I think a lot of it is just not hearing it more than once. If you could ask her to repeat herself, or hear it again (via Animus?), then I think this would have been solved a lot faster. The fact that the game gaslit us on the translation doesn't help, either.
I understood about every third or fourth word she spoke. When Eivor seems to break the Fourth Wall and look at the game’s camera with confusion on his face I laughed my butt off.
I’m a Welsh speaker and Brigid’s scenes were low key my favourite in Valhalla. Welsh gets used as an inspiration to many things (Witcher series and LOTR just off the top of my head), but nice to finally see some actual language spoken in a game. Thank you for this video
@@oraetlabora1922 I can speak welsh fluently (did both primary and comprehensive school in welsh) and I could not tell you. I can tell she’s speaking welsh, but her accent is thick even to me snd I can only make out a word or two that she says. It’s probably because she’s from north wales and I’m from south (the voice actor) and there’s some slight but impactful differences.
thank you for this translation! as a Welsh speaker, I’ve hoped of one day Welsh being in a AAA game and given the same treatment Italian and French has had in an Assassin’s Creed game, and nothing came as more of a slap in the face as seeing words that I understood be labelled as ‘unintelligible’. But I guess Wenglish has always existed, even in the 9th century 😂🏴
I think that would be AWESOME! Say an action RPG akin to these games, but taking place in the mid 500s, when there was more warfare and politicking between the assorted kingdoms of the time. Us Texans would need some subtitles, though.
I totally understand. Betty Robertson, one of the writers for this game, said the subtitles said "[unintelligible]" because it's through Eivor and Eivor can't understand Welsh, but Gunnar certainly does!
@@lostsoul7345 you'd be surprised how quickly you can learn a language when you live around people who speak it - saying from experience, but with Spanish
Her voice actress is Aimee-Ffion Edwards, a Welsh actress and singer famous for her role in Skins as Sketch and Esme Shelby in Peaky Blinders, she also voice as Ranni the Witch from the Elden Ring.
I like how Gunnar is practically the only person in Ravensthorpe that perfectly understands Brigid, as it gives more insight into what I originally thought was a simple blacksmith.
While her language alone doesn't mean Brigid couldn't have been Anglo-Saxon, if she came from a long line of Welsh people, she would be Celtic. Just like the Vikings after them, the Anglo-Saxons had little impact on the genetics of Wales. It's only in later centuries that the intermarriage between Welsh and wider "Britain" introduced significant bloodlines into Wales. Even today only 30% of the DNA in Wales is from cultures other than Celtic. I really enjoyed the video, thanks very much to you and the translators.
Wow they actually really did their research, she mentions that her mum and dad are in Annwn, which is the Welsh version of the underworld (Underworld here is different to 'hell' it's basically the spirit realm you go to when you die where Arawn will greet you). I was quite disappointed at first as I was thinking they were going to leave out The Welsh and the Welsh language again, but hearing Brigid speak was a breath of fresh air, even getting to participate in a Mari Lwyd! Props to who made this happen, it was a favourite part of the game for me.
pretty much every version of underworld that's not "hell" isn't that bad, mainly because in those mythos its also the only afterlife there is bout the only one i can think of that is comparable to Christian hell is the Norse "Hel" but that could also be due to most of our sources being from after the chrisinization of the area
I was able to understand some of what Brigid said but I don’t really know Welsh so I couldn’t understand what she said but could figure out the gist of what she’s saying. I do wonder if they should’ve had it where Eivor eventually understands what Brigid says after a while or if it’s funnier that Eivor remains confused.
Yes this was the exact same for me I could understand much of it and couldn't work out why I actually understood it when I wasn't really meant to know the words just the feeling
It would be so funny if in future expansions Eivor can talk to Brigid and it's just "Eivor! [unintelligible] happy [unintelligible] with Gunnar!" where Eivor only gets like 3 of the words and is happy with herself for thinking she understands
Indeed Ubisoft has done their homework. I am fluent in Welsh and partially fluent in the Old Welsh Language which is even harder than the traditional Welsh language that we use today. It's complicated to read and write even I struggle at times. It's more Gaelic, to be honest, and not many people can read and write of even speak the old Welsh language. I taught myself and have perfected it over the years.
I'm really glad you put in the work to do this. It's really unfortunate and frankly a bit offensive that Ubisoft threw in languages into the game and didn't offer a translation. Especially when the Animus is known to be able to do this. Apparently some non-English language versions of the game actually use subtitles for Brigid which makes it even more confusing why they wouldn't do this in the English version.
Thank you so much for the kind words about our work! Yep, it's a pity Ubi didn't share the text on their own, but on the bright side we were able to share the content with all of you guys, so we're pretty happy nonetheless!
Thank you for the translation/subtitles! And yeah, I thought it was quite rude to have the joke [unintelligible] every time she speaks when every other character is fine...
As a proud Welshman this is awesome. Thank you for this, our language is ancient but it’s one of the most beautiful languages around and is still spoken today. It’s great to see it given a platform in such mainstream media 🏴
As a Welsh person I was happy when they showed off some cool Welsh stuff in this game but when they introduced Brigid's character and subtitled everything she said as "Unintelligible" just felt like a huge slap in the face and I appreciate you mentioning that in the video
@Joachim Huniche exactly French is fine and I wouldn't care if Eivor didn't understand it, the Animus is supposed to translate for us so Ubisoft could of easily given us proper subtitles while still making Eivor looking confused
@a year later and I honestly have to disagree it would be bring more people closer than trying to have someone search for the language and the player is NOT Evior you are just reliving her memories it's how Assassin's Creed works
Poor Eivor, everytime her face becomes when it's time to reply Brigid... 😂 Thanks a lot for the translation and make us rid of the agony of not understanding that Semi-Isu language... 😅
I really wish they had made the subtitles be translated, but still have all the characters just be, "Oh. Well. Yes, I'm happy to have met you." We're in the Animus (not just Accessing), and I don't speak Icelandic, Norwegian, Old English, Irish, or French. The Animus must be making those make sense, so why not Brigid? Wait, Gunnar made a one-handed sword, but we had to travel to /Francia/ to learn how those worked??? :-P
Now this was good. During the wedding I could tell that she loved Gunnar. But now we all know what she said. And Gunnar was right it was quite nice poetry. Poetry of Love.
1. I was so disappointed when the subtitles did that when we met Brigid. You can still have the joke of misunderstanding if you want it that badly by prefacing the character has a thick accent in the subtitles, or even saying "(Eivor cannot understand)". The player can infer from there based on context that only Gunnar understands her, and you don't leave deaf or HoH people completely in the dark on what she's saying. 2. a COMBINATION. that makes SO much more sense now. I caught the majority of her english words and phrases when I played, but I was so confused as to why i was still missing so much when some words and phrases were perfectly clear. 3. thank you for the video!
Ngl I thought she spoke a varient of the Mohawk Language, I was so exhausted by the end that I didn't care to check. Anyways, great translation as always.
I DO get the point we are playing from the viewpoint of a 7th century Norse Viking, Old English back then was still a mutually intelligible dialect to Norse, with the Danish Vikings and East Anglians having least difficulty (like modern Norwegian to Danish, they probably joked about their grammar being like speaking with their mouth full of potatoes too!). The Welsh (Romano Britons!) Would have been treated as a truly alien culture hence the blunt "unintelligible" comments were subtitles should be. But as a "proud East Anglian" myself I wish they could have not described the East Anglians as Saxons, they were Angles and I'm quite sure the Welsh players don't appreciate Her being referred to as Anglo Saxon as she is speaking Welsh. :)
When I played these parts I got so excited listening to the Welsh in her speech that I didn’t realise she was speaking part English too 😂 thank you access the animus! ❤️🏴
i recognized a word or two here and there so i figured it was part english. at one point i thought she was speaking a form of english but her baroque was so heavy it was impossible to understand.
I'm almost convinced she is voiced by Aimee-Ffion Edwards, who voiced Ranni in Elden RIng and Mio in Xenoblade Chronicles 3. SHe has a Valhalla voice credit, is welsh and sounds veeery similar
I was able to understand where she spoke about the origin of Samhain and how this world and the "paranormal" one are close and they dress so that the creatures do not attack or mistake them for their own. I believe this was the woman that spoke of this
I'm a Welsh speaker and I've just played this arc and it was bothering me why I could only understand abit of what she was saying. Now I know why, thank you
Thank you for posting this video. I'm Welsh and was excited to encounter spoken Welsh during play. This video is reassuring as having listened to Brigid's dialogue, I thought I was losing my Welsh🤣. Didn't realise that they'd incorporated old English as well. I was really confused for a while there.
I found it so weird that they included subtitles for the native american language but not the Welsh. One of the parts of the game that was played for loughts that I just could not find funny. Thanks for translating what she said.
Thanks to this. Up to this date I still don't know what she's saying. I thought she was an idiot or something. It's really not good to put "Unintelligible" in the subtitle. They should at least put "Welsh/Old English".
As I was playing, the more I heard her the more I understood. You could catch some of it, but let's be honest. There's quite a bit you wouldn't pick up on if it wasn't fully translated.
I could always understand abit of what she was saying but it always seemed to be one word you can clearly hear mixed with a lot of Old Welsh this vid is so cool!
Thank you for for giving the Welsh language a voice. It’s a beautiful language. I know a good bit of Welsh and I can certainly say that this is accurate. Gwaith da!
I was kinda annoyed that I wasn’t able to understand Brigid ‘cause I was actually interested in what she was saying, but Ubisoft said, “Nope!” 😂 Glad this translation helped me a lot.
Great video. I was trying to understand her and recognize the language. I was so surprised when she said “dim diolch” and I actually understand it :) I was pretty proud of myself (I am from Poland and I took some Welsh lessons for fun).
This could have been a really easy and palatable way for some representation points on Ubi's part if they had just subtitled it with the language in parentheses or something. Instead, they went with (a little crude) humour. Oh well :/
I'm told for the Chinese versions of it they actually put subtitles so Chinese viewers wouldn't just think she was speaking English, why Ubisoft didn't for the English version is confusing, lazy and insulting.
Why doesnt brigid open a charm shop? I hope ubi will follow up on that would be truly immersive. Especially if you got it translated. What i wanna know is how does gunnar understand lol.
I wish people would stop writing "unintelligible" in subtitles. For starters, I have subtitles on because I often don't understand what's said. But also deaf people who rely on them are probably pissed off with it too. A funny interraction in the game, which could've been made funnier if I could've read the subtitles.
It makes sense to have subtitles say unintelligible if you're not supposed to understand them or if it actually is unintelligible. The joke is that you are not supposed to understand her. If they subbed her lines like in this vid it wouldnt make it funnier. It would just ruin the joke.
Lol I'm Welsh so when playing through the game I could understand brigid I belive shes from a region of Wales called gwynedd the way she speaks the language sounds like it I hope you find this useful
I thought she was speaking Irish. Props for translating. Judging from other comments, Ubisoft were on-point with the language. But come on, there shouldve been subtitles for us. Same goes for the Native American language. And the Animus wouldve been the perfect way to do justify it. Wasnt it mentioned since AC1 that the Animus translates everything in English for the person in it? Because Altir wouldn't have spoke English, he wouldve spoke Arabic. Ezio wouldve spoke Italian. Heck, Connor spoke English because of the apple of Eden giving him such knowledge, but at least in his era, English was common(same for Edward). Arno wouldve spoke French. Shay wouldve spoke Irish, or the Irish accent was accurate to the era, etc.
Dude I can’t believe the words she was saying, especially in her vows. It’s a bit of a disappointment that Ubi just more so made a joke out of everyone not understanding her.
Thanks for the video, pretty entertaining. But are actually able to write each word she said? It looks to be that she says some words in english but in very very old english. It would be great to see these dialogues writed to understand better the sentences she said.
YES! ... Hopefully. I've started drafting the script for that, but it's taking me quite some time. But yeah, still working on it, especially because there's a lot of you asking for it :D I just had all the other news and rumors to take care of along with some more upcoming content by the other members of the team, hence why it's taking some more time than planned ^^ Always busy times at ATA! - Markuz
The first time I heard her speak I thought it was Irish since we were to the west, and then I remember that we were on the Southwestern part, so it was obviously Welsh. Also, without knowing any Welsh, but being aware of the influences that English probably had, some of the most basic stuff was really easy to understand, so having Eivor be unsure was even more confusing to me.
As a welsh speeker and i understood most of whatbshe said. Different parts of wales speak a slightly different welsh. I thought it was a bit rude for the games makesrs to put (unintelligible) instead of subtitles also what she speaks is a mic of moderen english and modern welsh its not old english or brittonic
Even though I don't know Welsh which I immediately thought that's what it sounded like. I could pick up some of the words she said and then turned on subtitles and then started laughing
Why did Ubisoft make the creative choice to single her language out and mark them as "unintelligible"? I can think of many reasons to not to bother with an extra archaic language (cost, minor character in overarching plot, inconvenience, discontinuity with rest of the game where no saxons speak old english, etc.). Even less reason to not just put the original script in as subtitle and leave the players actually confused. There has to be some creative justification to do so that I struggle to understand.
I don’t speak welsh but I’m surprised at how close the dialogue is to what I thought it might have been 😂 I could pick out some words that sounded familiar and just strung the words together haha
I swear I met her a few times and then I made out that she is actually saying some actual words. I stayed and continued to try and understand what she was saying, gave up after an hour
I kinda caught half of what she said, but the other half was hard as all Hel to understand at all... ...and I don't even speak English! Brigid says some lines if you interact with her post-wedding on Gunnar's shop, but I think it's only a simple thing like "how are you?" or "good day!"...
Oddly enough I almost understood Bridget speech most of the time. Like I would understand about 60% of what she said. Mainly using context clues and character speech patterns created by the writers.
