All Christians Believe in Predestination: The Classic Collection with R.C. Sproul 

Praise the Lord!

Amen my brother.

God bless

Welcome to the family! Praise God!

@@bobbyv8126 God bless you, brother.

Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

He chose you because he loves you like a father loves his child.

I can't tell you the day, month, or hour. But if I had to give a year range, I would say I became regenerated sometime between 2017-2018. 2019 is the year things have become so serious. I can't go a day without thinking about God. It doesn't happen.

Ramson Cole God bless you, brother.

ALL mankind was born again at the cross. This was accomplished by Christ.

Same here. When I really accepted Gods totality of control, I realized I had no choice but to obey. 😂 I’m scared of Gods hand if I give into any temptation….

You are not alone. Same here

Roman 6:16-17 states. "You are slaves of the one you obey, either of sin, which leads you to death, or of obedience to teaching, which leads you to righteousness." And 1 John 3:8-9 states, "Whoever sins belongs to the Devil. No one, who is begotten by God, commits sin." Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, please examine yourselves sincerely and determine which category you belong to. Many of you believe some verses in the Bible, think they know and follow Christ, and are saved; and find themselves to be in the first one. Why? Because they do not truly know Christ, nor the True Faith, and are separated from the Source of Grace like branches separated from the Vine (John 15:6). St. Paul said in 1 Cor 9:27, "I chastise my body and bring it into subjection, lest perhaps, after I have preached to others, I myself should become a reprobate." St. Paul, an Apostle, was concerned about the possibility of losing his salvation, thus proving that 'Once Saved, Always Saved', 'Faith alone", or 'Predestined" is a complete lie, and that the salvation requires a great efforts on our part to truly live according to Our Lord's Commandments of Love and observing All He commanded as taught by His One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church (Matt 28:20), so that we may be transformed into the True Image and Likeness of Christ (Rom 8:29, 2 Cor 3:18); because, we are judged, not by Faith, but according to our deeds and works (Rev 20:13, 22:12. Matt 25:31-46). Our Lord said, "Sins against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven (Matt 12:31-32, Mark 3:29, Luke 12:10)." Do not be shocked, but you all, who follow false teachings of protestant churches, have sins against the Holy Spirit, who always remains with, and guide the Catholic Church (John 14:16-17, 16:13), by rejecting the Catholic Church teachings. Why remain outside the Catholic Church, Our Lord's Only Fold (John 10:16), His Body and Bride whom He saves (Eph 5:23), and risk your eternal salvation? Come to His Sheepfold quickly, like the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-32), before it is too late. Amen!

​@@hyeminkwun9523, Sorry bro, none of the verses that you gave can disprove election snd predestination or once saved is always saved...

@@reynaldodavid2913Jo After ordering the Apostles to go to all nations and teach them to OBSERVE ALL He commanded (Matt 28:20), Our Lord said, "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned (Mark 16:16)." Which group do you think you belong to? Since protestant churches reject the Catholic Church and Her teachings, all those, who follow them, belong to the 2nd group. Do you know why they have difficulty in understanding the Bible? It's because they do not have the Holy Spirit's guidance, for He withdraws from the souls who follow falsehood and have no True Faith, without which it is impossible to please God (Heb 11:6). Protestant churches did not even exist, until Luther founded his in AD 1524 after rebelling against the Roman Catholic Church, the pillar and foundation of the Truth (1 Tim 3:15) and Our Lord's Body, and, thus, reject Our Lord, Her Head (Eph 5:23, Col 1:18). The protestant schism was against God's Will that all believers of Him be One (John 17:20). To justify their existence, all protestant churches reject, attack, and work against the Catholic Church. Our Lord said, "Amen, Amen, I say to you, whoever receives the one I send, receives Me and whoever receives Me receives the One who sent Me (John 13:20; Matt 10:40)," "Whoever listens to you listens to Me. Whoever rejects you, rejects Me and rejects the One who sent Me (Luke 10:16)," and "Whoever is not with Me is against Me (Matt 12:30). Whoever rejects Me and does not accept My Words has something to judge him; the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day (John 12:48). You do not believe because you are not among My sheep (John 10:26)." Do you think people lived before Luther were deceived by the Catholic Church and lost their salvation? Nonsense! Can God's Only Institution, with which God remains always until the end of the world (Matt 28:20, John 14:16-17), fail? Never as Our Lord said, "the gates of Hell shall not prevail against Her (Matt 16:18)." You are free to believe it or not at your own peril. God leaves everyone to choose Life or Death on their own free will (Sirach 15:17). But why follow wolves in sheep's clothing and risk your eternal salvation? Come quickly to Our Lord's Church, His Only Sheepfold (John 10:16) before it is too late (for the Antichrist's Satanic reign of terror is imminent), so that you may hear His Voice, truly know and follow Him, and be saved by Him (John 10:27-28). Amen!

Saved by Grace through faith.

I miss him and just started following him

Absolutely true 😊

How do you know He chose you and not the person sitting next to you at church? Tell me, how does one know they are ''chosen''? You don't, and that's what's so absurd about this doctrine of the Dark Ages! But, it's sure nice knowing you got a place in Heaven and others will be wood for the eternal flames of hell! Sick stuff!

@@michaelparrott57 How do you know He chose you and not the person sitting next to you at church? Tell me, how does one know they are ''chosen''? You don't, and that's what's so absurd about this doctrine of the Dark Ages! But, it's sure nice knowing you got a place in Heaven and others will be wood for the eternal flames of hell! Sick stuff!

​@@michaelreyes8182very simple read the book of JAMES and know you are saved.

@@michaelreyes8182 how do you know he chose you? 4 things: 1. Who/what do you love in life 2. Humility - do you recognize your sin 3. Obedience - do you have the urge to be like Christ. Internal 4. Trials - does your faith stand the test of trials Look deeply into yourself and ask you question this. That’s why RC brought up “regenerate person”.

Amen

Amen! Soli Deo gloria!

Sure is great to know it doesn't hinge on us !!

Right on * John 1:13 Romans 8:28-30 I have those wonderful words underlined. 😊

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@@SpotterVideo amen! Glad I'm not the only one trying to unplug people from the calvinism matrix.

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Romans 11… he’s in hell

Jesus is the devil You’ve been deceived Repent accept jahovah and do good works

@@Madcow7777 How do you know, are you there?

@@cwdor Where does Jehovah say Jesus His only Son is the devil? Are you contradicting Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 7:14? Is His promised son a devil? Or, the one contradicting it?

@@cwdor Nonsense. You cannot answer a simple question. Where is the proof in the Bible? Even if you go to hell, you will not be able to answer my simple and direct question. Stop your nonsense belief. You are being deceived yourself.

That's how it all makes sense- seeing it from God's point of view.

yes the mystery

Amen

Yes I liked his teaching on what many called calvinism. His eschatology was another matter. Basically he was led astray in partial preterism which is heresy

Eternal bliss

My favourite theologian, too!

@@marksorenson5871 - Partial preterism is still not as dangerous and unbiblical as dispensationalism.

@@c.c.7687 Yes dispensationalism is crazy

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

He was a natural 🙏🏽

And so young here.

@@mitchellc4 ..John 1:1-'In the beginning was rhe Word & the Word was with God & the Word WAS God -vs 14 'and the Word became flesh & dwelt among us' And read here in Jogn 1 & Colossians 1..everything was made by Him & through Him & for Him & eveeything us held together by Him..this is our Jesus. He declared Himself God when Ge was asked who are You ' He saud:'before Avraham was I AM'. He was stined fir blasogemt after they picjed rhemsekves up iff the ground. They fell backwards when He said this name that God told tio Mises in Exidus 3!

@@yvonnerahui8729 Who is the God of Jesus???? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, Col 1 3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Exactly. Well said.

Exactly the same for me.

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No part? I really dislike these over the top rhetorical statements that seem to be designed to sow discord in the body of Christ rather than edify the body or point out real issues that someone can repent from. Let's look at the Westminster Confession, a "Calvinist" confession that lays out every part of Calvinism in a comprehensive overview. Chapter 2 spells out the doctrine of God. One piece of that is that God exists. Are you willing to stand by your claim that no part of Calvinism stands up to scripture and deny that God exists, or are you willing to concede that Calvinists get at least one part right by affirming the existence of God? Does this exercise help you see why being bit more honest with what you disagree with might be more helpful than a blanket condemnation of every part of Calvinism? This is the problem with over the top rhetoric, by opposing every part of Calvinism, you oppose theism and are left with atheism. Changes are, you issue is more nuanced. Some hate the Reformed idea of the five solas, others hate covenant theology, others hate our affirmation of human free will, and still others hate TULIP (though usually a strawman version of it that is contrary to the Canons of Dort that TULIP is meant to summarize). Where do you stand?

@@oracleoftroy @pipkinrahl7264 I like that mind if I borrow it. Why you should care about Calvinism. It’s doctrines are not Biblical 1)Calvinism = Men are unable to choose God *** Christianity = “Choose you this day whom ye will serve” Joshua 24:15 2) Calvinism = Salvation by lottery *** Christianity = For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:26 3) Calvinism = Christ died for the elect *** Christianity = “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.” John 1:29 4) Calvinism = You are a puppet with no free will *** Christianity = “ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.” Acts 7:51 5) Calvinism = Once Saved, Always Saved *** Christianity = “that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith” 1 Timothy 4:1 Of course, Calvinists have excuses for every one of these points. They will twist Scripture in many ways to justify their unBiblical theology. Calvinism has crept into mainstream Christianity in many ways, most notably in point number 5, taking away any responsibility from the Christian to keep the faith which is the only condition in the promise of Salvation. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16 But why should anyone care? “For I am the LORD, I change not;” Malachi 3:6 Changing the nature of God in such a fundamental way means you are no longer worshiping the God of the Bible. This fact has eternal consequences. Do not be deceived by those who post the likes of Pink, Sproul, and others. Study the Bible, Look to Christ, not to Calvin.

Shut ur proud arminian mouth

Do you not think there are brilliant, Godly people who have studied the bible throughout their lives, and just came to different conclusions about the issue of Calvinism and what predestination and election mean from a biblical perspective? I could say that those who hold the Calvinist view of scripture just haven’t studied enough, but that isn’t an argument for my position, and only creates barriers to discussion. It’s not that non Calvinists don’t believe in predestination and grace, we just have a different understanding of them.

I like the swirl in the middle. Lol.

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He was cool before cool was cool...

The Bible teaches unambiguously that God is not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.😀

IN CHRIST!!!!

Amen

@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC : I'm not sure what one means. Sorry! To be predestined would mean that that person has no choice. (Matthew 24:13) But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.

Predestination in the bible is always about events that occur at the resurrection. Because you’re in Christ, you’ll be conformed to His image as stated in 1John 3.... 1John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. (Being the firstborn refers to the resurrection) Because we’re in Christ, we are predestined to the adoption.... Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. (Redeemed bodies happens at the resurrection) Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will. Because we’re in Christ, we will receive an inheritance at the resurrection.... 1Pe 1:3 ¶ Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Eph 1:11 👉🏻In whom 👈🏻also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: The minute before you believed and were not yet in Christ, you weren’t predestined and had no hope..... Eph 2:11 ¶ Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. 14 ¶ For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Predestination is for Christians, NOT to become Christians. God bless.

@@evanu6579 Your reply is EXCELLENT! Very well done Sir.

Evan U are you a dispensationalist?

madjack821 No sir.

M. S. Thanks brother.

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

@@mitchellc4 Stop your blasphemy it doesn’t belong here! Jesus isn’t God? Go tell that to Thomas who said “My Lord and My God” 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@1988TheHitman Who is the God of Jesus? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, Col 1 3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

It's interesting how I agree with you that RC deserves the eternal rest truly, and yet this very teaching actually shines more light on the truth that no one actually deserves it, haha. Grace!

@@mitchellc4 God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory. (1 Timothy 3:16)

True. But Calvinists have the wrong understanding of what that means.

@@evanu6579 how so? I have not read enough about it

Athan Predestination in the bible is always referring to future events At the resurrection, Christians receive the adoption, they receive the inheritance and they’re conformed into the image of Christ. This is the destination for Christians BECAUSE they’re in Christ, not for unbelievers so that they will be in Christ. Your destination before you were in Christ was hell. Christ changed your destination so that you will now take part of the resurrection of life. Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, The adoption happens at the resurrection..... Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, 👉🏻waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.👈🏻 Our bodies are redeemed and changed into the image of Christ at the resurrection..... Phi 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. At the resurrection we will receive an inheritance..... 1Pe 1:3 ¶ Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath 👉🏻begotten us again unto a lively hope 👈🏻by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Those are the only three times predestination is used in the bible. Just to clarify, Jesus changed our destination..... Eph 2:1 ¶ And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. So your destination went from receiving wrath when you were in the flesh, to receiving the resurrection of life now that you’re in Christ. Let me know if you have any questions. I’ll wait for you to respond before discussing “election”. God bless.

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

You are wrong. Jesus is God in the flesh. In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God and the word was made flesh. In Genesis God said let (us) make man in (our) image, and the Holy spirit was hovering over the waters. Clearly it shows God was not alone. The Holy spirit is clearly a person, who has feelings and can be grieved.The Holy spirit is know as He, He can bring things into remembrance, He speaks, He comforts, and He is a helper.He also brings judgement like He did with Ananias and Sapphira. He is also God.The God Head is The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. All Three were present at the baptism of Jesus. Thomas said my lord and my God and Jesus did not reject that revelation. The Bible says Jesus is from everlasting He is eternal. The Bible says that God will not share His glory with another But Jesus is returning in the Glory of the father. But The Father says of the son your throne, O God, endures forever. Jesus is the great I Am of the Bible. Begotten means to come forth from. Jesus said Father Glorify me with the glory we once shared before the world began. Jesus said to the Father you have been my God (from my mothers womb)( psalms 22:10) but before that Jesus was with the Father and The Holy spirit existing as The One True God. JESUS SAID HE LAYED HIS LIFE DOWN OF HIS OWN ACCORD. Jesus is The Way The Truth and The Life. The disciples said to him just show us The Father, that is all That we need. Jesus, replied. I have been with you for a long time and you do not know me. Jesus is in The Father and The Father is in Jesus. Jesus asked the most personal Question to His disciples. WHO DO YOU SAY THAT I AM. THAT QUESTION IS VERY PERSONAL FOR YOU TO. YOU CAN BELIEVE YOUR RELIGION OR JESUS. PLUS THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE LIGHT HAS COME INTO THE WORLD but men loved the darkness Rather than the light,(THIS IS THE JUDGEMENT) THEY HAD A CHOICE. Matthew 23:37 says that Jerusalem had a choice.oh yeah Jesus only died in the flesh. You are right God can't die. God The Father also Says I will be his Father and he (shall)be my Son. JESUS SPOKE IN THE FLESH AS THE SON OF GOD, BUT HE ALSO SPOKE IN AUTHORITY AS GOD HIMSELF. The one true God exists in 3 persons all eternal all equal, and all the one true God not 3 Gods.

Maybe you're one of the damned.

True, sadly Mr Sproul gets predestination mixed up with Salvation. Sadly the word love is very rearly heard in any Calvinistic sermon

*Who ever believe*.... But who has the power to believe eccept those who God call except the sheeps of God. "NO ONE CAN COME TO ME EXCEPT GOD DRWAWS HIM NEAR" SAYS MESSIAH YESHUA. NO ONE!!! NOT EVEN YOU! SO THAT IT MAY BE GRACE ALON TO THE GLORY OF GOD ALONE

@@Tommythecat007 Pls search the bible verses that talks abour predestination and election then take your stand on them

@@nchofuasegaidprotus8040 your confused

He is humble , but honestly in error on this point.

Really? You think it fair that God created some people, born as sinners, never gave them an effective call so they even had a chance of repenting, believing and being saved, was actually such a micromanager that they could not even commit one sin without God causally decreeing that they should do it, and then send them to hell for eternity for sins that at worst he made them commit, or at best left them totally unable to avoid committing? No friend! You need to flee this twisting of the gospel. By faith you are saved. Not by regeneration and salvation come to faith which is the order that Calvinism gives. The Bible has a different order of salvation to Calvinism. Repent and believe and you will be saved is the order of the Bible. In the same way the very idea of salvation by faith us distorted by many Calvinists - listen to a Calvinist teach on Romans and hear how they put faith on the same side of the equation as works, when saint Paul put it on the opposite side. You really need to get some truth from Leighton Flowers Provisionist Soteriology 101.

Amen and how does that make you or I feel? The meek shall inherit the earth. What humbling facts.

... and among the most absurd, for according to Mr. Sproul (using his definition of "elect"), those very people (the elect) receive an injustice: they go to heaven whereas their less fortunate neighbors go to hell. That itself is an injustice.

@@brendanjobe6895 The elect recieve mercy and grace while the rest receive justice, no one gets injustice. Did you watch the whole video?

@@UnknownUser-dy6ij Yes, I did in spite of the fact that he could have whittled it down to ten minutes and said the same thing. A man commits murder. His brother is the chief-of-police, and he's never arrested: the evidence is destroyed. He received mercy and grace from his brother, for whatever reasons. Is that an injustice? Of course it is. It's not fair to the victim, his family, or society. The one brother (the murderer) just happened to be "elect" in his brother's eyes. Many other examples could be cited in which violent criminals are shown "grace and mercy" - which is usually an injustice. Perhaps Mr. Sproul simply defines "justice" and "injustice" differently than the dictionary. Also, did you notice how he skimmed right over the "born of water and of Spirit" part? Why? Because the "witnesses" that he was citing (who commented on the passage) saw it as a reference to water baptism, and he preferred not to mention that.

Maybe He didn't elect you.

@@endtimesareuponus8930 My friend those of us know we are the elect, because we have the Holy Spirit in us. I will pray for you that one day you will repent of your sins and receive Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and savior.

Jesus Is the devil Repent accept jahovah and do good works

@@cwdor Wrong. Salvation is by grace alone through faith alone and not by good works, so no man may boast. Ephesians. You really need to read your Bible or else you're just ignorant.

​@@dougmaverick3287 and so Judas and Matthew 7

I agree, plus I add that he was the best theologian we had. This message is so clear and true , God destined all the world to be saved with only one condition, to believe in His Son as our mediator and accept this destination to go to heaven with Him.But He also gave us a free will and if we do not believe in Jesus and accept this destination we can reject it. He is not choosing, we are , to be or not to be destined for heaven..

Made willing in the day of his power!

@@angloaust1575 “THE NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME” ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE Question: “What is the name which is above every name?” Answer: Then Moses said to God, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?” And God said to Moses, “HaYAH Ashar HaYAH [“I AM WHO I AM.”] And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM {YAH} has sent me to you.’” Moreover, God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations” (Exodus 3:13-15). Halleluyah, Praise YAH! The LORD revealed His essential name “YAH,” and this name appears 48 times in the Bible. Question: “Doesn’t the LORD have many names?” Answer: And God spoke to Moses and said to him: “I the Lord. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as EL SHADDAI [God Almighty], but by My name Lord {YAH} I was not known to them (Exodus 6:2-3). The LORD only has one essential name YAH, and many descriptive names. Question: What does this mean to me? Answer: The prophet Isaiah makes this very clear: “Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For Yah, the Lord, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation’” (Isaiah 12:2 NKJV, as compared to the Hebrew). “YAH” means “I AM” with “Shua” meaning salvation, and thus YAHSHUA is the exclusive name of our salvation. Question: What name did Christ actually receive at His birth? Before we answer, it is important that we know one crucial fact, that the name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century. So the real question is, “What name did the angel reveal to Joseph?” Obviously the name of salvation according to the Prophet is “YAH,” and “shua” means salvation. Answer: In Matthew 1:21, “And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name YAHSHUA, for He will save His people from their sins.” “You shall call” is a command from God through the angel. The name YAHSHUA is revealed and commanded to be given to our Savior. Most do not know of the transformations, or the linguistic evolution, of the only name by which we must be saved: Jesus changed from Iesus due to the late addition of the letter “J” into the English alphabet in the 17th century. Jesus comes from Iesus, and Iesus is found in the 1611 KJV English version of the Bible. Iesus (Latin) comes from the Greek name Iesous, which is a transliteration of the Aramaic name Yeshua, Yeshua was a common name in the 1st century, and most people who lived in the land of Israel would have heard YAHSHUA as Yeshua. Question: Why is this one name YAHSHUA so important to our salvation? The Apostle Peter made this very clear and emphatic: “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). Question: How do we know that YAH was revealed to us? Answer: The Savior Himself told us when He said, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). “I AM” is YAH, as in Halleluyah, Praise YAH! The Apostle Paul, who was called Saul, on the Road to Damascus heard the name which is above every name, He testified of this to King Agrippa, “While thus occupied, as I journeyed to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, at midday, O King, along the road I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining around me and those who journeyed with me. And when we all had fallen to the ground, I heard a voice speaking to me and saying in the Hebrew language, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’ So I said, ‘Who are You, Lord?’ And He said, ‘I am YAHSHUA, whom you are persecuting’” (Acts 26:12-15). Question: Did the apostle Paul hear the name which is above every name? Answer: The apostle Paul wrote, “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him {YAH} the name which is above every name, that at the name of YAHSHUA every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that YAHSHUA the Christ is LORD, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:9-11). Every language is to know and confess this one name: YAHSHUA. Question: “What does it mean if we reject the one name given under heaven by which we must be saved?” Answer: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:16-18). To reject the Savior’s revealed name is to stand condemned. Halleluyah, Praise YAH, Praise YAHSHUA! And be saved! This יָה is “YAH” {I AM} in Hebrew. “But above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord YAHSHUA, giving thanks to God the Father through Him” (Colossians 3:14-17). Shalom in His name, YAHSHUA!

A Sproul sermon is always a profound learning experience.

“For by grace we are saved through faith - a believer must exercise faith which is a human choice.

Repentance and faith gifts of God

My opinion is that a person is a thing which has no life. Christ is the life. Christ is the only life as the light that shines in the hearts of all men. Jacob saw the face of God and confessed I am Jacob and was given the new name of Israel which means one who contends with God. It seems to me Jacob is a face of God that Jacob saw. Jacob is not God, God is Jacob. God is all. 🙏

@Juan Pablo Zepeda Mar It is Christ who saves on the basis of God's grace, not on the basis of whether someone has embraced Calvinism or not. Be very careful to make statements such as yours

Don't let yourself degenerated by predestination

@@leytonorientdeutscher9540 maybe you're one of the damned.

Don’t let Calvinist doctrine make you complacent to sin in your life. Sin can still harden a believer’s heart and lead you astray. We are called to live a holy life, and through God’s Spirit we can.

Can you help me with the app I can use for word searches. Thank you.

Amen, and Amen again, bukunwa osinowo! LORD Bless You!

1 Peter 1:2 He chose you💓💓💓 "God the Father knew you and chose you long ago, and his Spirit has made you holy. As a result, you have obeyed him and have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus Christ. May God give you more and more grace and peace."

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

@Vic Washington No, he didn't. All are his children. I am not sure how accurate the bible information or the translation is. All I know is, God is noncontradicting, unchanging, and loving. Furthermore, more Jesus cleared up / fulfilled more than what we need to live a joyfull life. Keep reading the Gospel, all will be clear through the Holy Spirit.. God bless you.

@@mitchellc4 the fact of the matter is you still need Jesus in ur Life..if u dont believe because the bible doesnt mention literally that Jesus is God (u cant read word by word ) but was said Jesus is the way the truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father unless through me.. I pray that both of us will be illuminated by the will and knowledge and wisdom of God.

I too couldn't believe the amazing Grace! That I being desperately wicked was destined for eternal glory. That while I was still dead in my sin God had already appointed a day in which my spirit would be made alive in Him and that day came to pass on 04/20/2011. I thank God for regenerating me.

I am really with you on that one. I look back at my past and think "why me" out of all people much greater than I. I am still bewildered. The Bible tells us that, "it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." Phillipians 2:13

@@helwing01 He has willed that everyone will come to Him in the end that's what the blood of Christ and the cross was for....not just for some like it seems Mr Sproul is saying.

LindyTN, the predestination was stated in the bible but may I ask you the predestination is for what purpose? Does God predestined some and ignored others for hell? Appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.

@Psalm 22 John 3:16; I believed in God’s Sovereignty and the predestination that is taught in the bible. But some taught God in His Sovereignty chose some to eternal life but the rest of mankind to condemnation which I totally disagreed… quote “there are people that will be saved and others that won’t”. Obviously , Christianity didn’t teach universalism in salvation but we are save by God’s grace through faith in Christ (Eph2:8)…Whether in the old or new testament everyone including Abraham is saved through faith in Rom4:3. However, God in His Sovereign in the OT chose Saul and David for His divine purpose and He didn’t predestine them to eternal life. . Quote “Because of predestination. God will have MErcy to whom he wants to have Mercy. God decides, and to all for His Glory!” I don’t agree to your notion because God’s mercy is extended to all who are willing to repent in faith though He remained Sovereign and this is not about predestination as you claimed. By the way, your thoughts are more inclined to Calvinism that taught God predestine some to be saved and others to damnation. However, that is a false teaching.

Somewhere in Romans it says something about if Christ be in you... and then it says something about the same spirit that raised Christ will raise those with Christ in them. Jesus said, The Father is in me and "I am" in you. God told Moses, Be still and know that "I am" the Lord thy God. Who is the Lord thy God? Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the life. Rev. 1-5 Jesus Christ is the faithful witness and the first begotten of the dead. Who is the dead? God said, I created all things, I created evil and I created good... Jacob sent his worldly possessions across the river before he wrestled with the angel in the land of Pineal. Jacob saw the face of God and confessed "I am" Jacob. Who is the face of God? Jacob is the face of God. Jacob is the body of which Christ is the faithful witness as the single life which is the life of the body and the light of the world. ~No one ascends to heaven except the one who fell from heaven. In order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven a man must first sacrifice himself. In order to ascend we must first be ascetic and then we will ascertain the truth. It's the idea of ourselves as being a thing of substance rather than an imagination is the idea we must sacrifice. Paul said, We exist in the mind of God where we live and have our being. Christ is our being, the rock of all ages. There is no other single being other than the one single indivisible being appearing as many separate individuals. Who is the one who appears to be you? It's the same as the one who appears to be I. 🙏

@@Romans1.28 “THE NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME” ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE Question: “What is the name which is above every name?” Answer: Then Moses said to God, “Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?” And God said to Moses, “HaYAH Ashar HaYAH [“I AM WHO I AM.”] And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM {YAH} has sent me to you.’” Moreover, God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations” (Exodus 3:13-15). Halleluyah, Praise YAH! The LORD revealed His essential name “YAH,” and this name appears 48 times in the Bible. Question: “Doesn’t the LORD have many names?” Answer: And God spoke to Moses and said to him: “I the Lord. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as EL SHADDAI [God Almighty], but by My name Lord {YAH} I was not known to them (Exodus 6:2-3). The LORD only has one essential name YAH, and many descriptive names. Question: What does this mean to me? Answer: The prophet Isaiah makes this very clear: “Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For Yah, the Lord, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation’” (Isaiah 12:2 NKJV, as compared to the Hebrew). “YAH” means “I AM” with “Shua” meaning salvation, and thus YAHSHUA is the exclusive name of our salvation. Question: What name did Christ actually receive at His birth? Before we answer, it is important that we know one crucial fact, that the name Jesus has only existed since the 17th century. So the real question is, “What name did the angel reveal to Joseph?” Obviously the name of salvation according to the Prophet is “YAH,” and “shua” means salvation. Answer: In Matthew 1:21, “And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name YAHSHUA, for He will save His people from their sins.” “You shall call” is a command from God through the angel. The name YAHSHUA is revealed and commanded to be given to our Savior. Most do not know of the transformations, or the linguistic evolution, of the only name by which we must be saved: Jesus changed from Iesus due to the late addition of the letter “J” into the English alphabet in the 17th century. Jesus comes from Iesus, and Iesus is found in the 1611 KJV English version of the Bible. Iesus (Latin) comes from the Greek name Iesous, which is a transliteration of the Aramaic name Yeshua, Yeshua was a common name in the 1st century, and most people who lived in the land of Israel would have heard YAHSHUA as Yeshua. Question: Why is this one name YAHSHUA so important to our salvation? The Apostle Peter made this very clear and emphatic: “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12). Question: How do we know that YAH was revealed to us? Answer: The Savior Himself told us when He said, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” (John 8:58). “I AM” is YAH, as in Halleluyah, Praise YAH! The Apostle Paul, who was called Saul, on the Road to Damascus heard the name which is above every name, He testified of this to King Agrippa, “While thus occupied, as I journeyed to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, at midday, O King, along the road I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining around me and those who journeyed with me. And when we all had fallen to the ground, I heard a voice speaking to me and saying in the Hebrew language, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.’ So I said, ‘Who are You, Lord?’ And He said, ‘I am YAHSHUA, whom you are persecuting’” (Acts 26:12-15). Question: Did the apostle Paul hear the name which is above every name? Answer: The apostle Paul wrote, “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him {YAH} the name which is above every name, that at the name of YAHSHUA every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that YAHSHUA the Christ is LORD, to the glory of God the Father” (Philippians 2:9-11). Every language is to know and confess this one name: YAHSHUA. Question: “What does it mean if we reject the one name given under heaven by which we must be saved?” Answer: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” (John 3:16-18). To reject the Savior’s revealed name is to stand condemned. Halleluyah, Praise YAH, Praise YAHSHUA! And be saved! This יָה is “YAH” {I AM} in Hebrew. “But above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord YAHSHUA, giving thanks to God the Father through Him” (Colossians 3:14-17). Shalom in His name, YAHSHUA!

Amen

A simple answer to your question is “Yes.” Jesus makes it clear that Judas was destined for that very purpose. Paul says: Does the clay say to the potter, “What are you making?” Does not the potter ha e the right to make some vessels for destruction and others for glory?

Who are you to talk back to god?

Glad someone else noticed it as well. I was reading through the comments to see if sir one else noticed that. Should have been 27 lol

he is teaching lies. Jesus said in john14:15 "if you love Me, you will keep My commandments" which proves that men HAVE THE CHOICE whether to accept OR NOT to accept God's offer of grace thru Jesus Christ to EVERY(all) man.

@@fleminglim9122 might I suggest a different reading? Try this: “if it’s a bird, then it will flythrough the air on feathered wings.” That Doesn’t mean that a decision to fly on feathered wings is what made it a bird, the fact that is is flying on feathered wings is the expected evidence that it is indeed a bird.

@@michaeljessicapayton maybe there is something missing with the analogy because i can not find it's connection with the doctrine of calvinism. can you elaborate more?

@@fleminglim9122 You are making an error of grammar. If I say that all those whose surname is Saunders are my relatives I am not making it an option to be my relative. All those who love the Lord will obey him. They don't obey him in order to live him but because they already do.

@@Phill0old please do read hebrews7:25, "...He is able to save to the uttermost THOSE WHO DRAW NEAR to God through Him..." do this verse tells us about "our freewill" in approaching to God? and God does not force us to come near Him although He advice us to come to Him. therefore proving that WE CAN CHOOSE whether to accept or not to accept God's offer of salvation for all mankind.

How is that insulting to God? All people have sinned and are destined for hell but he has selected a remnant to give to Jesus as a gift. It demonstrates His love, grace, and mercy to save some and justice to not save some. Those who aren't saved are simply not given faith or understanding. It's then their choice to reject God.

Ileana Wolcott - Not quite. We are not “to conform unto” him, as if by our own determined effort. But we are “TO BE conformed unto him,” as our destiny, ultimately, in the resurrection, and thereafter, by the power of God himself! But you are quite right in adding this important qualification to the idea of predestination.

gregormann7 yes, your right!

I stand corrected.

Wait, in his resurrection? In the life that he had here on earth before Jesus died. Not his resurrected life.

@@ileanawolcott1660 but our total conformity to Christ should be in our glorified bodies right?

Barry who puts that 'Call' in him? God.

​@@sandrafarley8798 Who is made reprobate and why would it be necessary or even possible?

You have to ask yourself, Dennis, do/have all repent? Do/have all believe? No. The word used is desire/wish. It is not God’s desire or wish that people perish, but come to, get to the point of, repentance. See previous verses. It is the reason for his patience. But nowhere does it say all will repent and none would perish. Lastly, use scripture to interpret scripture better than a standalone verse out of context.

Also 1 Timothy 2:4 (God) desires all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth. God is no respecter of persons. Whosoever believes in Christ will have eternal life - the choice is yours. No-one shoukd think he is superior to other creations of God. Salvation of mankind is predestined from the foundation of the world,, and not individuals selectively elected by an impartial God.

Read John 3 16 for God soul of the whole world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but would have eternal life also the Bible says that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved and when Jesus was crucified on the cross the thief right next to them asked him to remember him when he comes into paradise and Jesus replied to him this day Thou shalt be with me in Paradise salvation is based on a person's repentance and them accepting Jesus Christ as their lord and savior

Gods desire IS HIS WILL

Angela, l, too, was saddened by RC’s passing. He has served his generation so well. He had such a way of explaining tricky subject simply. MEC, Darwin.

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

No cursing , please...

Totally agree.

Exalt the creator abase the creature!

John 6:44: "44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."

And when I am lifted up, I WILL draw ALL men unto me

John 12:32-33: "32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. 33 This he said, signifying what death he should die."

So have I it gets worse every time I here it lol

Can 1 of you explanation @34.00 what on earth he'd talking about.. acts 72??????

Predestination is for Christians, not to become Christians. You were predestined for hell until you believed and were made a partaker of Christ. Now that you’re in Him, you’re predestined to things pertaining to the resurrection. Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, 👉🏻waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.👈🏻 Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Our body is redeemed at the resurrection.... Phi 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. That’s when adoption happens. That’s when we are conformed to the image of Christ which is the same thing as the redemption of our bodies in Rom 8:23.... Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Whom He did foreknow, are those whom God knew in the past. It’s knowing beforehand. Those who loved God whom God knew from beforehand, will also take part of the resurrection so that Jesus will be the firstborn from the dead among many brethren. Firstborn with regards to Jesus Is always about His resurrection. And when do we receive the inheritance?.... 1Pe 1:¶ 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, At the resurrection. Because you’re in Christ, you’re predestined to receive an inheritance. Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Before you were in Him, you had no hope. He changed your destination.... Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. If you were predestined to the resurrection from the foundation of the world then you were never destined to wrath. You’ve always had a destination that was never under wrath. You would have never been a child of wrath. Hope that sheds some light on some of the false premises of Calvinism. It’s an important topic. God bless.

@@evanu6579 what do you truely think is the difference in meaning between "You were predestined for hell before you believed and were made a partaker of Christ" and "You *thought* you were predestined for hell until you believed and were made a partaker of Christ" I ask that because from I can see, that difference seems to be completely unconsidered in your sharing of your views . Its a simple change but a very important one.

@@seagullcabbage I’m saying that the first one is true biblically which is what I expressed in my response. Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Your destination was God’s wrath as you were once a child of wrath. In Christ Jesus you received the atonement so that now you are made a partaker of Jesus and are now destined for the resurrection of life. Do you believe that you were always destined for the resurrection of life? Have you never had God’s wrath abiding on you?

@@evanu6579 I understand that you believe that these verses prove your point, but if i were to summarize all the points you've made that have been backed by bible verses .We wait groaning within ourselves for the redemption of our bodies. (agreed) .God predestined us unto being redeemed and confirmed to the image of Christ at the resurrection (future tense for us and also agreed) .Therefore, if we're in Christ then we're pre-destined to receive an inheritance (also agreed) "If you were predestined to the resurrection from the foundation of the world then you were never destined to wrath. You’ve always had a destination that was never under wrath. *You would have never been a child of wrath*" Why exactly can't you be a child of wrath, who is also pre-destined to be saved, redeemed, and brought into heaven? For example- Eph 1:11 "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being pre-destinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will" To assume that this verse is saying that us obtaining the inheritance and being predestinated happens at the same time is just that, only an assumption. The verse in itself does not say that, it only appears to say that when you put your own assumptions into it :)

@lary Snw Yes it is, showing a passage from the scriptures that states that we have an influence on what happens to us does not automatically erase the parts of the bible that say that God does predestine us to where we end up. How about instead of only looking at one side and throwing out the other you actually embrace the complexity and the tension of God's full teaching on this subject?

The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!

My first thought when hearing him say this was, “How does the first sentence not negate everything this series is about?” So we ARE responsible for believing? Very confusing...