I am driving it. The first edition Stelvio with 280hp. It’s a hoot to drive, the way it goes in corners is impressive and puts a shame on many pseudo sports sedans
I love my Alfa Romeo Giulia! Everyone seems to skip the fact that it come standard with Forged pistons and crank shaft and Brembo brakes! It even has a carbon fiber drive shaft. Non driving enthusiast would never know what any of this means. These cars are definitely performance first.
The GME T4 engine uses cast pistons not forged. There was incorrect marketing material published from a 3d party site that incorrectly states they are forged. We had someone pop an engine with a big turbo and nitrous and he confirmed they are indeed normal cast parts. You can also look in eBay and see the design is clearly cast as well. The rods, and crankshaft do appear to be forged though, and the pistons while cast can take a ridiculous amount of power above stock. Mine is daily driven on 32lbs and my hybrid turbo is sitting on my table waiting for me to get time to install it.
@@JayDee-b5u This one is built by Nm Turbo, and MultiAir Tuning and Development is going to tune the platform. They are now able to adjust the multiair system for timing controll. Nm Turbo is offering these hybrids for $1,400
And suspensions have been engineered by the same guy who engineered the Ferrari Enzo suspensions. 2 billions euros worth platform is engineered by Alfa-Maserati-Ferrari engineers and former engineers, the best and most sophisticated platform humans ever built since.
I have a 2019 Stelvio TI and absolutely love it. I have had many sports, luxury, and performance cars. The Stelvio is the most fun to drive with usable performance and handling in all urban and road conditions. Some of the items you mention are nits that I have gotten used to. When my 3 year lease was up I bought and plan on keeping it unless Alfa comes out with an upgraded version. In addition my seat backs don't creak!
I own Stelvio TI, and I can only agree about the rattle in really cold weather. It must be below -10 C for it to happen. The seats are perfect, no fatigue after 1000 km trip. Climate control is good. Much better than in Mazda CX-5 which I owned before Stelvio. And if you need all these driving assist features, why do you need a sporty car which involves the driver into the driving process? Assistance is not needed here. And I don't interact with the infotainment screen at all. I've set the car up once and that's it. Now I just connect the phone and enjoy Android Auto. So it's more like looking for the issues where there are none.
MazdaCX5 Turbo is about 10X better in every aspect - particularly considering fuel consumption. ARS is is wobbling and skipping through corners and the noise inside the cabin is deafening!
Thanks for the review Marek. Every time I see a Stelvio I'm disappointed that there isn't a Giulia wagon instead. I understand that SUVs sell at the moment, but it's a shame that there hasn't been a car company that's been brave enough to say 'Hey, we're going to promote station wagons/estates again because they handle better and look sexy, but are just as practical'.
This is an amazing vehicle !!!! To be honest "This Guy" reviewing is just aweful ! I have one 2018 plenty miles 91,000 { ZERO PROBLEMS } This truck is a traveler, a warrior, small tank ! Fuel efficient, its not a penthouse but the well priced condo in the same building on the lower levels !
I have one in my driveway and the only thing it worries me is that I will not have any options in a few years when I want to change my car. Who has never driven one does not know what they're missing
6:56 Which driver aids are the Stelvio missing that the competition is offering? It has auto brake assistance, emergency brake assistance, active or passive lane keep assist, blind spot monitoring, adaptive cruise control, level 2 autonomous driving, traffic jam assist, down hill assistaance, torque delivery control, rear slip-differential, automatic 4x4 traction, you can even turn on automatic speed limit according to the speed limit on the road you're driving, automatic wipers, automatic lights ...and it has all the usual 3 characters stuff (ABS, ESP, etc.)
That saying should be "LEASED" a Alfa Romeo. That means you drive it while it is still under warranty and can dump it before you have to pay for the endless repairs from minor to significant.
As a 530hp ecc tuned granturismo gts owner just bought an alfa romeo ti veloce last month. loves it, the handling just makes all the week sides seems to be okay..
@@williamegler8771 What endless repairs? Is it your first Alfa Romeo? I leave the leasing option for the 3 / 4 years German offerings. The Stelvio is a keeper, because it is one of the last SUVs with an IC engine and sporty driving for drivers that still appreciate that stuff.
I have a 2020 in my driveway, and I love it. No issues with the paddle been in the way. Mine does not sound like a diesel. Back seat is bad(feels stiff and it does not recline at all) I agree with that. But is doesn't make that sound. Mine does not make any sound, when I'm locking the car. I have the base model.
I find it fashionably Vintage: great chassis , still very good, so so execution in respect to everyday use. The former will apply to the Maserati Grecale, expected to be up to modern standards for its class instead about the latter. Wish you'll get great pleasure to caress it in the flesh and let us know. Great review as usual, BravoMarek! as usual👏
I had the 2018 Sport and now presently drive a 2021, TI premium. A great SUV if you like to drive. I think if you lost some weight you would find the seats comfortable. I’m 6 ft and 225lbs and the seats are great. I would have to agree with you on the brakes though.
Thanks to my wife's totally irrational desires, an Alfa Romeo Stelvio is our new car. It won out over my original choice of a Subaru Outback or Forester. I am so far very happy with the choice as it takes the place of my very family unfriendly Mazda Miata. Now we have a sporty car that is also practical.
@ToOpen6seven Great. A very pleasant car to live with so far. If it proves trouble free during the Colorado winter, I'll consider another to replace the Subaru Outback.
I own the Stelvio Veloce (280) for a year and it's a gorgeous car in many ways. It's definitely for drivers, like old bmws were, not for (useless) huge-touchscreens-gadget lovers. The main thing that the car has to do 24/7 is actually.... driving! And Stelvio does that perfectly. The main problem is indeed dirt at doors entry as you mentioned. Why not to isolate this? (
I just purchased a 2021 Stelvio with 32K miles on it. It was a lease return that is in great shape. I understood going in that the car didn't have the sports package so no column shifter paddles nor a LSD in the rear - those can and will be added later though. What I liked cosmetically is that it has the unique Verde Visconti metallic green paint with a brown leather interior - a great color combo! Also this Stelvio has the 20" alloy wheels, and keeps all the chrome touches/accents which I prefer. This is my first modern Alfa, though I've had plenty 'vintage - pre-1995' models. Handling and performance are as advertised and I'm really happy with this purchase. I needed the practicality/space of a SUV, otherwise I would have been looking to buy a Giulia. I also considered a Jaguar F-Pace, but the slightly smaller Alfa fit my purposes better, handles better than the Jag, but truthfully the Jag wasn't too far behind + the Jag is a bit more luxurious. But then again, I couldn't be showing up at the local Alfa club meeting with the Jag, so the fix was in on the Stelvio!
Thank you Marek. If interior oldfashioned means not having a ridiculous 20” screen then I agree….After driving bmw I can tell the interior quality is lower but everything works solid good and is where it should be. This can be the best SUV for driving, average interior space and great design. Then we will blame the OEMs for mannufacturing more Prius…..
I’ve learned that getting an oil change is a bit tricky on the Alfa Romeo since it has a digital gauge which will throw a code if slightly over filled. I would like to know how many people take their Alfa Romeos to a generic oil change place and what their experience has been.
I own Stelvio Veloce and I do not get where he gets these prices. Probably it is dependant on the market as mine was cheaper. In the price was included 5 year warranty and free maintenance services. There is no way you would X3 or Q5 for that money while Tiguan and RAV4 are different class. I always viewed Alfa Romeos as the class higher than economy and lower than German luxury. If you view it like that then buying one makes sense :)
I don't take discounts into account. Today there's a discount, tomorrow there isn't. Apparently in Poland they were handing out Alfas with every pack of Lays chips, and people stopped buying chips to avoid getting an Alfa :-)
My Stelvio Veloce ended up costing over 80k (71k with discounts) ...because I've added almost every extra there was to add. But in the end, I don't prefer the German counterparts in terms of luxury, only their infotainment. I prefer the high quality real leather I have all around and I prefer the comfy quiet ride the Stelvio offers (when not in Dynamic).
So wait, what other cars offer 80% of the driving experience of Stelvio, but are much better in other compartments such as practicality? Including the wagons?
I like it and there isn't one in my drive away because.... If I was going for a new car and would get an Alfa, then i would get the Giulia. Far more beautiful and I bet it will be better on speedway's and have better mileage.
7:35 "The seats are terrible" Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe I have those very same bucket seats from the Veloce version. I'm 6.25' (or 190cm tall) and I love the seats. I have absolutely no problem at all with the driving position or seat configuration. My wife is a lot shorter than me and has the same comfort experience as I do. ...same with all the friends that tried it.
I was about to ask that. I think "the seats are terrible" is extremely bold claim. I am happy to find and read your comment. I am planning to buy Stelvio veloce pack and when I watch this video, I pressed. After I read your comment, I saw that this claim is a false alarm.
@@barsk76 Maybe he meant the seats are terribly good. 😊 Last month made a 1000Km trip and 3 days later the trip back again for a total of 2000Km and with the level 2 autonomous drive on highways it was very, very pleasant. Even my 87 years old mother didn’t complaint. You can trust the Veloce bucket seats alright. They’re very good.
9:43 I did like it a lot ...and that's why there's one (2021) on my driveway. 😎 It's not perfect, the infotainment could be better, the rear camera is a joke, the turning signal level should operate like the wipers lever (turning in and off pushing the same direction), it has no ventilation seats, the panoramic roof is big, but only opens for a relatively small fraction. The Start/stop resets to ON every time the car starts... But the interior quality is top (even a friend with an X3 says the same), the ride quality is super and the pleasure to drive unique. If I was going to get a SUV in this category now, I would try out the Grecale which is a stretched Stelvio with better infotainment even better interiors and hopefully a close enough driving experience. EDIT: It has the same Giorgio platform than the Stelvio
Some odd points made in this review - I’ve owned one for over 2 years and it’s a superb car - any limitations are massively outweighed by the driving dynamics and pleasure
I think the pricepoint is too high for such an SUV. Thanks Marek for displaying more of Stellantis products! Its intresting to see where the products are headed qualitywise.
I got a 2019 in viscounti green for my wife because I wanted something different from all the German stuff. She had boy friend now because it turns heads and I can wait for her get home from work so I could for to the grocery store it’s a drivers car.
I barely see stelvios cause of the price point.i hope in stellantis group will consider bringing back smallest alfas like mito . giullieta with more down to earth prices so people can buy them...I dont think 60K for stelvio is the real deal no matter how i love alfa and their driving experience..i am waiting you to review tonale as well when its out🙃
It is pretty expensive nowadays, as most cars became due to semiconductor shortage. But i think you can find a great deal every now and then. I bought my 2019 280 giulia veloce in 2020 new with 36900 eur and most options (except adaptive cruise, panoramic roof and rear heated seats).
tested last week same Stelvio. I liked it a lot, the price is good, but I can’t buy a car with top spec with Bi-Xenon lights, having in view that I drive daily cars with Multibeam in the last 6 years. I’m waiting for the model with LED lights
I was a bit skeptical of the xenon myself, but it doesnt really matter. A lot of people do just fine with halogen. As long as the road is being lit properly by the headlights, why would it matter?
@@lucianepure504 I agree, theit bi xenon are not even “smart”. Fot the sake of god, even nissan quasqhuai (whatevet it spelled) gen2 had bi-led headlights as an option. Latest and greatest headlights should be standard in all makets where you have sizable widlifw, like moos, 4 seasons with winter where it gets dark around 15:00. Great lights is safety. And the car as tested is at 60K EUR, its not cheap.
I am leasing a VW Tiguan which costs almost the same (2.0 TSI 245 PS 4Motion all available optionals), it has less power, it is slightly smaller but it is better built and has a terrific infotainment and ADAS. I would have loved to get the Stelvio, really. So, why is the Stelvio not sitting in my garage? Well the price of the car does not tell much, in fact the leasing fees for a Stelvio are much higher than the leasing fees of an equally priced Tiguan, this because the Stelvio residual value is lower, so I would have had to adsorb the depreciation myself. Sorry Alfa, maybe next time...
@@goranjuric3539 I own a bicycle, but I cannot carry wife and dog in it, believe me I tried. The point is that probably I am not a good enough driver to understand the "driving pleasure", so I went for comfort and practicality.
OK, after watching your video about Tonale PHEV and this one, I am sure... you are an Alfa hater. Never mind, not all the people can value the beauty and the human centred drive pleasure.
Guess all the reviewers like the excessive droning of the engine under full throttle - while at the same time they complain about the noise a hybrid engine develops under the same circumstances....
There's a difference between the noise involving a conventional gearbox, and the noise the engine makes with CVT. At constant speed it doesn't matter, but the sound of acceleration with CVT is unpleasant, and it is difficult to judge the acceleration.
I do hope the fad for SUVs dies at some point in the future. But as you said, this is at least sporty rather than just a hatchback on stilts. Creaking backrests .... ah, traditional Italian quality. Looks great, will fall to pieces within a few short years.
I honestly don't like how the Stelvio looks and even if I did, I can't afford one. My T-Roc is slow, but very economical and practical enough to cover my needs.
@@MarekDrivesENG I first noticed it when I was cleaning the seats but honestly no one sits back there except my dog so I just ignore it. I did get it secondhand but never told the dealer about this issue.
Resale value will probably be terrible in the U.S. Best to get the Macan for much better resale value, quality, and features. Or save a lot of money and get a Mazda CX-5 Signature.
I love your final comment.. “It’s the ….” Fab review and the looks nice but I am not liking the fuel consumption or that dashboard, sorry FIAT……… I mean Alpha
I was in love with my Giulia and Alfa Romeo as a brand, however, I will never again buy/recommend another Alfa Romeo in my life. I had the brake by wire system fail on me and it caused me to crash and total the car. They sent someone from Bosch to diagnose the vehicle and in the charts it clearly showed that something malfunctioned (brakes were slammed 2 seconds before the impact at 40 MPH and it took more than 1.5 seconds for the speed to start going down.) Stellantis told me that they were not going to take responsibility for it and that I needed to have my insurance pay for the vehicle. Absolute garbage. I will never recommend this car brand to anyone again! Buy an AUDI, BMW or Mercedes instead.
Speak with a lawyer straight away. He (or she) knows very well what to do with the representative, they may give you another car even if they don’t want to.
@@Panagiotis_Pap I actually tried to sue them, but every attorney I talked to sad that they cannot do anything about it unless someone died or was paralyzed. I was actually shocked to hear that. I was 100 percent sure I would be able to get something out of them because of this. Sadly no though :(
Aren't You tired of copy/paste this comment at almost every Giulia test? Insurance is just exactly for that - to pay when something bad happen (of course, all according the law). S...t happens - You think Alfa is the one and only which cannot fail? There are brands much more "premium" and they fail - it is just plain probability - there is 50000 so 1 is a failure, someone can buy it = it is You - Yes, it is awful, totally agree - but this is life (more awful, someone can die! Yes, it is hard but this is how the world is working right now). Mercedes, Audi, BMW You say - do You want me to believe that they cannot fail, OMG! This is serious? Wake up! This is new world - everything can fail (almost always in the worse time - Murphy's Law).
@@willknott9245 No, he is not tired to copy/paste, he just did what he should do. I was ready to go for the Giulia but this is the second event (I’ve read) having to do with the faulty “brake by wire” system. The first one, was with a Stelio driver in Australia. I am disabled, and I have to be extremely safe. I think, Alfa should stop using “brake by wire” system and have a normal one instead, like all other cars.
