check us out from standoff range, but never expected to actually have to fight them. As a side note, Libya at this time had a nuclear weapons program that Qaddafi later gave up in order to be part of the UN (getting his scientists killed as spies in the process). It was so advanced it caught us completely off guard, and the TV news only showed boxes instead of the actual equipment.
@lt.petemaverickmitchell7113
@lt.petemaverickmitchell7113 5 лет назад
GREAT video....really like what you did here!
@aflacduckquack
@aflacduckquack 5 лет назад
Very nice job, Allec, along with all your other work. Keep on pumping them out... :D
@God_Help_Us_Please
@God_Help_Us_Please 4 года назад
5:24 Sums up the tension in the room.
@NateCraven318
@NateCraven318 4 года назад
LOL
@scarecrow108productions7
@scarecrow108productions7 2 года назад
The RIO Cmdr.Conelly said that coz he didn't expect for his pilot to launch a Sparrow. They were arguing earlier to use a fox-2 (Sidewinder) rather than a fox-1 ( Sparrow) So it caught him by surprise when his pilot launched a sparrow, prompting him to say "Ah Jesus."
@NathanSmith-dd4fg
@NathanSmith-dd4fg 2 года назад
I think this is your best video. Very compelling stuff in this situation.
@rudeone4life
@rudeone4life 5 лет назад
Very nicely done. Keep up the good work.
@Jen-X333
@Jen-X333 5 лет назад
This was awesome!!! Please do more like this😊
@MScorpioM
@MScorpioM 5 лет назад
Awesome video, pal! Keep up the good work. Request: Can you do 1997 Charkhi Dadri midair collision?
@1ZosoLZ
@1ZosoLZ 5 лет назад
Pretty sure he did that one ages ago
@MapleBar777
@MapleBar777 5 лет назад
This was well put together. Subbed. 👍
@LEPERCOLONY1
@LEPERCOLONY1 5 лет назад
Well done - I listen to this all the time at work.
@TechnicalsMatt
@TechnicalsMatt 5 лет назад
Are we supposed to have visitors today? Negative sir.
@66ott7
@66ott7 5 лет назад
Who do we have up there? Connolly and Enwright, Sir. Shit!... Connolly and Enwright...
@TechnicalsMatt
@TechnicalsMatt 5 лет назад
Chuck Steak Ghostrider take angels 10, left 3-0
@devintariel3769
@devintariel3769 5 лет назад
@@TechnicalsMatt I want some butts
@colinzhu9631
@colinzhu9631 5 лет назад
Great...Maverick & Goose
@kyleatherton1317
@kyleatherton1317 5 лет назад
Goose you see a trailer??
@USNRaptor
@USNRaptor 5 лет назад
In 1989, Pat Sajak had his own late night talk show. I remember him making jokes about the Libyans were looking for their fighters as he showed video of swimmers diving under water.
@AD-yi3qz
@AD-yi3qz 4 года назад
My new favourite video. Love that you have transmission from the aircraft. Well. done.
@CaptJohn-cg3jv
@CaptJohn-cg3jv 5 лет назад
Great video Allec!
@firebird_0-1
@firebird_0-1 5 лет назад
5:24 "Oh, Jesus."
@itmejac6945
@itmejac6945 4 года назад
Fortzub and they didn’t. Did kill two MiGs though
@youngbloodhobby2103
@youngbloodhobby2103 5 лет назад
Woke up at 4:33am and what do I see? A new vid from Alec waiting for me!
@protector22222
@protector22222 5 лет назад
And a rhyme apparently
@ered203
@ered203 5 лет назад
Why would anyone play chicken with a couple of F-14's amazes me.
@fjs456
@fjs456 5 лет назад
ered203 I don’t know, but when you listen to Cdr. Enwright, he sounded like he’s soon gonna shit his pants, so it seems like the situation wasn’t such an easy win as you want to point out 😂
@glennchartrand5411
@glennchartrand5411 5 лет назад
They were supposed to form up with two other Libyan planes and their ground controllers identified the Tomcats as those two planes. So they kept redirecting them to the Tomcats everytime they turned away. After Lockerbie nobody in the Navy was going to give Libya the benefit of a doubt. Play stupid games and you'll win stupid prizes
@anonymouscitizen2732
@anonymouscitizen2732 5 лет назад
Bet the Libyan guy in the control tower got his ass chewed for not telling his pilots that they were intercepting tomcats instead of their flight crew.@@glennchartrand5411
@glennchartrand5411
@glennchartrand5411 5 лет назад
@@anonymouscitizen2732 Well, if you mean LITERALLY ( as in fed alive to tigers or something ) then yeah , I could see that happening in Libya.
@barthill9578
@barthill9578 5 лет назад
How you know they were playing chicken?
@TopGunTrading
@TopGunTrading 5 лет назад
Great video, thanks for sharing. One small nit pick ... the term is "Jink" vs "Jinx", meaning the MiGs were doing a short, sharp turn.
@conradutecht3822
@conradutecht3822 5 лет назад
Outstanding video, would like to see more.
@raftash5279
@raftash5279 5 лет назад
Now do the USS liberty incident
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 4 года назад
We all know about the Liberty. We all know the details. You don't have to force the issue just because you're a Jewhater.
@ParkerUAS
@ParkerUAS 5 лет назад
The lead F-14 here, Gypsy 207, is the F-14 on display at the Udvar-Hazy location of the National Air and Space Museum in Washington DC. It was converted to a F-14D in the early 90's and continued to serve with VF-31 Tomcatters, and VF-101 Grim Reapers before retiring with the rest of the F-14's in 2006.
@bigwillie5717
@bigwillie5717 3 года назад
Awesome both 14’s are museum pieces now. I remember when this initially hit the news.
@Mal4de
@Mal4de 5 лет назад
Great video! Good job on the pilots. Cheers from Brazil.
@f0x23
@f0x23 5 лет назад
You should do the 1981 engagement as well.
@timg2088
@timg2088 3 года назад
There is a similar video on RU-vid of the '81 Gulf of Sidra incident. Not sure who made it, but its almost identical to this one. Check it out, you won't be disappointed.
@dannymason6384
@dannymason6384 5 лет назад
Great video and description! 👍
@Thetequilashooter1
@Thetequilashooter1 4 года назад
Excellent re-enactment. Best that I have seen yet.
@terrym.3597
@terrym.3597 5 лет назад
Do more videos on this content please
@WyvernFalken
@WyvernFalken 5 лет назад
For future reference, Alec, the aircraft were making jinking maneuvers, not jinxing maneuvers. Otherwise, nicely done. If you perhaps thought on it to make this much effort on a combat mission in FS2004, you could look into doing future air combat videos through Digital Combat Simulator.
@Jen-X333
@Jen-X333 5 лет назад
What are jinking maneuvers anyway?
@WyvernFalken
@WyvernFalken 5 лет назад
@@Jen-X333 When an aircraft jinks, it's performing quick and unexpected maneuvers either in a manner to defeat a missile or in this case, readjust to an intercept course with the F-14s.
@Jen-X333
@Jen-X333 5 лет назад
@@WyvernFalken hey thanks 👍🏻
@thefastestfox1
@thefastestfox1 5 лет назад
@@WyvernFalken Much like myself avoiding the wife when I come in drunk.
@theobserver4214
@theobserver4214 5 лет назад
WyvernFalken Combat Missions are also doable in FSX:SE. Its stable at 30FPS given you use DX10, and it gives you an F-14 by default
@triplex2912
@triplex2912 5 лет назад
A very well put together video with a lot of technical and political information. Congratulations on a job well done!
@PervonHarke
@PervonHarke 5 лет назад
there where many errors.
@patches6309
@patches6309 5 лет назад
Excellent representation of a second by second account of these types of engagements. Very well done! Please make more of these simulated documentary videos!
@drmichaelshea
@drmichaelshea 5 лет назад
The lesson here is obvious. Don’t ever point your MIG at a Tomcat unless you intend to pull the trigger, and if you intend to pull the trigger, you had better make sure that yours is bigger and faster than his.
@barthill9578
@barthill9578 5 лет назад
Lesson here is if degenerates invade your airspace fire don't investigate.
@zarakdurrani7584
@zarakdurrani7584 5 лет назад
Brilliantly executed video! Perhaps you could switch over to DCS for making future air combat videos/incidents?
@KotaroKoala
@KotaroKoala 5 лет назад
Would be pretty expensive.
@zarakdurrani7584
@zarakdurrani7584 5 лет назад
ScoopityDoopity well I guess it would be somehwhat expensive. But I'm pretty sure he has spent thousands on fs9 at this point. Heatblur animations f14 is 59.99. But infinitely more detailed and realistic.
@chrisj6917
@chrisj6917 4 года назад
@@zarakdurrani7584 Here's a hyper-realistic mock-up: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fuswSMO15iQ.html ;)
@smoothoperator7306
@smoothoperator7306 4 года назад
Nice video , well done .
@MihzvolWuriar
@MihzvolWuriar 5 лет назад
If more of this kind of videos is made, I'm a sure sub
@bobcranston3414
@bobcranston3414 5 лет назад
As a former Hawkeye mole (VAW-122), shout out to my brothers in VAW-126. Nice work!
@lindebr
@lindebr 5 лет назад
Just listening to Enwright, he was in full blown panic mode.
@puirYorick
@puirYorick 5 лет назад
I've thought the same since that audio was first released. Despite the successful kills in the end, it's not exactly a by-the-book engagement. There are a few teachable moments there.
@justsmy5677
@justsmy5677 5 лет назад
Yep, he did not interpret his scope(s) well. When you turn your jet is is going to change the vector stick of the bogey/bandit and create the illusion of a change in aspect. There's no way the MiG drivers could have perceived the Tomcat turns and reacted so fast/ accurate. The DOD covered the Navy's butt with those statements. Note how the front seater had a different opinion of events and was surprised when a missile came off his jet!
@EdgemanLL2
@EdgemanLL2 5 лет назад
@@puirYorick You tell 'em, Maverick!
@EdgemanLL2
@EdgemanLL2 5 лет назад
@@justsmy5677 *he did not interpret his scope(s) well* LOL @ DCS fuxbois.
@justsmy5677
@justsmy5677 5 лет назад
@EdgemanLL2 - what are you trying to say with your comment?
@MrAvionis
@MrAvionis 4 года назад
great recreation, good job liked it
@BaddAtom
@BaddAtom 5 лет назад
History to be remembered, thanks for the vid!
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
Then get it right. This is bullshit.
@josephherron7671
@josephherron7671 4 года назад
I never knew the F14 at the museum was gypsy 207. I've been there and seen that tomcat several times. But never knew it was part of that incident.
@sidefx996
@sidefx996 4 года назад
Me either!! I was there a few years back. Incredible place.
@oldguywisdom2904
@oldguywisdom2904 4 года назад
I was wondering why the migs never fired. Even after the first one was shot down.
@verryanggriawan8910
@verryanggriawan8910 4 года назад
Because mig23 missile is faild
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou 3 года назад
@al Jaberty ok. Just because congress says something doesnt mean it is accurate or true. I think that is clearly self apparent. Furthermore. You dont need your on board radar to fire IR missiles, and a tactic often used by operators of Soviet equipment and doctrine is heavy reliance on GCI, to get into a WEZ and then turn on their radars. 5 turns into me, accelerating, descending, etc are all evidence of an intercept, picture "shaping" and WEZ management. Anyone who says otherwise doesnt know what theyre talking about. It can ALSO be evidence of a misunderstanding and attempted rejoin on your own friendlies. Which, truth data shows it was. All Im saying is that doesnt change the response by the F14s, who reasonably believed they were being intercepted. You wont find a single (good) fighter pilot in the world who wouldnt fire in this situation. They had all ROE met and were well inside self defense criteria. This is a fact. Anyone can say otherwise but ask someone who does this for a living and they will agree.
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou 3 года назад
@al Jaberty you dont know what you're talking about. They were well within international airspace/waters. Im referring to self defense of for the fighters, which applies in international airspace/waters. Unless you think their claim to the entore gulf is valid. Freedom of movement exercises are completely legal and when you are intercepted in international airspace by potentially hostile fighters that have PID, POO, PEI, LOF, and HA/HI met...that equals cleared hot. I do this for a living man. I know what I'm talking about. We had every right to be there.
@hullahahkabar3341
@hullahahkabar3341 3 года назад
because they are humans.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
Their radars never switched on.
@RogBeasly
@RogBeasly 5 лет назад
wow give us need more aerial combat videos! keep up the good work.
@westxlcr
@westxlcr 3 года назад
Commander Connelly’s: “Now wait a minute” and “oh jeeezus” might be the most relatable moments of the whole story. It’s almost like “definitely didn’t expect to be in a fight, but here we are” type of thing.
@user-mv2ff7wm6e
@user-mv2ff7wm6e 5 лет назад
Nice vid... again. Another series?
@joedmac78
@joedmac78 5 лет назад
I always wondered how that battle went down thx
@donnebes9421
@donnebes9421 4 года назад
The actual video with audio from the tomcats is available on the internet, I believe here on RU-vid. All you have to do is a search if you want to see it.
@SamB-fv6su
@SamB-fv6su 5 лет назад
Excellent presentation ! Well done
@louiepahountis9538
@louiepahountis9538 5 лет назад
The Libyans shouldn’t have turned towards the f 14s multiple times, therefore they are a threat
@andrewabrams1535
@andrewabrams1535 5 лет назад
Yep
@yellowhd2414
@yellowhd2414 5 лет назад
Yes
@coltseavers6298
@coltseavers6298 5 лет назад
I love the how the vocal tone of the F14 pilots stress gets ratcheted up as the MIGs keep heading directly towards them.
@starscream4379
@starscream4379 5 лет назад
Maybe the US pilots shouldn't be in Libya territorial waters
@barroningram7286
@barroningram7286 5 лет назад
Star Scream where they ? or were they in international waters? thuth please lets hear it
@channelmati3577
@channelmati3577 5 лет назад
Two duos sweep wing fighters are in combat
@maximme
@maximme 4 года назад
the F14 turn for "standard intercept" the Mig turn for "collision course" NICE
@noone-ft9lw
@noone-ft9lw 5 лет назад
excellent as always, thanks
@timmy3822
@timmy3822 5 лет назад
Good video. However it would look much better if you used DCS instead of the older MS flight sims. It’s free to download and you can use the mission editor to gain footage without needing to pay for the various modules. Also you showed an AIM-7 Sparrow being fired at the end instead of the sidewinder which would be appropriate for the fox 2 call.
@dmutant2635
@dmutant2635 5 лет назад
They looked like AMRAAMs to me...I enjoyed the video but i wish they'd paid more attention to detail in the weapon's load out of all four aircraft.
@davidchamberlin9632
@davidchamberlin9632 5 лет назад
I remember this and the incident involving the Tomcat and a pair of Su-22M Fitters. Tomcat:4 - Lybia:0 ANYTIME BABY!
@TIAGO543211
@TIAGO543211 5 лет назад
with the radar off is pretty easy
@bazonka1
@bazonka1 5 лет назад
@@TIAGO543211 it would have been just as easy with the radars on.
@davidchamberlin9632
@davidchamberlin9632 5 лет назад
The F-14's AWG-9 radar had INCREDIBLE look-down shoot-down capabilities. Once they married it to the AN/APG radar from the F-15E Strike Eagle to make the AWG-10 radar that was used in the F-14D, NOTHING could have stood much of a chance, if ANY, against it.
@dsanalysis5013
@dsanalysis5013 5 лет назад
Yeah yeah. Next time will be the Mig 25 shoot down of F-15 or Bison shoot down of F-16
@dsanalysis5013
@dsanalysis5013 5 лет назад
@@davidchamberlin9632 Except it was text book Veitnam with a failed missile. Which also happened in Syria recently too
@MartinBuhr
@MartinBuhr 5 лет назад
fantastic work - would have been nice if there had been external stores on the Tomcats as well
@mackenja43
@mackenja43 5 лет назад
Another great video! Is there a way to make a one-time, or periodic donations?
@SuperLubot
@SuperLubot 5 лет назад
Who is up there? - Cougar/Merlin and Maverick and Goose - Great! Maverick and Goose.
@SuperLubot
@SuperLubot 5 лет назад
@Stealth Cat Lol!
@glenaitken3471
@glenaitken3471 4 года назад
Surprised those pilots aren't flying a cargo plane full of rubber dogshit out of Hong Kong......
@mikemathews9277
@mikemathews9277 5 лет назад
I wonder who trained those MiG-23 Pilots........Russians who tried hard as Hell but these Pilots Just didn’t get it.
@glennchartrand5411
@glennchartrand5411 5 лет назад
It appears they thought the Tomcats were two planes they were supposed to form up with. So they kept turning towards them. That was a big mistake. Of course you have to wonder , what two other planes (near an American Carrier) were they supposed to meet up with? Libya was probably just looking to harass and annoy the USS Kennedy , but after Lockerbie that was not something the USN was going to allow. In all likelihood the Mig pilots were recovered by Libya and promptly executed for losing two planes.
@slartybarfastb3648
@slartybarfastb3648 5 лет назад
@Li Feng karma.
@slartybarfastb3648
@slartybarfastb3648 5 лет назад
In the case of the MiG 23 it doesn't matter who trained them or how skilled they were. It was a dismal airplane with little capability for fighting air to air against any worthy opponent. It performed absolutely horribly anywhere it's been used outside of a low-level bombing platform. The Soviets scammed their customers into believing it could be used as an interceptor while the Soviets would never have attempted it themselves. It's a straight and level bomb truck with a slow mode and a fast mode. And not much of a bomb truck either.
@barthill9578
@barthill9578 5 лет назад
@@glennchartrand5411 Libya is not a wild wild west lawless country.
@barthill9578
@barthill9578 5 лет назад
@Li Feng You fool what revolution? the fake one you were told. Everybody in Libya loved Gaddafi.
@michaeltayon9184
@michaeltayon9184 5 лет назад
Wow! This really really connected with me! I was a Boatswain's Mate ( a nobody relative to MIL action) on a destroyer out of Mayport Florida, and we were in the MED in 88 and 90, and i had no clue stuff like this was going on! LOL
@TrinityHealth215
@TrinityHealth215 4 года назад
Amazing video. It gave me goosebumps!
@dannydonuts4219
@dannydonuts4219 5 лет назад
Never jinx into a tomcat
@kansasjayhawk8386
@kansasjayhawk8386 5 лет назад
Playing chicken with F14s probably wasn't the smartest thing to do.
@barthill9578
@barthill9578 5 лет назад
Playing chicken says you, people from other parts of the world don't play stupid mindless games like chicken.
@redruby4709
@redruby4709 4 года назад
i once thought i could make history vids with ace combat (or alike). now i see this. thanks man. but i still too young to give anything.
@kingky0927
@kingky0927 5 лет назад
Thanks for making the nice film
@jamielancaster01
@jamielancaster01 4 года назад
Alpha Bravo directs “Condition Yellow - Weapons Hold”!
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 года назад
Exactly.
@tagalaseimonlorenzom.11hum79
@tagalaseimonlorenzom.11hum79 5 лет назад
When I hear of the Tomcat, I always think of Tom Cruise and Top Gun for some reason.
@tagalaseimonlorenzom.11hum79
@tagalaseimonlorenzom.11hum79 5 лет назад
@@grifo_-cyan7123 it is
@tagalaseimonlorenzom.11hum79
@tagalaseimonlorenzom.11hum79 5 лет назад
@Stealth Cat i know
@majtheking
@majtheking 4 года назад
I am a big fan of your recreations of air disasters
@1compaqedr8
@1compaqedr8 5 лет назад
Can you do some videos on military aviation training crashes? Lots of content to choose from...
@AmyEdwards1986
@AmyEdwards1986 5 лет назад
The committees can say what they want: they weren't in the cockpits jousting with those Libyans. If those pilots judged that they were threatened, nobody can't blame them to defend themselves.
@GHOSTOFONYX10
@GHOSTOFONYX10 5 лет назад
yes you absolutely can, anybody can look at the evidence and judge them however they want. It could be just as easily claimed that they were too rash as it can be claimed it was self-defense.
@flyguyry1
@flyguyry1 4 года назад
Amy, you have such an American mind. Why do we get patrol their region with our death machines? Imagine if libya sent planes off the coast of usa and shot down our planes in the same way? Would that be "justified?"
@Armin2U
@Armin2U 5 лет назад
Could you do the Battle of Britain next please
@ratagris214
@ratagris214 5 лет назад
Great video presentation and like the attention to detail and would have been nice if the MiGs were in Libyan Colors not Russian, but the video was great and the actual kill and cockpit records make even better. The history of this aircraft is that extra touch as to what happen to them and where they are now.
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