Akko V3 Cream Yellow vs. V3 Yellow PRO | Comparison Typing Test  

Same for me! Especially after I expected the Pros to be at least that creamy as the OGs - I'll stick with the OGs But if ever I want a clacky build, the Pros will be my absolute go-to switches :D

Yeah same

​@thoccnology was this video used with factory lubed switches? Because mine (even though I asked for stock) got pre lubed on amazon

Thank you! I prefer them too! I expected the pro to be the creamy switches as the non-pro and I'm still a bit upset about the big difference (so I haven't used them since the review.. :/)

@@thoccnologyare they lubed?

@@_GorillaThunder_ Yes, both are lubed!

dude you have a dirty mind

Like what?

@@idanesquivel487 clapping

nahh you're just dirty minded this does not sound like cheeks clapping 💀

? It’s too fast anyway

Yes, exactly!

Ye lol 😂 just ordered a pack today!

No; it is simply derived from two factors: the keycaps, or the surface you put the keyboard on.

@@hdhrhsk Well.. you suggest that there's no difference in two completely different (in build, design, materials) switches? There'll be some surprises in this hobby then! Also: the board and even the applied mods are important factors in the sound profile. This comparison is EXACTLY about eliminating these factors: it's the SAME board, SAME keycaps, SAME desk, SAME deskmat, SAME microphone in the SAME position.

⁠@@thoccnologywhat case and keycaps do you have for this build?

Then it was the perfect decision! ^^

@@thoccnology I heard that the pros come without the ticking of the non pros and the lubing job is much better

@@luner_ghast6856 without the ticking, and without the creaminess too.. they are like two completely different switches, the pro is clacky and loud the lubing is very welcomed, but they should've given a different name to them :)

@@thoccnology dAMM FR? they are not creamy?

@@luner_ghast6856 not really.. check out my detailed review on them ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3n2Y0zfvqjw.html I'm sure you'll hear how big the difference is, even where I'm just pushing them in my hands

You're absolutely right, all of them became the clackier and louder version of their OGs. But it's not neccessarily a bad thing, a lot of people prefer a clacky sound profile (I also have my clacky favorites ngl :)). I just can't get my head around why they stuck to the predecessors' naming, it could've been a nice, dedicated, new product line on its own. Also: I'm very tempted by the Neo65 (that, and the neo70 offer such yellow options that are not commonly available in other keebs) - are you satisfied with your neo65? Happy New Year! ^^

@@thoccnology I love my Neo65, it's been my primary for the past 4 months or so. I got purple and put PBTfans Sabarushi on it and it's stunning. I do which it had a knob but I just remapped a couple of keys. Very impressed with the Neo/QK line Trying to decide right now if I want to get the QK65v2, QK75N or one of the new Neo70s or 80s. I too which I could get the old ones as well. I do love the new ones but I would definitely like some original Piano Pros for the Neo65. Like you I'm not sure why they couldn't make both. If you haven't tried the Epomaker Peace Lilly switches they are very similar to the original Piano Pro in sound and feel. I have those in my GMMK Pro and they are loud but very deep and thocky. As they are made by Akko I believe I have to wonder if they aren't off the old Piano Pro mold in some way. Happy New Year to you as well, looking forward to your continued content in 2024!

@@MarbsMusic Same here, knobs are so essential for me too! The QK75N would be the best, but I really hope Neo will also announce a 75% (with knob) in the near future! Not long ago I heard that Akko changed manufacturers for their switches (now it's Outemu), so I think they went for Outemu's best molds, which happen to be completely different from the previous ones. :/ Sadly. Oh, I haven't heard of the Peace Lily before, I really like the colors and to see they offer it for a budget price. Next time I order from Epomkaer, I'll definitely drop them into the cart!

Wow, that's a lot of try! I feel the same - I'm always looking for something new AND better, but this switch has been a staple favorite since I have it. Thanks for your valuable insights, I haven't had the chance to try all your mentioned switches, so it was very informative - but now I know that they won't replace the Cream Yellows as the creamy TOP1. :)

@@thoccnology A close second would be the oil kings! The only reason they arent in my other keyboard is because they dont allow LEDS to pass thru. And im always in low light. I dont run RGB but i do always run white LEDS

@@thoccnology Also one other switch i really am willing to try are the KTT kang whites! have you had the chance to try those out yet? I saw a Mamoth 75 build with them and they seem like they could be a close runner up! But again... as tried and true as the cream yellows are id probably get them and have the same outcome as all the rest lol

@@captainshoopip6580 I can see your point - I just discovered some switches with RGB diffusors equipped, and they are such a game changer for rgb uses.

@@captainshoopip6580 To be honest I wasn't amazed by the Kang Whites. Somehow they are too wobbly-feel to me - and definitely not creamy, even lubed (I guess it has something to do with the stems - different composition of materials and/or a slightly smaller form..)

Sounds really good! ^^ which board did you choose for the build? (Also I feel you, gradually I grew to hate lubing, soooo time consuming 😅)

@@thoccnology CIY Tester68! I know its cheap, but I find it perfect for me especially Im still new at this keyboard modding scene and I dont want to spend large amount of money for my first custom/self-mod keyb lol

@@yhnshkn That's an absolutely perfect decision! At some point I had two Tester68s, and was quite happy with them ^^ one of the best super-budget options :)

hey man im trying to build my first keyboard, i ordered a gmk67 with cream yellow PRO one with SA profile keycap, but after i look through i see that PRO are usually clackier and higher pitch than the non PRO one, how is yours going, is it the deep thock kinda of sound?

@@itsnotleobruh so did you install the pros into the gmk67? If you did are they "thocky?"

Hey!! Yes, they are! But in my full review I compared the unlubed versions too, if that's of any interest ^^ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3n2Y0zfvqjw.html

@@thoccnologythis is exactly what i was looking for! tyyyyyyy

Akko confirmed they have no intention to bring back the non-Pros. unfortunately. :/

@@thoccnology oh thtas sad but thanks for leting me know!

My favorite is also the original! ^^

The factory lube is good quality, I myself prefer deeper sounding switches, but if you don't mind high-pitched and can find them for cheap, they're good switches! If you're looking for deeper sounding switches, I have reviewed quite a lot of them (some of them are only $0.16 per piece), so feel free to check them out!

Tho lavenders are purple - are you sure you want to compare different kind of switches? :)

@@thoccnology yes plsss, im a newbie here doesnt know the difference tho ;(

no, the mic is fixed - I just move the camera

The mic is the same - also in the same position, so not the sound quality. :) They used different materials and switch design, hence the difference! For gaming both are perfect - the Pro version might be slightly better (the dustproof stem and the 5-pin design results in more stability) The Pros are much louder - even after re-lubing them by hand.

Switches don't really have delay value, it mostly depends only on the keyboard. But based on the actuation distance, it's a standard 2.0mm

You can find them on en.akkogear.com or akkogear.de (depending on your location). They should fit, yes!

Yes, the Pro comes factory-lubed!

i'm pretty sure they discontinued them! it would have been nice to have options tho.

@@mazumai no FREAKIN WAY! Dude I will never find any other stock switches as creamy as those ones😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@@mazumai Also do you know if the feker matcha switches are good for gaming?

@@carterbyrd7111 Maybe they will bring them back if enough people want them! And I recently built a keyboard for someone with those switches and I noticed they felt a bit heavy. So I'm not sure if they would be that great for gaming because they require a bit more force to press. But I think there's a lot of preference involved and also it would depend on the kind of games you're playing! I like to recommend Akko CS Silvers to people for FPS or MOBA gaming. They sound great and have lower actuation for fast presses. I think the newer version comes pre-lubed as well but I haven't tried those. Sorry for the long message, hope this helps!

They seem to be discontinued, sadly :/

They are different in a lot of ways, for me the original yellows are superior But please check out my in-depth review for them: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3n2Y0zfvqjw.html

It's a Monsgeek M1 and the keycaps are HoneyMilk XDA keycaps. You can find the links for the parts in the Description :)

@@thoccnologyemm interesting, I don’t see a white model like this

@@spicy_wizard Unfortunately the white has been discontinued. If you'd like to stick with a White Alu 75% board, I'd suggest the Leobog Hi75 - it has an insane amount of thock for a budget price (I just tested it with 3 different switches and all of them were honestly surprising)

Ooh, that's a tough one! Try to push the stems to the side of the housing, and get a really fine brush with a tiny amount of lube into the space between the stem and the housing. Then repeat on the other side too.

@@thoccnology Thanks!

They'll always be quite clacky. But the PC plate might help that, and using as many of the foams you mentioned can also be useful.

@@thoccnology tbh they sound thock now since my case is plastic with eva foam 2mm i did put polyfill with it but it just made it kinda poppy or clacky sound but once i took off the polyfill in the case it sound different i already lubed the switches too with krytox 205g0 and 105g0 on the spring but i wanna make it sound more deeper thock

@@davey5807 I see, you can try further experimenting with the foams for a deeper thock, but I think that deepness has its limitations in certain materials, etc. But that you could achieve thock on its own is pretty good too! :)

@@thoccnology yup thats why i wanna replace the plate since im limited now to it that's the only option i have right now i can't achieve the sound cause of the aluminium plate

@@davey5807 Ah, yes, alu plate is the worst for deep thocks. Hope the PC plate will solve it for you! ^^

You mean the extra 2 plastic legs on the PRO switches? You can cut them off (only the 2 small plastic legs! The metal ones are needed for functioning)

They are the Honey Milk XDA Japanese Keycap Set (with 10% OFF using THOCC10) bit.ly/Honey_Milk_JP_Keycaps

I totally share your frustration. The non-Pro was such a great product line. As far as I know, the only vendor who still has the Cream Yellows in stock is Pryzma.io (Unfortunately no info on the matchas)

@@thoccnology ty but i would have to Pay more shipping than the actual switches cost 😅

@@Max_W02 Oh, I see, so you're not from the US either - then I feel your pain in this too x)

The non-Pros. But they seem to be discontinued. My recent choice for budget creamy is the MZ Z1 switches.

the ultimate thocc 😁

@@thoccnology Are these indeed the "ultimate thocc" switches, at least from Akko? How does it compare to the Akko CS Jelly black? Also, what is the deepest sounding switch in your experience (regardless of the amount of sound)?

@@JaihindhReddy Hey, sorry, didn't get any notification about your comment. I think yes, these are the thockiest switches from Akko. The Jelly Blacks have a more plasticky sound for me. The deepest might be the Vertex V One, one of my favs for this reason. :)

The Pros have a very definitive and loud clack when touching the top housing, that might sound like tactile-ish to some ears. (The original Cream Yellows don't have this.)

Yes, it has cutouts for the LEDs

I'm not really sure! If the E-Yoosoo support 5-pin switches, than yes - otherwise I'd say no (it's too much work to solve the compatibility issues)

It's the HoneyMilk XDA profile ^^ bit.ly/Honey_Milk_JP_Keycaps

That'll be a tough job with the PROs. If the SA keycaps are very thick, and definitely lube the switches again by yourself and a tape mod might help it. Also maybe try to add some more foaming to the gmk67 bottom case (or replace the stock foaming to a thicker one).

@@thoccnology will adding a thicker layer of foam help to deepen the sound? im trying to research now on what mod i can use to make the sound deeper, im planning to do the tape mod but that is only mod i know to help deepen the sound

​​⁠in short: yes 😊 in detail: different foam densities absorb different wavelength, so that's the field that needs to be further researched (I'm not that great of an expert in acoustics, and I lack of access to good quality foams - and ordering online is always a hassle in regards of expectation/reality) but in general filling the case with any kinds of foam helps to reduce the sound 😊

yep thankyou for your information :)@@thoccnology

@@itsnotleobruh sure, no problem! ^^

Unfortunately Akko discountinued them permanently. Pryzma.io still has some stock as far as I know!

@@thoccnology dang that sucks, the non-pro ones sound much better to me

@@boredkid50 Yeah, a LOT of people agree with you in that :/ They were 100x better switches than the PROs.

They're discontinued unfortunately!

@@thoccnologyoh thanks 🙏

@@thoccnology NOOOOO!!! I really wanted to get them these days... So I can only get the cream yellow pros now?

@@MangoGalaxyYT If you prefer the non-Pros, try the MZ Z1 switches, they're almost identical with them. (I also included a comparison in my MZ Z1 video, and I think it easily can be used a replacement for the non-pros)

Aww noooo :C

The Pros are factory-lubed, the non-pros are manually lubed. The board has all foams and no tape mod :)

@@thoccnology okay so which ones are more thocky or should I say creamier

@@thoccnology the non pros sound deeper ngl or does it sound diff on camera

@@thoccnology okay Ty so much I’m going to invest in the creamy yellows. Just one more question can you suggest me a keyboard to put the switches in because I don’t know what there called 😭

Like a 60% one if possible

HoneyMilk XDA profiles I bought them here: bit.ly/Honey_Milk_JP_Keycaps (10% off using THOCC10 coupon at the checkout)

The Pro version come pre-lubed

@@thoccnology Thankyou 🙏

Yes, far more louder!

I have a feeling that Akko discontinued the production of them - so there's only some leftover stock at some vendors. Unfortunately.

@@thoccnology nooooo! 😖 do you know any of this vendors? Can you share a link 🙏🏽?

@@johnnybluezz the only place where I saw more stock is Pryzma www.pryzma.io/products/switches/akko-v3-cream-yellow And for EU maybe Candykeys with very limited stock: candykeys.com/product/akko-v3-cream-yellow-switch

@@thoccnology you are a saver! 🙏🏽💙

@@thoccnology oh my god, I live in Switzerland... there's no stock in candykeys :S

It's Honey Milk XDA ( I used this one: bit.ly/Honey_Milk_JP_Keycaps )

Yes, exactly! ^^

They're the perfect choice for you then! :-) A nice, definitive clacky sound!

Yes, the OGs are hand-lubed, the Pros are factory-lubed

Yes, they are - the original version is hand-lubed, the PRO version is factory lubed

ty@@thoccnology

It's been like that for months, I've been waiting and waiting and it's never in stock. Apparently they're discontinued. What a great switch, I don't know why they did that. It's okay, there are other alternatives, but I specifically wanted these for their price.

LOL, that's too accurate 🤣 I knew I heard that sound before!

The Originals are hand-lubed and Pros are stock (factory-lubed)

@@thoccnology ty, i now decided to buy the pros just cuz they pop

@@thoccnology should i sub?

@@r.carlosbrawlstars4841 that's one thing they really do! pop and clack ^^

@@r.carlosbrawlstars4841 haha, it's totally up to you! :-) though if you do, I can promise a lot of videos coming

It's a Monsgeek M1 (all-foam, tape modded, lubed stabs) with HoneyMilk XDA keycaps

@@thoccnologyif you don’t mind me asking how much was the total build?

@@ajgamerx6566 Sure, no problem! It's somewhere around $150 - depending on coupon codes, etc. (More if you go for a pre-built M1)

@@thoccnology hey have you ever review the Akko MOD 007 PC the prebuilt blue and white one if so is it good for 100?

@@ajgamerx6566 Hey, no, unfortunately haven't had the chance to try them, but heard a lot of good about the MOD007!

I can 100% agree! It was a great switch - so bad that Akko decided to discontinue them... :/

If you're aiming for a creamy, not loud keyboard, I'd go with the lubed Milky Yellows. Or just dropping the kinda-overpriced switches and go with the MZ Z1 switches, which are perfect replacements for the OG Cream Yellows.

yeah, and the original version was actually even cheaper, only $8.99 on the Akko's site, but it seems to be discontinued :/

Pro: factory-lubed (stock) Non-pro: hand-lubed by me