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In this episode of The Catholic Gentleman, Sam and John have an intriguing conversation about extraterrestrial intelligence (aliens) and what the Catholic Church has to say about them! We are joined by Dr. Paul Thigpen to discuss what saints and philosophers have argued about for centuries, as well as what it means to us as baptized Catholic men. When placing the possibility of alien existence against the Catholic faith, we enjoy learning and deepening our faith on truths such as human beings created in the Image of God, the fallen nature of man, and our relationship to God's universe. Join us.
Dr. Paul Thigpen's Book - Extraterrestrial Intelligence and the Catholic Faith - tanbooks.com/products/books/extraterrestrial-intelligence-and-the-catholic-faith-are-we-alone-in-the-universe-with-god-and-the-angels/
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@TheCatholicGentleman
@TheCatholicGentleman 11 месяцев назад
Updated link for the book - now on Sale 8/1/2023 - tanbooks.com/products/books/extraterrestrial-intelligence-and-the-catholic-faith-are-we-alone-in-the-universe-with-god-and-the-angels/
@PhillyHardy
@PhillyHardy 8 месяцев назад
As a Christian and self described reasonable man, I love that we’re willing to even try to tackle the subject, and while staying course w our relationship with Christ, are willing to deal with facts
@stevefugatt7075
@stevefugatt7075 2 месяца назад
I'm a bit late to the party but I have read this man's book and it was truly worth the effort. As both a Catholic and a UFO enthusiast, it gave me many new things to contemplate and research.
@silviaeliz12
@silviaeliz12 Год назад
As a catholic, I appreciate this podcast episode so much. I’ve been researching about this topic for a few years, and most of the literature is either around new age or the demonic theory. The description that Dr. Thigpen provides aligns very much with the conclusion I ended up having about the UAP phenomenon. I’m on my way to purchase the kindle version of his book. Thank you!
@compulsiverambler1352
@compulsiverambler1352 Год назад
Who's here after David Grusch's claim about the Vatican?
@takahashi5341
@takahashi5341 11 месяцев назад
I want to know the truth so bad
@jamesneuman6360
@jamesneuman6360 9 месяцев назад
👋
@psmith2714
@psmith2714 7 месяцев назад
David grusch works for the powers that shouldn't be. He's controlled opposition
@patrickabbott5442
@patrickabbott5442 Год назад
This was a really good episode. It's something seeing social media posts of Christians (mostly Catholics and Orthodox) who have opinions ranging from "missionize them!" to "they're demons!" to "maybe, they are a sort of Space Jew that somehow already knows of God." I have had some fun playing with these thoughts writing science fiction, so it's very interesting seeing what the saints and others thoughts. Thanks for the great episode!
@PhillyHardy
@PhillyHardy 8 месяцев назад
I think it’s sad not really getting in to the Jesuit scientists , and how they trumped Galileo, even had a fight over who used the telescope first, ok never mind, he just mentioned the jesuits! Shows how I should listen more and type less
@pmi74m
@pmi74m Год назад
I am an atheist and I consider it difficult that with the hypothetical discovery of other intelligent species, free and capable of ethical decisions, the Christian faith can sustain the story of "a creation of the universe that culminates in the human species", that "the incarnation of God has occurred in the human species to give us the fullness of its revelation", that "the original sin of the human being has brought chaos to all creation", including the civilizations of other species, that "the final judgment in which God separates good humans from bad, includes the destruction of the rest of the universe", etc. However, I admire Catholicism's openness towards this "aliens" thing and I just look forward to seeing how they explain that, once again, the holy spirit corrects the interpretation that the infallible church in matters of faith had held for two millennia.
@Ciscvs
@Ciscvs 6 месяцев назад
Let's wait and see because that's not how we think the Holy Spirit operates...
@56ava43
@56ava43 Месяц назад
I have experienced God the Father Creator. He is exactly as the theologians describe Him. He dissolved the veil for me and I experienced his omnipresence, all Loving, omniscience of God our Father Creator. In addition, I have experienced Jesus, the Alpha and the Omega. It is all as they tell us. Seek God and you will find Him.
@benoberbroeckling
@benoberbroeckling Год назад
The timing of this release is perfect… i just had a big discussion about this topic with some friends the other weekend. Wish i wouldve watched this before having that convo! Definitely will be sharing. Thanks!
@Paul-hl4ob
@Paul-hl4ob 10 месяцев назад
God is everything and everywhere ✝️🙏🦁😇♥️🌹🌹🌹
@guyfravaldecoatparquet6477
@guyfravaldecoatparquet6477 3 месяца назад
A very good video. Great talk! Thank you so much!
@JLSULev
@JLSULev Год назад
God has revealed to us what I need to know but you make valid points. I know there is something that people are witnessing with regards to UAP’s. I won’t dispute that. I just stay focused on what is important to me. Church teaching, Holy Scripture, the Sacraments, and prayer. We must always trust God and pray for true wisdom and that we are not deceived.
@TheCatholicGentleman
@TheCatholicGentleman Год назад
Amen, focus on what we know and avoid a disordered curiosity and excessive time spent towards those that don't help us grow in virtue and holiness. God bless, John.
@leonorhernandez7079
@leonorhernandez7079 11 месяцев назад
You hit it on the mail, deception, they , aliens/demons and the people even those so called Christian’s are going to deceive millions. I see them talking about evolution, hello! Do we not take away from God’s Glory when we accept such theories , which are called theories be wise they cannot be proven, and God made us . When they came up with that theory they did not know what we knows today that even the cells in our Bos died have pistons, nanotechnology if you will, in order to work, which leads any person to say that there was or is a designer , creator , these people believe all that and aliens , no thank you.
@imhere8380
@imhere8380 11 месяцев назад
They are real, as I have seen many around the world. They are here.
@sharonatl
@sharonatl 11 месяцев назад
It’s really happening, however they are not people from another planet, they are demons out to deceive many
@practicemakesperfect8675
@practicemakesperfect8675 9 месяцев назад
well in that case you wouldnt pray to mary or any other "saint" which is completely wrong. That goes for you so called "pope's". Aliens are not real, only demons tricking the fools.
@marcoecolo
@marcoecolo 11 месяцев назад
I’m a Catholic with a strong faith in God. According to what I understand, St-Thomas of Aquinas discussed the gap that exists between the lowest order of Angels and the highest intelligent human beings that would be explained by alien civilizations constrained into material really like us but far more advanced in terms of capabilities. Michio Kaku talks about the many levels of civilization 0, 1, 2, and 3. What do you think of that? According to my understanding, there would be several orders of consciousness: - Inert material at the quantum level - Vegetation level - Animal level - Human-level (Level 0 civilization) - Level 1 civilization (capable of dealing with planet mass and energy balance) - Level 2 civilization (capable of dealing with solar system mass and energy balance) - Level 3 civilization (capable of dealing with galaxy mass and energy balance) - Level 4 civilization (capable of dealing with dark matter dark energy balance) - Something in between? - Third Sphere of Angles - Angels - Archangels - Principalities or Rulers - Second Sphere - Powers or Authorities - Virtues or Strongholds - Dominions or Lordships - First Sphere - Thrones - Cherubim - Seraphim - Trinity - Holy Spirit, the Person birthed from The Father and The Son - The Son, The Word of God, Eternally Begotten from The Father - The Eternal Father who Is ever Was and will ever Be
@duckymomorocks
@duckymomorocks Год назад
In the words of Father Spitzer, "...catechize them and tell them about Jesus and baptize them."
@TheCatholicGentleman
@TheCatholicGentleman Год назад
Amen! Thanks for joining us.
@Ggdivhjkjl
@Ggdivhjkjl Год назад
If they aren't fallen descendants of Adam then there is no reason to do that just as there is no reason to baptise a cat, who probably wouldn't appreciate the attempt anyway.
@duckymomorocks
@duckymomorocks Год назад
@@Ggdivhjkjl 1Beloved, do not trust every spirit but test the spirits to see whether they belong to God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
@traviswadezinn
@traviswadezinn 11 месяцев назад
Excellent interview - the link to the book doesn't work, maybe it needs updated?
@TheCatholicGentleman
@TheCatholicGentleman 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the heads up. I just updated the link, it is on sale right now - tanbooks.com/products/books/extraterrestrial-intelligence-and-the-catholic-faith-are-we-alone-in-the-universe-with-god-and-the-angels/
@PaulTurner-lj3xb
@PaulTurner-lj3xb 6 месяцев назад
Hi guys are we here or over there??that is the question!🤔📕
@ApostolicEchoes
@ApostolicEchoes Год назад
When you understand Genesis 6 you understand aliens. The WHOLE of creation groans waiting for the redemption (Romans 8:22). ALL of creation is fallen. I’ll stick with biblical truth on this matter over what certain men have believed.
@chris-solmon4017
@chris-solmon4017 Год назад
That’s incorrect. The “fall” only occurred on planet Earth. Mauro Biglino translated the Masoretic text for the Vatican. The concept of original sin only applies to a particular sect of beings, known as the Adamic race.
@tinopacino9400
@tinopacino9400 Год назад
@@chris-solmon4017 yes I believe that’s on point!!
@tinopacino9400
@tinopacino9400 10 месяцев назад
1933 was the Vatican first report of Aliens from a crashed ufo in Italy..
@briannall6232
@briannall6232 7 месяцев назад
I believe Aliens are DEMONS.... Precursor to the Anti-Christ. But I'm no one.
@psmith2714
@psmith2714 7 месяцев назад
According to the sumerian texts the flood was a natural disaster as opposed to the creation from a homicidal maniac to kill humans
@purdy9170
@purdy9170 11 месяцев назад
If you swap the word Angel for Alien the Bible makes a lot more sense .
@dorugoramon0518
@dorugoramon0518 6 месяцев назад
Or vice versa.
@chuckwaardenburg496
@chuckwaardenburg496 6 месяцев назад
Why would religious angles need technology to travel?
@moonbeam127tmiller5
@moonbeam127tmiller5 11 месяцев назад
Jesus Christ would have told us! We know How the Creation went!! And that God's plan is for Us To Make it back home! He explains His Creation! And We are the Apple of His Eye's! When did the Church talk about Aliens?
@ingoditrust7784
@ingoditrust7784 7 месяцев назад
It's even clearer when you consider all things were created with Jesus: there's no place for "aliens".
@TheJob508
@TheJob508 5 месяцев назад
Didn't He say that His kingdom is not from here?
@ingoditrust7784
@ingoditrust7784 5 месяцев назад
@@TheJob508 so, you understand Jesus is an alien 👽? Then how do you understand John 1:1-3? Since Jesus (Second Person, the Word, Son of God) was involved in creating Earth, Adam, etc. what do you expect "aliens" to look like?!
@SammyVal1950
@SammyVal1950 Год назад
Are We Alone In The Universe? As for me, as a member of the human race (intelligent beings), we are alone in the universe. But as for the other animals (insects, fouls and fish) and plants, they could exist though they might be in other shapes just in the movie “Avatar”, except of course for the Navis. In that distant planet (in that movie), the flora and fauna were just incredible and awe provoking. If those were real, you will just be awed by the majestic and diversified creation of God. How did I arrive to this conclusion? God created the universe and set aside creatures: like us human beings in His likeness. No other beings can appreciate the marvelous creation of His, except man. Animals and insects only catch prey and eat and multiply. If God created other human beings in other planets, then they had to be tested like Adam and Eve. If they also failed, does Jesus have to die again for them too? I don’t think so. For those who do not believe that there is a religious purpose for creation, then they can wait and wait till they have answered their question: “Are we alone in the universe?” For those who believed that we were visited by aliens in the distant past, should those aliens have helped our ancestors better their lives by sharing their advanced technology to our ancestors? Or are we not going to help other human beings in other planets if we were able to visit them and saw their primitive way of life? To God be the Glory!
@nickywilliams8540
@nickywilliams8540 Год назад
We are not alone, ₩AKE UÞ
@chillguy2758
@chillguy2758 11 месяцев назад
You are confused my friend
@MartinMoorcroft
@MartinMoorcroft 6 месяцев назад
Fermi paradox! Is valid, But what would your response be, if I were to tell you that my creator has shown me things that I can clearly see,were meant for only me,as a gift and a reassurance that I am loved and always seen! And the reason why every time I’m shown something that is undeniably from my creator,due to the nature of its impossibility when it comes to the excepted “laws of physics” that we are led to believe are bound by limitations that cannot be changed , no matter what! So when you observe a phenomenon that is clearly breaking the unbreakable laws of the physical universe, as mankind has been unable to break, therefore scientific observations of our attempts to change any of the now established law’s of the universe are set in stone! And so the reason why ,I and everyone else that has been witness to what is best understood as a miracle, and the only person to witness it, Then this is where I see the humour of the creator, this is due to his way to force us into a situation that we would call “a test of our faith” as you have now been shown something that is impossible to prove to others, and impossible to undo! By which I mean that to pretend it was just an illusion or a misunderstanding of what you saw/felt at the time, and so you are now creating a false reality for yourself, which is driven by a selfish fear of being the target of ridicule and loss of respect! But I personally have a much greater fear that too knowingly attempt to deny what was a gift from, my Creator and then believe or not even consider that this may anger him/her? Is the act of a fool! And this is why I see the humour, because it’s a perfect way to test a person’s faith! As unless you were told to share his gift with the world, then you have to understand that he has no expectations of you to do anything more than to believe in him and have faith that he will guide you through this difficult journey, and to learn lessons to elevate your Spirit, which are lessons that necessitate a physical form as it comes with a vast range of things that are not present in a spiritual form! And so I reach the point of why I am responding to your message, what would your response be, if I were to tell you “I have been shown miraculous things from my creator, but 1 in particular was far beyond the realm of every single other experience put together! And it came in the form of a telepathic message that said “look right and you’ll see something!” Which I did and there on a bright and sunny day, there in the sky was a metallic egg shaped object,positioned with the wider part below just as we would place an egg in an eggcup, and on that bottom part was a bright white light, randomly flashing brightly in the cloudless sky! And just as I began to marvel at what I saw, I was instantaneously aware that I no longer had a need to question a single thing about all that existed in the entire universe whilst knowing that I was the universe and the universe was me! I also felt that I could simply reach out a finger and touch anything present in the universe regardless of its distance as I was everywhere simultaneously but also knew that I was still standing in my physical form on the same spot except for a reason that I will never know until I leave my body, I was standing with my back towards the object silently resting in the sky above me, and instead facing towards the sun! And so you might be curious about any particular emotions or feelings/sensations I may have experienced in this state if any at all? Well the answer is, I felt pure love all around me, pure bliss like every single positive emotion/physical feeling were all operating at maximum intensity, and the peace of mind that I felt through infinite knowledge and understanding was sublime! And then as instantaneously as I entered this state I was back in the reality that I had been in my entire life up until then. I was now beyond excited and at the same time a faint feeling of disappointment was present and I knew it’s cause, I didn’t want to be back in this reality! Because it was clear from the moment I returned that I had just been shown that of what it was to return home to my creator, and know how it will be to leave my physical body and exist in my spiritual form! Next I spun around too see that the craft was in the exact same place that I first saw it,now I can never know, but I had a sense that the craft was, although not something that might have crossed the mind back at the time this took place, I felt it was perhaps a drone of some kind and hence wasn’t occupied by the intelligence that was communicating with me! And instead it seemed that they “yes I was certainly aware of more than one!” Where present but within another craft, this was perhaps because of the location of my contact, which was not more than 1.5 miles from a RAF base! Though it is unlikely that the airforce would be able to act on information from Radar Systems or any other means, this is because it was at that time, a helicopter base comprised of two craft, Chinook’s and Puma’s, and so its hard to imagine a flying bus reaching a state of combat readiness in anything remotely close to quickly! The next thing I did “which I now regret” was to feel an overwhelming urgency find someone else who could verify my sighting by seeing the still present craft in the sky close by, and so I turned and began running towards the home of a friend who was 4/5 minutes away, but I was stunned to see another friend of mine who shared an interest in UFO’s driving towards me and not more than 100 feet from the point I had seen the object, and so I jumped into the road directly in front of his red VW Golf, causing him to refresh his emergency stopping response time,at which point I jumped into the passenger seat and frantically began raving about a UFO just a little way up the hill, so it was no more than 5 minutes or less before we reached the spot! And I bet you’ll never guess what we both saw the moment we exited the car? “NOTHING!” now I’m going to have to leave it there simply because there is so much more to this story than I can possibly continue writing here! So the essence of this sharing of this 100% true event, was too get an understanding of what your response would be now that you have heard part of a much more detailed and profound experience of my most beautiful,life changing experience? I don’t want you to feel pressured to reply, but be mindful of the fact that this was an experience that I believe could only come from my creator or his envoys! And so in terms of belief in a creator then this is something that if experienced by the entire world,would have unimaginable implications! Hope to hear from you soon,God Bless you.
@SammyVal1950
@SammyVal1950 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for your very long insights. Sorry, but I still stand on what I have said before. May God the Holy Spirit bless you, my Brother.
@charlescamand9596
@charlescamand9596 5 месяцев назад
Yes,I quite agree with you.Ufo s are Real but they are demonic.I also doubt there could be other men on other planets or galaxies.Christ came to redeem us but only on Planet Earth once and for all.Meaning he won't die again on other planets.So if there were other Humans in the Cosmos they wouldn't be freed from original sin and would be pagans.And of course it is impossible for us to evangelize them now or in a distant future.There are laws on Time and Space and distance which make it impossible.Ufos and ETS do exist but they are demons.Satan,with Ufos is making people believe there are beings superior to Man and that's part of his deception.
@littlefishlouis
@littlefishlouis Год назад
the intro states that other beings exist but did not sin like us. To that we do not know the condition/outcome with regard to their economy of salvation or God's engagement with such other extraterrestrial beings.
@chuckwaardenburg496
@chuckwaardenburg496 6 месяцев назад
Yea right. Just imagine a E. T. Adam and Eve eating forbidden space fruit.. What about God's impregnation of a 13 year old E.T. virgin to make a space Jesus to act as a loophole to sacrifice himself to himself for their space sins.🖖
@user-ud9ep6ym7r
@user-ud9ep6ym7r 2 месяца назад
If we’re to listen to the aliens, they say we’re containers! As in souls maybe?
@moonbeam127tmiller5
@moonbeam127tmiller5 11 месяцев назад
I know someone who was a real Montauk boy!!! What a true horror!
@roselotusmystic
@roselotusmystic 11 месяцев назад
Having just purchased Dr. Thigpen's book, to his 'Apologist' credit, he DOES mention Giodorno Bruno, the despised 'heretic' 🤣😢 Starting with the section "The Curious (and Unfortunate) Case of Giordano Bruno Thigpen, Paul. Extraterrestrial Intelligence and the Catholic Faith: Are We Alone in the Universe with God and the Angels? (p. 57). TAN Books. Kindle Edition." Happy 'Heretic' Burnings 😢
@hectorbueso5221
@hectorbueso5221 Год назад
Please provide references from these saints and doctors of the Church speaking about these matters. Shouldn't a scholar present evidence?
@TheCatholicGentleman
@TheCatholicGentleman Год назад
He does. If you grab his book everything is thoroughly documented. The bibliography section is 20 pages with 100s of citations. The style of this podcast is conversational and does not go into that depth of details. If this is a concern for you, I would encourage you to grab the book and review those sources. Thanks for the comment. Blessings, - John
@hectorbueso5221
@hectorbueso5221 Год назад
@@TheCatholicGentleman thanks ! :)
@dominicbriganti5710
@dominicbriganti5710 8 месяцев назад
​@@TheCatholicGentlemanIt's also possible that God is the ruler of a planet called Heaven and that he, as an alien, artificially inseminated Mary to create Jesus, who was also an alien himself, who shared a consciousness with God ... and that our souls are downloads of our minds that can be transferred into synthetic bodies on the planet called Heaven ... that only allows the "good" ones in -- do you see how it all starts to make sense? That is the unifying theory.
@petertaranto8192
@petertaranto8192 Год назад
I think its the height of human arrogance to assume that we are God's only creation,especially given the size of the universe!!!
@RedWolf5
@RedWolf5 11 месяцев назад
I see it as a complete act of humility and submission.
@sharonatl
@sharonatl 11 месяцев назад
Do not Be deceived folks, it’s demonic activity… end times deception , why do you think no clear photo can be taken always hazy and then disappear 🤷‍♀️ it’s demonic
@chrishowell5491
@chrishowell5491 11 месяцев назад
Sights and wonders in the skies towards the end of times, don't be deceived these are distractions. If these creatures are so advanced and are so intelligent and yet don't communicate with us. I'm just not buying it.
@gregwademan359
@gregwademan359 Год назад
One thing that has always bothered me is why an alien species would spend, tens, hundreds, or thousands of years (assuming that the laws of relativity hold true) in travel, just to buzz our atmosphere and promptly leave? I've always been a fan of the Fermi Paradox.
@TheCatholicGentleman
@TheCatholicGentleman Год назад
Hey Greg, thanks for the comment. I actually learned about the Fermi Paradox for the first time because of this episode. I have not spent much time thinking about it or learning more, but on face value it appears logical. I pray that you are doing well and appreciate the comment. Please keep us in your prayers.
@gregwademan359
@gregwademan359 Год назад
@@TheCatholicGentleman Thanks brother. Certain theories have put forward to answer the paradox and the one that interests me the most is that intelligent species reach the point that they cause their own demise (i.e. nuclear war) before they gain the ability to travel the cosmos.
@gregwademan359
@gregwademan359 Год назад
@@floridaman318 It would definitely send us back to the stone age. Nuclear winter would kill a large part of the population.
@troybyrne2916
@troybyrne2916 Год назад
Question Neanderthals and other races why would God not include them as the race of man, in a similar way a African and European are still the same family
@ikeabuchi1
@ikeabuchi1 11 месяцев назад
European have remnants of Neanderthal genes. Africans have none.
@Klaus-UlrichWilbertz
@Klaus-UlrichWilbertz 11 месяцев назад
they are included as innocent pre-runners of Adam and Eve, who would have placed us to a higher evolution level without sin
@Klaus-UlrichWilbertz
@Klaus-UlrichWilbertz 11 месяцев назад
there were humans outside of paradise already look the wife of Cain for example
@Klaus-UlrichWilbertz
@Klaus-UlrichWilbertz 11 месяцев назад
the aim and yearning of all creation is the revelation or coming of the sons and daughters of God everywhere, because the resurrection of our bodies includes also the transfiguration of the whole universe and cosm and world of matter, which means that alien images of God people will be included in that final miracle as the marriage of this side of creation with the great beyond. The "normal" revealed way of salvation is by Jesus...but there are also many other ways, God can redeem people (good pagans who never heard of Jesus for instance)
@dorugoramon0518
@dorugoramon0518 6 месяцев назад
Jesus is the *only* way to salvation.Good Pagans can be saved only if they are miraculously converted (IE somehow receive knowledge of Christ and what His Church requires).
@scottpauline-mi3wj
@scottpauline-mi3wj 11 месяцев назад
If there are other worlds we have to ask ourselves did they fall or not and if they did fall, would their history be radically different from ours? I would argue that because the nature of the Fall would be the exact same as ours and if they received an incarnation, the general basic ages would be the same as ours. I argue this about an abstract world in my writings of a book. Nevertheless I don't think that such a world would interact with ours because then the question would be did they receive an incarnation or are they waiting for us to bring them ours? That's just stupid. There is nothing in divine revelation that says that we would bring an incarnation to another world because if they didn't receive any incarnation but were falling they wouldn't last long because in Noah's day they would destroy themselves. That's why God sent the flood. Because the result of spiritual death is physical death! If God didn't send the flood, humanity would have killed themselves off! Hence if a fallen world is not disciplined by God in the same manner it will implode and destroy itself and die off. But what if another world was did fall and then was to receive an incarnation what could its history be radically different from ours here I argue that each history would be exactly like Catholic church history of our world. I do this in my book but I will summarize here. theologyoftheages.org/content/apocalypse/greater-ages/ages/nebudchanezzar-eternal-dream.php theologyoftheages.org/content/apocalypse/greater-ages/ages/abstract-ages-intro.php
@scottpauline-mi3wj
@scottpauline-mi3wj 11 месяцев назад
If there are other worlds we have to ask ourselves did they fall or not and if they did fall, would their history be radically different from ours I would argue that because the nature of the Fall would be the exact same as ours and if they received an incarnation, the general basic ages would be the same as ours I argue this about an abstract world in my writings of a book Nevertheless I don't think that such a world would interact with ours because then the question would be did they receive an incarnation or are they waiting for us to bring them ours that's just stupid There is nothing in divine revelation that says that we would bring an incarnation to another world because if they didn't receive any incarnation but were falling they wouldn't last long because in Noah's day they would destroy themselves that's why God sent the flood Because the result of spiritual death is physical death If God didn't send the flood, humanity would have killed themselves off Hence if a fallen world is not disciplined by God and the same manner it will implode and destroy itself and die off
@johnmillard3811
@johnmillard3811 3 месяца назад
Lightweight conversation, with all due respect for Paul- does anyone have anything to say about the history of this topic? What Augustine said? What Aquinas said? Hello?
@tinopacino9400
@tinopacino9400 10 месяцев назад
We Are Definitely Not the only ones that fell! Obviously! But we May be the Only ones Offered Salvation..
@ingoditrust7784
@ingoditrust7784 7 месяцев назад
THERE CANNOT EXIST OTHER BEINGS CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF JESUS. ADAM AND EVE AND US. THAT'S IT
@johnbyrnes7912
@johnbyrnes7912 6 месяцев назад
As I think Nils Bohr said to Einstein "stop telling God what to do!" . 🤡
@kpn5000
@kpn5000 6 месяцев назад
or you can stop calling God and His Church liars @@johnbyrnes7912
@ingoditrust7784
@ingoditrust7784 5 месяцев назад
@@johnbyrnes7912 no, the opposite: stop preaching crazy notions in the name of God. John 1:3, where do you see aliens? I don't, I see the Son of Man incarnated as the Son of the Virgin Mary (Herself the Immaculate Conception), the New Adam (Blessed Virgin Mary: the New Eve). The only person I know to seriously believe in aliens 👽 is old Dickie Dawkie, the guy who believes moronic Darwin to be a genius (read his biography on Wikipedia)... But then he doesn't believe in Creation
@roselotusmystic
@roselotusmystic 11 месяцев назад
"talk of other Worlds" 👍 Unless you are Giodorno Bruno 1600😱 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
@briannall6232
@briannall6232 7 месяцев назад
How would he do that, He has only lived on plant earth...