Aldrich on CE 

He wasn't really shunned, he was just raised as a daughter because of his affinity for the Moon and Moon Magic/Illusions

TheRealCheddar yes but considering his father is the lord of sunlight, I'm guessing he didn't really appreciate that. also he doesn't have a statue anywhere like gwynevere, not even one that was removed like the firstborn. The firstborn had a ton of statues (which were removed when he did whatever it is that he did), and gwynevere had a giant statue next to her fathers, a giant bedroom, paintings of her everywhere and people loved and worshipped her. When it comes to gwyndolin, it seems like barely anyone is even aware of his existence

which leads me to believe that he was rejected by gwyn

I think that Gwyndolin never wanted a statue in the first place because he was ashamed of his appearance, that's why he is hidden behind a illusory wall and that's also why he created the illusion of Gwynevere in the first place.

Mary McAllister Gwyndolin was the last born of Gwyn's many children.

While possible it is important to note that Gods such as Gwyndolin have persisting effects in the world even after they die,, while you could argue its mechanics however things such as the illusion of Gwynevere and the sun remain after you kill him should you choose to do so in DS1, whats more interesting to ask is how Ornstein and Smough didn't get killed in this timeline yet the flames been linked a few times, as they were essential to the first set of chosen undeads journey.

Gotenks Jr Ornstein IS dead in the DS3 timeline, he left the cathedral seeking the Nameless King and you find his armour set and weapon below the Nameless King's arena, so it's safe to assume that he was killed by the NK as he seems to have gone hollow. Smough's armour set can be acquired after you kill Aldrich but there is no reference to where Smough is or what happened to him.

I more so mean killed by the first set of chosen undead, which would have occurred before he left :P, I am aware of his fate that implies that he may have died and likely did. BUt it is also worth noting he could also have removed his armour and joined the covenant himself.

Gotenks Jr It's plausible, but why would you find his armour on a corpse if he dumped it?

True does add more weight to him being dead, I just like to leave the door open as it is occasionally an oversight, after all souls games a rather difficult in storytelling sometimes as a result of this, that plus thing such as how bosses like Dragonslayer Armour make time lining annoying, as thats implied to potentially be the same armour after being reforged a few times, or it could be the DS2 version, assuming THAT wasn't Ornstein's Armour or even Ornstein himself during the search.

You're right, I didn't notice it before! That's quite... well... so sad. Gwyndolin didn't deserve it at all

Thats because Aldritch isn't finished eating Gwyndolin. All the lore items says that he is SLOWLY consuming him, which is...ugh, I dont even want to think about it.

+1980sBoy they all say was gradually, was eaten slowly, all in the past tense. Gwyndolin is dead

Yeah, I noticed that myself after I posted that. It's still a shitty way to go.

@@doctor_baseball nope in fact in the lore it self it says if the ashen one came earlier gwyndolin would have been saved

But why, I'm pretty sure Aldrich eating Gwyndolin can't be called cannibalism. They would have to be of the same species for that, but Gwyndolin is a god, and Aldrich (who was once human, probably) is a mass of goo.

@@nikitas1841 A mass of goo that used to be human.

@@nikitas1841 I don't think their actual gods in game, in fact gwyn is called lord, and back in the days when they had castles and what not a ruler in a castle was allot of times called a king or lord, but if gwyndolin was a god why didn't he slay dragons like his dad amd why did his dad need knowledge from seethe the scalless to know the dragons were weak to lightning, I believe their just called gods or lords because their really powerful and know allot of spells, but sorcery was clearly mostly discovered by big hat Logan so you can't really say the gods were responsible for creating or being the only ones with great power

@@alucard-jy8wh big hat logan learned spells from seath but you're right. the god is more of a title in dark souls and doesnt mean shit honestly. gwyn and his crew gave themselves the title of gods but theyre are just oversized overpowered life forms to be honest.

@@nikitas1841 He was a cannibalism because he feasted on people. Part of the lore explicitly states the Evangelists in the Undead Settlement were getting villagers to serve as food.

Sulivynh, is the root cause of this

@@kevinnathanielesquibel9143 What did he do?

@@luckylove72 he fed gwyndolin toalrich. It's also stated that he turned knights of the boreal valley going to other lands into mindless beasts by giving them his eyes..

Him and Gwyn

(Applause)

fvking aldrich

Amazing trap ahead. Therefore, try thrusting.

If such a DLC exist, I want it to give more backstory to the nameless king and the fate of Smough and Ornstien

It is what it is.

gwyndolin is already dead when you fight Aldrich.All the item descriptions say he was slowly devoured, past tense.

The Wizard Anyways, that is his corpse after being devoured, my theory stands xD

What I want to know is how he has the gravelord sword

The Wizard He dreamt of "a pale girl", and by the description of this girl she seemed like Priscilla, which means he can get some power JUST by dreaming of the person/thing, and so he could've dreamt of Nito, because knowing that Nito is killed in the first Dark Souls... I doubt he ate him.

That sounds about right but I'm calling it now one of the dlcs is going to involve Nito, or Londor

I think Gwyndolin have one of the saddest backstories, and now one the worst endings too. He didn't created the illusion to fool us it's because he was ashamed of himself and it would not be the same thing if Gwyndolin was there giving the lord vessel to you instead of Gwynevere, also, i'm sure he was fooled by Frampt just like Gwyn.

***** Fair point.

+MrDibara all he wanted was to keep on being the amazing trap ahead

Holy shit Aldrich Eldritch THEY SOUND THE SAME

The OJHgamer *It's not an accident. >;)*

Good question.

mmmm PASTA!!!!! :D if i eat a chicken, the chicken gets smaller and i get bigger

mmmm PASTA!!!!! :D look at his hands, his face & body shape. It resembles an adult, compared to ds1 gwyndolin that looked like an early teenager

Archontasius Size doesn't mean much of anything in Souls, really. Gwynevere is massive, Gwyn isn't much bigger than a normal human (there are in fact undead who are just as large or larger), the Nameless King is slightly smaller, and Gwyndolin as seen in DS1 is exactly the size of a normal person.

Justin Lee Gwyn has been burnt when you have power, you can become larger An example - Slave knight Gael

I have done the absolute opposite, meaning I played DS1, didnt finish DS2 and didnt play or DS3, although I'm finally at least looking into it. Gwyndolin's fate is one of the most horrible, having known him, he didnt have the happiest story around, god or not.

Gwyndolin being the last God in Anor Londo was held captive by the Pontiff Sullivan to wait a painful and slow death by Aldrich the Devour of Gods explains why he was a tail made out of goop and bones

Norma Quintana The "tail" is actually Aldrich. He's in the process of devouring Gwyndolin by the time you arrive to fight him.

If you look closely at aldritch's soul item you can see something within it.

I think Aldrich is using Gwyndolin to breath(and attack) as a puppet, making these sounds.

+Crestfallen That is one option, although I doubt Aldrich needs to breath in the first place, since he's just a mess of goo and bones. How would he even control how Gwyndolin breathes, he's digesting him not inhabiting his body. It's kind of like a sock puppet at this point. Also how are you doing this? Is this type of mode only available on PC? I've been wanting to get some close ups of bosses.

Well when ''Aldrich'' attacks, we see Gwyndolin moving his entire upper body and the scythe too, and Gwyndolin is not doing it by itself. I used cheat engine and it's only on pc. If Gwyndolin isn't dead yet somehow we end up killing him when we kill Aldrich anyway...

I don't think he is dead. At least not fully. A lot of people seem to think that just because the Darkmoon bow says that he WAS devoured, that means he was dead before we arrived. I think it's all about perspective, because when we arrive Aldrich is clearly still eating, but we do kill him, so both Gwyndolin and Aldrich are now fully dead. I think the description is simply using past tense because we'd killed him, not that Gwyndolin was already dead when we arrived, if you're still with me. Like the description wouldn't say "Bow of Dark Sun Gwyndolin who was half-devoured by Aldrich until the Unkindled came along". Also like a few people have said before, I don't think it's actually Aldrich making those noises during the battle. It's more like he has spread through Gwyndolin's body like blood and is physically manipulating his movements, but he isn't actually inhabiting the gods body. Kind of like how a hand manipulates a rubber glove once it's inside it, or a sock puppet. I know it's more disturbing to think that Gwyndolin could possibly be trapped inside his own body and is fully aware of what is happening but can't do a thing because the blob is literally digesting his body from inside out but for me it makes sense. Also I have used CE myself on this boss purely for reasons such as this and honestly, it seems like the worm part is the bit actually in control. On a couple of melee strikes, such as the slam, I noticed that Gwyndolin's body sags over like a ragdoll and then the worm part at his waist is the thing that lifts it back up. Adds a lot of credibility to the theory that Aldrich is simply flinging Gwyndolin's corpse around and not actually inhabiting it. I really wish they'd spent more time on this boss. A cut-scene at the beginning or in the middle would have helped. Another thing I don't get is why Anri summons us when we're in the same world as her. I mean we fight Yhorm the giant with Seigward and he was in the same world as us. This boss fight just seems so unfinished. Maybe something similar to Ludvig the Accursed from Bloodborne, like at the end of the battle what's left of Gwyndolins body stays there and you can talk to him briefly, tell him that Pontiff is dead and Yorshka is safe. I don't know, for me this boss seemed the most interesting and the most incomplete in both terms of gameplay and closure.

I could do more that if I had debug instead of CE, like controlling him and seeing the attacks. When i recorded the video I didn't noticed but you can see Gwyndolin chest and it's now dried, just skin and bones, and the skin is darker, as if he were already dead for some time(he had boobs but i dont know if that's important now) also there's obviously his broken arms/wrists probably because of aldrich.

It's really hard to tell, another question would be: Can the goo hurt us? Or does Aldrich need a Body to hurt us? I mean, I see some ways to kill us with his goo fluids... but he didn't even try to slow us with it in the boss fight (which would be interesting, too, think about the boatfight in DS2, when the water continued to slow you more and more). Another point is the goo around the building is or was that part of "Aldrich" and he left it behind or is he surrounded by goo and got a "hard mass" which is this wormthing?

He looks that way because he ate gwyndolin

the body kinda looks true king allant,like all gooey and stuff

*I wish that the 2nd phase was something like Aldrich spitting or swallowing Gwyndolin and then we got to fight the real Aldrich as a giant man-eating thing trying to eat us.* i.pinimg.com/originals/03/9a/c1/039ac1e51ffe122adfe1f025d32246e2.jpg i.pinimg.com/1200x/2d/42/1f/2d421fe1f4968177f233a54ef84e0d61.jpg

Im 2 years late but... The floor is flat cos so is gwyndolin ;)

I mean you can if you kill him in dark souls 1.

that's probably because that's what he's doing.

aldrich is pribably sucking at his snakes at the moment..

+DeZiiRe Dashie He's moaning in pain. It's not like someone would enjoy being chemically broken down by a flesh blob.

The Dark Sun of Anor Londo That's somebody's fettish

+Skeleton Warlord Whoever has this as a fetish needs to seek professional help. Seriously there is a fine line between a slightly strange fetish and just downright insane.

They explicitly say that Aldrich likes to slowly eat his prey alive, so he can savor their screams and other such terrified sounds.

Chemical Phoebe Time is convoluted in Lordran. So I just look at this and say "not in my timeline." Someone else can link the flame, my high level dark souls 1 character will be parked right next to Gwyndolin permanently and anyone that looks at him even slightly funny is toast.

@@ForestofCicadas I like your timeline ;_;

@@cthulhuhoops Then you can make it your timeline, too^^ Fun thing about Dark Souls is that everything is so convoluted with timelines and worlds and cycles and whatever, who can say that some oddball thing can't happen in one of those worlds. Yeah there's the canon but if you really think on it, we're only really seeing one timeline, plucked out and set in front of us by the devs. Who is to say that in one of these many connected but slightly different timelines that something can't snowball and throw it off course. So I think there could definitely be timelines where Aldrich gets dunked on and Gwyndolin is Okiedokey. You don't even know for sure that the timeline you play in DS3 is the one from DS1 given the multiple events that could happen in DS1 to totally throw it off track from becoming DS3. The dark lord ending exists, the player can fight and kill Gwyndolin, you can park a high level character in Anor Londo indefinitely. The canon of DS3 requires that certain events occur in DS1, and yet actions that defy that canon can be done in game so from that you can infer that the events of DS3 are not guaranteed for every timeline. Sorry for the paragraph, I am just more than willing to do some mental gymnastics for the sake of Gwyndolin.

@@ForestofCicadas Then it's settled, my undead stayed by Gwyndolin's side and protected him for eternity T_T

Nashandra or Nito reference perhaps? His weapon is the Gravelord Greatsword but with a spear-like handle.

@@SirDoots the handle is just gwyndolin's staff

And I love pontiff

Someone needed to stop them

Can't blame Aldrich for eating everybody needs to eat

@Logan Westbrook That is for... The taste... Yes for the taste

Somehow, I get the feeling Sulyvahn was the brains between those two. Aldrich just doesn't strike me as being especially clever, while Sulyvahn definitely acts like a chess master with all the shit he's done.

Aldrich and the other lords of cinder were just revived like a week or two before you go and kill them, not thousands of years. Aldrich had just started devouring Gwyndolin before we walked in

Aldrich had only been devouring him for 3-7 days

4 years later but thats a fucked up fetish

@@blank6165 lmaooo

@@blank6165 hot

@@blank6165 someone would indeed hustle to it

It won't be as fucked up if you add out after the eating part

he

maybe animations can't react to the hit

+Dalv Aerolf he or she

İts actually (He).

and gwyndolin is (He) tho xd.

They are rumor who said Lothric wasn't the son of oceiros but the fruit of incest between Gwendolin and Gwenivere " unspeakable means" But I did'nt knew for all those Rape story , Gwenevere is sure a bitch.

Aldrich molesting kids?! the FUCK?!? I thought he just ate them!!

wtf. did we play the same game? ive never heard of dark souls having so much rape in it. what are you talking about

@@JohnDoe-ligma He literally explained it, dude.

@@wildman7220 I know what he said. Idk about you but I'm mega into lore. I've read all types of descriptions. The closet I've ever heard of anyone being SA is the dancer of the boreal valley. Gwynevere was married off to Seath as thanks for his betrayal. And seath experimented on maidens. He did not rape them. Nothing I've ever read, seen, or heard even hinted at that. How the fuck can seath even rape them? That doesn't even make sense

Gloria Baquera Sounds like? It is.

JACK NO

Gwyndolin was eaten alive and Aldritch is controlling him. So I guess controlling the body makes it alive.

***** Well to be fair, they're not just noises, they're come sort of moans mixed with pain. That, or Aldritch's meal is giving him a lot of orgasms.

Carol Jing gwyndolin i realese you may talos have him

Aldrich

alec pizz nah fam, we walked in on him while he was eating lunch

*Boyfriend

what’s going on

HerzogKefka bloodborne is the painting that the loli paints in Ariandell. You're wellcome

Yoel Gallardo Ortegón Proof? any confirmation?

Crocodile Warlord. nope but just think about it: in bloodborne you have lost your memories, the most likely theory is that you are hollow, plus the fact of the blood and fire; the painting was made in a place that was bunrning, and it was made with blood. I think that the property of the "magic blood" is actually because its of the dark souls. Aaand there's the moonlight greatsord, wich could have very easily entered

I dont think so. i mean it IS an interesting idea, but nothing more that the new Painting is the world of Bloodborne. I mean... i dont see any connections between. i had to admit, that my Opinion about Aldrich's Dream isnt a real Proof as well. Its just an Idea, because he eat one - maybe two or even mor Gods because of his Dream of the deep Sea , what actually reminds me of the Godlikes in Bloodborn who also come from the deep See. But a real Proof it is not.

HerzogKefka yeah gess you are right. but it would be reeeeaaally cool

Its cause Gwyndolin fell ill and pontiff used the opportunity to make a coul,if he didn't fall ill he would have simply killed Aldrich and pontiff.. If you're asking the reason he fell ill is because of PLOT

I can't unless I get a developer version of the game.

Oh okay fair enough

i want to have such a fashion sense that immediately after my being consumed my clothes are desperately sought out to be worn by admirers

Wakka Seta Aldrich probably broke it (shrugs)

I think people are greatly overanalyzing the illusion thing.

It seems obvious to me that Gwyndolin is either being controlled or dead, the posture, the blank eyes...

He's dead. Aldrich is pretty much just wearing the corpse as a hat at this point.