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Alex Cox: Hitman or Fall Guy? | ID v Chad Daybell Day 11 Recap 

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#AlexCox searched "What caliber would penetrate a windshield?" using the alias account Homerjmaximus. This alias account allegedly owned by Cox placed him near the #Daybell home four hours before the 'paintball incident' and on the night of #TammyDaybell's murder.
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@COURTTV
@COURTTV Месяц назад
#CourtTV - What do YOU think?
@nikkibrennand2656
@nikkibrennand2656 Месяц назад
I feel Alex Cox was also involved in the death of Lori's eldest sister Stacey. She was a chronic diabetic and all the family were holidaying in Hawaii when she passed except for Alex who was supposedly caring for her and when she died, he called someone to come over and then he took her credit card and went shopping and none of the family appeared concerned that she had passed. Dont think it was his first rodeo
@SheilaLS
@SheilaLS Месяц назад
No woman gets information about an affair and simply deletes it and blocks the sender.
@carolannpacificadam1944
@carolannpacificadam1944 Месяц назад
The deaths of 5 people.. Dear court tv This case is so painful I no longer can watch.
@mfi-cf7sp
@mfi-cf7sp Месяц назад
I think Chad is no better than Charlie Manson 🤷🏻‍♀️
@audradaniels4161
@audradaniels4161 Месяц назад
Did anyone bring up the possibility that Chad intercepted the email from Charles? That makes a lot more sense to me than Tammy deleting it and pretending she never saw it
@debbiemelillo2011
@debbiemelillo2011 Месяц назад
Arizona police should be on trial. They ignored poor Charles and they believed Alex Cox killed him in self defense, and never even investigated him. They have a lot of explaining to do.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
If they would have did there job when Charles was killed, I honestly believe that the kids would be alive today and Tammy..
@debbiemelillo2011
@debbiemelillo2011 Месяц назад
@@marciayoung8735I agree and I’ll go one step further and say if they had done their jobs, the kids, Tammy AND Charles would all be alive today.
@aafsterlife9647
@aafsterlife9647 Месяц назад
@@debbiemelillo2011 This!
@james123stewart
@james123stewart Месяц назад
Yes,! From 1st officer on scene thru investigators, DA...coroner smells also. 😎MM😎
@honeybunch5765
@honeybunch5765 Месяц назад
Yes, they should have given him protection, but they went all gaga after interviewing Lori! 🙄
@frelnc
@frelnc Месяц назад
Hit man or fall guy? I'm thinking both.
@SheilaLS
@SheilaLS Месяц назад
💯
@ozzybloke-craig3690
@ozzybloke-craig3690 Месяц назад
Yes i came here to say that, but you did it for me. Thanks. 100% it is Both! A hit man for them that then took the fall of the murder they all set up.
@vickieparry3168
@vickieparry3168 Месяц назад
He did as he was told to do By chad and lori.
@teresamorrow2459
@teresamorrow2459 Месяц назад
Chad’s horrid lawyer needs to stop putting down the victims!! Tammy(unfit?) JJ(hard to handle?) Tylee(bi-polar?) who cares?? We all have problems!! Has he looked in the mirror? Not so FIT himself!! Arrogant!!
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
Blood red face, I wonder if he's a heavy drinker
@RLS1
@RLS1 Месяц назад
He is a trash human and sexual predator. Not one redeeming quality himself. I expect nothing but sleaze from him.
@CrystaleMethe
@CrystaleMethe Месяц назад
Tammy wasn’t even unfit. She wasn’t super fit or ripped but she wasn’t large by any means. What a pos
@kateskeys
@kateskeys Месяц назад
Agreed⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@audradaniels4161
@audradaniels4161 Месяц назад
I could not agree more. Isn’t bullying the witnesses and the victims the worst possible strategy to win over a jury? I’m not an attorney but it seems deeply flawed
@chellegoodfriend
@chellegoodfriend Месяц назад
Chad Dumbell thinking he can bury the kids in his own Backyard and he'll get away with murder 😂
@audradaniels4161
@audradaniels4161 Месяц назад
And his whole weird text about killing the raccoon and burying it in the pet cemetery…..Chad is as dumb as he is evil
@ginosko_
@ginosko_ Месяц назад
Hell naw he said dumbbell
@iffyangel3380
@iffyangel3380 Месяц назад
I can hear it! "My sweet angel Elaina, they will NEVER think of the kids being here! It's the last place anyone would ever look." ... They make be utterly sick and after finding out that ALL his kids and Tammy believed his garbage, I am appalled! Tammy KNEW what becoming a Zombie meant! She told a coworker she wasn't a Zombie! My word!
@mickeylombardo1529
@mickeylombardo1529 Месяц назад
OMG!! I spit out my coffee reading this comment!! I will now refer to Chad as Chad Dumbell!! 😅
@twovirginiacats3753
@twovirginiacats3753 Месяц назад
It makes me wonder if he has done something similar before and gotten away with it!
@leahteuschel1339
@leahteuschel1339 Месяц назад
Chad and Lori know "dead men don't talk"
@Ausgar-yc1yl
@Ausgar-yc1yl Месяц назад
Actually dead people can talk.
@audreyricci6383
@audreyricci6383 Месяц назад
The dead do speak and they do tell tales.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
Yes they do though
@notsorryyouretriggered
@notsorryyouretriggered Месяц назад
^ what? Like to mediums or in the sense of evidence left behind? In actuality they do not talk so you’re going to have to be more specific
@antoinettevambe5714
@antoinettevambe5714 Месяц назад
They didn't realise that police know the dead can talk through forensics, past conversations, digital records, etc
@RLS1
@RLS1 Месяц назад
Now we know why Chad's kids still support him. They knew all about his cult and insane beliefs.
@therealz360z7
@therealz360z7 Месяц назад
The only "dark" kids in this case are the Daybell spawn .
@RLS1
@RLS1 Месяц назад
@@therealz360z7 amen!!
@ginosko_
@ginosko_ Месяц назад
He probably has blessed them like he did Alex
@RLS1
@RLS1 Месяц назад
@@ginosko_ lol, right?!
@johannawigg6921
@johannawigg6921 Месяц назад
He convinced people he'd just met of his beliefs so imagine being indoctrinated from birth, his kids and unfortunately Tammy believed in Chads teachings.
@Kellyla1960
@Kellyla1960 Месяц назад
The detective did very well on the stand. Prior couldn’t shake him.
@sunshinegal4294
@sunshinegal4294 Месяц назад
Yes, and he would even correct Prior when he’d try to change the facts.
@halucio
@halucio Месяц назад
I suspect he killed Joseph Ryan, too.
@CarlottaTrouble
@CarlottaTrouble Месяц назад
Oh heck yeah
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
That's exactly why I came to the comments, I will always believe that they murdered Joseph.
@glamdolly30
@glamdolly30 Месяц назад
Yes, Alex Cox had planned to murder Joseph Ryan way back in 2007 when he ambushed and attacked him with a taser gun in a parking lot, where he'd come for an access visit with his then 4 year old daughter Tylee (just as 12 years later he'd murder Lori's next husband Charles Vallow, on an access visit to little JJ). Alex later told a friend he planned to murder Joseph that day by throwing him in the trunk of his vehicle while stunned by the taser, then driving to a remote location to shoot him and dump his body. But the taser failed to fully deploy, and Joseph fled and called 911. Alex was arrested and served three months in prison for aggravated assault. He retained a pathological hatred for Joseph Ryan, repeating Lori's slanderous lies that he'd SA'ed daughter Tylee (allegations investigated and rejected by Child Protection, who ruled Tylee had been coached to make false statements against her dad). When Joseph's body was found in his double locked apartment in early April 2018 he'd been dead for at least a week. Advanced decomposition meant foul play could not be detected, and it was ruled a natural death. But I don't buy it for multiple reasons. Lori knew she'd benefit financially from Joseph's death, and sure enough in August 2018 she received a payment of $60,000 to her account from his life insurance policy. Tylee immediately received around $4,000 a month in death benefits, as Joseph's only child. Lori had full access to that money and treated it as her own. The following year, one month before her murder. Lori had Tylee's benefits payments switched from her daughter's bank account, to her own. She also switched the beneficiary of her own, $2m life insurance policy to her eldest child, son Colby alone (she clearly knew Tylee and JJ wouldn't be around much longer). I have no doubt Joseph Ryan was murdered by Alex and Lori - they have admitted as much to their brother Adam Cox. People can, and do get away with murder. The outrageous police incompetence in this case, which allowed heinous killers to get away with murder time and time again, resulted in at least three avoidable homicides. If Lori and Alex had been charged with Charles Vallow's murder as they should have been, there's every possibility Tylee and JJ, and Tammy Daybell, would still be alive today. Ironically I believe if Alex Cox had been kept behind bars, he too would be alive - because Lori and Chad would not have been able to kill him!
@rozfisher2182
@rozfisher2182 Месяц назад
And almost killed Zulema
@glamdolly30
@glamdolly30 Месяц назад
@@rozfisher2182 When was that?
@whiteroses47
@whiteroses47 Месяц назад
I think Alex Cox was a hitman and a fall guy. I think Chad Daybell murdered his wife, Tammy. IMO, his and Lori's followers are accomplices. I don't believe Chad slept next to his poor wife's dead body, and I don't believe that he didn't know that those poor children were buried on his property. Who's he kidding? He's a sneak and a snake! Please!! He's trying to come off as being this mild-mannered Clark Kent when he's the worst kind of human being.
@merricat3025
@merricat3025 Месяц назад
I don't trust Emma and Garth
@audradaniels4161
@audradaniels4161 Месяц назад
@@merricat3025they’re a complete mystery to me. Stockholm syndrome maybe? Perhaps it’s a blessing Tammy didn’t have to watch her kids betray her as deeply as they have
@ginosko_
@ginosko_ Месяц назад
I bet you wouldn’t be saying such bad stuff about Chad if he were blessing you irl like he did Alex
@Tess-163
@Tess-163 Месяц назад
Even if he didn’t have the guts to actually kill Tammy he was definitely an accomplice in her death and also the children’s . I will be very surprised if he walks away from any of this what sort of person could walk free and go on to live life knowing what he has done it’s bad enough he’s sitting there trying to do exactly that smh he’s evil .
@littlesmith5005
@littlesmith5005 Месяц назад
@@ginosko_ 😆
@PatriciaKeel-ig9ni
@PatriciaKeel-ig9ni Месяц назад
If they didn’t kill the children, they would have got away with murdering the two spouses.
@bethnorrod5942
@bethnorrod5942 Месяц назад
The children were the biggest obstacles. Lori wanted ther benefit checks without having to spend them actually caring for the children.
@L.D.Intheditch
@L.D.Intheditch Месяц назад
Tylee was probably starting to talk,and question things.
@CarlottaTrouble
@CarlottaTrouble Месяц назад
Totally agree. Maybe even tylee could have been deemed missing but JJ did them in
@CarlottaTrouble
@CarlottaTrouble Месяц назад
They said tylee wasn't going along with things and then was deemed dark
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
😢
@ircjesselee
@ircjesselee Месяц назад
Lori looks like a chain smoking Kmart employee who flirts with all the high school boys in the checkout line 😂
@ginosko_
@ginosko_ Месяц назад
That’s hot though as a teen
@lisak5804
@lisak5804 Месяц назад
😂 spot on
@patriotliberty3070
@patriotliberty3070 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ginosko_
@ginosko_ Месяц назад
@@patriotliberty3070 as a teen though your happy for a hot mom to be flirting with you
@elizabethgfell9766
@elizabethgfell9766 Месяц назад
Alex Cox was Lori Vallow's own personal "Lurch."
@MKUltra42
@MKUltra42 Месяц назад
Are we going to talk about the messages with Tammy and the Daybell children where they are ALL talking about dark & light and calling Sunday school CHILDREN dark?? And Emma is still a teacher?!
@TriciaEllinger
@TriciaEllinger Месяц назад
I said that in another chat, Emma or any of the Daybell kids could be dangerous. If they believe the rating, zombies and so forth. Discussing children? Sick!!!!
@izzyday6907
@izzyday6907 Месяц назад
Let’s hope she’s not after this trial. There will be petitions and angry parents after today’s revelations
@TriciaEllinger
@TriciaEllinger Месяц назад
​@izzyday6907 If my child's name was brought up in a murder trial I would be freaking out and asking a lot of questions
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
😮 I've never heard about that one.. where can I listen to it ??
@jennifermitchell3070
@jennifermitchell3070 Месяц назад
Wow didn't know Emma is a teacher!!! That's scary!!
@neverloozehope2238
@neverloozehope2238 Месяц назад
I think that Lori promised Alex money from the million-dollar life insurance and when that insurance money didn't come, he knew he would become the Fall Guy.
@johannas.l.brushane2518
@johannas.l.brushane2518 Месяц назад
I think that Lori's family overall somewhat catered to her disorders. Her mother and sister were very supportive when normal relatives would have started to question her. She could play for a long time on her looks and charm but at some time, when a middle-aged person behaves and talk like a teenager most people think it's annoying and pathetic. But she probably also exaggerated the mental issues etc with the kids, it's something that have people to be a bit more sympathetic and she was probably someone to use it to max.
@Georgie14
@Georgie14 Месяц назад
Wow! No one listened to Charles. Not even Tammy!
@ladaha1
@ladaha1 Месяц назад
I don’t think Tammy opened the email from Charles.
@Georgie14
@Georgie14 Месяц назад
@@ladaha1 they just said that she did open it and it was in her trash box and she then blocked future emails from Charles.
@Lori.G.
@Lori.G. Месяц назад
@Georgie14 Maybe that email was intercepted before she saw it by someone who knew Charles was sending it! (CD)
@ladaha1
@ladaha1 Месяц назад
@@Georgie14 her email was always open on a computer at home. There is no proof that she opened it and deleted it and blocked Charles. I believe Chad did it.
@Georgie14
@Georgie14 Месяц назад
@@ladaha1 it was her work email address.
@cindyk8974
@cindyk8974 Месяц назад
We don’t know who opened and deleted the email, in addition to blocking Charles. Could have been Chad, which is what I believe.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
I agree with you, because Charles told Lori he sent her one.
@JackieOlantern
@JackieOlantern Месяц назад
I wonder why the state didn’t ask the IT guy from Tammy’s school more questions. Like how would someone besides Tammy get access to her school email account? Did she have her school email in her phone? Her computer? A laptop? My husband’s work email isn’t accessible from any of our computers… only his phone because his company has its own domain. So much more should have been asked.
@JoBeth-tw6ki
@JoBeth-tw6ki Месяц назад
@@JackieOlantern I recall the detective briefly mentioning Chad sending an email to Tammy that day too, after he got an email from Charles telling him to tell Tammy or Charles was going to email her. I am assuming the email was either prohibited from being admitted as evidence or may be referenced during later testimony. I think Chad emailed Tammy about some dark/zombie entity, spinning lies about their relationship and telling Tammy to delete and block. It seems if that happened, she did what her husband requested and believed him of course. So sad.
@justme33126
@justme33126 Месяц назад
My thoughts exactly.
@cjking4511
@cjking4511 Месяц назад
@@JackieOlantern I doubt a school IT person is that knowledgeable to answer those kind of questions. I also do not think it is true that your husband's work email isn't accessible from his home computer but is accessible from his cell phone. That just means your husband does not know how to access his work email at home. ALL companies have their own domain. You have to either use vpn or single sign on to access the email. The cell phone saves single sign automatically but on a home computer you have to go through the company's vpn to access email OR use the outlook app on the computer to save the single sign on for email access. Most teachers have jobs where they can easily access their work emails at home and they are not usually that computer savy so the computer stays logged in all the time at home.
@pattymeier2466
@pattymeier2466 Месяц назад
Seeing Lori's husbands 3 and 4...She was really DOWN GRADING with #5 Chad 😮
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
She married Kermit the frog
@GSD1963
@GSD1963 Месяц назад
Lord have mercy is that ever the truth. Have you ever seen a more frumpy man.
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
She was attracted to his “power” 🤦🏻‍♀️ she managed to have her delusion disorder fairly under wraps but then came Chud the spud and BAM! 💥 all a sudden she thinks the dude can walk on water.
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
@@marciayoung8735how dare you. Apologize now. To Kermit.
@ginosko_
@ginosko_ Месяц назад
Chad is a powerful one with the ability to bless
@JackieOlantern
@JackieOlantern Месяц назад
Did those three bozo murderers really think that Larry and Kay are just gonna forget about their grandson?
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
Yup. Yup they did.
@kellyloulou81
@kellyloulou81 Месяц назад
they certainly did 😂😂😂😂 morons
@kellyloulou81
@kellyloulou81 Месяц назад
they certainly did 😂😂😂😂 morons
@suebdoo5152
@suebdoo5152 Месяц назад
I would say Larry and Kay would have been next on the bozo’s dark list.
@Kimmer
@Kimmer Месяц назад
Why did Court TV assume that it was Tammy who read the email from Charles? Is it possible that Chad got to her computer first and deleted it? We'll never know.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
Court TV didn't express their opinions because they want us too in the comments.
@sheilaanderson8164
@sheilaanderson8164 Месяц назад
Great point ❤
@545linda
@545linda Месяц назад
I was under the impression Charlie's email to Tammy was sent to her place of employment. If so, Chad would not have seen it
@Kimmer
@Kimmer Месяц назад
@@545linda The question is whether or not her work email could be accessed from home. For many people, this can be done on the internet. We may never know, but it's interesting to consider. I wouldn't be surprised either way.
@janetjohnson7279
@janetjohnson7279 Месяц назад
Justice for Tylee, JJ, Tammy and Charles!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻😥😥😥🙏🏻 Larry and Kay are Heroes!!
@lisalesliefan1976
@lisalesliefan1976 Месяц назад
100% agree
@janetjohnson7279
@janetjohnson7279 Месяц назад
@@lisalesliefan1976 👍🏻💙
@spookshow6999
@spookshow6999 Месяц назад
You can also get air rifles that shoot bullets. I do not believe for one second it was a paintball gun.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
I believe Chad is the one that told her it was probably a paint gun but I'm not sure.
@loricochrane9784
@loricochrane9784 Месяц назад
What a freaking nightmare...there are so many more of them out there unchecked imo. Scary.
@therealz360z7
@therealz360z7 Месяц назад
The only "dark" children in this case are the Daybell spawn .
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
I feel like a jack azz. I was actually sticking up for them recently- saying they were tricked or brainwashed. But these kids are just as cr@zy as their dad!
@Pav9001
@Pav9001 Месяц назад
Imagine if they did not kill the kids......they would have gotten away with the murders of their spouses!
@pamlyons2452
@pamlyons2452 Месяц назад
Did Tammy delete it or did Chad intercept it? 🤔
@mynameiseve.1
@mynameiseve.1 Месяц назад
i 100% think that chad deleted and blocked the emails and its just weird that noone in court is suggesting that! lori knew that charles was gonna contact tammy and married couples have each others passwords. its a total no brainer imo.
@bizzeeBe
@bizzeeBe Месяц назад
mynameiseve I totally agree!
@nadinefrandsen6087
@nadinefrandsen6087 Месяц назад
I think so, too. He knew it was coming.
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
Well apparently Tammy was drinking the kool aid too so it’s very possible she DID read it and told Chad and Chad told her “that man is dark, stay away from him” so she blocked and deleted his email. It can go either way!
@judytaylor4265
@judytaylor4265 Месяц назад
We will never know.
@fezcapone2784
@fezcapone2784 Месяц назад
If Alex murdered Tammy, did Chad assist??? Gonna be hard to stick Alex with it when Chad was in bed beside her…
@deecondon2816
@deecondon2816 Месяц назад
I just don’t see how Alex could’ve killed Tammy since at least Garth was home. I’m putting that one on Chad but I do believe Alex killed Tyler and at the very least Alex and Lori killed JJ❤❤❤
@audreyricci6383
@audreyricci6383 Месяц назад
Tylee not Tyler.
@ladaha1
@ladaha1 Месяц назад
@@audreyricci6383spellcheck changes Tylee to Tyler
@rick-grim
@rick-grim Месяц назад
@@deecondon2816-Garth was working at a local haunted house that evening. Chad would know when Garth was expected home. Chad, Alex, and Lori are capable of just about anything after listening to texts and emails between them. I could NEVER sleep in a bed knowing my husband was dead, but Chad was wired differently than most.
@deecondon2816
@deecondon2816 Месяц назад
@@audreyricci6383 I made a mistake. It happens occasionally.
@sonjapetersen2991
@sonjapetersen2991 Месяц назад
Charles was killed about 20 days later. Heartbreaking. Chad conspired in that one also... Many texts show that to be the case. He should be charged for it also.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
I agree 💯, calling that funeral home like he did is a conspiracy to commit a crime
@lisalesliefan1976
@lisalesliefan1976 Месяц назад
100% agree
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
That’s literally all they have on him tho- that call to the funeral home. It’s weird! But it doesn’t prove anything
@mynameiseve.1
@mynameiseve.1 Месяц назад
why is noone suggesting that chad deleted and blocked the email from charles?? seems pretty obvious to me! im sure chad had tammys passwords and lori knew that charles was going to contact her!! that just makes way more sense imo!
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
In my opinion of course he obviously did, Charles told Lori he sent her an email, Charles should have never told anyone he did that.
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
Maybe. Or maybe Tammy is drinking the kool aid too. She was in in the light/dark ratings! So maybe she got their weird email and Chad says “that man is disturbed. I sense he is a 5.9 dark, you should probably block him”, and she actually believes it.
@sheilaanderson8164
@sheilaanderson8164 Месяц назад
Absolutely
@mynameiseve.1
@mynameiseve.1 Месяц назад
​@@marciayoung8735i know, but I bet this outcome was the very last thing on his mind right?! Its beyond comprehension
@sigridbuck5032
@sigridbuck5032 Месяц назад
HE WAS BURNING " LIMBS "
@audreyricci6383
@audreyricci6383 Месяц назад
Told Tammy that he "shot a large raccoon" crawling around in his back yard. That "raccoon" had to be Tylee.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
OMG that is what he said to Tammy isn't it 😮 I forgot about that part, my mind stayed with the raccoon in the pet sematary. Pure Evil ..
@io132
@io132 Месяц назад
so disgusting he purposely played w words there bc he’s a ‘writer’ this time his writing sealed his fate
@lisak5804
@lisak5804 Месяц назад
Yep. Sicko. He probably called Tyler a raccoon because they are dark...and limbs...well, yes. He probably justified it as not lying to his wife. So I wonder if Tylee was shot....most likely
@Piat65
@Piat65 Месяц назад
How did they know Tammy deleted Charles email?Chad could of deleted it
@lisak5804
@lisak5804 Месяц назад
He probably did because Charles was telling Lori what he was doing and she probably told chad
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 Месяц назад
Chad did it.
@spittinchips5175
@spittinchips5175 Месяц назад
Alex Cox was their hit man and as he realized finally, he was their fall guy.
@ScarlettRose7221
@ScarlettRose7221 Месяц назад
Hypoglycemia or an Insulin overdose can cause acute pulmonary edema as well as increase risk of heart for those with preexisting heart conditions.
@tanyachristensen5330
@tanyachristensen5330 Месяц назад
Alex is both. They are all guilty Alex,Lori,Chad. In my opinion
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
In my personal opinion I think both Melanie's were also guilty along with Zulima ..
@Mumof3greatkids
@Mumof3greatkids Месяц назад
Those Daybell kids are not to be trusted especially Emma
@RLS1
@RLS1 Месяц назад
Why aren't Chad's kids being charged with helping to cover up this insanity? They knew what was going on!
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
LE has to be able to prove it.. but it all makes sense now doesn't it, how on Earth could anybody stand by their father that murdered their mother that never made any sense to me.
@RLS1
@RLS1 Месяц назад
@marciayoung8735 agreed! I know it's most likely because they couldn't prove it, but man, do I wish they could!! I wish they had actually gone after everyone involved in this cult and charged them as coconspirators! It doesn't feel much like justice by only going after the two leaders and none of the followers and enablers!
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
Prove it. You realize that there are wayyyyy more cases than prosecutors and judges? They don’t have the luxury of going after every single person. If they don’t think they can prove it in court they won’t do it.
@RLS1
@RLS1 Месяц назад
@kateashby3066 I don't have to. That was LE's job. However, the texts and emails revealed today prove they knew of his insane beliefs, which should've have given them enough of a reason to actually investigate further to determine whether they knew of the criminal activities or not. LE, in the beginning of this case, took what these nuts said at face value and never looked deeper into anyone involved until Kay Woodcock demanded someone check on those kids! Then, they only focused on the ringleaders and no one else. The number of judges and lawyers doesn't justify ignoring criminal culpability of coconspirators. Early investigators dropped the ball and lost precious time. If they had at least investigated them in some capacity, they could say they tried and couldn't prove it, but in most instances in this case, they didn't even try to prove it. Which is all I meant by the above comment. A lot of people involved in this case have blood on their hands whether they were ever charged or not.
@brendajuarez9326
@brendajuarez9326 Месяц назад
A lot more people have blood on their hands I agree
@saravargas31
@saravargas31 Месяц назад
Poor raccoon. These people are disgusting.
@paulaoppedisano6460
@paulaoppedisano6460 Месяц назад
I think Alex knew after Chads, “ Blessing “ that he was called to off himself eventually, and he’d “ know when”
@karenaltschwager5929
@karenaltschwager5929 Месяц назад
Yes!!!! And he rang chad very close to his death and chad blessed him over the phone I think?
@karinatrujillo8437
@karinatrujillo8437 Месяц назад
What is clear to me, is that police never made a real and serious investigation in the murder of both espouses.
@lorabell3553
@lorabell3553 Месяц назад
I believe Lori is the most evil/guilty. She used her brother and she used Chad to get what she want. Her evil goes way way back..
@user-qi3ny9gt3e
@user-qi3ny9gt3e Месяц назад
Yes
@user-qi3ny9gt3e
@user-qi3ny9gt3e Месяц назад
Si, totalmente de acuerdo
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
I think we can agree that she was the one that nudge-nudged everyone else to “take care of” problems. We saw her give him the silent treatment because he was still with Tammy.
@alicemorton9145
@alicemorton9145 Месяц назад
I think she helped kill her sister Stacey🥲
@animallover6645
@animallover6645 Месяц назад
oh 100% I may be a bit bias as am not a fan of a lot women but she was way more nastier than the rest.
@TriciaEllinger
@TriciaEllinger Месяц назад
Even if Alex was the fall guy and the hitman, Chad was there!!! He puts himself there. Being shot at and 19 days later she suddenly dies? I don't think so!! Add in the other bodies, I don't think so
@janebeatty9472
@janebeatty9472 Месяц назад
Yep
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
And THAT is why the prosecution wants the jurors to know that “paintball gun” was likely actually a rifle!
@stlmopoet
@stlmopoet Месяц назад
He's both hitman and fall guy.
@NewMe-iq5os
@NewMe-iq5os Месяц назад
Adam Cox left out that his brother Alex had been married once before. She left him because of the intimately close relationship he had with Lori. She spoke to the detectives about this. She said it wasn’t a typical brother/sister relationship and the whole family thought it was funny. And that he would go overseas a couple times a year to have weird sexual relationships. One of his conquests gives an interview on that.
@merricat3025
@merricat3025 Месяц назад
I didn't know he went overseas. I think Barry Cox, their dad SA Lori, Stacy and maybe Alex too.
@WolvesinFrance
@WolvesinFrance Месяц назад
​@@merricat3025Are the Cox parents alive, did they testify?
@jcmaryland4312
@jcmaryland4312 Месяц назад
Closer the kin, better the skin!! 😄. JK
@NewMe-iq5os
@NewMe-iq5os Месяц назад
@@merricat3025 The family all knew about his trips overseas. He went on one shortly after he killed Charles. It may be on a video from Hidden True Crime RU-vid channel. That is why they said he was so willing to do these things. That he felt shame about himself but Lori and Chad made him think God was using him.
@NewMe-iq5os
@NewMe-iq5os Месяц назад
@@WolvesinFrance Parents are alive. Very strange family. They lived in AZ but moved to St George, Utah shortly after Alex died. Adam claims his family disowned him because he was trying to help Charles (Charles paid for his plane ticket and then Adam bailed on Charles) but Adam also moved to St George, UT and said he has weekly dinners with his parents. I think we’ll learn more about how Adam bailed on Charles when Lori is tried in AZ.
@karenaltschwager5929
@karenaltschwager5929 Месяц назад
Chad had told others that tammy was going to die in a car accident.... gotta wonder when he sent her away to her parents if he did something to the vehicle but it didnt succeed.hmm
@janebeatty9472
@janebeatty9472 Месяц назад
Would be too obvious if he did something to the car. Now..if he had Alex or Lori run her off the road. There would be no guarantee she would die if that happened. Or, he was just getting people ready for her departure. The man is a manipulative snake.
@lisagrande9266
@lisagrande9266 Месяц назад
This is one of the most disturbing cases I’ve seen .
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
Don’t watch the Chad doermann case. I feel like that one is worse. But I can’t explain why. Maybe bc of the psychological TORTURE he put the mother through. 😢
@rolo4945
@rolo4945 Месяц назад
Why would he bury the first raccoon in the compost heap, then bury the second raccoon in the pet cemetery
@micheleheard8000
@micheleheard8000 Месяц назад
My thoughts exactly!
@catherinehargrave9539
@catherinehargrave9539 Месяц назад
I think Chad and Alex killed Tammy together. The bruises showed her being restrained by both arms. Another person had to be doing the suffocation.
@fawksgirl
@fawksgirl Месяц назад
Think I heard today Garth was at work until 1am, so they had plenty of time to harm Tammy.
@bizzeeBe
@bizzeeBe Месяц назад
I had heard that Garth wasnt home til later so it’s possible he wasnt there at the time of the murder
@catherinehargrave9539
@catherinehargrave9539 Месяц назад
@@fawksgirl Thank you, I went back and found that. I edited my comment.
@catherinehargrave9539
@catherinehargrave9539 Месяц назад
@@bizzeeBe Thank you, I went back and found that. I edited my comment.
@carrow1057
@carrow1057 Месяц назад
Love you Vinnie! Godfather of true crime. We are on this case until it’s resolved!
@Vikki_G_
@Vikki_G_ Месяц назад
Tammy had a beautiful smile.
@MargaretKearsey-dv1nk
@MargaretKearsey-dv1nk Месяц назад
I don t understand. Didn t they think the Woodcocks would eventually try to communicate sooner or later since they had a close relationship with JJ.
@fawksgirl
@fawksgirl Месяц назад
Exactly, how long did they think they could just live it up in Hawaii? Also if you kill two kids how stupid to bury them in your own yard. They aren't the smartest serial killers.
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 Месяц назад
No. They’re both narcissists and very high on the spectrum. When two narcs like that get together, they feed each others egos and they become so grandiose they’re delusional. They literally thought they could get away with this and they left sloppy arrows pointing to what they did all over the place.
@SD-co9xe
@SD-co9xe Месяц назад
They thought the world was ending in summer of 2020.
@eileenprevost5663
@eileenprevost5663 Месяц назад
Alex was a fall guy and the hit man. He was never going to survive his mission.
@james123stewart
@james123stewart Месяц назад
Should be on trial for husband number three also!
@lorrainesept-drayer4390
@lorrainesept-drayer4390 Месяц назад
I wonder if the "egg bucket" Tammy was carrying when she fell, was the same bucket which held Tylee's remains which were burnt and buried?
@macb8309
@macb8309 Месяц назад
😢
@audreyricci6383
@audreyricci6383 Месяц назад
She (Tylee) was buried in the pet cemetery.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
😮 good question ⁉️
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
​@@audreyricci6383 Tylee was mutilated and they burned her body in the fire pit, apparently that wasn't going well so they used the bucket for her body parts and then they buried her in the pet sematary. 😢
@lorrainesept-drayer4390
@lorrainesept-drayer4390 Месяц назад
I'm sure law enforcement have checked this out, as well as any tools or implements with identifying marks, fingerprints or DNA. I think this information has yet to be presented, and we will be surprised at what the physical evidence might tell us and who it implicates!
@honeybunch5765
@honeybunch5765 Месяц назад
Alex was hit man as per his sister and Chad's orders and their fall guy, BUT I believe Chad murdered Tammy.
@PollyAlice2000
@PollyAlice2000 Месяц назад
Am I the only one who thinks that a brother being that mental about “helping” his sister is pretty darn Freudian? Like, he has a “thing” for his sister?! Beyond cringey!
@sarabethleewilliams5610
@sarabethleewilliams5610 Месяц назад
The thing about the racoon being seen in daylight is not surprising to me since I used to have them in my yard at any time of the day or night. I had a certain tree that they liked and one mother had her babies under it every season after weaving something around the bottom of it to cover them. I even fed them on occasions and never minded them at all. I did not have a dog outside and my cats were inside cats for the most part so I didn't have to worry about them doing harm to pets. Perhaps I just had really sweet racoons versus the ones that are bothering people. Perhaps we just had a trusting and friendly relationship so they did not feel they had to hide in the daytime? I seem to usually have a very agreeable nature with animals and birds, butterflies etc.. I have fed racoons and birds in the wild also with no problems when I went camping all over the Oregon coast. I don't live in Idaho so maybe those racoons behave differently. Deer come into my yard also and have looked out my window many times to come face to face with them. I love them all. I did have a possum that hissed at me and showed me teeth that scared me as it was so aggressive and mean looking, lol. The possum seemed to appear after dark but after repeatedly shining a flashlight on it, it finally left and didn't return to scare me anymore. I assume it was startled by me and therefore would show an aggressive posture to try to scare me away. Squirrels, chipmunks etc.. have all been sweet with me and eaten from my hands. I consider myself blessed that I have never been bitten. I have heard many horror stories years after my camping days of people being harmed. I am grateful I didn't hear them before my encounters that left wonderful memories. I rambled but the point is that these people killed children and buried them in Chads' backyard. He just used the racoon story to cover up his activities in his back yard, much as he used the burning limbs thing to burn the body of Tylee. The digging and burning all involved Chad himself. Chad must have come up with the remains being pioneer children story to his children? Or Emma came up with it? Seems her attachment to the wallet of her father makes her a willing accomplice and she was right about not being Colby. Colby would not go along with killing others. Colby called his mother out regardless of her helping him financially at times. I wonder if Chad had killed any of his own children if the other ones would have just believed they needed to be killed and more left for the rest of them. They seem to have no care or concern for other children being murdered and buried in the back yard. That lack of feeling for young children is such a concern for me. How Emma can be a teacher without empathy of any kind for children is beyond me. I only heard her right after they located the bodies and there was nothing just like her father.
@janebeatty9472
@janebeatty9472 Месяц назад
There was no raccoon. They murdered Tylee.
@debs42444
@debs42444 Месяц назад
What’s Slugo’s dark rating at this time?
@GC2024_
@GC2024_ Месяц назад
I love watching your recaps , you touch everything that happened during the days trial , its much appreciated, i love that you scan in close-up of CD and the witnesses. The only other recap i like is Lauren Matthias, & Nate Eaton !! Thank you Vinny ❤🎉❤
@TriciaEllinger
@TriciaEllinger Месяц назад
Someone could have accessed her email from home or from her phone, I bet Chad opened, deleted and blocked the email
@xx.hannahrose
@xx.hannahrose Месяц назад
I agree. I don’t think she even saw the email because it was opened and blocked, so any future emails would be blocked too. I bet Lori told CD that her “husband” Charles contacted her so CD was on the lookout for
@TriciaEllinger
@TriciaEllinger Месяц назад
@@xx.hannahrose Yes!!!! And then Charles was murdered! Boom! Problem over 😔
@susieq1969
@susieq1969 Месяц назад
Chad could have very well been the one to go into her emails and read the email from Charles to Tammy and then he deleted it and put Charles on block.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
His question did he kill Tammy, in my opinion the answer is yes i believe Alex killed Tammy and Chad was in the room with him.. my own opinion.
@jcmaryland4312
@jcmaryland4312 Месяц назад
Possibly Chad let Alex inside and left for a little while and came back to call 911, I don't think Chad had the balls to do it himself
@Suz_408
@Suz_408 Месяц назад
So glad you are taking this up.
@paulalyus9237
@paulalyus9237 Месяц назад
If Kay hadn’t raised the alarm on JJ being missing, I wonder if Lori would have got away with killing Tylee. Lori’s family believed what she told them about Tylee being at college, she could have told them Tylee moved to another country later on and they would have probably believed her Poor Tylee would have been left in the dirt in Chad’s yard and no one would have ever known 😢
@lucyElaine5656
@lucyElaine5656 Месяц назад
I think Emma and Garth are involved
@Pditts
@Pditts Месяц назад
Phone dormant and location is totally Damning evidence.
@usakiwi1986
@usakiwi1986 Месяц назад
Let's not forget Chad searched SWS winds the day he had the fire, when Tylee was murdered
@tinawoodell4734
@tinawoodell4734 Месяц назад
What a movie this story would make
@sim-b
@sim-b Месяц назад
I really hope the jury get it right - knowing what we all know about these vile people
@paulawhitaker6322
@paulawhitaker6322 Месяц назад
Question: have Larry and Kay been attending Chad's trial? And opinion: I think Chad deleted the email from Charles Vallow to Tami. Jus sayin.
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
Yes they are there in Idaho, they are also holding a vigil for JJ while they are there and they have invited everyone that wants to attend.
@North_West1
@North_West1 Месяц назад
Alex died of pulmonary embolisms (lung blood clots). Court TV can you get a toxicologist on. I don’t think there is a drug/poison that can led to that cause of death
@Friendofstfrank
@Friendofstfrank Месяц назад
eye drops can.
@rick-grim
@rick-grim Месяц назад
Didn’t prescription Fen-Phen cause pulmonary embolisms?
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
Malachite look it up and if you remember that's the stone Lori bought with Charlie's Amazon account for her and Chad's wedding rings .
@jeannemarie5908
@jeannemarie5908 Месяц назад
@@marciayoung8735 Dust particles .. malachite dust.
@janebeatty9472
@janebeatty9472 Месяц назад
@@jeannemarie5908I read up on that. He would have had been subjected to years of exposure to malachite dust in order to develop a toxicity level high enough in his body to kill him.
@lorabell3553
@lorabell3553 Месяц назад
He may have known all long how it wld turn out but he cldnt say no to his disgusting sister..
@stardust1246
@stardust1246 Месяц назад
Love your work Vinnie. Adam Cox hit the nail on the head with his theory.
@barbyrice3130
@barbyrice3130 Месяц назад
Both!
@micheleheard8000
@micheleheard8000 Месяц назад
Is it weird that you would have a pet cemetary in your backyard? And would you bury a random racoon in it? Tammy’s email to her son mentioned another racoon that was killed and buried in the COMPOST HEAP.
@lauramartin8036
@lauramartin8036 Месяц назад
I wouldn't believe a word Chads kids said, they would lie for their father probably because Chad would tell them it was a biblical reason that it wasnt lying, but Chad had a vision and was told they had to protect him, nothing would suprise me now especially after everything we have heard so far.
@lindag5504
@lindag5504 Месяц назад
This is just so so sick 🤢 can't believe this happens. Prayer for all of the rest of the families who are suffering from this. 💔🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Kellyla1960
@Kellyla1960 Месяц назад
Alex was the hitman
@jeannettesummers2857
@jeannettesummers2857 Месяц назад
Charles told both Lori and Chad that he was writing Tammy. It wouldn't be surprising that Chad controlled Tammy so well, he knew her passwords, went in to her work email, deleted, and blocked Charles without Tammy ever knowing.
@johannas.l.brushane2518
@johannas.l.brushane2518 Месяц назад
I wonder if not this is a case where two dislikable people get together and support eachother's worst sides to absolutely monstrous?
@TP-jt2cm
@TP-jt2cm Месяц назад
What a complex Family and murder craziness 😢!
@usakiwi1986
@usakiwi1986 Месяц назад
Yet no Raccoon found buried in their pet cemetery....
@artsy897
@artsy897 Месяц назад
Lori always had Alex in her control…look at Joe.
@jcmaryland4312
@jcmaryland4312 Месяц назад
He was getting more than sister love
@lauragarrette9220
@lauragarrette9220 Месяц назад
Hi Vinnie 💓 thanks for justice on this case for such beautiful souls always Laura from Arizona
@marciayoung8735
@marciayoung8735 Месяц назад
I leave my phone at home very often, and I leave the ringer off of it at night..
@jillianraby7890
@jillianraby7890 Месяц назад
He was home..It should of pinged even though it was off.
@pjlee562
@pjlee562 Месяц назад
Oh, please, as ifhe didn't have issues before the hurricane met the volcano 🙄
@spookshow6999
@spookshow6999 Месяц назад
No way. I believe it was a gun with a suppressor.
@teresamorrow2459
@teresamorrow2459 Месяц назад
Came in late so catching up!!
@vatrweaver5169
@vatrweaver5169 Месяц назад
Why are they dimmed... I would like to see every blink ‼️
@jackcampagna1575
@jackcampagna1575 Месяц назад
I saw people being cut up and thrown into a fire . This is crazy
@jeannemarie5908
@jeannemarie5908 Месяц назад
What? Where did you see such a horrific thing? I am sorry for you.
@jackcampagna1575
@jackcampagna1575 Месяц назад
Indiana because I saw 3 smoke stakes in the distance . The first grill
@monicascott2354
@monicascott2354 Месяц назад
Nobody can confirm it was Tammy who deleted Charles' email. It could've easily been Chad.
@sharonharrison3611
@sharonharrison3611 Месяц назад
Vinnie is so funny. Maybe the raccoon didn't wear it's mask.😂. This was such a bs explanation by Chad.
@CinqCollines
@CinqCollines Месяц назад
How about creep and murderer
@blackpoppymagazine
@blackpoppymagazine Месяц назад
Side note- i LOVE this woman reporter, she is 8s fabulous, succinct, clear, on point and lovely sunny smile, lets see more of her, shes a great Court TV asset clearly!
@MK-cc5ve
@MK-cc5ve Месяц назад
Tammy didn’t seem to be interpreting reality all too well. Someone in disguise fires a gun at her, attempts to murder her, and she minimizes it. Calling the Police immediately would have been prudent. And Charles sends her a secretive email to her work so that Chad can’t open it and learn that Charles knows about the affair. She responds by blocking any further communication about her husband’s adultery? I wonder if Charles had sent her the “evidence” of the affair if that would have jolted her into protecting herself.
@user-di8hm2jl2u
@user-di8hm2jl2u Месяц назад
What I find shocking is the emails between Tammy and her children talking about reading little tiny preschoolers as dark. Clearly they were all brainwashed.
@janebeatty9472
@janebeatty9472 Месяц назад
Chad gaslit his wife alot! As for the emails…police believe Chad had access to Tammy’s email account and believe she never saw Charles Vallow’s message about the affair. Can also explain about the preschoolers being “dark” too. Tammy was LDS and not a member of Chad’s little circle.
@user-di8hm2jl2u
@user-di8hm2jl2u Месяц назад
@@janebeatty9472 that thought had crossed my mind. The thing that troubles me is that Emma was involved with Julie Rose and Mark didn’t seem to be questioning those emails at all, which makes me believe that the family all had known something about these beliefs and were somewhat involved with those beliefs.
@kaemarie1605
@kaemarie1605 Месяц назад
THAT is the big question ⁉️
@michelet1287
@michelet1287 Месяц назад
This is why women must always have one individual who is non biased they can discuss concerns with. He had this woman so trained she didn't question this jerk! I would have told my sister or someone
@rchristy5767
@rchristy5767 Месяц назад
Chad was a grave digger, he probably knew a coroner would not want to blame family of suspicious death when husband is crying and suffering
@ShirleyJohnson-xd9vj
@ShirleyJohnson-xd9vj Месяц назад
I think Alex tried to be hitman but he kept missing! He was involved up to his eyeballs..imo
@zetrei984
@zetrei984 Месяц назад
I think it’s very disturbing how relaxed and calm Adam always is when he is talking about his own sister and brother killing his sisters kids. It’s weird to even talk about that so publicly? He even has a podcast about it. If your sister and brother had killed your sisters kids, would you be on youtube and on podcasts talking about it?
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