Hi, from memory, I think that the Daisy company produced over 20,000 of these rifles but ceased production when it was pointed out by the government agency that the company did not have a licence to manufacture firearms! Cheers mate. Harera
This second video makes me wish that gun makers would offer rifles like this once more. The concept is worth looking into since ammo would probably turn out to be cheaper. Great video SIR!! WELL DONE!!
I believe once the ATF determined this was a firearm in the late ‘60’s Daisy stopped making them I do think they later did make some regular .22 LR rifles I’ve read the problem the military had with case less ammo was with the guns over heating. Apparently ejecting the spent hot brass help with cooling
Cool rifle. Same concept as “dieseling” an air rifle where you put some combustible oil behind the pellet and let the pressure ignite it for a decent gain in velocity
I use to have one of these back in the early 70's when i was a teenager, i have no idea what happened to it, .... what i do remember was shooting a pheasant while in flight with it.
Fascinating. Doesn’t matter what it looks like, the second I heard Daisy, I automatically thought pellet gun. Did you ever try jamming a 22 pellet into it to see if it works?
That's about right. Maybe you've seen one of those experimental engines that runs on solid fuel - this rifle is something like that. The key is the high temperature from compressed air - but I think you get that. Cheers.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Yep, but daisy put a one way ball bearing "baffle" in so that compressed gasses from the piston move it forward and go round it to ignite the charge upon which the ball baring would then be forced backward to seal off the air chamber protect the piston head. Neat system.
Good, informative video USOG! I recall seeing those advertised and tested by a staff writer in "American Rifleman" magazine many years ago. I thought it was a silly idea, {due to the "caseless ammo"}. Looks like it might be a good gun on the back porch to "keep the fox out of the hen house". Glad to hear that it is accurate. I don't think that I have ever seen the ammo for those anywhere ---( I was not looking for it ,,,, but I was not looking for 8mm Nambu pistol ammo either but have seen that at a Gun show --- 🙃 😉 ). As a former Infantryman I can very much understand why caseless ammo was never adopted by the military: It would get wet and be worthless. We operated in rain, snow, mud, wind, ice, extreme heat, humidity. Military ammo from the factory has a liquid sealer applied at the primer end of the cartridge and at the mouth where the bullet sits to keep the powder dry. That caseless ammo would be a soggy mess.
New to me for sure. And yes, funny it hasn't caught on or been developed further. Basically how some field artillery works. I recall during my time in the military being behind a line of M109 self-propelled howitzers. The shells (projectiles) are loaded into the breech first, then a sectioned powder bag behind it. Not sure how it was primed exactly, I think the primer was in the mechanism that seals the breech. Sections of powder could be removed to vary the range of the projectile. The removed powder bag sections were not re-used but discarded & burned.
So interesting. I think someone wrote me that they do have a primer - maybe electic somehow. Maybe someone could write us. I checked Wiki etc... and they don't say.
Daisy got in trouble with these because they didn't realize that it would be legally classified as a firearm. technically since these do function by dieseling a spring air rifle you can shoot .22 pellets out of them like an air rifle, but it's not going to be very powerful. eventually they offered a couple of inexpensive .22lr rifles in the 80's but I don't know if they got an FFL or contracted production out to somebody else.
AAI & General Dynamics have perfected military caseless ammo and offer a family of weapons for them. The Army seems to have changed the rules and wants significantly more power than their 5.56 & 7.62 analog ammo.
When i was a teenager who was into guns but couldn't get real ones, i was really into airguns. I heard of these and really wanted one, but realized that it was actually a firearm... An air actuated firearm... And couldnt get one.
Aw that’s really nice would love one over here in Scotland over my 22 pneumatic air rifle I wonder if those round would fire in a .22 air rifle with the compressed air behind the round ???
An interesting rifle and demonstration. Makes me wonder if the caseless ammunition could be used in a break barrel 22 pellet gun (Spring or pneumatic). Would depend on the ignition temperature I suppose.
I am trying to get some of my chemist friends to invent 3d printable smokeless powder. It is certainly NOT out of the question. It just takes some experimentation.
Here is a quote from the web that is pretty good: Temperature is proportional to the average kinetic energy of molecules and pressure is the force applied to the molecules. If you add more pressure, the molecules will move faster or collide with each other and this will result in increase in temperature.
