The oldest question in human history. "Is it really gay if you're doing it with an exact copy of yourself? Or just an advanced form of masturbation?... Also you're both robots." ~ Aristotle
DarkPhoenixSaga More like an actor who knows it's good to keep friends in the business. Ridley Scott likes him, so he casts him and Fassbender isn't going to turn his friend down. We see this with the new Alien movies and with The Counselor (that was Ridley, right?). Plus, you never know how a movie is going to turn out as an actor. Especially when there are reshoots and changes to script.
or maybe its because there is actually no decent characterization in covenant and in alien, the characters are actually interesting. but thats just my opinion
Adam Johnson character development is what everyone complained about in Prometheus. No enough xenos blood and guts too much talking. They listen and people are still pissed....
Keith MacDonald 10/10 bait! Like that’s the best bait I’ve ever seen and I’m not even being ironic I was so close to getting triggered and flaming your ass but I don’t think you were being serious
*"character development is what everyone complained about in Prometheus. No enough xenos blood and guts too much talking. They listen and people are still pissed...."* Yup. You could not ask for a more detailed, scientific breakdown of where the xeno is from, yet people call these 'failed prequels'. No one will ever be happy till they see an engineer crash on LV426 -- a scene that tell us *nothing* which already played in our head way back in 1979. This is Star Wars all over again. Three movies all lead up to an Anakin/Obi Wan duel we already knew the outcome of in the 70's.
That would make an excellent found footage horror film Investigator: "I'm sensing a very strong column of dark energy in the room. Fourteen cameras have been set up in the doll room . . . " Voice: "HI I'M CHARLES STILES MYSTERY DIN----" Everyone: **screams and runs**
It really annoyed me how they gave Katherine Waterston's character the same hair and tank top thing as Ripley in Aliens, just irritating. Ripley is one of the coolest characters in any movie, ever- you can't just stick her look on someone else and kind of pretend they're the same.
Headcanon: David didn’t create the Xenomorphs. The Engineers did. David just made some of his own. That’s why they look slightly different. They aren’t prototypes, they’re fan-made.
David DIDN'T create the xenomorphs at ALL. They WERE created by the Engis (or at least, they created the xenomorph variants that we are familiar with). He was simply enamored by them and was trying to emulate what the engis did and to improve on it. This is explicit in the films. The question is whether or not the variant seen in the original ALIEN (1979) is a descendant of David's xenomorphs or not and whether the engis created xenomorphs or simply evolved them from something already existing. The thing is, we already know of several xenomorph variants, and they somehow adapt their host/prey's DNA into theirs when they are "born", as can be seen from the similarity in looks from the prometheus alien and engineers, and in the (non-canonical) AvP movies, where we see a predalien, born from a predator. We also see statues/carvings of xenomorphs in the films that resemble the original xenomorphs from 1979. And they are on engi worlds and ships, meaning that they predate david altogether.
i think its clear David just refined something the engineers already created. the deacon seen at the end of prometheus is clearly the figure depicted in the mural. Then david tookt he black goo and tried to create his own
@@supremeworld87 A little understated feature of the "original" '79 alien is the way his transparent dome mirrors the crew: it's meant to evoke a macabre space helmet. I'm warming to the idea that the brutish, inelegant Big Chap, with all his bio-mechanical tubes and pipes and seams, was because David didn't understand the advanced engineer technology, and created a compromise by accident, that made it slightly more "human". The majority of the aliens features fit in with engineer aesthetic; the jet black coloring, the skeletal appearance, but the parts of him that look more mechanical are out of place, seemingly because they were something introduced by an inhabitant of earth, and a robot at that, who better understood hydraulic pistons and pipes than muscles and sinew. The same goes for his cranial dome: it was Davids answer to an environmental suit, based on his crewmates helmets. Of course, all this begs the question of _how_ exactly David created the xenomorph. What, did he bust out a little genome editing labratory down there? It's not like he had test subjects, or industrial manufacturing, or _electricity._ All he had was Shaw, and he blew that load pretty early one, so to speak
Yeah, the whole franchise is grounded in weird sexuality. Penis-headed monsters that grow out of smaller vagina-mouthed monsters with a bonus face-raping tail, and e'erybody gets pregnant
@UCbm4fk_aDBXHHQfTi3gTjdw I can only access this comment from notifications. Just so you know, with that attitude, most people won't see your comments because they're be censored. Guess the past 5 years of making comments have been a waste of time for you.
That's not homoerotic though. Because it's Fassbender/Fassbender. If anything, it's masturbatory. Which....still fits with the whole "in love with himself" idea.
@@dimitriwarchief301 this comment is two years old but I need you to know I think about this frequently. It is perhaps the funniest reply to a comment I've seen. Thank you for ur service
They weren't the colonists, they were just part of the ship crew. The colonists were still sleeping in their pods and there was tons of them. The movie may be stupid in a lot of ways, but don't be equally stupid in your criticisms of it.
Makes sense if you want people concerned about establishing and maintaining human settlement balanced against those who are serving to make more babies
I saw a bootleg of alien covenant and I thought, "this movie is pretty good. Why is everyone complaining?" Then like a a month later I realized I saw Prometheus.
DanielMG I bought this one bootleg of Alien Covenant at some Mexican shop in Atlanta to see if it was as bad as people said,but I couldn't get past the fact that they had the audacity to put that anti-bootleg screen in the beginning
But that's really the reason why they cut the character development scenes out - because most people would find them boring. I noticed this when I watched the original Alien with my friends, and they were all like "what is this boring crap" and I tried to explain pacing, character development and all this stuff to them and they were like "nah let's watch something not boring"
+snakes for eyes That sucks man; when my dad built up this movie for me, and got me to watch it when I was 14, I thought it was great. Every friend I've shown it to has been frightened and interested. I wish modern audiences weren't so prone to finding pacing boring.
Naw, more like Terminator: basically, most are just here to see the alien, like how most could care less about John Connor, and just want to see Arnold.
Aliens: Fireteam Elite was pretty good too, a real fun horde shooter. Much different than Isolation, not nearly as smart and story-based, but still really fun and *sort of* takes the place Aliens: Colonial Marines was supposed to.
@callmecatalyst a short moment in a RU-vid video isn't the same as a short film 😂😂. Now if ur saying alien covenant is the short film that's just not true 😂
I'm so glad you gave this the full treatment. The second I found out there were deleted scenes that actually built character, I gave up. They actively undermined the film in the editing room. Also I was excited when I heard Amy Seimetz from Upstream Color was in the movie. And she ended up playing a woman who made it on the ship due to affirmative action because she had an extra chromosome that made her slip on blood and not shoot a gun right and burn to death. So good use of a fantastic actress I'd say.
Wizzurd I believe that had Turkish Airlines help in the effects with the Xenomorph, we could have gotten a film that rivals that of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy in special effects. But one can dream.
I laughed so hard at the bit about Michael Fassbender picking his films by dart board. He's good but for every good role he has, there's a few odd roles that make you wonder what got him into taking the role
Every time a character takes off a helmet or opens a door to an alien planet I can almost hear Guy Fleegman yelling "HEY! Don't open that! It's an alien planet! Is there air? You don't know!"
Yup. He does have a last name. hehe. He just panics in hilarious ways. Not that much later in the movie Captain Nesmith is giving orders to the crew and he calls Guy by his last name. But it is such a nothing throwaway line in the middle of some action that it's really easy to miss. Then at the end of the movie when new "The Journey Continues" trailer is being shown the character of 'Roc' Ingersol is credited as being played by Guy Fleegman.
Alien: Covenant was over when the crew left the ship WITHOUT wearing helmets. Literally within the first 15 minutes of the movie. As soon as I saw that I knew the movie was shit.
Explain to me how Ralph, a RU-vid with less than 1M subscribers, made a scene of him running down the hallway look 1000x better than any of those nostalgia critic movies
+sLeePy How so? 3 is only marginally better, and Resurrection and Prometheus were far worse. So unless Alien and Aliens are the entire series, it's far from an insult.
Nice to see someone else found the "I'll do the fingering" part hilarious. I pointed it out to a friend and she told me that it's just me being gay. It's not subtext; it's straight up text, honey.
Oxygen does not burn. It is not flammable, but it is an oxidizer. Oxygen feeds fire, so it's dangerous to use around something that is burning because it will help the fire burn much more quickly.
Prometheus's weakness was trying to be too connected to the Alien Franchise without focusing on its own story. Alien Covenant's weakness is fucking up its own mythos and being a terrible sequel to Prometheus.
+Dr Strangelove Alien fans didn't ask for prequels in the first place. Ridley should have made Prometheus it's own movie, completely unconnected to the Alien franchise.
Alien Covenant 2017 this story follows the journey of Charles Stiles it begins when he (Charles) gets confused by why a mysterious girl is crying and what an Iraqi food cart is and he kidnaps a kid named T . This takes him down a sinister path where he meets interesting characters like the B.F.R.O and other 'squachers' but above all the story is about why charisma matters. Critic Consensus : Alien Covent is has interesting charachters and excellent cinematography due to the directors excessive use of multiple cameras and camera angles although the turkish airlines product placement can be distracting it is overall a great time and a lot better than other offerings like "Hells kitchen" or "paranormal hunter ghosts" Quotes : "dang it" "you either die a sceptic or live long enough to see yourself become a squacher" "shawn, shawn ,shit shawn" "they said it was just gone be an easy challenge" "good, good got it great"
I really appreciate you including the "bonus feature" scenes of the group. I've seen most of the YT reviews for this (RLM, Adum, etc) but nobody mentioned that. I had no idea those scenes existed until now. What a shame they didn't include them, they look more compelling than the rest of the movie.
Obviously you missed "A Dangerous Method", one of David Conenberg's latter-day films which are about as risky and left-of-center as they come. It's not the type of project Fassbender would seek out if his intention actually was to "play it safe". It would be interesting to know what you consider an example of good acting.
fassbender always does a really great job in indie films IMO but he acts like kind of a dork in the more blockbuster type movies he tries, i think he does take risks but not nearly enough :(
About 22 minutes in and agrees with points presented so far. Leaves for 2 minutes and comes back to Ralph talking to his Robot about emotions. Very confused now.
Rock&Rhythm speaking of scary at 18:00 i used to own a stool JUST LIKE THAT ONE but orange...yeah i know not really relevant but i cant really share this with anyone in any other way since its just gonna disapear in a sea of comments.
The main reason you want really healthy people to go into space is because space is gonna fuck them up and by being the tippity top of health they'll last longer than a random chainsmoking asshole would.
*well it aint no easy grab THEY GOT T* *don't let the bed bugs bite* *T U R K I S H A I R L I N E S* *CHARLES STILES MYSTERY DINERS* *this is the most frustrated i've been while squatching in a long time* *GOOD GOOD GOT IT GREAT GOOD* *cut* *KHAAAAAAN* *its the ghost. THE GHOST OF YANKY JIM*
Turk is hairlines?!? I don't remember that... (this is a joke btw, no one needs to correct me, but some probably will, and shall get a bunch of likes anyways)
I wish Ralph reviewed more good movies. I like seeing him talk about stuff he’s passionate about and enjoys. Even though reviewing a bad film can be more fun, I do enjoy his thoughts on something like Breathless or Ran, which I feel he should do more often than these kinds of reviews. Nevertheless I still love all his videos, he’s very talented. Good job Ralph.
Inb4 someone is offended by his gay jokes. Man, Ralph’s reviews keep getting better and better. Not only is the production really great, but his comedic style is getting more and more refined.
I love when Ralph interjects skits that are better than concepts in feature films i.e. gay robot twins. Better than Alien: Covenant, better than Transformers 2.
I honestly thought the twist was so blatantly obvious that for a couple of minutes I thought maybe they weren't going to do the obvious. I gave the 50 writers to much credit
Another weird thing that I've been noticing with recent sci fi movies, tv shows, and videogames is that they all seem to be taking on a kind of creationist theme. Like, something is created by something else. Why is that? Why can't something just have happened cuz life is weird and complex? To me it was way more terrifying that the Xenomorphs were just this crazy apex predator that fucks up everything. It was way freaky that it behaves like a parasite, a freak of nature. I liked thinking up of how that came to be, maybe it did start as a parasite that latched onto a host for food and protection, then learned to take on the hosts strengths and evolved to take those strengths and so on... to me that's fucking scary that life can produce that. But now that I know that it's all by design.... I dunno it just seems not even scary anymore, you did it all on purpose (kinda)? Ok now I'm bored again. I guess it takes away the scariness of nature and the whole "things we can't control" aspect. But sci fi now seems more like it wants to control all life rather than being more like "wow the universe is crazy and makes crazy creatures, awesome" Please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this...
+Biotic Jedi Agreed, like I get the whole philosophical aspect of the whole thing, the whole creation thing. But what made the aliens so great, is that they were nothing but part of natural evolution. Like, there's no purpose, no anything, just an animal that grew into an environment and became a lethal killing machine. And I think it's more scary because he hearkens back to our primitive ages, where we didn't know how these huge creatures that can eat them whole came to be, and was just part of nature the man had to deal with and survive. And I think that was the whole point of the 2 alien films, these are just natural creatures that sees you as food, and man must fight it off with the tools they have. That's I feel at least.
Large part of the magic was the mystery. We didn't know the origins of the xenomorphs and we didn't need to know. Maybe they were result of a nihilistic evolutionary process, maybe they were created for some purpose, maybe it's something third or fourth. How were they connected with the space jockeys? Who knows? I think Dan O'Bannon did this on purpose; we were meant to be left questioning these things, it was a Lovecraft sci-fi mystery.
That's a prime reason why people hate the prequel movies (particularly the first), since it tried to bring a dumb explanation to something that wasn't meant to be explained
The concept of an origin undermines what made the first movie and the xenomorph creature itself so interesting. Fear comes from what we don't know or understand. Prequels to horror franchises are so detrimental. Alien never needed an explaination. Ridley has shown that he has no understanding of what made the original so good. This film doesn't satisfy Alien fans as it gives the Xenomorph and Space Jockey such silly origins and back stories and it doesn't satisfy Prometheus fans as it pretty much tosses everything from that film out the window.
I only watched Alien recently and a couple of months ago I saw Prometheus(haven't seen Covenant yet), I hate/like Prometheus because as a stand alone movie its kinda of ok, but I fucking hate the mere idea of exploring the Space Jockey, it undermines the original Alien movie in a way that is really fucked up; I mean, in the original the Space Jockey is transporting a huge number of deadly creatures, the only logical explanation to transport such a large number of Xenomorphs is if they're being used as a biological weapon, and since the Space Jockey died by one of the Xenomorphs, it also implies that the Space Jockeys species don't know the Xenomorphs for much time, because if they did, the security would be better(the more you know a Species the more you can restrain it, not to mention if the Xenomorphs are from the same world as a Space Jockey, they would have millions of years to understand it, so the security would be better). This all implies that the Xenomorphs are aliens to the Space Jockeys, and that there's a, possible, intergalactic war happening between Space Jockeys and another alien species. That's how unknown and vast the universe of the original Alien is, it's so fucking vast that there's a Space War between two aliens, and one of them uses another alien species as a fucking biological weapon, and humans don't even know about it Prometheus changed all of this so Humans, Space Jockey and Xenomorphs are connected, so it undermines this aspect of the original movie
You know, I always assumed the Space Jockey just stumbled upon the Alien the same way the Nostromo did. A face hugger got on the pilot, a queen popped out and then laid all those eggs after the ship crashed. I never got the whole 'bio weapons' thing till I read online about it. I just took the space jockey as a sign of what would befall the Nostromo crew. Kinda like the Norwegian base sets up what will happen to Mcready and the gang in The Thing. But I do hate how the universe has been shrunken so much now everything has to be connected to everything else at it's origin.
rodster6 yeah, that's also valid, but I like the bio weapon theory more because it would make the universe more big, plus it would keep it vague about what kind of a shitty planet would create the Xenomorphs. At least if you mean that the Space Jockey just landed on that planet that is the natural habitat of the Xenomorphs
I don't think it's as bad as Ralph is saying it is. But it's not that great so don't think I'm giving it an A+. Plus Ralph is in the minority on this one so...
See, that was a movie that I really wanted to see, an actual sequel to Prometheus. I, like you, really enjoyed Promethues and the many questions it posed and the world it built, despite it's flaws.
You gave me a new appreciation for Prometheus. If i'm honest i wanted covenant to be able to show new and interesting things about the aliens by making a different kind of alien
What does it matter? They were part of the crew that was responsible for maintaining the ship and making sure it reached its destination safely. I'm sure some of the crew were planning to start their own families, but I doubt repopulating was mandatory for them. That's what the thousands of colonists were for. Also, any evidence of their homosexuality was shown for, like, a second (in the theatrical release anyway). Even if Alien: Covenant is trying to pat itself on the back, I doubt they're getting much applause for it.
If you're charged with setting up a colony, would you pick two flaming homosexual civic engineers, or two heterosexual fast food workers? A new settlement has more needs than reproduction.
