All FFXIV Ultimate Raids Ranked from Worst to Best (Endwalker) 

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Progging DSR was like a discovery: every new phase was an exploration, you digging into a story piece by piece. DSR was also a new breakpoint of difficulty, we weren't confronted with such hard encounter since uh, E8S? Progging TOP was like a grind: "die and repeat, learn the patterns and permutations, execute, keep focused". It was a brief and faster experience for my group in comparison to DSR but we got a bad taste in our mouth after it was done...

Progging Twin and Nael in UCOB made me kind of sad as a tank. They have genuine room for tank skill expression on boss movement & positioning in a way that modern fights really just don't. The closest we get is the very minor stuff in, like, P3S or P11S. Please Yoship, give us back small boss hitboxes, I'm begging you

Did TEA as my first ultimate back in ShB and it'll be difficult for any of the other ults to take it's place as my favorite. Not the hardest ult, but thematically cool and the soundtrack...when I realized the bass drop during BJ/CC was timed to when Double Rocket Punch went out...*chef's kiss* Not to mention the transition to the final phase; they've tried to match that with DSR and TOP, but when you've grown up with things like Transformers and Voltron...nothing will ever beat that transition. I've all 17 weapons from it but if I had a group of my friends who wanted to run it, I'd probably dust off my alt and get a clear for it in there, but right now the priority is completing the 3 I haven't finished (UCoB, DSR, TOP) then maybe that becomes a thing

5:50 was very thoughtful and a lot of the not-ready-to-do-every-ultimate players thank you

I asked for this after your Pandemonium raid rankings. Thanks for delivering!

As someone who doesn't enjoy highend raiding its still interesting to see and here what the rest of the community thinks of them

Perfect Alexander hits different. Boss Model 10/10 Music 10/10 Mechanics 10/10 Finale 10/10 Post Clear Satisfaction - Glorious

personally, i really love DSR, its definitely my favourite fight that endwalker gave us and its more than likely my favourite ultimate overall. the spectacle was amazing, prog actually felt really nice for me, reclears were enjoyable with the friends i did them with. and when i get the opportunity its something i would help others with in a heartbeat. UCOB feels the same to a nice degree, a lot of my friends refer to that raid as the Cob Cave and at times we just banter while doing it in PF or as a group together. All of this from a player who has cleared those two raids 20+ times each and UWU 75 times. Ultimates in this game with the right people are an amazing experience that i recommend trying if your up to it and if your on the Light/Chaos DC's maybe i can see y'all in PF someday.

I'm glad I did UCOB about a year after it released and then TEA on release. Some really really just fun fights to do and morale was hardly an issue except on UCOB though it wasnt as much as the fight as everyone just burned out so we cut back on some hours and got the dub. Fate Calibration a and b were some really satisfying mechanics to pull off and the enrage is the coolest of the bunch imo. Havent done DSR or TOP and probably wont but the thematics and almost orchestra like presentation are some of the best in the game especially the music in Alexander and just the fight in general. Always gets me pumped

DSR is my comfort ultimate, so naturally I'm agreeing with logical Happy's preface to that ranking. I may just be chief masochist, but the mental exhaustion is part of the experience, within both DSR and TOP. However, DSR having such strong themes throughout it's entirety pushes it to another level for me. Best fight in the game imo. My entire opinion can be dismissed based on the fact that I want the next ultimate to be 7 or more actual phases excluding a checkpoint. Hurt me, Mr.Ozma.

I personally love Ucob a lot. And whenever I do have the joy of helping friends understand certain parts of it. I usually always wind to the same tiny bit of explanation.. "It's a lot of simple mechanics, happening at the same time" And so far, that's helped people get a better understanding of how to tackle the fight on a 'mental prog' kinda level

Man this video is really well timed for me lol. Heading into dsr for the first time and was reminiscing about the past ultimates and rewatching my clears. Wish me luck, I know I'll need it.

DSR for me is where ultimates peaked and most likely will peak for a long while in my opinion As grueling as it was to prog and clear i loved the mechanics,the flow of the fight and the way they used heavensward's story to create the second timeline.That was the coolest thing any fight in the game has ever done.DSR will probably remain my favorite fight in the game for a long time

oh god the tiny Asylum

Everything you said about DSR, I’d apply to the Omega protocol

When do you think you’ll do the Eden savage ranking?

Also to add for TEA there's some people that cleared without the "awoken" part just for the challenge to add on how people love the fight and want to challenge themselves more such like the deathcob ^^

I do agree with I wish they'd upscale some of the old ultimates to make them feel harder and just more enjoyable to play. level 70 really hurts some classes enjoyment to play. All classes clearable obviously but doesn't mean some classes feel like shit to play xD

I've only progged up to P2 of TEA and P3 Enrage of DSR, but I can say for certain that DSR is the ultimate I want to finish first.

As someone who has only ever done any UCOB (almost cleared though. Progging adds) this was a really really interesting and relevant listen. I had no idea how the community felt about UCOB so now I feel less bad when I ask friends to sub lol.

spent some time in all of them save DSR so far (have it unlocked, was too chicken to try it when fresh) and cob and tea are so quality i love them

Man teas just so much fun. Genuine a fun time all the way and the music slaps and gives that good nostalgia feel.

I know I should have Unending Coils be my first, but I just get this inexplicable draw from The Epic of Alexander, and I want it to be my first Ultimate should I dedicate time to doing that song and dance. I’m probably just a masochist frankly.

DSR was a lot of fun for the audience watching the WF race.

TEA was by far my most boring ultimate as a tank. I've redone UWU and UCOB on various roles, but TEA/DSR/TOP I've only done as tank. I think it'd mainly that p1 really has no variation. I could do the exact same thing every pull outside of the orientation the puddles spawns. P2 everyone else does nisi and you move as little as possible as the tank. So basically your buddy does nisi for you. P3 and beyond is fine. I just found it the least engaging on tank. I would like to go back and redo TEA on another role to see if I like it more but I already have more totems than I can use so would need to be extra bored.

i watch this video to decide which ultimated to do first, glad to say TEA is amazing. Going for DSR next

agree, TOP is very focus heavy.., almost too heavy (some more breathers in between would have been needed)

Everyone seems to love DSR.

I've never cleared or even set foot in ultimates, due to lack of confidence and social anxiety. But when I started FFXIV back in Shadowbringers, watching TEA streams made it my favorite of all of them, especially the Temporal Prison enrage. During my time in FFXIV I would at least like to clear TEA or any other Ultimate, really.

WARNING: I wrote about all my experiences and it became very long My group have done all but TOP and DSR and so far I'm enjoying TOP, I play tank and there are some mechs in each ultimate I hate and they usually involve tethers and orbs. From top to bottom so far I would probably put the TEA, TOP, UWU, UCOB mostly because of personal experience, can't speak for DSR yet and TOP in in progress but as it stands so far. The order I did the fights was UWU, TEA, UCOB, TOP which honestly felt alright on a tank, you lose a few things but it's not too bad I spent a few whipes in UWU getting gaslit into thinking I was messing up the orb soak when it was the healer standing too close with seering so I'd try do it too quick and snap shots would miss and the orb would get too close to the group so a new problem was born, though the seering position was resolved, that mechanic still makes me nervous. TEA is just easily my favourite fight in the whole game, I usually main PLD but did that on DRK because it was when the PLD rework was about to drop and didn't wanna have to relearn PLD while doing an ultimate but now I'm too used to DRK mit order on it, maybe go back and PLD it at some point. Overall just a fun fight and I love robots and amin a PLD so the big holy robot is VERY cool. TOP I used to rate lower but I am starting to feel it at this point, phase 1 is kinda suffering but I enjoy the fight so far, we're at P4 at the moment and we've been at it 4-6 weeks something like that so far, we have some P1 memes of people getting flame throwered or tether passing, and some failed DPS checks from people dropping too many GCDs but it's fun otherwise. UWU is what it is, I like it's simplicity, was a fun gateway ultimate, I do feel Titan was an oversight on human reactions ngl, we did employ a marker macro strat where we all have 1 to 8 and go number prio and click the macro if we got a gaol which was good in theory but sometimes someone would miss that they have one or a 4th person would thing they did, and inevitably one person figured it'd be easier to AM it, which stands as the only fight I've done with outer assistance. Also having done UWU on PLD before Bulwark was back, the Titan TBs were very rough to the point we employed cover for the second hit of the first titan TB so the WAR could kitchen sink the second one, then PLD 3rd and back to WAR because otherwise we found ourselves short on mits. UCOB feels like there's a bit of jank and due to things that happened at the time, I hated any time Nael was on the screen because learning the P2 quotes while others used extras did make me feel like I was holding the group backa bit, was nice to get them all by heart eventually though but it did make it feel bad to the point where I UCOB is my least favourite of the fights I've done, I hate Ad phase because Nael is back and 1 person in our group not paying attention most pulls resulted in too many ad phase whipes, even on our clear we weren't sure how it didn't count them getting hit by a twister because they rand clean through another person's twister and didn't pop it. And the damage buff on last phase is good in theory, until you lose too many people to exa flare dodges and have to go again.

I’m actually surprised that my ranking is nearly the same as yours, I just still think ucob is the best. It’s what you said about everyone jumping at the opportunity to go into the cob for me… it’s just plain good fun without much (if any) frustration in a good party. Your points on top are also real similar to my view but I like it enough that it’s close to tea for me!

TEA is the best because you get to play level 80 GNB

DSR is still the only ultimate I haven't finished. It's just so brutally exhausting and it taxed the hell out of my mental health during prog. My group decided to take a break from it, and come back to it eventually. Finished TOP pretty quickly though, ironically enough.

the only point i would disagree with you on is to save TOP/DSR until after someone new has cleared the others, as killing an ultimate in the expansion it was released in feels 10x better given how gear and level scaling works for the older ultis, assuming that SE doesn't randomly decide to unreal them in dawntrail

I've only done uwu and tea (did uwu as my first ultimate seeking out a group fro it, the static I joined for abyssos was a short bit into bjcc before shifting back to savage so I joined them for the rest of their TEA prog as I'd vaguely dabbled in it before with a static that very quickly fell apart to external reasons). UWU I think is great, ultima is really satisfying as a phase and until top, was the most time you spend fighting one thing in an ultimate so ultima feels a bit more of a boss, idk if thats a good way to convey an aspect I like about the fight. While its a bit simpler than the others, it does a VERY good job even right out the gate with garuda showing that ultimates play at a much faster pace than savage and you need to never rest on your laurels outside dedicated breather moments in some phase transitions. TEA however, is my favourite fight in the game, so well varied, so well paced, bjcc flows so smoothly and theres always something happening, alex prime's focus on a couple big flashy mechanics help build the fight well up towards reaching perfect and seeing the coolest mechanic conceptually in the game with perfect alex and fate cal, god its such a good fight I love it so much. While ucob doesnt really interest me, I have some friends who've done it speak negatively of it and the themeing doesnt appeal to me, I do wanna try the 90 ultimates at some point, but wouldnt be opposed to ucob or helping someone learn the ones I've done, if I was asked to join a group.

huh, it's nice to hear very different perspectives on these fights, my own opinions are a *little* different because of just how i feel about certain fights: 5. TOP i haven't cleared it yet so this doesn't count but i already don't like Phase 1 at *all* and it's gonna make the rest of prog infuriating i can already tell 4. UCOB I really didn't like this fight at all when I did it. The fight difficulty for me felt extremely disjointed. Twintania I'd basically fall asleep until i got Twistered. Nael felt like a *massive* jump in difficulty which felt extremely off, but the phase itself was fun. Bahamut is my biggest pain point. Trio style mechs are always easier than full uptime mechanics imo and Bahamut was full of them, more so than any other Ult, and it just made it feel a lot slower than it actually was. And Heavensfall in particular was one of the least fun mechs to prog *ever*. Adds I do agree was the best phase of the fight, though. Even now when we nuke them to the ground it's still a very satisfying phase to do correctly, so it gets points for that. And then Golden feels kinda lame in comparison to something like Primal Roulette or Trines. Sure it's a *massive* mit check, but mechanically it's just kinda eh since the only actual mech is Exaflares. Overall, what I enjoy from a fight is very drastically different from some people and UCOB just does not do it for me. 3. UWU Really the big thing that puts this fight over UCOB for me is that Ultima phase is a lot more involved overall, since there's only two Trio style mechanics. Ultimate Annihilation alone gives this fight a lot of props from me. The early phases are pretty much Savage Plus and I kinda like each of the phases to some extent except for *maybe* Ifrit, since overall he actually doesn't do all that much. Garuda is fine, Titan can be frustrating because of Gaols but otherwise fine. Ultima is where most of the enjoyment comes from, especially since Predation and Suppression are very short, and Suppression especially has enough going on to not be boring, while Predation happens in a flash. This fight in particular I wanna see scaled up to current level because I'm curious how different this one would feel if we actually had to do a lot of the mechs between Annihilation and Suppression that just get skipped. 2. DSR This was a very, very hard choice between this and TEA, but overall TEA kinda gets the edge because of a *few* pain points DSR has that sour the experience of what I think is otherwise a masterfully executed fight. Really those two main points are Adelphel/Grinnaux being a phase in general, and the first "real" phase of the fight (Thordan) being a Trio style phase. Typically those are saved for the last or second to last phases of fights and putting them pretty much at the beginning is not fun. It makes Thordan 1 a much more infuriating phase than it really is. Nidhogg is a perfect phase, IMO the best phase of any Ultimate so far with how tight it is on execution while happening so fast. Eyes and Rewind I don't mind as much because it's not super stressful to me after having done it a bunch, but passing tethers in Eyes can get finicky sometimes and that always sucks. Thordan 2 I don't mind nearly as much as Thordan 1 though Twisters can go die. Double Dragons is a close second to Nidhogg for one of my favorite phases, because listening to a fairly calm song like Dragonsong while doing all sorts of nonsense (made worse since I tanked this fight) gives it a level of stress I never felt with any of the previous Ultimates. Speaking of stress, Dragon-King Thordan. Jesus. Tanking that phase is just stress. Having party mit and self mit completely on point while making sure boss positioning is correct while also not dying to Exaflares just gets my heart racing more so than any other fight in this game. Its a fight that I love going back to, but getting through the door *and* having to do Thordan 1 *again* pulls it back from being a perfect fight for me. 1. TEA I wholeheartedly agree with TEA being #1 but for slightly different reasons. How people typically feel about going back and doing UCOB despite having all their weapons? That was me with TEA. For a good while I was a PF warrior looking for PA to clear parties to join and help people clear. I don't really have too much of a complaint with this fight at all. I guess the closest I got is that progging LL to LC was an absolute mess, because of Dolls and LL being very demanding in general for a first phase, but not too bad. BJCC is an extremely fun phase to do right, and an extremely funny phase to get wrong. Alex Prime's Trios don't bother me *nearly* as much as Bahamut's or Thordan's because they're still very involved, having you needing to know any possible number of things, but those things not being so numerous that it hurts, while also still being demanding enough to be challenging. Wormhole *especially* was like that. They just found a perfect sweetspot that don't make them feel insignificant, while also not being frustrating. And then Perfect Alex, while being pretty easy, is still one of the coolest phases in any Ultimate. The concept is awesome, the execution of said concept was on point, the music accompanies the entire experience *perfectly*, it just made for a super satisfying end to a fight regardless of it being easier than the rest of it. The music was very strong for all the other Ultimates, but TEA especially has this energy to it that just gets me pumped to do it, especially during Alex Prime and the transition going into Perfect. It never gets old.

DSR was the only ultimate that makes me shaking at last phase as healer, definitely number 1.

TOP was the only ult I skipped out on but the rest I worked on from release across all except caster role. TEA was the most fun and prog was well-paced for me. Fate Calibrations remain my most favorite mechanic in the game. UWU week 1 prog versus today is so different I feel so unmotivated to revisit the fight for how badly it’s aged. UCoB and DRU both were grueling but satisfying fights to complete first time around. Very exhausting to Reclear for their respective times. I still feel a couple trio phases in UCoB could’ve been condensed to shave some time, and that Nidhogg plus eyes could’ve been condensed into one fluid phase a la Nidhogg EX redux.

How bout a video on navigating ultimate raider egos when first cracking into it…almost harder than the actual fights. Been raiding with actual babies that all forgot where they came from

That comment on Garuda being awoken so late it barely matters hits even harder now...literally. I've had parties where we've had to hold DPS and she was awoken at

As someone who only recently cleared TOP and wrapped up what reclears Im doing for it, progging it on tank, I have to say... Fuck TOP. Absolutely number 5 on my personal list. Just a mentally exhausting fight that forgets tanks have uses outside of eating tank busters. The fight is so devoid of tank responsibilities, outside of being the primary adjuster for the 100 priority system swap mechanics that plague its design. Besides eating tank busters, theres legit only one tank specific mechanic in the first 5 phases of that fight, and its just the tether busters into shield lob bait in phase 2. Phase 3 and 4 you literally may as well not exist as a tank. One of you eats autos during Hello World. Thats the end of your usefulness for the next 3 and a half minutes. By comparison, P1 of TEA making the tanks separate and bring together Living Liquid and the hand is a more engaging tank experience out the gate than TOP is in its entirety. Let alone the beauty of BJ and CC's phase. I kind of get what they're going for with this ultimate, theres a certain sense of "equality" amongst the roles. Anyone can get any debuff on every mechanic, so everyone has to do their fair share of paying attention. Everyone LB's once in the final phase, they all get their moment. But by making everyone equal, they stripped tanks down to their bare essentials of responsibilities, until it just starts feeling like there's 6 DPS and 2 Healers for 80% of it :/

this is why im hoping next ultimate is the weapons from shadowbringers

DSr 4th is wild

Keep the older ultimate as is. Let it be the bridge between latest savage and newer ultimates. You don't want it to be updated to current like TOP and now everything is as stressful as TOP. Just cleared UWU after p8s, p12s. it's definitely less stressful than those savages when it was current. And the experience doing mechanics in those savages really helped a lot. Minus the super optimal rotation. As RDM main, You finally got the content you can shine. in P8s and P12s when it was current, 3 death = enrage. It was better to just use SMN. Looking at this, probably ucob next.

You put DSR amazingly, it’s just so exhausting. Cleared it once and I don’t think I’ll ever do it again. I had next to 0 fun in that fight. Came at a terrible time in my life. But it was just the worst experience I’ve had raiding in XIV

Dsr is the best cuz it’s the only one I cleared…. heh

ngl, 'DeathCOB' might be the funniest thing I've ever heard about Ultimates

I havent even unlocked any of them xD But I really would like to get into Extremes, Savages and Ultimates...

Oh, yea. I did all ultimates. My favourite was Ultimate Tidus, definitely. xD

The hard enrage of TEA is the coolest thing that ever happened in gaming.

Here's how much I enjoyed watching these fights on stream/video (because I'll never do them myself lol) 1) DSR 2) UCOB 3) TEA 4) TOP 5) UWU

Well, l think l will stick with pvp because l don't want to commit to a group on a fixed schedule. Feels like a job

If there is any omne ultimate people should do I recommend TEA as well. Id boldly say it is considered the best ultimate in thr community TOP and DSR were miserable, UWU (im opposite of Happy and say its not even savage plus, I've done savage fights that are harder) is a casual's ultimate which is perfect for them and UCOB was fun but felt long for what it was and had some really annoying mechanics that veered on boring

doll skip adoption would be my line in sand, something-has-to-change moment arguably ifrit dash skip is just as heartbreaking but given uwu is a design mess overall it doesn't hurt doll skip is fun (do try it!) but the moment it becomes PF standard something has broken in this game

Trying to prog DSR and TOP is a miserable mess, I have had so much enjoyable time when I got to prog TEA and Ucob, and god are they fun to reclear, but trying to do DSR/ToP Specifically have been just awful. Dont get me wrong, thematically TOP and DSR are beautiful fights but they are honestly so draining like you said in certain parts it could just feel like youve been in there for ages

My personal ranking of ultimates will be Ucob>Dsr>Tea>Top>Uwu

Ultimate should also be a visual celebration of the tier or expansion. I can't fathom why they chose to not include exdeath or kefka into TOP

tbh after UWU I think they might feel like they need to lay on the pain as hard as they can There's a better way I think. Have a checkpoint before the "twist" part of the ultimate (where it's brand new enemies/etc) and have the earlier phase mechanics reappear but not carry over

Honestly at this point. I just think of Ultimate Raids as just that.. their suppose to be hard, challenging, and grueling. Making people wipe so many times that to me. I root for the bosses rather then seeing who beats the ultimate first. In fact I love each raid for their own reasons. For UCoB. I enjoyed seeing Bahamaut's entrance when you get to his phase, when you get defeated and Phoenix revives you, and golden Bahamaut rules. For UWU I love the hidden awoken mechanics that you had to discover and heck I still don't know how you get them "awoken." But seeing Ultima Weapon's Ultimate form there. For EoA I enjoyed seeing Brute Justice, Cruise Chaser, and Alexander teaming up to fight you and of course that Perfect Alexander fight in which he manipulates fate. DSR...absolutely amazing! Despite being a bit long..which I love long grueling fights. Everything about this raid is perfect. Plus the what if timeline part is amazing. finally TOP. In which you fight Omega as he tries his best to research on what makes the Warrior of Light so powerful, to discovering Dynamis, and then that ending. So to me Ultimate Raids are amazingly hard and we need more of that.

I think the first phase of DSR, the one before the checkpoint is totally unnecessary and won't hurt the narratives.

I think using the term worst is the wrong term. The ultimates are all good, this is more your preference of rankings. If it’s the worst then it’s not a fight worth doing.

Sorry happy. Cant stand raid: shadow ledgers as a game, but Ill happily support the video with a comment and like! So here ya go mate

"drag on, heh heh heh"

My ranking: DSR TEA TOP UCOB UWU I have never done an ultimate so I ranked the alphabetically

Hardest ultimate was E8S, oops I mean DSR...

DSR was my first ultimate which was mostly ruined by the static i was in (different goals and mindsets making conflicting things happen a lot) DSR is probably my #1 currently, cleared UwU after and now progging TEA, after that re-prog DSR as a tank or UCOB depending what the ultimate static wants. TEA is currently my #2 since it's just fun, although phase 1 can drag on a bit, but it's not that long, so it's whatever, currently on Nisi pass 3. from just looking i think UCOB will be my #3, looks fun except fuck nael quotes to see what the mechanic is, that doesn't sound fun to me. UwU will be #4, but boy does that fight feel like an extreme fight till you finally reach Ultima, not even a savage fight, just extreme, not many variation, mostly static movement etc, just basically an Extreme, then Ultimate ups it to an actual ultimate (or atleast slightly above savage) and #5 will be ToP from the looks of it, i was hyped that we would be seeing Kefka and Exdeath, instead we just go to o11s, to o12sp1, to o12sp2, to o12sp2p2 into golden omega (?) then finally an actual new fight, but that's likely because Stormblood raids were my favorite as i started there. the mechanics doesn't look that great to me and with all the bugs early on (which hopefully they fixed all of them, especially the whole tank dying because he still got a debuff from the previous mechanic, easily solved, just annoying)

TEA>DSR>UCOB>TOP>UWU That's my final answer. Thought you are more based with ranks so feels dissapointed.

think TEA doll skip is already a reality

Ive started with UWU and managed to get over 30 kills. Yes, its the easiest one but really satisfying to watch just like TEA, my seconds Ultimate. But I prefer TEA bc I LOVE the time stop, the fate calibration and the transition to the final phase! Edit: I wont do DSR bc I dont like HW stuff, sorry.

I like door bosss.., when they are difficult (like with Savage EW P1 of 4S, 8S & 12S)

They definitely need to scale up the dps check for older ultimate.. I cleared TEA on PF with 4 MCH just for fun, and we did it

Genuinely surprised about DSR. I definitely agree about the door boss section, but it's over so fast you barely even notice it. It's such a great fight, and mechanics (mostly) feel great to do well, especially WOTH and DOTH. The last phase is INTENSE too. To me, DSR is easily a 9.5/10 fight, and no mechanic in this game feels better to execute than Cursed Meteors. Take my opinion with a grain of salt since I've only done DSR to completion and Omega to about 90%, I'm just surprised DSR is so low.

ucob is by far my least favourite. Still haven't done TOP, but I cleared cob once and never want to go back. I'd rather do uwu again

Putting DSR at 4th is INSANE. It’s the best fight this game has ever created. 0 stars for this video No but seriously, all I get from your video is you don’t like really hard fights calling it “exhaustion”. Which would make sense why you don’t like DSR and TOP.

I know everything is subjective but nearly all of your negatives about DSR I actually consider positives

DSR made me a batter player tbh.

I love DSR but I wish double dragons was just Nidhogg's final form instead (+ "Revenge of the Horde" was sorely missed). With the last HW unreal being given to Thordan it really feels like they left my boy in the gutter, when he is the last true enemy of the Dragonsong war.

1. Tea 2. DSR 3. Top progging now 4. Ucob 5. Uwu I actually really like how much I have to have my brain in for top so far. It is definitely the most flexing I’ve ever had to do but it definitely keeps me on my toes. I don’t like 4hr raid nights though. I did tea first.

1. DSR 2. TEA 3. TOP 4. UCoB 5. UWU All of your negatives about DSR and TOP are positives to me. You shouldn't be able to relax in an ultimate.

your ultimate opinions are whack but the discussion is good

1. DSR, always engaging, fairly difficult 2. TEA, easiest ult imo, best theme 3. TOP, hardest ult, imo, intense from p5 to finish 4. UWU, great spectacle, p4 still needs good coordination to the end 5. UCOB, most annoying mechs, still love the fight (make quotes voice acted kthxbye)

Only done 3. Of the three I have done: 1. UCoB is top due to mechanics and general feeling during the fight. Answers is a very anxious song. UCoB feels like it is there to pu ish you and that it seriously dislikes you. 2. TEA: This fight is so joyful. So upbeat that you dont come away from this fight with bad vibes. Unlike UCoB, each phase's music is more positive and gives you energy to even do the fight. This Ultimate, instead of save the world, feels like: come play with some Robots. Its the equivalent of playing with Titania. 3. UwU is ok. It's a great starter ultimate and introduces you to new ideas. I enjoyed farming it but I do not want to return. Did it as a healer cuz im lazy and didnt wanna learn dps moves which are not fun. All three of these have beautiful weapons. I haven't done DSR or TOP. TOP frightens me. I feel like I will not enjoy progging it and that my time can easily be wasted doing it. It also doesn't help that Omega was one of the weakest raid and story concepts introduced into Stormblood. Very boring with little story and exhausting to see more Robots. if I clear it, I plan to clear it twice and stop. DSR I am eager to do. When I have more freetime I will try and work on it. I want to experience this unique story experience at least 3 times. For this one I will be pacing myself. Looking forward to DSR a ton. It's a crying shame that both sets of weapons are impossibly hideous. The Omega weapons at least have that crazy effect on top of the ugly models. So the Omega ones look like true trophies. The DSR ones are horrible. Absolutely awful. Terrible color, questionable models, vomit glow. just bad. So the EW ultis are only worth doing for the experience and not the weapons like the previous three.

If only this content actually existed. That would be nice.

1) TEA 2) DSR 3) TOP 4) UWU 5) not doing ultimates at all 6) UCOB Level 70 ultimates are boring af to do on dps because you have no rotation, and I really resent the overall attitude of people who do COB where they don't seem to take doing mechanics well or consistently seriously and just laugh off dying to twisters or Nael quotes for hours. Every trio that's in COB was done better in DSR. TEA, TOP and DSR demand technical proficiency and concentration from everyone to get thru so I would much rather go back and do them (and actually have fun pressing my buttons and trying to figure out how to optimize things) than go do an ultimate where half the party can die and we're still progging the phase b/c it's technically recoverable.

My personal rankings: 1. DSR 2. UWU 3. UCOB 4. TEA 5. TOP

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Am I the only who thinks TEA is extremly boring because of how scripted it is? DSR and TOP have trained my brain to constantly be ready to adjust for RNG. In TEA every single clear feels the same. Also DSR and TOP are much more difficult even considering old dps checks. TEA UCOB and UWU feel like a savage fight thats longer. Honestly Id even say P12S is harder than those.

Naw TEA put me off ultimates permanently. From bs mechanics to toxic group.

It's funny how garbage and alien Happy's opinions are about... well... almost everything. The best Ultimate, objectivelly the most well made and thought out ultimate, being one of the worst.... same with FF9 being one of the worst for him too. Dude is funny, love his news content and he can't see his cringe even if it hits him in the face, but damn, opinions wise is almost like seeing a lunatic talk.

Downvote because of raid. Sorry!

Been playing for 10 years and I'm still too scared to even do Extremes, let alone an Ultimate 🥹

Tea is the best because no one likes untargettable mechs, and almost all of tea's most fun mechanics are uptime mechanics. Dragonsong can go straight to hell.