Air Ride Seat on a Kubota BX Failure

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We are constantly trying to innovate and come up with products to make it easier and more enjoyable to use your equipment. They don't always work out. We have successfully created brush guards for Kubota models that do not have options out of the factory, and a stabilizer kit for Kubota BX sub-compact tractors to make using the three-point hitch easier to use. This time we tried to create an air ride seat for a BX tractor to help smooth out your ride on rough terrain, and it ALMOST worked.
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@MattN03 10 месяцев назад

Bless you Neil for trying! That's probably my biggest gripe on my B3200. My next tractor will have air ride!

@InLineDiesel6 10 месяцев назад

A+ for effort Neil, don't stop trying to find a solution, it is how they come about.

@geraldbingham2626 10 месяцев назад

I added a Grumman mechanical suspension seat to my BX2370. It didn’t increase seat height much maybe a couple inches at the most. It made a huge difference in ride comfort! I’m a huge fan of Neil’s videos so keep them coming! Thanks

@JeremyNapierkowski 10 месяцев назад

Neil, I'm hoping you continue this seat endeavor. for over a year now I was thinking about cutting off the metal hard stop tab on the bottom of my BX 23s's seat and finding better tuned springs for my 210 lb self. It surely jars my back hard when that seat tab between the springs bottoms out on the metal frame.

@grega-kendalheightsdecorwo9511 10 месяцев назад

R&D... keep it up! There is a long line of us BX owners that want a better seat!

@bryanblake8607 10 месяцев назад

I can respect someone that pokes fun at the not so good ideas. On other notes I passed by one night and I can say they have a good lot full of equipment, had to pick up a load out of Johnson and Johnson so I got to pass by twice and the second pass I got to fully take in just how much they have

@kirbydolak8954 10 месяцев назад

Lots of good comments on possible alternatives. Judging by the number of commenters on this thread Neal with give you a taste that folks out there are looking for a low cost alternative - that doesn't include putting blocks on pedals or scalping your head on the ROPS. Please keep doing the primary research. You have access to vendors and possible solutions we prosumers don't. Thank-you. Best

@JMSynthetics 10 месяцев назад

Too funny, when I was shopping for a new sub compact I think the BX2680 had by far the best seat. I ultimately decided on the 1025r for a couple reasons unrelated but even after installing bolt on hooks upgrade seat springs there still isnt much give to the seat. If you can figure this out you may be in the running for the noble prize.

@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849 10 месяцев назад

I don't know where to begin..... Between the disturbing noise that was coming from your bottom side as you were inflating the seat and watching your feet, kicking up and down in the air...... I am speechless!😂😂😂!😂😂😂

@terrybenson3632 10 месяцев назад

I put a Grammar MSC65 series air ride seat assembly on mine.. Cost me a grand, but it's well worth it.. Very comfortable..

@namewithheld367 10 месяцев назад

Keep trying! I am in desperate need of some service suspension on my BX23S.

@fyxitman 2 месяца назад

For the price of a BX2680, they sure dropped the ball on a comfortable shock absorbing seat. Nothing like waking that sciatic nerve every time I cut grass. Thanks for sharing, I’m gonna try a gel cushion. 🤷🏼‍♂️👍🏻

@rundeks 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for showing your attempt! I’d still love a solution. So hoping your next dea works!

@danriceman7533 10 месяцев назад

Please keep trying since that's probably the biggest thing I'd like to change on my BX also

@chucks4328 10 месяцев назад

Reminds me of the old farmers that used to deflate a football and put it inside the seat spring on old Farmall tractors. Then they'd inflate the football to cushion whatever girth they needed to support.

@Gbfaninnm 10 месяцев назад

I was just pondering this very topic the other day as I was getting my kidneys jarred loose driving across the rough field. Don't give up, there's got to be a solution lurking out there somewhere.

@paullambert2668 10 месяцев назад

Lower air pressure in tires, and don't fill your tires?

@Gbfaninnm 10 месяцев назад

Good suggestions, but haven't put any fluid in the tires, and the terrain that I drive on is full of hard dead tumbleweeds. I literally have at least one flat tire after I'm done with every shredding job I do.😢

@charlesrose7212 10 месяцев назад

A great idea, and an inventive mind! The solution is on the way. Your videos are excellent! 😀

@UtahUPman 10 месяцев назад

The ZD 1011 mowers offer a good seat. It's not an air ride, but it's adjustable and is a vast improvement over the stock BX2380 seat. Try that.

@fendert1384 10 месяцев назад

Hey, you're on the right track, good on you for trying .

@user-yt6og1ql6m 10 месяцев назад

I put a spring ride seat on my B 2710 hst is only about two inches taller love it !

@janking2762 10 месяцев назад

I’m happy with the “better”( so someone said) seat on my maybe 2026 BX33S but, ( no jokes here), I barely weigh enough to prevent the mower from stalling going downhill. Plenty of cushioning for me.:)

@DJC995 10 месяцев назад

Nice One Neil Thanks again

@brandoncrimmins6296 10 месяцев назад

A grand L grammar seat would probably work just fine. I install them daily and as far as air ride seats go. They’re pretty low profile. And they don’t have a whole lot of height gain when filled. However, the issue would obviously be the fact that it’s a cloth seat instead of vinyl…

@matthewgross6958 10 месяцев назад

Neil… I laughed but appreciate the attempt! 😂

@rodneyross5282 10 месяцев назад

Neil, I have a Toro zero turn "My Ride" that has a wonderful seat might want to look at that. It incorporates a shock beautiful ride.

@Mitalayeka 10 месяцев назад

You tried and and that's what counts, just imagine if u where successful..thanks for videos Neil and Co.

@xylothan 10 месяцев назад

I wish I had an air ride seat on my 3560. Also speaking of squeaks, my steering wheel just started to do this when turning. That's certainly getting priority on the to fix list :D

@johnconnolly7282 10 месяцев назад

Hope you'll stick with this. I'd love to find something for my B2601.

@scottk0623 10 месяцев назад

I have a B2601 with the backhoe. The seat wasn’t bad until I added the hoe and the dealer had to change it to swivel around. Now it’s AWFUL.

@jamesmayhugh595 10 месяцев назад

check out the seat on a bx231,the uk version of the bx2380,has a lot of other neat features as well

@ktmcandog 10 месяцев назад

You need to try a low profile air or mechanical seat like they used in GMC topkicks. There out there but more expensive. Mechanical truck suspension seats are lower and fit better in low cabs.

@samengler539 10 месяцев назад

Good video Neal.😂

@mesh1248 10 месяцев назад

Bobcat has a low profile air ride seats in there skidsteers wonder if u can’t use that fir this

@user-je5we7bw2u 10 месяцев назад

Figure it out amd I'll buy one - only complaint on my BX!

@blessingslawn 10 месяцев назад

What about exmarks air ride seat? They sit much lower than that.

@kylemurray6226 10 месяцев назад

Can air ride seats swivel 180 degrees? Would be nice to have but could limit using the backhoe if it doesn’t rotate

@watershedoverlook 10 месяцев назад

Love it! 👍😆

@whitephoenix117 10 месяцев назад

dont give up!

@charlesgrandaw6348 10 месяцев назад

I have a L2502 with the upgraded seat, but there still isn't enough travel, it either bottoms out or bottoms out and hits the top now thats a real back buster, need to find a seat that has more travel and is damped by a shock, no need for air ride

@larrybryan8913 10 месяцев назад

Been trying to figure out what air ride seat I can retro fit on my zd28 any suggestions

@SlackerU 10 месяцев назад

I'm not too familiar with the new lines of products but I remember an adjustable spring-loaded seat on the zero-turns that probably could fit & would be an upgrade for people weighing under 250lbs.

@TheGunner11 10 месяцев назад

Added one to my Kubota zero turn, absolute back saver.

@lightfoot9485 10 месяцев назад

Another thing! Did you raise the roll bar to see if you'd remove your scalp bouncing in the seat? Looks close!!!

@Morpheen999 10 месяцев назад

Maybe try the Air ride seat from the New ZD zero turn... The LX tractors NEED an air ride seat option They sell them as a premium tractor

@SlackerU 10 месяцев назад

The 'squeak' coming from the seat-release-hooks is definitely something Kubota needs to do research into removing. The noise is in many YT videos.

@justkeepingitreal7768 10 месяцев назад

Use an air ride seat base for a cab over truck, they are low profile with pretty decent range of motion.

@boomerau 10 месяцев назад

When new the tractor seat annoyed me. Now doesn't bother me at all. But I also rarely use high gear as it turned out to have "features" with bolts, seals, bearing, etc that cost me more time and money than saved with the speed.

@je1279 9 месяцев назад

Would a good suspension seat, similar to the ones on the LX2610, be a good compromise for BX owners?

@MessicksEquip 9 месяцев назад

could be. In my mind if I was going to improve it, I want to really improve it.

@jimmcknight3021 10 месяцев назад

What about a suspension seat? Not as a comfy as an air ride but a lot better than a standard seat that can be hard as rock when you are on it for a prolonged time period.

@jeeperHK 10 месяцев назад

I don't really care about air ride. But does a current BX seat fit on previous generations of BX's? (I have a 2005 BX23). My current seat is starting to split, and the arm rests would be kinda nice.

@BigGuyLittleTractor 10 месяцев назад

It might work for me

@wink9970 10 месяцев назад

Keep swinging! Target is a good one.

@scottfrazier131 10 месяцев назад

Word on the street is that Kubota has a new version of the B 2601. Any information on that?

@MessicksEquip 10 месяцев назад

not for 2024 anyway

@rogerr1296 10 месяцев назад

Hey, I asked this before but, would Messicks be able to help me with an air ride seat in my MX5400DTC cab tractor? I recently submitted a question about this through the web site but, thought I'd ask here just to see if it's even a possibility or if I am just out of luck. I am 6'2" but I don't think your one-off BX is big enough to do what I would need it to do.....lol..... Thanks.

@MessicksEquip 10 месяцев назад

Yes, thats a factory option. messicks.com/part/L6026 and messicks.com/part/MX6027

@eddiegray793 2 месяца назад

Keep trying my back is killing me...maybe additional springs ?

@gonrdn 10 месяцев назад

What about an air ride for an HD bike? They are low profile.

@RandThompson-dd3sk 10 месяцев назад

3-4" limiting straps. 0 to whatever psi in a contained distance.

@baronallison941 10 месяцев назад

Wow, it's like Home Improvement and Top Gear had a kid...

@MessicksEquip 10 месяцев назад

Love both..

@charlesovermoyer4480 10 месяцев назад

What about after market seats for zero turn tractors?

@jimc9581 10 месяцев назад

Good point, my zero turn has a lot of suspension and doesn't sit very high.

@kevinjames6822 10 месяцев назад

A hemeroid cushion works well on my MX,

@benagain7617 10 месяцев назад

Hey, nice try though! I'd love an air ride seat on my compact tractor.

@roberthale8407 10 месяцев назад

That's not an air-ride seat, that's an ejection seat. I know Tim is laughing his backside off...................

@jollyg83 10 месяцев назад

Please don’t give up, if we can put a man on the moon, by God we can improve the seat on a sun compact tractor. What about instead of air ride what about some sort hydraulic dampener?

@fitch8363 10 месяцев назад

So the Air Ride seat from the ZD1511 wouldn't fit? It's a lot shorter.

@MessicksEquip 10 месяцев назад

base is too large, and I can't buy it at an affordable price.

@fitch8363 10 месяцев назад

@@MessicksEquip The price problem doesn't surprise me. Price is why this octogenarian with a bad back hasn't put it on our ZD1211. It's almost $2,000.

@Skynet-1 10 месяцев назад

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

@ronevans852 10 месяцев назад

Rut row a boo-boo. Lol can’t when them all .

@blessedandhappy3921 10 месяцев назад

Neil, I have an LX2610 with a cab and I miss my tool box so much. I have searched my tractor high and low and cannot find a place to mount one. You seem to have a knack for solving these kinds of problems. Any ideas?

@danuke123 10 месяцев назад

If you don't have rear remotes, you can add a toolbox mount to the right cab support above the 3 point, and I've added one to the front loader support similar to how the sawhauls mount.

@pto.enterprises 10 месяцев назад

If you come up with something that fits your B series I'll take it.

@groundcontrol2795 10 месяцев назад

I have a B2601 and can say the seat on these is absolute trash. These things have so much instability and rocking side to side action, that if you didn't have a back problem before getting one, you'll end up with one after. Why they don't put a decent seat on a piece of equipment like this is beyond us. Then if you do want to modify and put a decent seat on it, you still end up with the side to side flopping around - if you want to keep the forward tilt and forward/back adjustment slides. Now you can make a big or platform to solid mount the seat and match the bolt holes, but then you lose access under the seat unless you unborn and remove the seat. It may however perhaps be doable, as the trans fluid fill is still accessible from the back. I am currently looking to do this, but i may stay with the flimsy, rickety, factory slide mount on which to mount the new seat. The seat I'm looking most at is the Trac Seats Pro Ride Suspension seat. This is the same seat found on many of the upper model ZTR's.

@PurpleCollarLife 10 месяцев назад

Step 1: Sell Shaq a tractor. Step 2: sell him the seat that is custom made for his weight and height. :)

@lordchaa1598 10 месяцев назад

I would love to get an air ride seat on my lx2610, no cab.

@blessedandhappy3921 10 месяцев назад

I have the LX2610 with cab and although it does have an adjustable seat (not air ride) it is still a bumpy ride. Wish I had the air seat.

@lordchaa1598 10 месяцев назад

@@blessedandhappy3921 , yeah, she beats me up pretty good after 6-8 hours of mowing pastures and bumpy:hilly terrain

@lordchaa1598 10 месяцев назад

@@blessedandhappy3921 , I still can’t figure that darn spring out, I can never find a good adjustment from it

@blessedandhappy3921 10 месяцев назад

@@lordchaa1598 does yours have the dial where you can adjust it to your weight?

@lordchaa1598 10 месяцев назад

@@blessedandhappy3921 , it has that metal bar that you can turn to add or remove tension from the spring. I just can’t seem to ever notice a difference no matter where I have it, either fully tensioned or completely loose, to every combo in between and I still haven’t seen a noticeable difference

@wardo17 10 месяцев назад

Put blocks on the pedals like you do for kids. 🤣🤣

@linxj6 10 месяцев назад

I weigh about 103. The air seat add on has made me into a jack in the box. It rocks back and forth way too much. It is painful and bottoms out. The original seat is much better if you just plant your feet on the sides and post as you would on a horse when you hit a bump. IMHO the air seat is more dangerous to your back. This from experience.

@martyb3783 10 месяцев назад

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

@jeromelittle7075 10 месяцев назад

Still no solution

@richardbritton5280 10 месяцев назад

I put an air bag on my b2410 20 bucks works 💪 👷‍♂️ 😎

@gesm6969 10 месяцев назад

E for effort. You have to size the parts to the job you're doing. I made a simple base, that connects to the existing front pivot holes, bolted on a mechanical suspension seat, complete with seat belt and adjustable arm rests, and greatly improved the ride on my BX2670. All for under $700.

@MessicksEquip 10 месяцев назад

I'd love to see photos. neilm@messicks.com

@danyoder3534 10 месяцев назад

Why doesn’t Kubota put a good air ride seat on a bx like they do on the big zero turn mower. I’m going to put a air ride seat from a bad boy mower on my bx because Kubota wants $ 2000 for the complete air ride seat

@unclealansyard5176 10 месяцев назад

I'm 6'6 so this might be a good fit for me! But I doubt it fit on my BX2200 lol! But hey! Least you tired and attempted. Try try again lol! You should have put that seat on tractor tim with Tim's excavator lol.

@F150customs 10 месяцев назад

Try a low rider base seat…

@randybarrett1860 10 месяцев назад

The only solution is an attachment to the rear of the seat.

@Brandon_B. 10 месяцев назад

😆

@AiShadowyGuy 10 месяцев назад

It's ashamed the newer tractors don't hold up like the old ones. I also don't agree with how Kubota deals with engines, the only way to get an engine is to drill multiple holes in the block ruining it. Because they really don't want anyone remanning the engines which is infuriating, as a diesel shop owner it kills any money that could have been saved doing work for customers and family. The prices are also ridiculous, everything usually has to be ordered especially for seals, way better off getting part numbers and doing a price comparison. I used to love Kubota but if you split enough of them apart and do your own mechanic work you'll know exactly what I mean :/

@MessicksEquip 10 месяцев назад

drilling holes in the block is mandated by EPA. Every company does that. Its so prior tier engines do not grow in circulation.

@AiShadowyGuy 10 месяцев назад

@@MessicksEquip Sounds like an excuse more than a reason. It's unfortunate most newer Kubota's are just toys.

@JCLawn51 10 месяцев назад

In the great words of Joe Biden, Come on man! Ill give you 2 options of air ride that will work. ZTR Puffer, is currently out of stock so not sure what is going on with the company. The other option is Grammer has air ride skid steer seats that are low profile. Looks like about $1200 for that option.