Thanks for making these Dan. I feel like I’m having an in-depth conversation about my favorite movies with someone who’s as passionate as I am about cinema and the impact they can have on you. You’re great at expressing your thoughts and always provide fun facts that even I was unaware of
I rewatched the departed a few weeks ago, love that movie-nothing will compare to the first time I saw it though. The shock factor was such a huge part of how much I enjoyed it the first time
original is superior. this versions ending is too hollywood, wish people would appreciate world cinema more. might click that there are far superior films elsewhere.
@@beetle1087 how is it possible the original movie did not get any nominations or recognition and the remake get all this love? The original movie is far superior but I don't care for Boston scene.
@@beetle1087 Is it, tho? I personally thought it was completely different from nearly every Hollywood movie I've ever seen. Killing off your main character like 20 minutes before the movie is finished and then killing off nearly every other character is a pretty bold move to make.
You know, I never liked Leonardo DiCaprio. He was seen as Hollywood's sweetheart and although I didn't mind him in Romeo and Juliet, I just didn't care for him. This movie turned my thoughts on him around and I believe I've watched every movie of his since. Such a great film and such a great actor. Thanks Dan, may watch this tonight as those clips had me LOL'ing!
10:22 IMHO this moment was handled better in the HK version, where the body isn't shown falling and all we see is the sudden impact when the capt lands in front of Yan. It's far more shocking and you feel Yan's emotional gut punch.
I’m a big fan of Dan here and I really respect his opinion. But upon watching Wolf of Wall Street, I think it be hyperbole to say it only glorifies crime but I think it doesn’t do enough to balance the narrative between Leo and the FBI. Nothing in the second or third act really balances out the Glorious partying in the first and second acts. IMO it should or could have been more balanced if it’s not supposed to be lopsided
original is superior. this versions ending is too hollywood, wish people would appreciate world cinema more. might click that there are far superior films elsewhere. taxi driver and king of comedy are far superior, deeper issues, not just fun.
I'm not a Scorsese fan at all (didn't like Goodfellas, Wolf of Wall Street, or The Irishman), but I absolutely loved this movie. The main thing was that this time I could really connect to the characters and it didn't had a lot of voice-over which is something I really dislike.
its my favourite movie period. what i think is very underappreciated is that there is no fat on the story. nothing is unnecessary that isnt used to develop a character or further the plot
original is superior. this versions ending is too hollywood, wish people would appreciate world cinema more. might click that there are far superior films elsewhere. taxi driver and king of comedy are far superior, deeper issues, not just fun.
@@beetle1087 very weird comment you made there that has nothing to do with anything i wrote. it is my favourite movie because it did to me what star wars did to other. beeing mind blown how good a story can be and i chase that gangster movie dragon ever since. i dont care if other movies are technically better. i have a softspot for the departed, in bruge der tatortreiniger das boot and adams 🍎 🍎 that will never change. so yes there are better movies but like in books i never got the enjoyment out of mobby dick that i got out of reading karl may books
A Scorsese filmography video would be good! I don’t -really- see how each crime film he makes is distinct but would love to hear more of your analysis, Dan 😊
I watched The Departed in theaters and I REALLY liked. However, I finally watched it a second time just a few months ago and I appreciate it even more now. Partly for a lot of the same reasons as you stated in your video, but also because now I live near Boston and the movie makes even more sense to me now geographically. The initial viewing stuck in my mind so well that I didn't feel compelled to see it again until after enough time had passed. Infernal Affairs was really good, but I was pleasantly surprised at how different it was from The Departed. Thank you!
I'm not convinced Sullivan had any guilt tbh. An incredibly pragmatic, selfishly driven character. I agree the narrative called for it, but I also took great satisfaction in his death. 😁
This is one of my favorite movies. Mark Wahlberg is stealing every scene he's in. I did watch the original and it is a great film, but I LOVE the editing in the Scorsese version as well as many of these excellent actors and prefer it for that reason.
Your all my movies videos have been great to my cardio sessions at the gym man! It’s a great distraction to make me forget I’m running! Keep it up dude!
Happy to finally be able to watch these without the irritating Schmoedown pre-rolls. :D Nothing against them but the vibe of that ad just did not match AT ALL with the chill nature of the show.
Great movie, cool revisit, but oddly enough I liked the supporting performances (Martin Sheen, Alec Baldwin, and especially Mark Wahlberg to name a few) more than those from the marquee names.
Amazing! Hope you guys will have time to do Bladerunner (too many versions to write down) but also the sequel that in my opinion is up there as one of the best sequels ever made.
It’s a really good remake, but sadly, the original is such a superior film. Even I enjoying The Departed so much, but I can’t even denies how great of Infernal Affairs is.
I thank this film for introducing me to Scorsese. I watched this film due being a fan of Damon and DiCaprio. I think it may have been the first R rated film I watched in the theater.
The Departed is a great movie and it has one of the best casts in any movie. The fact that it's not even in my personal top five Scorsese movies says a lot more about scorsese's filmography than it says about The Departed
This was a great video. You had so much to say and clearly it came from the heart. It was like an oldschool moviefight , but you were sparring with yourself in a good way. Lots of passion for a fabulous movie here.
To deny there's goofy stuff in the movie is a little much, i mean jack nicholson literally draws a detailed picture of a rat to show how obsessed he is with the situation he's in. But to dan's credit, to imply that stuff makes the movie bad is just bad criticism. Stuff like that merely just gives it a bizarre sense of personality, which god forbid something be fun while thought provoking. I was one to be calling it overrated, but now i really cant deny how truly great the film is.
@@brianng8350 the rat at the end is still pretty goofy too, even if you can twist it to be this multi-layered use of symbolism its still a bit much like yeah these guys are obsessed with finding a rat we get it. But that has no bearing on ruining the movie, its just a trivial nitpick. The movie is indeed worth the accolades like dan says imo.
I prefer Infernal Affairs by far. I am always sad to know Scorsese got an Oscar for this remake... Did he even mention Infernal Affairs or foreign movies in his acceptance speech?
@@DanMurrellMovies thanks for the reply, that was an honest question (I should have dropped the "even") so glad to know that he did :) I'm glad you enjoy The Departed as much as you do! :)
(also thanks for all your amazing videos, I've been enjoying it for the past 6 years or so, really miss movie fights thought! "Which is better between Infernal Affairs and The Departed" would have made an interesting round... that you would have won no doubt! ^^)
You wrong about editing. First the script is not the easy to develop into well told story. The pacing sometimes goes crazy, and sudden turns and music cut off, changing locations, character to character, it all keep you engage, feel anxious and little off balance. Two main characters going through the same. You just follow. And unexpected twist and turn happens and you don’t even have time to be shocked you just expect it, because it’s makes sense. Love this film
Dan is at his best when he's not apologizing for his analyses or arguments about films, which, to be honest, I think he does frequently. He, like many RU-vid cinephiles, often hedges his bets, so to speak, when he attempts strong arguments in favor or against a given film. "If you like [this movie], then you liked [this movie]!" "If we disagree, that's OK!" "But what about *you* ? Did you like the movie?" These points should be a given, and I feel Dan's arguments come across cleaner if he's not second guessing himself. Film analysis may not be perfectly objective, but it should be based in logic, reason, and a well rounded understanding of films and film craft. Dan should let his arguments speak for themselves more often, because he generally does make strong arguments.
well 34min just say the movie is amazing because its amazing, I like your work Dan so I was expecting more (to explain why I should consider the movie to be well made), I never liked this movie and watching the original I can see how some of the adaptations made were bad to terrible.
Also, anyone who thinks Martin Scorsese’s career shouldn’t be filled with more Oscar statues than any other currently active film maker I’d like to hear any arguments? Because that premise seems fundamentally insane to me. I’m not saying if you’ve been dropped on your head as a child or just don’t like his work I can’t think of a more influential active director, who also makes amazing films.. since the 70s.. there’s other directors who are less prolific that I may like an individual film more or less than a lot of MS work, but he is undeniably in the conversation for GOAT, and at a minimum active GOAT lol.
I'm being honest here: when I first watched this movie I did think it was a masterpiece, but looking back at it, I think the movie's a mess. Don't get me wrong, the cast was an A-plus, and I enjoyed some of the concepts it brought in, and Martin Scorcese for once created a perfect Macguffin for the film (the micro-processors), and I will say the cellphone scene was probably the best part, but as far as execution goes, I don't think it was that good, especially during the 3rd act and climax. Now while the elevator scene was quite surprising, at the same time, it doesn't make any sense. Like how is Trooper Barrigan a mole? The movie establishes the Frank Costello met Colin as a kid, but when did Frank met Barrigan? And WHY was Barrigan doing this? Like there's no foreshadowing of Barrigan's motives. And yeah, maybe Frank did this to cover up his bases, and added a few moles in, just in case one mole got outed or didn't progress/make it far enough into the police force to be useful; but WHY does Barrigan know about Colin, but Colin doesn't know about Barrigan? I mean they were in the SAME training class, for crying out loud. Did Barrigan get turned later? I mean if we the audience are gonna go with the assumption that Barrigan's the mole and knows about what Colin's been doing and maybe Barrigan was only planted just to keep an eye on Colin, HOW does Barrigan know that Frank was an FBI informant? Colin, who has reached one of the HIGHEST RANKS of the State Police, doesn't even know about it and only found out about it due to a single journal entry from Captain Queenan. But that's because Billy told him, and Billy knew because some literal random drugged-up dude knew that he interrogated, because of LITERALLY WHATEVER REASON. I mean what's that dude's story? Now even if Barrigan WAS assigned by Frank to be a mole and keep tabs on Colin and that somehow he also snuck into the room and found Queenan's journal to learn that Frank's also a rat, in the film, Barrigan literally says, "Costello was gonna sell us to the FBI.". So HOW would Barrigan know that Frank was planning to sell them out? And WHY would even the FBI care? If Frank Costello was the FBI's rat and Colin and Barrigan were helping him, wouldn't Colin want to help Frank? Like would the FBI be psyched that Colin was doing the ground-work for them (I mean he keeps Frank out of trouble so they could keep giving him information.)? Also, the whole FBI plot with Frank being a rat, is only in The Departed BECAUSE of the whole bases around Whitey Bulger (who Costello's character is based on), which I can understand. But if I'm being honest, it really doesn't add anything to the film and would only make the plot sound more complicated than it needs to be. I guess Martin Scorsese and the writers thought that one of the themes should be what Mr French said, "It's a nation of f***ing rats.". Plus, once Barrigan kills Billy, then Brown, and then tell Colin that they have to stick together (But WHY exactly, if they're the only moles left?), Colin kills Barrigan? And for what reason? You see in the original movie Infernal Affairs, it makes sense, since Chan (who's suppose to be Billy's counterpart) calls the police to meet him at the building where he meets Lau (Colin's counterpart), so when Chan brings Lau downstairs, he's literally bringing him into police custody. Lau then kills Inspector B (Barrigan's counterpart), because he needs a fall-guy, since Chan already told the cops he has the mole in custody. But in The Departed, Billy hasn't told anyone about Colin, not even Trooper Brown. So now that Billy and Brown are dead, there really is no reason to kill Barrigan. They really could have both gone home and left those two there. Also, if you pay attention to the scene when Colin tries to cover the mess, you have to ask yourself HOW Colin would come up with a story that would explain this to the police. He says Barrigan attacked him, but wouldn't they tell from forensics that Billy punched him? I mean, they don't even give us Colin's complete made-up story to the police for why he was there. It's just all not coming together.
Well if Scorcese is gonna s*it on the MCU (and therefore on the work of coleagues of his) saying that they are all the same movie without even bothering to watching he cant complain about people doing tha same with his movies. I mean, at the same time the guy is directing a movie with De Niro, Pacino and Joe Pesci about the italian mafia (spending millions of dollars to deage De Niro instead of giving the part to a young actor) he has the nerve to complain about MCU movies all being the same and taking away money from other projects. I wonder how many indie movies Netflix could have made with the money they expend on deaging De Niro.
love this review but i disagree on your thoughs about editing. The editing that scorsese and Thelma do is based a lot on european editing where film is taking on a different reality. Hollywood sadly only cares about realistic matching editing.
great analysis. i thinm though you should add to the list of Scorcese organized crime movies The Wolf of Wall Street, as a story of white collar crime.
This movie confused me so much on my first viewing. Leo and Matt look so similiar and are in such similiar situations in the moive that I got them mixed up in a lot of scenes.
I just watched this for the first time in 2022 and it became one of the top films I’ve ever seen. The acting, the script and the awesome final just made me scream out loud. So amazing.
Didn't know that Brad Pitt was originally going to play Matt Damon's part. Crazy we didn't get Pitt and Leo together until over a decade later in Once Upon a Time.
I love this movie it made me finally see Leonardo as the true actor he was post Titantic. Then I went on a streak of watching all his movies I missed. The cast in this is amazing. And it’s got so many layers
My favorite moment in the movie is the car chase with Nicholson making the call to Matt Damon's character and the Irish music playing in the background. And when he starts screaming, the music cuts off at the very same time. It's so impactful due to the editing.
original is superior. this versions ending is too hollywood, wish people would appreciate world cinema more. might click that there are far superior films elsewhere.
@@beetle1087 I'm not dismissing the original. I like it as well, but I personally prefer the remake. This is not one of the remakes that spit on the original and introduce its topic in a far worse way to a larger audience (unlike Oldboy for example).
Back in the day, Infernal Affairs ran on television and I enjoyed it so much, I later bought it on DVD, along with its continuation, a prequel set in the time of Britain relinquishing control of Hong Kong to China in 1997, Infernal Affairs II. And I knew there was a third one, but I had hard time finding that on DVD, until a magazine had it as an extra pack-in title. The third movie is a sequel, set after the first one and it's also very good. Very solid trilogy of movies. The Departed I liked, but I think it would've made a way bigger impact on me if I hadn't seen the original at that point.
So glad to hear You talk about this movie Dan I agree with everything you said especially the Fodder for the hot take machine part So true!!! Love this movie I feel like in recent years its been slept on but I think its one of Scorsese best and Definitely one of my favorites of all time
I forgot about Lucas, Coppola and Spielberg presenting that best director award. That would have been unnecessarily cruel to have Scorcese’s peers come out and then still lose. Never revisited this movie since seeing it in the theaters and I’ll admit some of those criticisms mentioned here have stuck with me without going back and parsing through them. I will remember that the performances in this movie are top notch and also introducing me to a certain song that would become the calling card of the Schmoedown’s most notorious team!
This is also one of my all-time favorites. I just keep coming back to it, in large part b/c of all the layers the Boston setting added to it. I lived in Boston for nearly a decade, while Whitey was on the run, and I have my own connection to that and the movie which I think also gives me a soft spot for it. Whitey's enforcer Kevin Weeks wrote a book with one of my journalism professors and actually did some advising on The Departed--the scene in the convenience store where Leo smashes that guys arm into the freezer came from some of Kevin's suggestions. That man was terrifying in person ha. It's weird b/c even though it's Black Mass that is based on the real thing (based on a book by another one of my professors!), The Departed comes closer to it in terms of the feel of it... though maybe that's b/c Johnny Depp was horribly miscast as Whitey (and I hate his fake blue contacts). The Departed is just so damn good.
Dan, not gonna lie. When I first started listening to you back in the day at SJ, I didn’t think I meshed with your opinions, but I grew into your perspectives and really appreciate your insights! These shows have been a great series! Keep up the great work.
