Alan Gordon: Stop Chronic Pain 

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Do you think this is the same approach as Dr. Sarno? Apart from the mindbody aspect, this seems different. I notice Dr Gordon seemed to go out of his way not to mention what book it was his mom recommended. I assumed it was Dr. Sarno's but maybe not. Mayim mentions Dr. Sarno a few times, but Dr Gordon, conspicuously, does not.

Hmm, I have go re-listen. I just assumed they all are Dr sarno messengers. After all, he was the pioneer. It's the same message. Maybe some differences. I think these current Dr's & psychologists sharing updated info, some stress somatic, some journal, different tools to use. But it's all same message from what I glean

@@kazzey888 Definitely the same general message, but A Gordon seems to be organized around fear, safety and his somatic-tracking. No mention of pain as distraction from repressed anger/emotions (to paraphrase Sarno drastically), which is a big part of Dr. Sarno’s approach. I was really hoping he’d discuss how he arrived at his variation of Dr. Sarno’s method, but he seems deliberately mum on the subject here and in The Way Out. It’s a great book, but as a TMSer I’m finding it difficult to adjust to it.

@Karen Isaacs thank you so much for sharing !

Good luck, I am one of those people Dr Sarno saved. I had increasing chronis pain for 20 years, it got to a point when I tried to commit suicide. Finally about a month ago I discovered TMS and Dr Sarno and my life has changed to much, I've gone from spending all day laid out on the floor in pain to running and cycling. I'm so frustrated, not at anyone personally just that I was not told about this before.

Thank You for this post

This is amazing! Were you able to go back to practicing dentistry?

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@@bassman3212 This was my question too!!

@@Marky, that’s amazing! 🎉🎉 We are curious what you are now doing! Did you start up your practice again?

Thank You for posting this. I find it encouraging you were able to reach 80%

Not only pain! So many other symptoms

Sarno personally treated 4 friends / acquaintances of mine.

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Same!!!

Same!

Agree!

SAME OMG ❤

Yea he is so soothing

It's evolving and refining just like Sarno himself did while living

I am a fast talker too and have chronic back pain. I need to slow down.

¿Y cómo te ha ido dos años después?

It work! still baffled how. I'm not questioning being pain free

I've healed 43 years of migraines with this know (Dan buglio, Nicole sachs,) do a deep dive on all this & you'll see so many improvements

Have you gotten the book? And if so, how has it been going for you?

Trauma survival is likely why you make a good Nurse. Kudos for your strength 💪

Most of the more severe illnesses happen to people by surprise, unexpectantly, impacting first in the brain, then in the corresponding organ which that part of the brain controls. The end of WWI had absolutely everything to do with the Flu and lung TB outbreak that occurred killing millions. In nature, the biological conflict linked with a territorial fear (just what it means-a fear in your territory, your home, your community, etc.) is a widening of the bronchia (tissue loss). Your body attempts to widen your bronchia in order to allow more air into your lungs to give you more strength and energy to fight to keep your territory safe. Stay with me.......The biological conflict linked with a death fright impacts the lungs. The lungs attempt to grow larger in order to allow more air in because breath equals life, as we all know. No breath equals death. While you are in the fear or death fright conflict, you notice no symptoms of “disease”, except you have cold hands, cold feet, you can’t sleep, you awaken at 3 AM every night, you have little appetite. During the war, millions of people were in fear of the bombing of their homes and cities where the war was most active. Fearing for their lives, their loved ones in the war, their ability to survive. The food in the stores was sparse due to shortages. This lasted for 4 long years! The longer the conflict, the worse the healing phase. Within 2 weeks of the German Chancellor announcing the end of WWI, these millions of people ALL went into the healing phase all at the same time. It is during the healing phase that you experience symptoms of illness! What is the healing phase of the bronchia widening? Severe bronchitis, pneumonia. The body attempts to refill this lost tissue and you experience inflammation, fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. What is the healing phase of the extra lung tissue that grew? Decomposing of the tissue by TB bacteria and fungi. The symptoms of this healing phase are: severe coughing up of blood and tissue, fever, inflammation, severe mucous, body aches, fatigue. During this decomposing of the extra tissue (tumor), the body expels a lot of protein, and without replenishment, severe protein loss can result in death. Antibiotics did not exist yet. If TB bacteria does not exist in a person or they have been vaccinated against TB (big mistake), then the tumor will simply encapsulate and become dormant and not harm you. Who died during the Spanish Flu? Mainly the poor who could not afford to buy meat and proper nourishment, and the people who were directly impacted by the bombings and destruction of their homes. Millions of people suffered fear and death frights during the fighting of WWI, and millions of people all went into healing at the end of it. Not everyone was affected because not everyone suffered the same way. It’s not a “flu”, it’s not something you “catch”. It’s biological, meaningful, and unavoidable. One hundred years later, a Fear Campaign begins, using the media to spread it......

The amount of arthritis does not always correspond to the amount of pain you have. Your pain may be entirely appropriate, even though the arthritis doesn't show much. It also depends on who's reading the tests. Turns out my "moderate" arthritis is actually end stage and my GP let me down. They should have been able to do better reading the x-ray. Be careful with psychiatry. They have no diagnostic tests. They made up names for behaviors and voted them in the DSM

Listen to Nicole sachs podcast

Standard practice in pain diagnosis, at least nowadays, is to check for lime disease. It typically is in the second round of test when the main culprits are ruled out. I remember being in so much pain and wanting a diagnosis that I was hoping my test results came back positive for lyme disease. It didn't.

Same way no matter the symptoms!

I would probably read The Mindbody Prescription first to give you an idea about how there is a connection with the mind and the body. Then I would read Alan’s book.

So glad this one resonated with you. Thanks very much for sharing, and for being here! 🧠🫶

Most of the more severe illnesses happen to people by surprise, unexpectantly, impacting first in the brain, then in the corresponding organ which that part of the brain controls. The end of WWI had absolutely everything to do with the Flu and lung TB outbreak that occurred killing millions. In nature, the biological conflict linked with a territorial fear (just what it means-a fear in your territory, your home, your community, etc.) is a widening of the bronchia (tissue loss). Your body attempts to widen your bronchia in order to allow more air into your lungs to give you more strength and energy to fight to keep your territory safe. Stay with me.......The biological conflict linked with a death fright impacts the lungs. The lungs attempt to grow larger in order to allow more air in because breath equals life, as we all know. No breath equals death. While you are in the fear or death fright conflict, you notice no symptoms of “disease”, except you have cold hands, cold feet, you can’t sleep, you awaken at 3 AM every night, you have little appetite. During the war, millions of people were in fear of the bombing of their homes and cities where the war was most active. Fearing for their lives, their loved ones in the war, their ability to survive. The food in the stores was sparse due to shortages. This lasted for 4 long years! The longer the conflict, the worse the healing phase. Within 2 weeks of the German Chancellor announcing the end of WWI, these millions of people ALL went into the healing phase all at the same time. It is during the healing phase that you experience symptoms of illness! What is the healing phase of the bronchia widening? Severe bronchitis, pneumonia. The body attempts to refill this lost tissue and you experience inflammation, fever, coughing, body aches, fatigue, etc. What is the healing phase of the extra lung tissue that grew? Decomposing of the tissue by TB bacteria and fungi. The symptoms of this healing phase are: severe coughing up of blood and tissue, fever, inflammation, severe mucous, body aches, fatigue. During this decomposing of the extra tissue (tumor), the body expels a lot of protein, and without replenishment, severe protein loss can result in death. Antibiotics did not exist yet. If TB bacteria does not exist in a person or they have been vaccinated against TB (big mistake), then the tumor will simply encapsulate and become dormant and not harm you. Who died during the Spanish Flu? Mainly the poor who could not afford to buy meat and proper nourishment, and the people who were directly impacted by the bombings and destruction of their homes. Millions of people suffered fear and death frights during the fighting of WWI, and millions of people all went into healing at the end of it. Not everyone was affected because not everyone suffered the same way. It’s not a “flu”, it’s not something you “catch”. It’s biological, meaningful, and unavoidable. One hundred years later, a Fear Campaign begins, using the media to spread it......

Hello 👋 how are you doing today?..

@@bryancleveland6013 😂 hello Always a good day to be alive, right?

@@summerdais325 yeah. Nice meeting you. Where do you live. I have to say you have a beautiful smile and a lovely name

@@summerdais325 Do you have a library nearby? If so, go there first as it may have his book, in any case checkout doctor/author Jon Kabat-Zinn. He has several books out, all widely respected , some bestsellers, titles include “Full Catastrophe Living” and “Wherever you go, There you Are”, but ANY book by him will give you a great understanding and “how-to” on mindfulness for pain, depression, ptsd, ocd, etc. Best Wishes!

Hey 👋🏼 did the curable app work well for you, I have neuroplastic pain and am considering paying for the app but the cost does come into it as I'm not working and trying to find out if it's worth me investing in right now or if jus maybe purchasing Alan's book the way out would be jus as beneficial? X

@@cherise93 yes it did! I spent years in debilitating pain, which basically morphed into fibro symptoms and fatigue. Curable, along with Alan Gordon’s work and that of Nicole Sachs has completely changed my life! I’m back working again, on my feet all day. I’m back living my life after feeling completely helpless and hopeless. It’s not a quick process and there are ups and downs, and it’s hard work at times, but yes, I really recommend curable.

@@katamarigemson3068 thank you for responding I'm so glad your bk living life again like that. It's incredible. That's what I was told fibro & CFS but I know it's mind body pain it's obvious so I'm on the right track ..like u say it's work n it's patience & commitment to it but it will pay off. So I keep going. N I'll pay for the curable app then. Thank you & blessings 🙏🏽