Alanis Morissette: Self-Care is No Longer a Luxury 

This conversation was so engaging and so REAL. I wish people focused and talked to her more about her second album, Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie, as I think there is a lot to unpack and learn from there as well. Alanis is such a gift to the world and such a talented songwriter.

I love when you have people like Alanis on and they share how deep they really are!

Mayim fangirling is my favorite. You Live, you learn. Oh hell yeah, crying and singing at the top of my lungs. Alanis has given us anthems that are not constricted by time. At least not yet. They are still timely.

"How 'bout me not blaming you for everything How 'bout me enjoying the moment for once How 'bout how good it feels to finally forgive you How 'bout grieving it all one at a time Thank you thank you silence" "Thank you thank you silence"

A fellow Ottawa native, I have always appreciated Alanis, loved, as a younger adult, the power of Jagged Little Pill and continued messages she has conveyed about art, health, fame and the person you want to be in life. LOVE.

It is really great seeing two beautiful women talk for an hour. Thank you, Mayim, for having Alanis on today, you two are such a delight. These podcasts are the best part of my week!

Alanis is absolutely amazing...a monthly podcast with Alanis and Mayim would be 🔥!

My girl, Alanis Morissette! Her music carried me through so many emotionally charged times, good and bad. Mayim, while you were speaking about lyrics, I got chills. I've been like that my whole life and didn't realize that other people have that reaction to music. One song in particular, a few lines from the song "Uninvited": "You - you're not allowed, you're uninvited, an unfortunate slight." I would loudly sing those words, like I was saying it to the person who took away my innocence. It feels empowering. Thanks, Mayim, Jonathan and Alanis.

Two of my 90s favorites together 😍

I felt this episode from the top of my head to the tips of my toes. "Jagged Little Pill" is one of my favourite albums of all time. "You Learn", "One Hand In My Pocket" - were part of my life's soundtrack as a teen. Alanis is embodied magic. Thanks for having her on!

Thank you for bringing up that meditation is not always for everyone.

I'm totally joining Mayim in fan-girling over Alanis Morisette. Jagged Little Pill came out when I was 15 and it truly was the first time I heard a woman singing an angry song in an angry voice and it was amazing 🤩. I love all of Alanis's work and consider her influential to the woman I am today. So happy to see her and Mayim discussing mental health!

The thing I love most about Alanis, aside from her incredible talent, is that she is a fellow HSP. I remember very vividly when I was in therapy in California, and my counselor lent me a copy of Elaine Aron's great book, and I felt like it explained sooooo many things to me about myself that I had spent so many years struggling with.

It is better to be enlightened later in life than not at all..❤

I love Alanis. She is awesome and fellow Canadian. Love her music. She actually started on the show you can’t do that on television when she was younger. Love her song Ironic.

ALANISSSSSSSS! I really can’t decide if I’ve learned more from her songs or her words… whatever.. her voice, her soul… I’ve never learned more from any human 🤍✨

That song, “You Learn” Sounds like you might have a past life experience of a burning structure. Goosebumps!❗️

I love Alanis Morrisette! What a lovely dialogue between the three of you. And I have to say Mayim, your rendition of those lyrics was beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. I love how you explained how your brain intakes music differently than other forms of input. Another excellent episode on the books!

I loved Alanis as a child (i'm 38 now) and I am obsessed with her meditation album. it was exactly what i needed!!!!!

not me having a breakthrough while Mayim is taking about disordered eating and anger..... I love this episode so so much I cannot even put it into words. My favorite artist of all time on my favorite podcast of all time! just phenomenal.

She is my adolescence! I could totally hug her!!

I'm a 32 year old man and I love Alanis Morissette to the point that I have a full tattoo sleeve dedicated to her. I am obsessed and I check out anything that she does and that's why I came here! She is GOD

I've been her fan for about 4 or 5 years (yet not from the very beginning) and I must admit she never failed to amaze me with her wisdom and insightful thinking. Perhaps such people (or celebs) are quite rare, but I believe we can learn a lot from them and that they are fun to be with.

I love Alanis, so real and pure. God gave her so much natural talent, and one of the things that make her a beautiful person is her still being humble. I think she could carry on a conversation with anyone. :) Great show and great interview, Mayim.

As a present for finishing middle school, my parents bought me my first CD player along with Jagged Little Pill. I played that CD so much that it nearly broke. What a powerhouse of a record. Also, this interview seemed too short. I checked the time, and there are 20 minutes of just Mayim and Jonathan talking at the end! I wish there had been more Alanis.

I recently re- watched the movie Dogma, which is a memorable comedy that's also a theological revealing masterwork. And the part of God is played by 'surprise ' Alanis Morissette. She is the image of the Creator for me now. Great interview!

Alanis is a great infj and speaks from the heart. If you want to know how infjs minds work this is a great video

I feel the same about You Learn, Mayan! … “just because I can’t meet someone’s needs, doesn’t make them needy”

I chilled as you sang those lines from that song, Mayim. I am 76 and had never heard of the song, Suit of Lights. I did learn years ago that the composers of "funeral songs" use chords that will make you cry, to assist with the grieving process. So maybe that is what happened here. The human body is amazing with the way it can respond to certain vibrations. In the book "Fork in the Road", (about tuning forks), some of this is explained. 🥰

Tuesday is my Therapy day in more ways than one. I go see my therapist and I watch you. Another wonderful episode. Sending gratitude to both of you for making these. Alanis twas sensation. 💙🌈💙.

Alanis is a great writer! She is saying so much with only a few words. I respect her artistry!

Somehow I knew that behind the “All I Really Want” author there’re a great human being with a very well furnished head. So thankful for these other two exceptional souls behind this podcast for bringing and ”de-construct” Alanis so, so well. And Mayim..how I adore you singing!!! Quoting same Alanis lyrics: “It’s all I really want, some patience A way to to calm me down And I I want is deliverance A place to find a common ground” That’s what this podcast is to me..between lot other things.💜

Thank you alanis.your energy is unbelievable... Fill it. Omri

Mayim, you're interviewing is so skillful. Authentic, considerate, present. This convo fills me with inspiration.

This is my favourite episode yet. I was raised on Alanis. When I hear her music I feel it in my body, in the way that I can only compare to the way I feel rage. In my bones, in my history, in my very existence. I LOVE HER ART! And I loved this discussion, thank you❤️

She was on the scene before 1995. Those of us in Ottawa will remember a fun program from CJOH TV - Bushnell communications. That program called - You Can’t Do that onTV that she was in.

I’ve been smiling like an idiot for the whole length of this episode. I love you. Thank you for this awesome conversation about self exploration, growth, expansion and intentional stillness 🎉 this was a joy!!!!

For me, podcasts are powerful because I get to learn so much more about celebrities, mental health experts and artists. I realize they decide how to answer questions, but your ability, Mayim, to draw out answers from which we can learn is amazing. I believe your honesty about your personal struggles and the other ways in which you lead into questions allows the guests to feel comfortable. These conversations have the feel of "we're all just sitting around and having a small group discussion" even though you have over a million subscribers. Many are careful I'm sure not to say the wrong thing, but it's always fun. I wish you and Jonathan could've talked to Alanis longer.

I really enjoyed the convo at the end about deep rest. I didn’t realize this was a thing lots of people experience, I always called it “resetting my nervous system” - would often happen if I went to nap for 20 mins, wouldn’t fall asleep deeply but I would wake up feeling totally restored. I thought it was just being an HSP thing!

This music is medicine. I will make it back to the podcast, promise. 🧡 Thank you for this.

I wish these podcasts could be much longer! Especially with someone like Alanis. I feel like you all just scratched the surface of what could be an even deeper and more interesting conversation. You all clearly speak the same language and it's so interesting to watch! X

Exactly what Mayim said. From 1993 and after, I felt that Alanis was saying what I wanted to hear and said, every álbum was kinda companion for me in my girl-becoming-a woman years

In true brilliance, an poetic, Alanis fashion, I love how she flipped the saying, and called her new cd, the storm before the calm! She is ineffably brilliant, and if I ever go back to teaching English, I'm going to make her lyrics mandatory, for us, to read, because she is one of the best poets and contemporary, of my time! I love you with all my heart, Alanis🌟🎁🥰🕊️! Your music has been the soundtrack to my 20s, both a glorious and miserable time, but you were the soundtrack to everything I was feeling and living! U've also helped me get through my suffering, with Grace, & u inspired me, to better & more creatively articulate, my range of sentiments & emotions, in my writing of poetry, so Thank You, which is also my anthem song! I am also incredibly humbled by your intelligence & vast knowledge, on any given topic, but you've also inspired me, on my lifelong journey, to deeper spirituality & communion, with the God of all good, not the demigod of this world! I am so excited about this CD & can't wait to hear it & read the liner notes which is my first go to! Thank you so much for unabashedly sharing your raw honesty & conveying your deepest & most personal life experiences that we, as fans, & fellow human kind also appreciate, as we are doing more suffering, than not, in this lunatic asylum, we call earth, the prison planet! Much love & blessings,2 u, & your beautiful family, dear Alanis! 💖🙏🎁🌟🥰🕊️✨💫🌟 ps. Just learning that your name came from the story of Atlantis & a Merman, a Demi god, also named Alanis

Alaniss was, is and will always be so honest and great!!!

OMG MAYIM BIALIK AND ALANIS MORISSETTE

less than 5 minutes in, "the necessity of going inward, restoration, stillness and gentle inquiry in whatever way you feel comfortable and inspired" -- and that, in a nutshell is the amazing inspiration Alanis has been for me over the past 25+ childhood, teen and adulthood years. i could go on and on but i think you all *get it*.

Loved hearing Alanis talk about the enneagram at 37:40 - 4w5s unite! I've loved every song she's ever released and always felt so connected to her lyrics - I think us both being 4w5s has something to do with this.

I have never heard someone speak about the lyrics of music the way you do. That is exactly how I feel. I could talk to you for hours about what the words do. I actually really needed to hear that in this time of my life. Thank you.

My HSP Rolemodel. I always have and always will love Alanis and her music. And I love you both. "Thank you" in particular for adressing the rage. My emotions often are way too intense to function outside of my own personal space. Just knowing that I'm not alone with this "Hulkish" energy which is so intimidating even for myself sometimes is liberating. 💚

You Can't do that on Television was the BEST SHOW EVER!!!!!

I blew out my right eye capillaries screaming at her concert Saturday (10/7) it was weird most people were sitting…AT A CONCERT!!! I love Alanis.

That song "Learn" does that to me everytime too! Specially the fire trucks part omg!!!

Two of my favorite artists / personalities in a room... enjoyed this immensely... both of you, never ever change... so much admiration!!! 😍

My experience with Alanis’ art and existence is so similar to Mayim’s. I connect to Alanis in a way that I haven’t been able to connect to anyone and I’ve only talked to her for 30 sec once!

WOW! There’s so much things amazing in this episode. Both in Alanis part and in MB & JC “solo” part (how much in tune with Jonathan here, btw) that make almost two different episodes in one! As the eternal apprentices of life we’re & as the unfinished “work in progress” (quoting Mayim) we’re till our last breath, armed with great dose of humility & openminded, I sit, listen, learn but mostly ENJOY this 💎gem of podcast! A note: I did once all Enneagram Institute +100 questions. A Type #2 greeting you all!

I deserve a round of self flagellation!…How did I miss this breakdown!? Alanis is just an awesome person….what an Artist! Thank you Mayim!

Not only did Alanis Morisette speak to my soul when I needed it the most, I was always told that I looked like her and to know now that she is an enneagram 4w5, same as me, I am totally shook. Amazing podcast, thank you Mayim.

I'm geeking out like the teen girl I was when I fell in love with Alanis!! Excited!

I love the way she articulates things. Like "we're meant to be projected upon", "invisible loads of moms", "operating from such a flooded space", "can't be left alone because the voices inside get mean", that meditation may not be for everyone, etc. I was like AHA, HMMM, all rings true but I just wouldn't have articulated it that way or even looked at it that way. Like how she was totally understanding with being projected upon, wow, and how she was like, yeah let's shame the ones who can't/do meditate (all in fun) but I love how she's like, ok cool, with everything & just embraces it. I've been really trying to acknowledge my own trauma issues and work on my self healing and it has made me more triggered, resistant, able to identify others trauma behavior & projections which sometimes frustrates me, but her attitude is so chill & cool, like letting it all roll off her back and letting all things just be. I wanna be like that.

I’m 55 and last night I got to the physiological trauma place of ‘I can’t be nice to myself’..felt my throat closing, gagging while Knowing that I Have to meditate and journal. I’ve been crying and really dysregulated bc the self-hatred is So intense. God I hope that I can follow through for Myself. If I had a Professor and an ‘A’ to work for I’d do anything!! I’ve even lived at a Zen monastery! Doing these things for myself….I’m frozen. Plllleeaasseee Harriet, give a damn about YourMyself! 😢💕

OMG! I totally suggested Alanis be on the show!! This is so good. ❤

I got to thank Alanis for introducing me to you mialik, I'm a gay boy 1987, moved a lot growing up, but Alanis has been my favorite singer since before I can remember. First thing I told everyone. Pentecostal Midwestern, Virginia Beach for middle school... And 9/11 then back to the midwest. Basically all that has carried over with technology I'm gratious and thankful for you both! ❤

"just kept showing up and keeping those pictures alive until they manifest," what a fascinating sense, it's essentially what I've been doing too but thankful for her having put it into words! I love Alanis Morissette, this was one of my favorite interviews including two of my favorite people, and I like you Jonathan too!! :)

Exactly, I am a superstar of my own making. And everyone can do the same. Thank you for sharing this information. It is very important. 🔥😇🔥 She's an angel on fire!!! Alanis is this angel 😇

Wow, I love Alanis, and I'm very thankful for this conversation. 🥰

I've been waiting for this one for a long long Time

Anger has its origin in disappointment. If you can figure out why you are disappointed you can diffuse anger and explain the hurt.

Singing along to Cocteau Twins is another level of meditation!! I really appreciate you all mentioning the flooding of emotions that can happen during mediation so that more people are prepared for that jarring surprise.

I went thru my divorce in 1996-1997…my daughters remind me, “mom had Jagged Little Pill on repeat; dad listened to Seal’s Don’t Cry.” You, Alanis, “spoke” loudly to me!

I’m so excited to listen today..without going into great detail, “You outta know” taught me that it was okay, as a girl for me to feel anger, love, attraction, hurt…huge huge fan. Thank goodness for my Tuesday MB ritual, it really gets me through. ❤

Thankyou! Thankyou! Thankyou! So needed!

I started Martial Arts when I was 6. Coincidentally the same age I got my 1st CD being Jagged Little Pill! By 15 I had to "retire" Martial Arts due to back injury from a car accident. I basically went insane from 15-20 until I fpund yoga. Saved my life! I didnt think I would be able to find all of the benefits of martial arts again. Everyone needs to find something that removes stimuli, stops thinkings, and improves breathing. Walking, meditation, running, stretching, anything.

I love Alantis’ support of Marianne Williamson - writing 😊her song. ❤🎉😊

Alanis and Jewel are both incredible singer song writers that are just wonderful people. Both an absolute inspiration. Great interview

Beautiful! It was so great seeing Alanis after all this time. She is the good witch, isn't she? The conversation between M and J afterwards - cherry on top. Thank you guys

🤯 Wow! Alanis Morissette!!! ❤️❤️❤️ I love her!!!! Thank you Mayim for another awesome guest!!!! Super exciting!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

Something about the chords and lyrics speaks to you primally

another amazing conversation out here healing the world. Alanis is amazing, what's her secret for aging in reverse while still gaining wisdom?

I really needed to hear thank you. It is so nice to hear long strong women in safe space.

I agree. I think most people pass out before rest. I did that alot when first meditating. I love the in-between.

44:34 full body goosebumps when you sang that. I feel a release akin to freedom when I hear those parts.

Her hit Too Hot went platinum in Canada way before jagged little pill. Still my favourite z

4 with a 5 wing, omg! That is SO Alanis, not surprised at allllll! Free-spirited and insightful, but very curious

I loved this episode. fellow Canadian here. The "none of your business" side of me still desperately whats to know who 'You oughta know' is about!!!! Ugh I feel slimy even wondering, yet I really really do.

I learned that the invent of electricity (lights, phones, TVs) has hurt our ability to rest. When there wasn’t electricity, people would sleep on average 8-11 hours due to lack of sunlight for those hours

Greetings and well wishes from this 4w5 in Oregon. This was a much needed exhale, thank you all 🌲🌊❤

"Observing and processing things... bouncing between the micro and macro" Yes!

I agree Mayim! She was ahead of her time with mindfulness. Her podcasts are also fantastic resources. Thank you for everything, Alanis. ❤

What a wonderful conversation. My two favorite people Mayim and Alanis. I loved it!!! 😍😍

OMG. I'm so pleased for this conversation. The first IT job building Linux boxes were assembled while just burning out this cassette. One of my top 3 ever to this day. edit: that's a huge coffee transport system lady.

I feel the same about music. The lyrics and the way it flows just mean so much that alot of ppl (like my soon to be ex husband) never understand why some songs will hit me so emotionally. Jagged little pill came just after high school and all the feelings that come with that album take me right back to that time. At this point I would love to meditate and be at a state of calm. Life gets do chaotic sometimes it feels just so hard to take a breath

You all being able to share and be open, brave and honest is so helpful. I am better able to deal and think through, feel, express.... "all the things". Just so grateful to see this and watcher's appreciate it!

I love you Mayim!!! Jonathan too but you are awesome!!!!

I really wanted this conversation to go on for another 2-3 hours. ❤ Alanis feels like soul family. I just love her. Thank you!

The podcast gives more views to anything and I love it.

I typically don’t comment on how people look but Alanis is positive positively glowing!

This was everything!! Thank you so much for this, Maiyam. I'm so glad you could have Alanis on. Such a great conversation. This has very quickly become one of my favorite channels on here. I'm hooked on your show! ❤️

I used to have jagged little pill on CASSETTE when I had my first car in the 90's. Loved that album. Felt such a rebel rockin out to that. Great interview

Jagged little pill was my favorite album when I was 8. I didn't even understand most of what she was talking about but I just loved it. This talk is amazing.

Amazing episode, as they all are. Thank you for sharing and the clarity in so many things.