When they were first mentioned, I thought the Knights of Ren were the Anti-Jedi. I don't mean they're the Sith. I mean they're like the Jedi Order but more of perfectionism and more about order without betrayal and the rule of only two: The Master and The Apprentice. Edit: I forgot to mention how instead they're not much a villain group as we expected. Totally absent from The Last Jedi.
@@masterskywalker3734 Doesn't matter. These characters will be expanded upon as well, but there movie appearances, the way people will remember them will be as wasted potential. No matter what SW does for Boba Fett, people will always remember his embarassing death over everything.
Рыжий Хвост so what? You want this trend to continue? If Disney and LucasFilm was really smart they would fix George’s flaws and instead make this characters not-wasted. HMMMMMM. I just 200 iqued you kid. Think out of the box
@Raven Link it's funny that people love boba Fett a guy who didJack squat and died pathetic but people hate jango Fett a guy who went out like a badass and killed a Jedi....I don't understand fans..... Same thing with the knights of Ren and Captain phasma
@@Joseph-rh7yu That's exactly what happened lol. People were hoping so much to see them in the first 2 episodes that they started forgetting about them
@@farahahmedkarim377 nah he said "COOL" no matter what you say kid. go have your smart moment on the internet somewhere else. I bet you are a blast at parties 🥳
Bruno Oh yes, I know about that, I was talking about the concept art from before. It would have been good to see them with sabers but it just seems like it was an abandoned aspect. But yes you’re correct on that. It’s agreeable though that it seemed like a waste of time and resource to water down such characters with high potential. I guess that’s what I meant. (By past I also meant concepts and development)
What fans wanted: badasses with lightsabers. What we ended up being given: a bunch of space thugs with axes, scythes and guns. God these guys are so wasted. At least Phasma actually had lines whereas these guys don't say shit
@@brunocav8223 In "The Last Jedi" didn't Luke say Kylo took a few of his students with him? I thought that's what I heard him say. Obviously that comic book you speak of contradicts Rian Johnsons movie.
@@88detour He did. Ben took Voe, a Quarren Jedi and a bald Jedi (I forgot their names) to an Old Jedi Temple. They were the only survivors of Luke's Jedi Order. However Ben killed Voe and the Quarren and Ren (not Kylo Ren, just Ren) killed the bald Jedi
Remember that one scene where Rey and her friends fought with the Knights of Ren, showing us how powerful, skilled, and terrifying they are? Or those other scenes where we get a little glimpse of their personalities and their relationship with Kylo Ren? Yeah, that was a nice parallel reality
In Duel of the Fates, Rey uses force lightning on one of them after Poe gets injured, and it actually makes sense and still is a shocking dark side moment instead of a cheap way to tie Rey to Palpatine
It’s like when you form a club with your mates when you’re a kid and give yourself a cool name, a secret password, some pen knives and hold meetings in your Dads shed, but you don’t actually do anything more than that.
The Knights of Ren are another classic example of how JJ is really good at setting up interesting looking story lines and exceptionally bad at making them actually interesting.
Who was the genius who thought "Let's bring back the Knights of Ren!" and than thought "And do absolutelty nothing with them!"? The Sequels... what a dumbster fire.
It's only 2 and 1/2 minutes long.... Awesome why are you surprised Disney the exact same thing with Captain phasma.... Also before Disney own Star wars George Lucas did the exact same thing with boba Fett....a guy who looks cool and only had a handful of screen time and then got killed off pathetically.... It's like this he doesn't want to fix his mistake they just want to pile it on and on and on
Jarrod Edson To the credit of Lucas, Boba Fett at least did something that actually affected the story by finding the Falcon. Phasma and the Knights of Ren... yeah nothing
@@jarrodedson5441 Boba Fett didn't die, in canon he actually escaped the sarlacc pit, fell in again, escaped again and then did some more bounty hunting
0:50-1:00 They really filmed 10 seconds of dudes just standing on a fucking rock with random music playing in the backround. Unintentionally the funniest thing Ive seen all week.
I didn’t really mind Phasma because it painted her as a coward. Phasma has this shiny armor, showing she is the best, and a unique commander. Everything points to Phasma being a strong and terrifying character. But the truth is that she’s weak, willing to betray the First Order in order to survive. That shiny armor is nothing but a facade.
things The Knights of Ren could have been: - the last students of Luke who chose the dark side - A mandalorian death squat - the final generation of Kamino clones that have been modified - the new order's inquisitors after the fall of the empire - force sensitive storm troopers what they ended up being - a bunch of guys that stand around
They could have been even Kylo's own disciples made in deliberate mockery of the New Jedi Order Kylo helped to massacre. Most importantly, they could be, well, actual plot-important characters whose interactions with Kylo could flesh him out more. I mean, they were Kylo's only friends for Force-knows how many years and they still are completely devoid from any meaningful interaction with him.
@@studioe1571 you know what I find funny? Here it is in 2020 and when I play star wars battlefront 2 the PT & OT maps always have people playing them, but I have yet to find a single lobby of players playing the sequel maps.
@@Silencedlemon Lmao, bullshit. Jakku, Crait, and Ajan Kloss are super popular. The only one I hardly see played is Takodana, and even then I still get put on it from time to time.
Because whenever some boomer starts spreading lame things about sequels, he never mentiones that THE EXACT SAME BLOODY THING HAS BEEN THERE IN PREVIOUS 2 TRILOGIES
Remember when people were freaking out over the Knights of Ren before The Force Awakens even came out? Took 3 movies to even see them and were never explained
The Knights of Ren had so much potential as a new dark order: they could’ve been an evil reflection of the Jedi in a different way than the Sith. An order of warriors with a twisted code of honor and knighthood, but still under the mark of the Dark Side. Instead they just made them some c-list marauders who are basically employed by Sidious as a lesser version of the Inquisitors.
After the Force Awakens the Knights were a new group Kylo Ren founded to replace both the Jedi and Sith but no Disney combined them with the original trilogy making the look trash
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Darth Sidious : - Did you ever heard the tragedy of the Knights of Ren?
@Pablo PerazaA story no director of the sequels would tell you. -Palpatine turns towards Anakin Maybe if you'll find out if you buy the added material.
I watched these scenes at 0.25 speed and I found that when Ben was killing them, I counted that he killed Trudgen twice, once by cutting the back of his head and again by stabbing him through the chest, that just goes to show how poor choreography the sequels have
@@ericholladay2900 yeah but the prequels were absolutely wasted potential because of how poor the acting, directing and screenwriting was. You cannot honestly say that the prequels would not have been muuuuuch better if they were produced properly.
I watched Lord of the rings for the first time months after the rise of Skywalker came out. And the nazgul were everything I wanted the knights of ren to be. A constant threat.
Debatable. They got taken off the board halfway through Fellowship of The Ring. They show up in the last half hour of Two Towers. And only one had any substantial presence in Return of the King.
The Screenslaver Nah, they’re a group of slightly force-sensitive warriors who emerged post-ROTJ. They “joined” Ben after he killed their former leader, the original Ren.
I went through shot for shot of that scene and I think that there is a very slight possibility that between 1 and 3 of the knights could’ve lived. Trugden, Ushar, and Cardo definitely died. It looked like Vicrul was downed but the stab wound was more in his shoulder than his chest, still hard to tell, could’ve been his heart. I didn’t see any clear shots of Kuruk’s body, but with Ben’s opening slash jump he cuts somebody across their broadside, could’ve been Kursk but it looked more like Cardo, unclear what happened to him. And Aplek was just thrown off that ledge, but even without his axe to catch the ledge he is still force sensitive and it isn’t super clear the implications of falling down that crevice, and seeing as Ben was thrown down there and survived, i bet aplek could’ve as well. The point is probably mute and I doubt we’ll ever see them post TROS, but if they really wanted to, they could follow a story following at least Aplek if not the others post Exegol if Lucasfilm really wanted to. Edit: we see Kuruk’s limp body in the shot where he jumps over and kills Cardo, so he’s likely dead, but I didn’t see any obvious slash marks on his body. Vicrul’s body falls pretty limp it looks, but he kind of bounces off the ground so it’s possible he was just down but not dead. Probably just wishful thinking but one can hope :)
I was thinking this too. Trudgen got cut up pretty good if I remember, but Cardo was barely cut. Also one thing, it was Ushar who got stabbed at the end after Kylo jumped.
I’m sure he could have handled it if he directed Last Jedi and not just Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker but you know how Star Wars fans are right now. Completely unsatisfied with anything that isn’t Clone Wars or Mandalorian.
@Salmon Same could be said for a number of Star Wars groups with cool designs but little to no story involvement, I'm pretty sure they were set for future material.
@@undulycriticalobserver2510 It was transferred over by Rey due to the whole dyad thing. Still I don't know why he thought getting rid of his crossgaurd lightsaber was a good idea. He should have kept it.
@@seasons1745 force bonds were a thing in star wars way before rey. Ahsoka is also a Mary sue and everyone loves her. The issue with rey is they just didnt give her a good story, simple as that.
@@luccirobbins6675 yees. the one who carries the big blade on his shoulder is Trudgen. the one withe small scythe is Vicrul. the one with the axe is Applek. the one with the sniper rifle is Kuruk. the one with the arm canon is Cardo and the last with the vibroclub is Ushar
Kuroiishi Productions nice! I usually know my Star Wars lore but while watching The Last Jedi, I forgot all about the Knights Of Ren, then they showed up in this movie and I was like, “Oh yeah.”
When they’re standing on that rock on Pasaana, with the camera circling around them, and their theme plays, it’s so damn menacing. I wish they weren’t wasted.
Out of everything within the sequel trilogy I was most excited to see more of The Knights of Ren. I’m still super pissed off that Rian Johnson never used them, the potential there would have been incredible!
The part where the stormtroopers are just casually talking about the knights of ren shows how much the first order isn’t threatening. No one in the empire said “cool its vader”. Everyone was silent and stood at attention whenever Vader entered. How are you supposed to be an evil, tyrannical force when not even your subordinates fear you
The first order/final order was nothing like the Empire. The Imperials had structure and order. That's why they survived for such a long time. In the First Order, even though they had better trained soldiers, you could tell there was a massive power struggle and they had no clear military direction. Their egos got the best of them in the end.
A.D.D Entertainment The Praetorian Guards would win. They seem to be more skilled and better trained than the Knights. Plus their armor is more durable than the clothes the Knights wear which look like common badass street wear (at least in the Star Wars universe). Also their weapons seem to be lightsaber like unlike the Knights weapons which appear to be normal badass weapons. Plus they have more adrenaline than the Knights because their armor is designed (much like Darth Vader’s suit) to keep them in a constant state of pain.
Director: Congratulations! You've been selected to be a Knight of Ren in Rise of Skywalker, one of the fiercest warriors in the galaxy. Actor: That's fantastic! When do I get the script? Director: You don't really need one....
Why are the Knights of Ren armed with knives and axes? And not with blasters or a device that could deflect lightsabers? They really put their foot in their mouth when they were going against kylo Ren. They should have already knew what he was capable of!
@@idark9492 they didn't break because they were made out of metal! What weapons like that are going to do any good if you're going against a person that could force choke you to death or have a lightsaber that could cut through you like butter?
Why is no one pointing out how the Knights Of Ren just out of nowhere decides to fight Kylo Ren??? He was literally looking for Rey... then he got abandoned on the Death Star, only to come back thanks to a stranded Tie Fighter, and out of nowhere the Knights Of Ren just wants to kill Kylo for no reason?? Did anyone of the First Order even know that Kylo had changed sides? This just makes no sense..
I think Palpatine sensed that Kylo turned to the light side because he tells general pryde, "The princess of alderaan has disrupted my plan" likely referring to how Leia redeemed Ben. He probably then ordered the Knights to kill Ben.
@@dill1332 But even that doesn't make sense, cuz from what I heard that the knights of ren are only loyal to ren no matter what, I read it up somewhere, and I think STAR WARS THEORY guy mentioned that too, so idk still confuse at this
@@thatoneshortboi I have to admit that Boba didn't do a whole lot in the movies but at least he was memorable and doesn't need two stormtroopers to tell you who he is.
Not SCPBrix he wasn’t memorable. He had 3 lines in the whole trilogy. And not to mention he was only popular because kids loved the toy that was being marketed after empire strikes back. The kids had to say he was cool. The troopers had to say the knights were cool
2:20 Kylo: "think i'll just take a breather and offer them up my entire back section to aim at" Knights of Ren: "better hit the only part of his body guarded by this lightsaber"
Knights of Ren: “Oh yeah! We so bad! We gonna kill your punk ass, Kylo!” *Kylo gets weapon* Knights of Ren: “Oh no, a lightsaber! Our one weakness!” ..... How did these guys wipe out Luke’s school of Jedi again?
BagelBramble Gee, I dunno, a vision in Force Awakens showing them killing Jedi? Or rather, Kylo shanking one from behind while they stood around him. But I kinda got the impression they were the helping. But y’know what? You’re right, I’m giving them too much credit, and I honestly don’t care enough to ask “So what the fuck did the Knights of a Ren contribute?” or “So who killed Luke’s students?”
I'll be absolutely honest - I didn't even know they were in this film. I only took notice right at the very end, but just assumed they were some royal guard of the emperor. It took me a good three days before I found out they were the Knights of Ren. It took me today to realise they actually appeared in more than just the one fight scene.
0:47 so lemme get this straight, these guys parked their ship here, walked down to a bunch of trenches and just stood there because...the Knights Of Ren are cinematic?! If they wanted a better view they coulda just stayed where they landed the ship lol
@@kingoffriesthekingwillrise1701 I blame JJ Abrams. He tried to make a lazy remake of the Original Trilogy and it made the whole thing a bad pointless nostalgia fanfic
JJ Abrams: so I came up with these guys called The Knights of Ren. Kathleen Kennedy: Sounds great, what do they do? JJ Abrams: They’re going to be in the movies! Kathleen Kennedy: wow wow wow wow….wow. Sounds great.
Boba yes, but General Grievous was practically the main villain for the first half of Revenge Of The Sith. He got killed halfway through because it was Vader’s turn.
@@luccirobbins6675 yes but nevertheless he was introduced in the Same movie in which he was killed and had only 2 longer scenes. But you are right , boba had Less
Man godzilla havin little screen time made the film intriguing like cloverfield, then had an absolute BADASS final battle. Then in the sequel he got a lot more screen time.
Knights of Ren came too late to save this doomed trilogy. After watching Luke Skywalker in all his glory in Mandolarian, this trilogy should be shot of canon with a cannon.
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