All Gods talk about Zagreus - Hades 2 

it slightly annoys me that Artemis, and the other gods don't acknowledge that at one point it was so he could leave and not deceive them, there is a turning point where he does but feels a bit unfair

The most delicious soup is bound to have some zing to it

Speaking of which, does anyone know why Chaos looks like Meg with a lab coat now?

@@CRSB00Right?! Everybody harping about how much more feminine and human they look and here I am just “…Why is Chaos cosplaying as Meg?” 😅😂

​@@MV96_To be honest he looks so much cooler compared to before

@@jacopom.7477ong he does

Classic Aphrodite tbh.

I mean honestly knowing that somebody is willingly ignoring you sucks...

'Dite's in a mood.

​@@origamipein18Ok, but when ISN'T she?

@@General_C Good point.

Ignoring Aphrodite *is* putting yourself in grave immortal peril.

@@echodoctor5679 It’s funny because it’s true.😅

i mean... Aphrodite. That kind of behaviour is perfectly in line with her depictions in mythology.

The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about

@@echodoctor5679the fact she didn’t just try to kill him for that is the greatest sign of how much Aphrodite loves her little nephew

and "little hades" passing down to mel as a nickname

She also starts referring to Mel as 'Flower' once you find her enough. Grandma loves her garden

​@@ashec.6824 seems like they're implying she loves her garden enough to think of her plants as her children. That seems in character and makes total sense

I could definitely see a formally neglected Zagreus soaking up the attention and nagging from his grandmother lol.

@@ashec.6824 She is the goddess of harvest after all

"shame you aren't as cool as him" rippp

⁠@@kitnal4143chaos 😂

Everyone loves Zagreus!

Chaos said that Zagreus was amusing. Mel is a lot more serious than Zag, so it’s only natural that they wouldn’t find her to be as amusing as him.

Another expectation to try to live up to LOL

maybe they should make a prequel to this game?

​@@beets_and_ricewe heard alot about her brother, I wonder what he did that got everyone to talk about him fondly. Even Chaos themselves seems to be fond of him

Уже есть игра, где он главный герой

​@liluru159 that's the joke.

Ikr.

Haha meanwhile Axe is only one that works.

"Did you knew your brother had no recovery endlag after his dash, he was really good at using the invincibility frames"

😂 mannnnn hits right in the feels

@@bazzjedimaster PREAAAACH. Still loving this game though

​@@lamie0237Honestly idc if we don't get multiple dashes or deflections during a dash, those both were admittedly OP, I just want the old dash back. Fuck this sprinting mechanic.

It feel like 2nd child vibe lmao

​@@valhatan3907She is, 2 out of 3

​who is the 3rd

Macaria. She is goddess of blessed death. Daughter Hades and Persephone, sister Zagreus and Melinoe. She was not yet born at the time of the Hades 2.

@@kasumi_D cool

The game is early access, it’s not actually fully finished. My guess is when it is we’ll have like what we did before where u make a bit of story progress after beating the boss each time. And once you truly finish the game we’ll most likely see Zag again

Imagine if we found him tortured by chronos and he somehow becomes a boss battle with worse moves than he had in Hades due to the long time starved and tortured... That would be a quick way to make everyone hate Chronos real fast 💀

Spoilers. Zagreus and the rest of the other gods like nyx, thanatos, megaera, and dusa e.t.c are all frozen in some cube like thing by Chronos

He'll be back. Hopefully, in grand tradition, as the super boss who's going to punch me in the teeth repeatedly.

According to an interview with Supergiant, Zag will be appearing in the final game, though at present he is not in Early Access.

He gave mel a seed once

Chaos: How much do you know about multiverse theory, kiddo?

he is! frozen in time lol

It's even crazy that Chaos misses him. Considering they try to stay chaotic neutral, if you will, on all matters until Nyx got involved.

So does aphrodite

Pretty sure the developers said he will be in the game later or something

I mean, he did let demeter see her child once more.

Though at the same time, she was worried that it was HER who offended HIM and possibly felt hurt about that. That's a luxury mortals (and many other gods) can only vaguely dream off. Yeah, Zag has some sway in the family and almost seems to be that charismatic life of the party and mediator of the bunch,

@@Aurilion44 Knowing what he did on the first game? They definitely see him in a very positive light, and probably thinks that if he is the one avoiding you, you must have fucked up. So it must have been a relief to most of them that zagreus was only trapped instead of not contacting any of them

I mean, Zagreus is likely pretty used to the wrath of the gods if having to pick only one is anything to go by.

I had to do a double-take with that one.

Grandma/pa with dementia: Granddaughter, did I ever tell you how cool your older brother is? He got all the cool genes in the family! Best grandchild ever. No competition. Loved baking him cookies! Oh, what, yeah, here take these expired off brand peppermint candies. Say hi to your brother when you get home!

Might potentially fill a similar role to Thanatos, in that he shows up now and then during the odd run to "Test your abilities" but more or less helps out for a room albeit with a challenge of beating more enemies then him. If you do well, you get a reward. If not? Well, fun sibling bonding moment

​@@joshrobins130Nah, Nemesis fills that role.

​@@Zero-ip6iband heracles

My theory is that he ends up being one of the summons. Giving his sister Mel one of the plushies he loved to collect so much, the excuse being it was a gift he was saving for her first birthday.

Some people are speculating co-op might come to the game, maybe you can play as him as player two?

Felt like they adapt according to those who contacts them, Chaos chaotic abomination form took form because Zagreus seeking freedom from his Father's domain while Chaos neat orderly form took form because Melinoe seeking order for her Father's domain.

@@hartantoanggoro Interesting theory for sure

​@@hartantoanggoroor this lad just put on a suit because fuck chronos, you think you are the only one who control the time? I got DRIP

From the looks of it, it slayed its old design too

@@akea- LMFAO I MEAN YOU GOT A POINT

I mean yeah even in the first game Hermes really seems to enjoy chatting with Zagreus each time they meet

Mel inherited more of Hades' demeanor while Zag got more of Persephone's. Gonna take more time for Mel to stop being so severe, especially with the family situation.

Would it be awesome if Zag can come with Mel to kill Chronos

someone should try to suggest that to them

multiplayer update?????

I'm thinking like in Dishonoured 2, by the time we get to Chronos enough times, Zagreus features as a secret character. Maybe a companion summon or a call. I'd love to see how powerful he's become between games (current incarceration aside).

@@Aurora-313 oh I understood what you mean, personally I am wishing for both that and (eventually) Co-op multiplayer. They have said they wouldn't, but if both characters end up roaming in the story there isn't a reason why *not* lol

from the Hades "minigame" you can see that zagreus tried to throw a cast but was frozen mid animation, shame really, chronos would have been cooked

@@ayaya- That might just be a placeholder for now! They used his old sprite from the original game, but the portrait Mel has shows him with an updated look, so I'm holding out hope that they're going to give him more of a role in future updates.

@@ayaya- Hades mini game?

@@ayaya-Yeah Chronos would’ve been in a world of hurt

​@@ayaya- skill issue, he should have dashed instead of throwing cast

Honestly, for a the Aphrodite, vain, spiteful, emotional, avarice filled goddess, worrying that she was the one who offended him (i.e. her fault) instead of taking it as offense and blaming him? That is absolutely titanic show of how much she likes and respects him. Zag must have became a straight up enitre family's mediator while being immensely respected

He has Hermes shrines now. Definitely more involved in this game than the last.

He’s also looking to be the fastest to get attached to Melinoe. Aside from Aphrodite, the returning gods oddly seemed to have matured a smidge since the last game, though feel a little bad for our goddess that most of her family is comparing to her older sibling from the start

​@@gameb9oythe gods are probably matured because an actual threat returned. Before they were just chilling, occasionally helping a kid kill his dad so that the kid could see his mom.

@@gameb9oy It feels like zagreus made quite an impact with the rest of the family, as the gods seem to have start taking things more seriously. Well, that and an actual threat returned.

My man Zag was just that wholesome. Hope he's okay

i miss zag

Quite frankly, I fear Chronos has cut off his eyes and ears, fed him to his weapons (Like Zagreus fed titan blood to his weapons) and the taught him how to fight by touch and smell, leading to a boss fight with a decayed Zagreus who can't see you nor hear you, and with worse move set than in the original out of exhaustion and agony. That would be a real quick way to make everyone despise Chronos, and with how much everyone is like: "THEY WILL BE FINE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT" as much as I don't think it will go to such lengths, I really don't think he'll be ok. And yes, my mind tends to go to the worst possible scenario, so I really hope I am wrong💀

@@georgelongcoal1117what the fuck man

​@@georgelongcoal1117 Oh wow, thats a really creative way to f up my boy zagreus, i hope your wrong tho

@@mr.teobruh977 Honestly same. My mind is too creative for my own good and I hope they won't go as far💀

@@georgelongcoal1117 I like this idea so much, I hope that it's true and not at the same time because I don't want my boy go through stuff like that, but man saving him and killing Chronos would be much more satisfying

😂

The form isnt really that, especially since chaos face is very close to nyx´s face in the first game, mostly because it seems that zagreus succeded in reuniting the two and chaos became closer to the family as a whole. Though, it does makes sense of zagreus being way more chaotic and thus more interesting to chaos, since melinoe is more akin to hades in the way she handles things. Which makes his remark of her not being interesting more of a "Gods, please do something without planning it first please."

@@clairelili873honestly mood from chaos if that’s the case ngl

most likely because chronos probably has Nyx and chaos also cares for zag even if he does nt know how to express it

i think its more about some kind of cycle of rebirth and their constant chaotic tranformation, like we see them with their former skull and a their next body growing already

I think they're meant to look androgynous.

IIRC, it's Zag's influence. He convinced... "it" I guess to get closer to its offsprings and try to understand others a bit more hence them being more "mortal" like

I’m assuming in this game it’s meant to resemble clouds, since that’s his domain.

I know right?! It's great that Mel and her have a great familial relationship but I'm sure she had a great one with Zag as well, considering how much she opened up to him and cared. Hopefully she talks of him in a later update, or when the full game releases and he's saved at least.

might be because its early access. I can assure you that there are no comments from Artemis about Zagreus as I've checked the dialogue from files. These are the only ones I can find that talk about Zagreus

There's only 1 but I'm sure there will be more as Artemis and Zag became pretty close. I mean, she literally says she feels like she can open up with him.

yup, there's a voice line how others are imprisoned, but zagreus, he had to break.

Nah it wouldn’t make sense chronos power is time.

​@@yeeywMaybe infect him with the same strain that mutated cerberus?