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Welcome back to Boost School! Today we're talking about something that is as important as boost itself, and that something is control and we will cover all the boost control setups, starting with the most basic level 1 setup and proceeding to the most complex and performance oriented level.
LEVEL 1 BOOST CONTROL - wastegate + wastegate actuator
The most basic setup consists of nothing but your wastegate and your wastegate actuator. This simple setup works by having a boost reference line connected to a boost source. Boost pressure is exerted onto the spring and diaphragm inside the wastegate actuator. Once boost pressure gets high enough it compresses the spring and opens the wastegate. Having quick turbo spool up with this setup is next to impossible as the spring inside the actuator is exposed to boost pressure all the time. Your wastegate will be fully opened when you hit the boost the spring is rated for, but your wastegate will actually start to open way sooner than target boost.
LEVEL 2 BOOST CONTROL - manual boost controller
A manual boost controller will alloy you to make boost than your spring would allow by delaying the boost going through the reference line. Inside a manual boost controller is a spring and a ball. Adjusting a knob or turning the controller itself will change the spring pressure on the ball. Lifting the ball up from it's seat will require more boost pressure than compressing the wastegate spring so your turbocharger generates more boost. Although the manual boost controller is very simple to install and increases boost pressure it doesn't do anything else. It's dumb just like the level 1 setup and references nothing other than boost. It has no idea about your throttle opening, intake air temperature etc. which can result in full boost at half throttle or a setting that needs readjustment for different weather or or altitude.
LEVEL 3 BOOST CONTROL - 2 port boost control solenoid
The simplest electronic setup involves a 2 port boost control solenoid. The 2 port solenoid is connected into the boost reference line with a T fitting and it bleeds boost pressure from the line between the turbo and wastegate actuator. Essentially the 2 port boost solenoid is lying to the spring in the wastegate actuator by making it "think" there's less boost being made than actually is. The great advantage between a 2 port boost solenoid and any manual boost controller is that the solenoid is connected to the ECU and the ECU can manipulate the solenoid's duty cycle based on throttle opening, air temperature, coolant temperature, etc. so you'll never get full boost at half throttle again. The downside is that with the 2 port solenoid and the t-fitting the spring still sees boost pressure all the time so the 2 port solenoid still can't prevent it from being slightly opened before it needs to be.
LEVEL 4 BOOST CONTROL - 3 port boost control solenoid
Unlike the 2 port solenoid which is installed with a t-fitting, the 3 port boost control solenoid is installed directly into the boost reference line and it interrupts the boost pressure going from the turbo to the wategate actuator. Because it has one more port the 3 port boost solenoid can control boost more accurately and with less duty cycle compared to a 2 port solenoid resulting in better turbo responsiveness, quicker spool up and more power, as well as more headroom to increase boost later on.
LEVEL 5 BOOST CONTROL - 3 port boost control solenoid + external wastegate
When hooked up to an external wastegate a three port solenoid can be used to direct boost pressure to the top port of a two port wastegate helping reinforce the spring and keeping it closed. This is a superior setup to "lying to the spring" and it results in even better turbo responsiveness and more aggressive spool up.
LEVEL 6 BOOST CONTROL - 4 port boost control solenoid / 2 X 3 port solenoids
The 4 port boost control solenoid can do something a 3 port cant'. It can control the top and bottom of a 2 port external wastegate at the same time. A 3 port solenoid can make twice the boost pressure of your base spring, but a 4 port solenoid can make 5-6 times that which means it's capable of generating some extreme boost. The only real downside is poor resolution. Changing a 4 port solenoid duty cycle by just 1-2% can result in 3-8 psi of boost pressure change. To correct a bumpy boost curve generated by a 4 port solenoid you can use two 3 port solenoids, but this will require a very capable ECU and some pretty complex tuning.
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@d4a
@d4a 4 года назад
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@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 3 года назад
You missed a style of turbo controller. For mechanical control of variable turbo (vnt) (This is my vw truck): m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iD4bOiggdW4.html m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MtIugEqjkHk.html Gfb (go fast bits) sells a controller. But there are many styles. As someone who pushed an old t3 turbo to the limit... Variable turbo is where it’s at brother. It’s a whole different ballgame. Controlling a wastegate. Just imagine if all that energy wasn’t wasted. Bro you make the best vids I love you. I strive to be more like you. You have taught me not only so much, but also how to see cars in a new light after many years of dark times as a professional mechanic.
@NickShl
@NickShl 3 года назад
Why two port solenoid can't be installed inline instead using T connector? Why we need three port solenoid and vent boost to atmosphere? And why we need mess with ait at all? We can use solenoid directly to open wastegate exactly when we need it.
@eliasaggeli1225
@eliasaggeli1225 Год назад
Bro whats the difference between a supercharger and a turbo if we assume that both provide the same boost level?also why in a NA engine you feel more and more power as the revs rise while in a turbo engine you dont have a linear power delivery?
@kart5486
@kart5486 Год назад
@@eliasaggeli1225 A supercharger gets its power via a belt attached to the crank. This causes a small power loss, but the power gain from the supercharger always overcompensates for this loss. However, due to the initial power loss, there is lower fuel efficiency. A supercharger, since it is directly connected to the crank, the power that you ask for (depending on amount of throttle, as well as the type of supercharger (which make peak boost at either low revs, like your screw types, or make high power at high end of rev range, like a centrifugal supercharger)) power is immediately delivered. Turbos on the other hand, get their power through the exhaust gases, just after leaving the exhaust manifold. However, the air pressure + flow is a bit random and can cause inconsistencies when you ask for power that the turbo may or may not be currently making since it takes time for the turbo to spool up. Additionally, turbos can only operate over a small bandwidth of the rev range since the turbo exhaust housing can always have an ideal amount of air since it has a fixed shape. (Unless you are some rich kid and/or tech nerd who can buy/make a variable turbo which operates over an extremely large amount of the rev range). And due to this bandwidth issue, the power is increased in one part of the rev range, but not the whole rev range. But, since turbos are generally cheaper and operate off of exhaust gases, they are usually the primary choice of car consumers/enthusiasts. Finally, NA engines operate dependent on the air supply present, which is always consistent (unless you plummet your car 40km vertically down a mountain, where air density makes a difference). So, since the air is consistent (and the car is designed to have close to linear power delivery, which it should be), the amount of throttle that you apply will translate to some amount of power increase as intended by the engineers. Also, if you are still confused, just search it up on YT.
@kart5486
@kart5486 Год назад
What makes more power and/or torque: a low cr engine with turbos fitted to the engine to make as much power as possible without running into knock, or a highly optimised high cr engine which is na?
@brockam
@brockam 4 года назад
If likes and comments help you out on the algorhythm, consider this me doing my part to help. Thank you for making the content.
@muslimtommyshelby2624
@muslimtommyshelby2624 4 года назад
Me too
@shawnnoushian9803
@shawnnoushian9803 4 года назад
@@muslimtommyshelby2624 1rr4
@shawnnoushian9803
@shawnnoushian9803 4 года назад
@@muslimtommyshelby2624 ok
@richeyrich2203
@richeyrich2203 Год назад
Ditto😊
@ChutneyInc.
@ChutneyInc. 4 года назад
I needed this breakdown. Its so hard to get real and clear info on boost control and i believe you earned a trophy on this! 🎖🏅🥇🥈🥉🏆
@LSturboguy
@LSturboguy 7 месяцев назад
no its not just go buy a turbosmart eboost2
@TheCarPassionChannel
@TheCarPassionChannel 3 года назад
Golden video man. An excellent explanation on why my 4-port solnoid had some of the most erratic behavior and it was so frustrating
@guidosaur7506
@guidosaur7506 3 года назад
Hi Greg 👋 fancy to see you here
@TheCarPassionChannel
@TheCarPassionChannel 3 года назад
@@guidosaur7506 making sure my ebc strategy is dialed in for next weekend 😈
@guidosaur7506
@guidosaur7506 3 года назад
@@TheCarPassionChannel I'm just going to fix my Maxpeedingrods turbo and enjoy spinning the tires with a mbc lol. Still good to learn though
@300whiteout9
@300whiteout9 3 года назад
Greg helped me swap my Miata back in the day 2016 I think
@Justinmikehunt
@Justinmikehunt 3 года назад
That little shimmy, look to the left, and then wink @ 2:57 lmao that was slick bro. You have literally taught me everything I know. I just realized I fully get how a turbo works now. Exhaust gases! Duh. I knew that but I realized I didn’t completely KNOW what that meant and how it needs to be regulated and just all of it is more clear now lol. Thanks for what you do!
@byroncronje4035
@byroncronje4035 4 года назад
The animation is on point 👌🏻
@ElioRose
@ElioRose 2 года назад
This is one of those channels that any and everyone who's into modifying cars should be subbed to. I feel like everything explained is so easy to understand and follow it makes me make better choices in my own setup.
@built4speed305
@built4speed305 11 месяцев назад
Cool stuff, im on it🤘😀👏
@theperson6167
@theperson6167 Год назад
Here is a comment to boost you on the algorithm
@alexsm3882
@alexsm3882 5 месяцев назад
Which solenoid did you use?
@sdkreviewdz
@sdkreviewdz 5 месяцев назад
Student 😂
@Dyl_Cam
@Dyl_Cam 4 месяца назад
​@@alexsm3882I think he's using straight wastegate spring
@zainm.cheema7359
@zainm.cheema7359 2 года назад
Its only been 2 years for me with a Turbocharged car and its my FIRST EVER and you Sir have helped me so much in understanding and appreciating the machine that I have. Even in its Stock form, i like how its set up and now based on you explaining some basic concepts I can make well informed decisions to do subtle changes to my set up :) THANK YOU SO MUCH!
@SWTH71
@SWTH71 4 года назад
I’m so glad I found this channel
@crxtodd16
@crxtodd16 4 года назад
Hah, was thinking the exact same thing just now!
@GaurdianAzzar
@GaurdianAzzar 4 года назад
This is a great and very comprehensive video. In these 22 minutes are the contents of what took me weeks of independent research. Very accurate, well organized, and well articulated. Thanks for the great video and keep them coming!
@linchester8464
@linchester8464 4 года назад
Next topic we should discuss about antilag. *bang bang bang bang!!!*
@mayuravirus6134
@mayuravirus6134 4 года назад
That is 2 step redline limiter
@dickjames5007
@dickjames5007 3 года назад
@Darren Munsell anti lag has nothing to do with a supercharger. Unless you mean buy supercharger so you don’t have lag like a turbo. Anti lag retards timing where it pretty much backfires in exhaust manifold to spool up the turbo faster.
@kraftrad7840
@kraftrad7840 3 года назад
Best explanation i've ever seen. My tuner put a 3 port solenoid, i never understood the advantage. Now i do, thanks for the video!!!
@corvettefever360
@corvettefever360 4 года назад
At 13:31, the 3 port solenoid with 2 port wastegate (WG), where boost reference is to the back of WG & solenoid to the front, is also best for safety measures, in that if your solenoid fails the WG will force open. Now on more extreme racing situations, many reverse these, in getting the most boost to hold the gate closed.
@IgoByaGo
@IgoByaGo 4 года назад
Thank you. I’m installing a turbo on my car right now and this is helping a lot.
@martokisful
@martokisful 4 года назад
Another way of boost control is using a external wastegate, with the boost signal going to the bottom side of the spring and a 3 port boost controller solenoid with a canister of CO2 in the inlet providing pressure and the outlet to the top side of the WG. It provides a linear boost curve with easy tunning on inexpensive ECU management at the expense of filling the CO2 canister from time to time. For high boost racing aplications it works like a charm, You can carry two bottles, switch them and keep racing
@bmxriderforlife1234
@bmxriderforlife1234 Год назад
I wonder if I could use a bleed valve and a pressure holding canister on my super plus turbo twincharger system. Seen people do similar to help turbo lag in conjunction with the super reducing it as well, but In theory when the super needs to blow off pressure I wonder if I could use it and some other excess gas pressure to essentially make a self recharging version of the c02 set up.
@miiiiiike
@miiiiiike 3 года назад
love the way you explain everything, it was so easy for me to understand... also the way you designed the visual aide is perfect! killer video!!
@LordMekanicus
@LordMekanicus 3 года назад
Nicely put! Clear and concise. Neat thing is, the old fully mechanical systems on aircraft back in the 40's have the same degree of controll as the modern computer boxes. They are, however, very complex and bulky for such simple actuation.
@beethoven8256
@beethoven8256 Год назад
Bro I’m an inspiring mechanic. And you’ve helped me a ton with this video. Hats off to you my man 🎩
@pgdbrk06
@pgdbrk06 4 года назад
It's amazing how hard it was to find a good concise explanation of boost control methods. Well done!
@RobertD_83
@RobertD_83 4 года назад
I watched a few videos from this channel a couple months back, the channel is growing quickly and for good reason! Great job putting things in terms that most people can understand.
@ShadowVR30
@ShadowVR30 4 года назад
Very informative. Thank you. My modern turbo setup is slightly different than all those. It has big electric motors to control the wastegate and no vacuum lines off the turbo.
@MI-sw3iv
@MI-sw3iv Год назад
You guys probably see it too much to soak in the individual comments, but this channel and whoever is behind putting together these videos are fkn awesome. You know what the people want!!! No other channel or publisher has put out the content you do in the coherent and comprehensive way you do! Fkn can't say it enough- everything you do we fkn love, don't stop making vids !!
@sophiamarchildon3998
@sophiamarchildon3998 3 года назад
Why not just have an electro-mechanical (solenoid or similar) actuator to control the wastegate directly? You could even add a sensor to the wastage outflow to have a negative feedback loop (servo) on your solenoid input and actual effects. Efficient, highly versatile, extremely precise. Just plug the numbers in the ECU and you are go.
@static7985
@static7985 10 месяцев назад
this is a question I had. it seems like an obvious solution, but there must be a reason it's not used. I wonder why?
@fern5811
@fern5811 18 дней назад
@@static7985Interesting, maybe they fail alot and manufacturers dont wanna risk it failing and having to replace turbo under warranty
@Tarex_
@Tarex_ 4 года назад
Gotta say, love your videos, having seen donut media go from ok to rediculous, MCM going quite far away from the concept, this and driver61 are absolute favourites right now, awesome explanation and super clear
@BoNosKG09
@BoNosKG09 4 года назад
You need to add the new generation of Turbosmart wastegate that don't have a spring and are completely controlled electronically via ECU. It debuted last year at SEMA
@nickh3809
@nickh3809 4 года назад
Yep i have 1 on my 2018 F150 2.7L 😁 I had the previous version that was spring actuated but it was annoying taking all the vacuum lines off n on once i randomly had to go to the dealership for a failed Oil PSI sensor. So the new one, although not as loud as the spring actuated model, it is literally one si gle connection into the factory harness. (Old model also makes you T Tap and cut into ur factory harness to bypass the sensor). Not anymore 🙂 (Also its a Blow-Off Valve, not a Wastegate if that is or isnt what you meant)
@BoNosKG09
@BoNosKG09 4 года назад
@@nickh3809 I was referring to the wastegate specifically. But the BOV is nice as well. I have one installed on my Subaru WRX 😁
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 4 года назад
The channel is sponsored by AEM. If Turbosmart sponsors him then maybe he'd feature them too.
@BoNosKG09
@BoNosKG09 4 года назад
@@sepg5084 agreed, it is sponsored by AEM. I thought that if he was trying to make a complete list of boost control, he would include it, even if he left out the brand name and only described the functionality
@nickh3809
@nickh3809 4 года назад
@@BoNosKG09 Haha ok was just making sure, but very nice im sure you enjoy every second of letting off the throttle especially underneath bridges and over-passes as much as i do😂
@charlesgoldman5523
@charlesgoldman5523 3 года назад
Wow, you got it ALL down and you are great at getting it out and across to some of us less educated. Very clear and concise. Thanks for your efforts. Great video !
@rizzoid
@rizzoid 4 года назад
Unless I missed it, another nice topic to follow-up this video would be the advantages of dual port wastegates. Also, great timing. I decided on running twin solenoids in my truck earlier today and it was nice to see you agree that my choice was not a bad one. :)
@clonoid
@clonoid 2 года назад
Very well explained - I had zero understanding of boost control, only had a basic understanding of what the wastegate does. Excellent video
@dannynavarro9836
@dannynavarro9836 4 года назад
Dude I’ve never watched such an informative video on this subject, incredible job, thank you so much
@wickedjonnyg2410
@wickedjonnyg2410 2 года назад
Man...I know you've read it before but thankyou so so much for the info in your videos. Hands down one of the best at teaching and explaining about boost setups,etc..
@galileobosco6267
@galileobosco6267 Месяц назад
This video is INSANE, so glad there are channels like this. Cheers from Italy fellas!!
@东东-j1b
@东东-j1b 3 года назад
Awesome video and great illustrations for teaching about the turbo, waste gate and the various Boost Controllers and setups. Now I have a better and clearer understanding of them! Wonderful! Thx a lot!
@willofscott4611
@willofscott4611 2 года назад
That was brilliantly presented, so understandable, and your style of talking and speed of commentary is so easy to listen too and the data is capture-able on the first time listening! I wish I could take you everywhere so you could explain everything to me, in your style…I would be a genius in no time! I could skip the data chip implant that is sure to come some day, simply to attempt to keep up with AI…yikes! Great work, you are doing your gift! Keep on keeping on! Thank you much!
@shaunwolton176
@shaunwolton176 3 года назад
Great video, very well explained. I had a 4 port solenoid for ages and it baffled me why so many ports and just fitted a basic Manuel adjuster instead for ease. Turns out then the 4 port would of been good, bloody Shane I didn't no how to install 20 years ago 👍
@Manuqtix.Manuqtix
@Manuqtix.Manuqtix 6 месяцев назад
This is one of the best videos you’ve ever made. Not that crap about inline 5 can’t be carburetored
@hashemmi24
@hashemmi24 3 года назад
At last i understood the types of boost control, Great vid as always ! if i may comment from an electromechanical perspective that the signal going to the solenoid changes multiple times per second, but the solenoid actually doesn't. It floats in an a state in-between open and close, sort of hanging in the balance, leaning more towards the higher percentage.
@magnusandersen8898
@magnusandersen8898 4 года назад
Can't wait for episode 4! It's such a nice series
@maikelnait4495
@maikelnait4495 7 месяцев назад
The whole concept and explanation are so beautiful that I get emotional.
@SRTKOVA
@SRTKOVA Год назад
This channel need more recognition. This is a NO bs video NO bait bs
@jamesg8246
@jamesg8246 2 года назад
Such a perfect explanation!
@theautodidacticman_
@theautodidacticman_ 2 года назад
What’s your take on a compound turbo? Which of these products would be beneficial and what would you use if building a compound turbo setup? The larger low pressure turbo feeding the smaller high pressure turbo on the compressor (cold) side, and the smaller high pressure feeding the larger low pressure on the turbine (hot) side. These videos are helping out a lot, so I look forward in watching other ones you’ve put on the RU-vid. I appreciate ya bro, and all the best!
@bmxriderforlife1234
@bmxriderforlife1234 Год назад
I have a compound boost set up and it works great. However I'm using twin charging. Super plus a turbo. Reduces turbo lag and the turbo actually helps the efficiency of the supercharger. Another benefit is it constantly helps pull fresh cold air into the engine and provides to levels of intercooling. Off the line torque plus high revving hp. However some issues. Throttlebody placement becomes a key factor. You usually need dual blowoff valves or really good system design. There are a few ways of doing it. You also have to do the math to figure out peak boost and stages of boost. You also essentially need a full turbo and super set up. From what I know of compound boost turbos. Works best when doing high boost like above 30lbs of boost. For turbos maybe even 40lbs or more. Twin charger systems have a few other advantages that make it make sense and lower boost levels but I think it's still like 25lbs of boost. You can go super blowing through the turbo or the super pulling through the turbo. All depends how custom you go. Might have to do an engine that's a hot vee so intake on the outside exhaust in the middle. Might do either a central super with dual manifolds. Or per cylinder bank with dual intakes and 2 turbos. Flatplane engine as well, so pushing hot exhaust gasses centrally cold air with less heat soak issues snd the benefits of pressure differentials. But would likely mean a Y joint or dual turbos. With turbos it's more about efficiency of boosting. Modern turbos are super efficient and generally can handle reasonable levels of boost with appropriate size engines. Diesel world will have alot of helpful info. If you're gonna do compound boost I'd go roots maybe even twin scroll super and throw a turbo in with it. Roots is easiest. Also means you don't need as high end gear. Basic roots and turbo kit like stage 1s together can be like a stage 3 set up done properly. But way more tuned.
@jerrymaushard3835
@jerrymaushard3835 Месяц назад
Excellent!! Thank you so much for explaining how this solenoid works and what its function is.
@NieJestemzPolskiPL
@NieJestemzPolskiPL 4 года назад
My fav series on youtube is back, hell yeah!
@JohnHonda2
@JohnHonda2 Год назад
Im building a turbo k24 and this video helped me alot understanding boost controllers. Great video 👍👍
@Pandadixx
@Pandadixx 3 года назад
Dude , I’m not going to lie I was going to jump the gun on buying a sc for my car and it was because I had no real understanding how a turbo really works but looking at this I see more of an appeal and understanding of how this system is better . . . . Holy shit man thanks for all your vids man .
@SnowGolem1TheL33t
@SnowGolem1TheL33t 3 года назад
This is a very great and informative video - however I have to call you out on something. Boost control can go down to 0psi technically, BMW uses vacuum operated wastegate actuators which are controlled by solenoids allowing stored vacuum to close them, by default these wastegates are completely open and would make 0psi of boost pressure if all of the boost control gear was disconnected or malfunctions. They're essentially the same as a normal wastegate actuator, however operating in reverse.
@jaybeezm5193
@jaybeezm5193 4 года назад
My type of Online classes 🤝 I should be taking notes for the final exam tho 🤭
@fraymond3
@fraymond3 4 года назад
Excellent work! Watching your channel grow and improve has been a treat.
@josediazasmr6014
@josediazasmr6014 4 года назад
I agreee with all the folks commenting here, thank you very much for this information and knowledge. You are the best 👏
@Bang4YerBuck
@Bang4YerBuck 2 года назад
Great video. It made me understand why I need a 3-port & not a 4-port. Using IWG.
@gutterrashautomotive3361
@gutterrashautomotive3361 2 года назад
What a great video - clarified a few things for me, Thank you
4 года назад
This is one of the best illustration on how that works. Thank you so much 👍🏼🍻
@Vok250
@Vok250 Год назад
Never found another explanation this effective and easy to understand. Thanks brother!
@o0Guns0o
@o0Guns0o 3 года назад
Absolutely best video on turbo boost control out there! Great work, very informative video.
@Nypartcannon
@Nypartcannon 3 года назад
I’ve looked all over the internet for a good explanation ! You my friend are a very talented man bravo
@2BugsandaBack
@2BugsandaBack 3 года назад
Such a good clear explanation. Thanks so much for making this video. Its really helped me to understand my setup 👍
@andreydemario6439
@andreydemario6439 4 года назад
I didnt knew about the "4 way" solenoid! It's a really nice concept, BUT, using 2 "3 way" solenoid seems to be more efficient and provides a bettter tuning
@mike-yp1uk
@mike-yp1uk Месяц назад
This is the best turbo description I've seen yet
@postdeath6920
@postdeath6920 3 года назад
GREAT VID... and i must add “ AEM IS THE WAY”
@mikeautostudent5562
@mikeautostudent5562 3 года назад
Very nice video with nice images that help to understand and teaching style is very patient manner that makes it easy to follow in the right pace. 👍
@kevgits
@kevgits Год назад
This explainer is so on point. Made me understand the 3-port solenoid like never before.
@robertedwards7695
@robertedwards7695 Год назад
Really appreciate all the info given in this very informative video. Thanking you Robbbert from Melbourne Australia.
@brianbrigg57
@brianbrigg57 4 года назад
You didn't mention electronic waste gates. No springs and total control of boost all the time. I'm guessing that's more because of your sponsors not having them yet. Great video otherwise and the clarification of the boost control systems was the best I've seen.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 2 года назад
Only a fool trusts a computer to last forever.
@brianbrigg57
@brianbrigg57 2 года назад
@@fastinradfordable Only a fool trusts his cars ECU, TCM etc. etc. Electronic waste gates have no computer, they are controlled by the ECU without which no modern car will run.
@hozisalehi
@hozisalehi 4 года назад
Great video my man! Cleared up a lot of my confusion about boost control solenoids. Have you heard of Turbosmart's Electronic wastegate? I kinda wished it would've came up, but it's fairly new, and quite expensive, so I get it, probably won't be a topic soon. It is cool though, no spring, pretty much just an electric motor on the wastegate, you do all your boost control from that, no solenoid, no spring. Probably amazing control. Still, quite expensive.
@desmondhakurekwi5872
@desmondhakurekwi5872 4 года назад
Why not replace the diaphragm with a servo actuator that is controlled by the ECU based on current boost, temp, throttle position etc???
@negativeindustrial
@negativeindustrial 4 года назад
Desmond Hakurekwi Thought must be put into how does the device acts during a failure. Meaning, when the device inevitably fails, will it cause the setup to build infinite boost, no boost at all, etc. Not an argument against the use of a servo. Just an important consideration.
@desmondhakurekwi5872
@desmondhakurekwi5872 4 года назад
Neg Ative I understand but look at a drive by wire throttle, how does it respond when the throttle body fails? It’s servo based btw
@negativeindustrial
@negativeindustrial 4 года назад
Desmond Hakurekwi Not sure. All my cars have three pedals, cables and linkages. However, I do have the three port setup for boost control shown in this video and I’m an engineer, so, before I bought the system I spent some time going over their sparse technical bulletins. I didn’t find an answer to my concern but they have some decent technical staff answering their phones and I found the answer I was looking for. Edit: That’s not true. My DD Lexus LS is stock and it has an electronic throttle. Forgot about that one.
@electric7487
@electric7487 2 года назад
That's what a lot of manufacturers are moving towards. Turbosmart just unveiled new fully electronic wastegates and actuators recently. The final, and ultimate, step will be variable vane turbos and variable nozzle turbos.
@igvtec
@igvtec 4 года назад
Hell yes, thank you for this very informative video I wasn't 100% sure how the boost solenoids worked exactly. long time subscriber from the start of the channel absolutely love it keep up the good work mate. 😎
@BassistUndStolzDrauf
@BassistUndStolzDrauf 3 года назад
this explenations isn't really correct though. it doesn't really alternate between opened and closed. the duty cycle of the PWM signal just adjusts the total energy going to the actuator by switching on and off very rapidly. a lot quicker than the mechanical side coul actually react to. that means at 50% duty cycle the plunger will stay approximately at 50% position, and won't be closed 50% of the time and fully open 50% of the time
@jsmcortina
@jsmcortina 3 года назад
@@BassistUndStolzDrauf Not with the frequencies most boost solenoids run at (10Hz or so.) PWM idle valves do operate as you describe.
@ax-50
@ax-50 3 года назад
Tbh after watching this video, I got the feeling of "I've seen a lot" which is good since the video explained it clearly
@gamerin
@gamerin 2 года назад
Best guide to boost controller on RU-vid. Thanks!
@Acidalley
@Acidalley 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for rounding this all up so nicely
@2jsanc681
@2jsanc681 3 года назад
Perfect video. I had my mind on trying to understand boost pressure systems and this video popped right up.
@alextorres4879
@alextorres4879 3 месяца назад
So glad i ran into this video, right when im on the sesrch for a boost controller, great video very informative, thank you
@benjiisilva
@benjiisilva 3 года назад
Best video iv ever seen when it came down to breaking it down and how it’s set up exactly! I give a A+++++ lol
@QURATZ
@QURATZ 3 года назад
Excellent video, I love the explanation however you forgot one other trick people use, that's a co2 bottle to control a 7psi spring and achieve 70psi of boost if required. Although only really used in drag cars but still another trick to run low boost off the line and feed it high boost down the strip. Either way I love your videos, svaka cast, samo napred!
@scarecrow1323
@scarecrow1323 Год назад
hey D4A. I'm new to your channel and I am impressed. very detailed and informative. One thing I have noticed on RU-vid is that nobody seems to highlight how important the distinction of how the exhaust turbine is driven. Specifically that it is not the speed of the exhaust gasses passing through the turbine, but the heat of the exhaust gasses passing through the turbine. An example being that a diesel engine in a transport truck can have achieved full boost at the very bottom of its rev range when climbing a long hill for example. Or another way of phrasing it wound be that the volume of exhaust gasses is what drives the turbine.. and hotter gasses have more volume. This fact was a game changer for me when I first started learning about turbo supercharging systems. Some people might think that the turbo lag is caused by the fact that the RPMs haven't gotten high enough to spool the turbo up, but in fact the turbo lag is caused by the time it takes to build up the exhaust gas temperature when at full fuel / throttle but low RPM... and that the exhaust gas temp and the increased pressure that the compressor forces into the engine are a positive feedback loop.... as more fuel is added, the exhaust gas gets hotter which increases turbine and compressor speed and boost pressure, which provides more air volume on the intake which allows for more fuel which creates more exhaust gas heat... and on and on it goes. anyway... great video series dude. just a little point that for some reason I can never let go of... lol. exhaust turbine is driven by heat, not RPM. thnx again.
@andresortiz2922
@andresortiz2922 4 года назад
Please the next video talk about a compresor map, amazing videos
@abdomar0528
@abdomar0528 4 года назад
Was waiting for this episode all week
@Velkanis
@Velkanis 4 года назад
now i wonder... is anyone out there making custom ecu's like the AEM infinity for diesel applications? been looking into doing some absolutely dumb things with those.... you my friend keep shovin that high quality knowledge please, its fantastic!
@ln5427
@ln5427 3 года назад
Planning on starting a project in spring and the engine has absolutely 0 kits and tuning following so I have to do everything myself this video helped so much to get my head around the subject thank you
@scunnerdarkly4929
@scunnerdarkly4929 4 года назад
Excellent as always. Love the still of Jeremy Clarkson’s face from his lap in an Ariel Atom (and yes they do make your face inflate like that).
@vasko928
@vasko928 4 года назад
Very nice video! Electric actuators?
@woodwardperformance
@woodwardperformance Год назад
Thanks for making this video series! I'm at Hennessey's Tuner School and your videos are a great supplement to my education. You would make a great Tuner School teacher!
@lemster101
@lemster101 4 года назад
That meme about boost without control had me on the floor.
@rhetericalpha
@rhetericalpha 4 года назад
I wish this video was available months ago before I did hours and hours of research to figure a 3 port was the way for me to go. Great video none the less
@moocow2172
@moocow2172 3 года назад
Best car youtuber, hands down
@hooniganjzx1106
@hooniganjzx1106 4 года назад
This video was extremely helpful thanks !!! Continue to keep up the good work and keep those vids coming
@darrylyoes414
@darrylyoes414 3 года назад
Extraordinarily well done! Thank you!
@aniruddhaverulkar3841
@aniruddhaverulkar3841 3 года назад
This channel is really addictive. Amazing
@gabrielrobles4087
@gabrielrobles4087 Год назад
So glad i ran into this channel
@saigoneze4465
@saigoneze4465 2 года назад
Best boost explanation video ever
@ahumeniy
@ahumeniy 8 месяцев назад
Thanks to this video, I figured out what was going on with my Golf TDI lack of power. The solenoid was incorrectly plugged to the turbo.
@davehallier8584
@davehallier8584 3 года назад
Pulling my hair out! We have a total of THREE 3 Volvos in our shop this week! Of them, one is a 2003 XC90 T6. Using both Autel and VIDA, the scanners both show DTC # 6814 code. All we have done (knowingly!) is rebuild the 4T65e auto trans and re & re it with Bevel Gear assembly. Since then, while the motor ran beautifully before, now it won't spool up the turbos properly, won't stay running at startup cold, won't engage turbos with high throttle input. I am somewhat familiar with the boost control solenoid and MAF sensor readings. But even after replacing the MAF 3x with used, and BCS 2x with used, doing a leak test, etc., hasn't resolved the issue. If we purchase and install an OEM BCS and/or Boost sensor, I fear this still isn't it! Some say they is an "O" ring contraction/expansion in the turbo to exhaust manifold area might be it? CAN YOU OFFER ANY IDEAS OR BETTER COMPONETS OR UPGRADES, ie. like AEM or Holley brands? Dave
@vincecloudchaser2486
@vincecloudchaser2486 4 года назад
Underrated youtuber.
@wanagon1820
@wanagon1820 3 года назад
one of the best informal videos i have seen in a long time
@igorsouza4066
@igorsouza4066 3 года назад
Now, i'd enjoy very much if you explain about the new electronic wastage, and why is so revolutionary !!!
@michaelduggan8798
@michaelduggan8798 3 года назад
Great diagrams, clear explanation with a very pleasant voice.
@RX7GSLSEowner
@RX7GSLSEowner 4 года назад
I've been waiting for this! Excellent video, thanks! Am looking forward to the next session!
@Manuqtix.Manuqtix
@Manuqtix.Manuqtix 2 года назад
There is more to this than what is being explained 1. Waste gate sizing 2. Some basic waste gate actuator you can adjust the arm 3. On some turbos the wastegate is completely electronic 4. Variable geometry turbos 5. I think you can adjust the boost pressure via the blow off valve to vent boost when boost gets too high
@lockjawjak
@lockjawjak 4 года назад
No views? Well we cant have that can we!
@richeyrich2203
@richeyrich2203 Год назад
Love the info presented for easy understanding. Comment for the algro (Even though it’s a giant advertisement for AEM)
@AllynWrench
@AllynWrench 4 года назад
I was hoping there was a bonus round of boost control. Maybe I am thinking ahead of the teacher and I just need to chill haha. I feel like there is more coming though. Variable vein turbochargers? Maybe that ingenious freevalve design that controls everything by removing everything!? No waste gate, no blow off valve, not even a throttle plate, no camshafts!?! I love this guys videos and I am totally excited to see what's coming.
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