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Alfred Hitchcock: Dialogue versus Pure Cinema | Film Analysis 

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"It's like a lot of films one sees today ... they are what I call 'photographs of people talking'. It bears no relation to the art of the cinema"
Alfred Hitchcock often described his approach to movie-making as 'pure cinema' - but how did he reconcile this approach with the unavoidable necessity of expositional dialogue?
By breaking down two keys scenes - from 'Rear Window' (1954) and 'Strangers On A Train' (1951) - we will explore the subtle ways in which Hitchcock was able to use sound and images in conjunction to further his stories.
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@LetTheWritersWrite
@LetTheWritersWrite 5 лет назад
I just got in a huge argument with a buddy for my bold statement of calling expository dialogue lazy. So glad I found this in my search for proof. Lol
@errwhattheflip
@errwhattheflip Год назад
expository dialogue can be good if done creatively, and sometimes it's pretty difficult to deliver exposition without it, depending on how complex the premise is. For example, I don't really think there's any other way to deliver the necessary exposition for a movie like Inception.
@goodtitle686
@goodtitle686 4 года назад
The reason why Hitchcock didnt like dialogue was very simple... He started making films in silent era.
@Kurosawa3
@Kurosawa3 3 года назад
That simplifies it too much. What the root you are getting at is the purity of the image over sound/dialogue.
@WalterLiddy
@WalterLiddy 9 месяцев назад
That maybe explains why it was so obvious to him, but not why he preferred pure cinema. If dialogue did the job better, he'd have grown and changed to accommodate. The fact is, while useful at times, he realized that if something could be conveyed visually it was and is invariably more effective both for audience comprehension and visceral response. Cinema at its core is not about verbiage.
@ladymanderley
@ladymanderley 6 лет назад
This is what I've been thinking, as I watch more and more old Hollywood films; I think this is what makes the films from the Golden Age different. In old films, the characters talk as ordinary people talk (albeit more theatrical), they joke around and speak in a less direct language, but we can still understand the plot, where the film is driving us to, through the acting, the framing, cinematography, editing, etc. But (I don't hate, nor anti-contemporary cinema at all) now, more often plot direction is more or less told through the characters' conversation, especially among the more commercial cinema. Before I watched this video, I thought that's probably partly because of the difference in how people talk back then and now; but, while it's still true that it's due to generational difference, I believe that it's also true that mainstream cinema, in this particular aspect, is going further away from the 'pure cinema' that Hitchcock is talking about in this video. But it's also understandable, since nowadays, more than a century has passed since the first notion of 'cinema' is invented, and most people now take films as granted, and the industry favours more commercial films; while in Hitchcock's days, there were much more rooms for experiments with the new medium, and thus the filmmakers might be more aware with the notion of 'pure cinema' apart from commercial purposes, while the audience had much less of films and modes of watching compared to now.
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 6 лет назад
I think the change in approach is due to the influence of television. With a smaller screen, the shots have to be tighter and closer so as to make sure that the audience is able to pick-up on the necessary information, and if the shots are tighter, they're more likely to be close-ups of actors delivering dialogue as that is the most efficient way of communicating the necessary information. So given that we're now several generations deep with filmmakers having grown up with television as their primary form of visual storytelling, we are starting to see the impact of this influence.
@bonquva
@bonquva 5 лет назад
@@TakeMeToYourCinema Thats why imo, directors who are influenced by the movies back then make such fine movies. Quentin tarantino does just that, normal conversations and people love it but they dont make them that way anymore. They really should though because almost everyone appreciates it .
@WalterLiddy
@WalterLiddy 9 месяцев назад
I've also noticed trends related to concepts such as suspense vs surprise. Audiences today seem to prefer an unexpected alarm over relishing the horrible inevitability of a danger we are aware of (as Hitchcock said, the bomb under the table that the audience knows is there but the characters don't). An example. Check out this scene from Dr. Zhivago. The way Lean shows us from the start that the Cossacks are preparing for inevitable conflict, and the way he cuts these shots with those of the peaceful protesters marching, serves to build almost unbearable suspense as we know that violence is inevitable. I suspect if this were shot today, it would open on the protesters rather than the Cossacks, and would stay with them as they make their way around the corner. Then there'd be a shock as they walk right into the unexpected line of cavalry. And that might work adequately. But it wouldn't be as good as this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YPglxw7E1X0.html&ab_channel=WWMovieClips
@owenshaw8925
@owenshaw8925 7 лет назад
A cinematic hero.
@saigokun
@saigokun 7 лет назад
Good analysis of Hitchcock's pure cinema.
@timongortz6191
@timongortz6191 7 лет назад
Great video! I used your analysis on a presentation about hitchcocks style and it was great!
@blueberrypanquakes
@blueberrypanquakes 6 лет назад
What's interesting though is that if you look at a movie like North by Northwest, for the entire first hour, Hitchcock turns that general perspective - the distrust for dialogue versus visual storytelling - on its head. The story told through dialogue is the true story. The things communicated visually are all false.
@prathamraina9445
@prathamraina9445 3 года назад
amazing analysis. one of my writing friends recommended me when we had two different classes. one on show don't tell, the other on dialogue and I was split in the middle. this kinda content helps a lot. thank you so much. subscribed!
@imammarcocahyono3537
@imammarcocahyono3537 3 года назад
Unlike most RU-vid videos here, this one really do incorporate the visual with simple but on-point explanation. And it's even done under 10 minutes
@akhildondapati6145
@akhildondapati6145 4 года назад
Very good analysis.. Thank you Keep doing more
@WalterLiddy
@WalterLiddy 9 месяцев назад
Given Hitchcock's increasingly evident mastery of the medium, it's surprising so few have in any obvious way adopted his techniques. Of course, Brian DePalma is practically an apostle, but by and large when people say a movie is 'Hitchcockian', they don't even mean it's directed in a way reminiscent of Hitchcock. Rather, they mean it's a thriller, or is suspenseful, or perhaps in some other trivial way reminds them of the Master's work. I have to say again, you snagged the awesomest channel name on RU-vid.
@enriquesinghjr
@enriquesinghjr 3 года назад
That continuous shot in Rear Window (which is part of the opening of the movie) actually seems like there's someone inside the apartment spying on Stewart's character, when in fact there was nobody there, it transitions to him shaving.
@kamilziemian995
@kamilziemian995 Год назад
Very good video essay.
@waynejamel6703
@waynejamel6703 5 лет назад
dialogue can create suspense. Like radio or telling a story standing in front of people. You can paint a picture with your words. I do prefer when standing in front of people to try to tell the story without relying on words when it is not necessary. Like showing a scared face instead of saying the character is scared.
@hmeimani
@hmeimani 7 лет назад
Great video.
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 7 лет назад
:) Glad you enjoyed it.
@mudasirshora77
@mudasirshora77 Год назад
Spot on
@oludascribe
@oludascribe 7 лет назад
This is great, Thanks.
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 7 лет назад
Olu Yomi Ososanya thanks a lot. Glad you enjoyed it.
@vitorferreira8782
@vitorferreira8782 8 лет назад
Great video, man!!
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 8 лет назад
+Vitor Ferreira Glad to hear that you enjoyed it!
@vitorferreira8782
@vitorferreira8782 8 лет назад
Take Me To Your Cinema greetings from Brazil!!
@THEDONTTELLSHOW
@THEDONTTELLSHOW 3 года назад
Great essay, as you can tell by our name; we're all about showing not telling also.
@ShootMeMovieReviews
@ShootMeMovieReviews 4 года назад
I love your channel name.
@landoncamper5298
@landoncamper5298 7 лет назад
Hitch was a genius, no doubt, in fact I find him one of the greatest of film makers. Hitch was a grand-scheme director, being able to manipulate the audience with visuals to tell the story, which was no doubt his talent. But to say it's a superior way to tell a story isn't a fair statement. Dialogue is the most revealing thing about a character, it's how we make our judgement of him and if the story your telling is a very character based one it's much better. You take for example Hemingway (which is a funny coincidence, because Hitch tried to get Ernest to write scripts for him), he doesn't babble during his novels. As an author he says very little, he gives brief descriptions of the characters and then allows them to tell the stories in their words. If you're good at writing dialouge I prefer telling the story through it, and allowing the camera to be the voice of reason, so to speak, for the audience, but then again I'm not Alfred Hitchcock, and no one else ever will be. Artist should have the freedom to tell their story how they see fit.
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 7 лет назад
Landon Camper Agreed. But you have to admit, when it comes to exposition and plot information, dialogue can be a bit of crutch and to rely on it so heavily can be a lazy.
@landoncamper5298
@landoncamper5298 7 лет назад
Im not so sure I could admit that, honestly. I deffinetly understand where your coming from, but I think it all goes back to the artist. Hitch chose not to do it because he didn't prefer it, which is good because if he'd have attempted it it would not have been good. But then I say someone like Quentin Tarantino, where meaningless chatter and dialouge is what makes his movies so real and appealing. Like I said earlier if it's done right dialouge is the most telling outlet, in my opinion, to tell a story. But like all humans, I'm biased, I prefer more character based stories. But that by no means that I can't see value in doing it other ways because I certainly can.
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 7 лет назад
Landon Camper yes, but what're you're talking about is character. I'm specifically referring to it's use as a way to convey exposition or plot information. The example used in the video, from Jurassic World, demonstrates what I mean precisely. With Tarantino, the whole idea is that his characters deliberately and conspicuously don't talk about the plot they're in. Tarantino has talked about this often. On a macro level though, I think we're on the same page: it's all about finding interesting and engaging ways to tell the audience what they need to know.
@landoncamper5298
@landoncamper5298 7 лет назад
Take Me To Your Cinema Tarantino took a lot of inspiration as a writer from Elmore Leonard, another writer who let the story be told by characters. When you say that I'm speaking about characters, your right, but in my view characters are what makes the plot worth telling in a story, so by that good dialouge is a telling way to do it. I'm sure if you'd have took Hitchcock to see the opening scene of Resevoir Dogs, other than having Madonna's big dick in his left ear, he'd have considered that scene a photograph of talking. And by his defenition, I suppose it is, but my defenition differs. When I see that scene, I'm entriqued to the story, more than I'd be if it'd have been a breath taking visual manipulation. But like I said, I'm biased. You did a really good job by making Jurassic Park the example in the video, but I might also add that the dialoge in that film is pretty generic and not very well done. Dialouge is hard to do, but when it's right its the best cinema.
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 7 лет назад
Landon Camper I understand your argument. I think maybe we're talking at cross-purposes. As you say, the Jurassic World dialogue is bland, but that's because it's purely functional - and on top of that, it's not even functional because it's superfluous. Ultimately, I feel that's the point - we should be comparing good examples to bad examples in order to highlight what makes the former good, as opposed to taking two good examples and trying to debate their different merits.
@filmnobelpreis
@filmnobelpreis 4 года назад
Hitch did not have a distaste for dialogue. He had a distaste of films of people talking. The dialogue in his films often was superb.
@AranooGames
@AranooGames 8 лет назад
Great! Moar!
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 8 лет назад
+Aran/Show Don't worry, there's more on the way :D
@AB5997
@AB5997 2 года назад
I wonder what Hitchcock would think about Eric Rohmer and Nuri Bilge Ceylan?
@aureliageorges696
@aureliageorges696 5 лет назад
Thank you for the film analysises. I appreciate them. But I really don't see the point of having some music run over your comments, the film scenes, etc etc, it distracts us, disturbs our thinking, and holds no link to your point (ex "Que sera sera" over dramatic Hitch film shots).
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 5 лет назад
Point taken and noted. Though, in the case of Que Sera Sera, that's specifically because it comes from The Man Who Knew Too Much, so I thought it was nice nod to that.
@larskaaber9869
@larskaaber9869 Год назад
another reason for Hitchcock's distaste for dialogue could be that he paid no attention to it and wasn't a good personal director by any standards; his actors were left entirely to their own devices. For this reason, Cary Grant in "North by Northwest" might as well have been played by James Stewart, just as "Rear Window" could have been played by Grant. His actors were Parcheesi pieces to him. This is not to belittle Hitchcock's genius, but it certainly did not lie in personal direction, and he would have completely screwed up a script like "All About Eve". Not that he would ever have undertaken such a project, of course.
@sgolowka
@sgolowka 6 лет назад
ISA i ASAdoin to sleep
@sajithks97
@sajithks97 6 лет назад
Hitchcock is great in his own way. So is Tarantino.
@AHHHHHHHHHHHHl
@AHHHHHHHHHHHHl 6 лет назад
Every filmmaker is great in their own way.
@Thespeedrap
@Thespeedrap 4 года назад
Hitchcock and Kubrick are the masters of cinema while Scorsese and Tarantino are the students.
@jimmypete
@jimmypete Год назад
But talk is cheap! 🤣🤣🤣
@MrMegatony73
@MrMegatony73 7 лет назад
So Dialogue...film's representation of the primary form of human communication...is a lazy way to tell a story? You realize we have been telling stories with Dialogue waaaay longer than we have been making film? I mean dont get me wrong, films that are full of dialogue that lacks substance can be boring. But to say the simple act of using Dialogue as a primary driver for telling a story is lazy does not make sense. You can use well written dialogue to further the story equally as the other visual tools the film medium grants its creators.
@TakeMeToYourCinema
@TakeMeToYourCinema 7 лет назад
"But to say the simple act of using Dialogue as a primary driver for telling a story is lazy does not make sense" ... it does make sense, you just don't agree with it. Regardless, that's not what the video is saying at all. I'm quite dismayed that that is the message you took from it - I guess I'll have to work on making the message clearer. The point was that, firstly, too often lazy, expository dialogue is used at the expense of solid visual storytelling, and secondly, that great filmmakers such as Hitchcock can find ways to use both in tandem - to use the visual elements in a way that enhances and expands the information given in the dialogue.
@ZerogunRivale
@ZerogunRivale 6 лет назад
Your point is irrelevant. Yes, we have been telling stories using dialogue for a longer period of time, but that is because all we had for most of history were writing tools in which we could write dialogues. However, film is a visual medium. And if you go into the history of visual mediums, they are all meant to be visually driven. As far back as the cave painting, they didn't need word bubbles to portray what it is they were trying to communicate. Painters throughout history didn't need dialogue to tell a story through their paintings. Film, like its forebears, are visual mediums meant to convey story and meaning through visual activity. If a film were to rely more on dialogue then on visuals, then the question becomes, "if you're going to rely on words so much, then what's the point of wasting your money having made a film when you could have just made it a novel and been done with it?" You would have conveyed what you would have wanted much better in a medium it was meant for and at only a fraction of the cost. It should be no surprise that the best films ever made are visual. Stanley Kubrick, Scorsese, Hitchcock, Fellini, etc. were all extremely visual filmmakers.
@PartySpock
@PartySpock 6 лет назад
bullschit
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