Gotta go retail on these.. folks from across the water got some more work/ practice to do on 8s. That’s why they’re never available on those rep sites.
I thought the same thing, but I just got the updated version of these which came out after this review. Holy damn I never expected them to start doing 8's so well.
85 1s, air ships, 6s, and the new 8s are board lasted (at least back to the N7 Pendeltons I have). Those 8s are made the same as these but the insole is different. Otherwise, the construction is identical. Is your retail cardboard strobel bent? My pair is and so is my friend's pair. Both retail size 12