All-Pro Football 2K8 Retrospective 

Madden NFL 04

Nascar 05 or Nascar 07 would be sweet

I was actually planning on a NASCAR 05 video!

The original Joe Montana football on sega genesis and how they dumbed it down to create the first Madden on the console.

Nice work!!!

Cole Ortner Don’t do that, don’t give me hope, that can be the best thing to ever happen to football gaming

EA would be officially done in the football market if that happened; and I really would love this to happen; shots out to Trip Hawkins!!!

That would be amazing

2k made a NCAA football game. It was terrible

@@commonsenseability true and that was in the past, yet EA makes terrible games in the present so...

Marshon MVP King they got permission back then too.....

Mannn...u said it. At this point all gamers are mini-programmers anyway..2k8 is unbelievably realisticin comparison

They need to make " pro football simulator 2020 " then they can let the users make the teams and logos themselves while they start off with generic teams and uniforms build the game so that the community can help finish the game like they have with 2k8 I just believe that as a community if they gave us the tools we could finish the project and make it into something special

@Lion Slicer exactly my point just just worded much better lol

Pretty much what maximum football is trying to do

You're forgetting about the braindead QB and DB AI.

⁠@@yeomaneLol, nothing like my DBs randomly turning around and running the opposite direction against Hail Marys

@@3headedsnake388 Yup or Peyton Manning and Tom Brady throwing into triple coverage.

won't happen. XFL will fail within two years. Vince is struggling with the current WWE product and he will put the WWE over the XFL.

DJ Skandalous please don't get my hopes up! Lol!

This would be a must buy on PS5

I've been waiting since 2008. I gave up. Don't get your hopes up.

DJ Skandalous hell yes that would be amazing

Yes, and in Madden, everyone on the field chases you no matter where they are on the field. I believe in either 2k5 or APF2k8, opponents would slow down and realize what a lost cause it would be to attempt to give chase. It was a really realistic and immersive experience.

Can you help me get an achievement in this game Twigg?

@@bobertislam69 Which achievement? I don't even have them all.

Twigg4075 the one where you need to win an online tourny or league, i think 4 people are needed in total. Do you know anyone else who plays?

@@bobertislam69 Unfortunately I do not. You might want to try the site operationsports.com

FerdyGames imo it all came down to John maddens name and his legacy.

@@boogiesmula559 yeah

I swear I thought he died in 2014 this is Mandela effect

@@boogiesmula559 madden is alive

@@boogiesmula559 and the fact that they wanted more $$$. They didn't want NFL games being sold for cheap like how 2k5 was.

Facts

I would love to see madden go to hell and go under

Not reallly, 2K games is trash nowadays just like EA Games is, because people keep buying these new shitty microtransactions infested games

@@dodekinderen2066 To a degree. But the biggest difference between EA and 2K, is the effort. They still seem to care about improving the game, at least for ones they had developers in. (WWE being the only outlier) The effort EA put into the latest FIFA and Madden, on current gen consoles and PC, pales in comparison to even the effort 2K put into NBA2K2 for the Nintendo Switch alone.

I agree. Madden is actually getting worse!!

It really is. So fluid.

It’s amazing imagine with new graphics holy shit

Rainy days on 2k8 sucked so bad lol slipping all over the place

Olivia Benson and that’s the experience i want videogames to have

John Green-Trujillo you mean...a realistic experience of gameplay *gasp*

@@johnmorales6281 yes. But has better effects than even FIFA 22.

@@SCSAsJorts 👍👍

NCAA Football had that feature in 2009 or 2010 (I forget which year). You could set custom music to a number of different triggers in the game.

Sadly this was an Xbox exclusive feature because the system had the ability to rip your CDs like iTunes or Windows Media Player.

I loved that about 2k5 it was insane, madden doesn't compare

@@skillracoonful yep and 3D wrinkles in the jerseys and sweat were also xbox only features too

The sad fact is this is why monopolies are normally illegal. If you're the only one that can produce something why would you make it any better make the same product charge the same price

BList Not just like that. You make the same thing, but make it shittier and charge whatever because you won’t have competition. Release it, nobody likes it but gets it anyway because you have no choice. EA doesn’t give a damn about consumer satisfaction. All they care is how to make the most money like a machine.

@@BlueBlur24 lmao 2k dont give a fuck about the consumer either

People need to stop buying Madden. All the fools pre-order.

@@schmoove_ Yeah Timmy? They sure care about putting out an ACTUAL football game.

Nahhh... the way they run with the football is flawless and smooth, but madden wanna be stiff af for some reason

@joshcote also like how all players don't look like insects by the legs #bringbck2k

It looked real

guess what you can do in madden, move the stick left then right and what do you think happens??? lol you guessed the same damn thing lol

Bidwellz9 hell nah madden u gone get sucked into a sack animation dick head🤣don’t to this to the heart

@@Bidwellz9 he was talking about the unique way he escaped the pocket. He looks at the defenders and make a move to escape them. In Madden you can escape pressure, but it doesn't look very real. You move the quarterback away from the defenders while he blankly stares downfield and then gets sucked into a reach sack animation.

@@joshhiggs3961 facts, facts! 💯...please school 'em

Damn corona

Well, like a couple others have said, 2K went down the same route(NBA). However, if there is competition then there is actually reasons to improve so who knows how it would turn out?

@@netherwolf3012 EA still has nba licences

@@netherwolf3012 there was competition, but they beat them too bad into hiding. (Nba Live) there is no monopoly like the EA/Nfl. EA just lost that battle and couldn’t make a better nba game and they gave up they basically also gave up with madden

I swear when I play madden it's like I'm playing a script it's trash imo

Penny the Wise amen brother

@@mkratos17 that's cause you watch a bunch of Ryan moody videos.

Benjamin Peters so are you saying it isn’t trash??

@@Richard-ks5fg I'm not in a position to judge...but I can see when someone is trying to garner an audience by appealing to internet trolls. Madden has flaws that should be pointed out, but sometimes it gets quite petty. Like complaining about the injury animation. In that video adrian Peterson injured his left hand, and moody criticized that he slammed his helmet...when he did it with his right hand. Those are just nitpicks and you can definitely nitpick 2k5 if you want. When you play on turf, the field looks like trash by the end of the game...when its turf. They miss uniforms that madden had...like the cowboys 1995 blue throwback (although they had the white version from 1994). They didnt have a create a team. And the postgame show was all over the place. There is a video where a guy plays Dallas vs New York to a 10-10 tie. At the end of the game, berman says Dallas wins 10-10 and in the recap he says New York wins 10-10. Also you cant choose the uniform of your opponent in franchise mode like you can in madden. And these issues werent new...they carried over from previous 2k installments.

Give me the franchise and superstar mode from Madden 08 with 2k8's gameplay and the presentation from 2k5 and I'll never buy another football game again

How about madden 19 graphics 2k8 gameplay and 2k5 presentation

Yo! any way you would kindly help me get the "We are the Champions" achievement? Really wanting to get those 5 abilities for my gold star guys.

The fact that people think the animations in NCAA 14 were good are dumb

@@danielberretta1833 *is dumb*

The wear and tear on the field, that hit me hard bro. I used to love seeing it get torn up during the course of a game, sadly, we will never see that again.

If this game got the same treatment as "2k5 resurrected".. it'd be a horrible day for madden.

i probably put about 3000 games into it and i havent played it in like 10 years. lol It was a fun time no doubt. I dont even bother with sports games anymore. EA has killed the sports game genre for me!

​@eric studer would you be into helping me get this achievement "We are the Champions" so i get get the 5 abilities for my gold guys for xbox? need to win a league or tourny. I need this..pleeease lol

could you maybe help me too? im really needing this achievment and I can get the other 6 I need by myself.

Never got to play it or 2k5 could someone give me their review on the game pls respond🙏🙏🙏🙏

This game came out at the wrong time. Madden was arguably at its peak and this game had no game modes outside of play now and season. If All Pro dropped today with more features it would sell like hotcakes

If the CPU AI in 2k5 didn't suck so bad, I would still be playing that franchise mode. They just feed you turnovers because they rush throws to avoid sacks, and they only throw bullet passes

They probably should have waited a year and used the extra time for an even better creation suite, and a way to make a franchise mode that made sense.

@@kylefunderburk4194 they should have skipped the expensive legend system and gave us a totally customizable system where you can generate players the same way you can with the APFE but with a cap on how many points you can assign to player ratings for the whole team, like a salary cap. Legends were cool and they feel different, yes, but at the same time they essentially played the same because the tier system created a bum, good, very good, and great caste of players but didn't give varied and flawed players they way you had in 2k5. You wouldn't have to choose between giving the ball to Tiki Barber a lot (50 fumble rating) and Ron Dayne (70 overall but 90 secure ball), or playing Kerry Collins (7 fumble rating and 50 speed) and Rich Gannon (higher fumble rating and speed and consistency but weak arm), or playing Deshaun Foster (higher speed and break tackle animations that were much faster) or Stephen Davis (more consistent broken tackles but slower animations and speed) the 2k8 editor finally lets people create a very diverse assortment of teams

It would be nice if 2K made an updated version of All Pro Football with fully customized teams, the stadiums from the original APF2K8 with new stadiums and the customizable uniforms for the next gen consoles. Add online play and franchise modes and I'm pre ordering the game. But unfortunately that may never happen, but one can pray for it.

because madden hasnt updated its character models since 2009, just stretching different slightly higher res textures over em every year, and the animations in 2k8 are ten times more realistic and detailed than madden 20

Dratix Gaming they look crisper somehow

Madden the players look like smooth round balls.

The animations in Madden suck. I mean many are nice on a vacuum but the way they all trigger in game makes everything feel a bit random and completely unrealistic.

Adrian Arenas yup. #NFLDropEA

MRbossman1982 smart man

Same here!

Me to

My last Madden was 16 but i only play 13 from now on, garbage game goddamn.

Maybe bcuz you suck at Madden! Jajajajaja

Frederick Dorsey yeah when I was a kid there was so much more competition, I haven’t bought madden in over 3 years and I don’t think I’ll over buy it again

They were mad. NFL 2K was selling for like 20-30 bucks that year and it was a better game than that years Madden.

Blame the NFL

That's not accurate...2K Sports could buy an NFL license and make another game if they could afford it. EA is the only company who can afford the license and is willing to make a game ;)

AEROTRAP They have enough to purchase the license but as of now they’re not “willing,” as I mentioned before Because along with the license, they have to pay to make the game itself which would take years. And there’s no guarantee they would make a profit after buying all that Maybe in the future if people keep trashing Madden the way they have been 2K will consider though😂

And it's free I think

I play the beast, the werewolves, the sharks, and the legends all the time. The other night I had a 48-45 barnburner I lost to the werewolves cuz I let up a kick return TD after scoring with 10 seconds left. I also let up a kick return TD after scoring with like 15 seconds to go in the first half. And let up an opening kickoff TD return. It would have been the best game of all time if it were real life.

The online was juking until the servers shut down

Hurts me to say this, but if they don't have any competition, they won't be trying.

Even the create a team is trash now

they don't care and now they are into the micro transactions which is RIP MADDEN FOREVER. WE NEED NFL 2k2022

Any idea if the online servers work, can you find an online match?

can you maybe help too? Im needing this achievement "We are the Champions" so i get get the 5 abilities for my gold guys for xbox? need to win a league or tourny.

Thanks man

Same here 😭

That's a damn good idea

The community already did this i got the updated Free agent pool with all the newly retired greats

Also all the great franchise through every year like the greatest show on turf rams , randy and the vikings, the whole 93 tecmo bowl season . You name they got it on discord to download and enjoy

2k wasted money with the legends.

I know, I kept looking for it myself. I ended up buying a used original X-Box & NFL 2K 5 to play it again!

@@bobs.381 gonna end up doing the same

They don't give a shit, obviously. They only care about the bottom line, which to be fair is kind of the point of corporations. Their approach is to have the dev team spend as little as possible, then make as much as possible. This is why Madden barely has any new features, and largely is the same year after year, with few improvements: they don't get the budget to completely overhaul the game.

They don’t give a fuck lol they got your money

Even rise and fall of Gameday, I would watch that, they were the first ones that featured real time injuries back in 1997.

Ouch lol. I got lucky at my gamestop for 5.99

Mine for $25 on Mercari; bought and never played, practically brand spanking new!

I know what that's like...no gamestop anywhere near me has it for anything

I got it from a mom and pop game store for like $2

aaaaand I found a copy at a local game store/arcade for $15

you won't be disappointed in this one!

Facts... madden is terrible

I still play 360 to this day, so many amazing games out there that you can buy used on amazon, ebay, or gamestop.

Nice. I'm gonna try to find it. I was turned off by the 2k5 character models, but this gameplay looks so smooth

@@mikes328 exactly I refuse to buy Xbox One or PlayStation 4, once those two consoles came out that's when gaming died and it became nothing but loot boxes downloadable content and half ass finished games for 60 dollars. I still have my stealth all black Xbox 360 till this day. RIP Gaming 1985-2013.

MICOLE WHYTE#Oneplus6T, A20, LG G6, That’s reaaally ignorant. I could name so many next-gen games that are incredible.

@@Eagles4life221 dude shut the fuck up ain't none ignorant about my comment. first of all it's a stupid gaming console alright? it's nothing to be talkin about somebody is ignorant about it. if I don't want to get a fucking PlayStation 4 or Xbox one then I wont. second of all, don't none of these games on any of these new condoles appeal to me. I don't play trash ass Madden and a lot of games that I grew up playing they don't even fucking make any more. The need for speed game the last 7 years have been garbage. The Call of duty games ever since black opps 2 have been fucking garbage. Halo 5 was fucking garbage. The company that made Halo popular don't even make the Halo games anymore bungie. You don't got games like NFL Street or NBA street, SSX, Def jam fight fight for New York. Or games like 25 to life or the 59 cent game called bulletproof. The fighting games these days are trash. They released Street fighter V and had the audacity to charge $60 for the game and it only came with like 7 playable characters because you had to wait for the company to add the rest of the characters to the game, get the fuck outta of here with that. Tou ain't got no marvel vs. Capcom, no SNK vs Capcom, no SNK vs Marvel. There's no new King of fighters games no new Samurai shodown games or fatal fury games. They don't make midnight club anymore. They don't make Dead space anymore. There not even boxing games these days, no knockout Kings no fight night. You don't got no College football games and there's no college basketball games. The gaming titles from the 90s and 2000's are way better than the gaming titles these days and that's a fucking fact. Metal gear, Splinter cell, Max Pain, Hitman the wrestling games are all trash these days. So with all that being said there's no reason for me to buy Xbox One or a PlayStation 4. Or any other fuck console that comes out after those.

Keyboard full of truth my friend!!

Madden doesn't EVEN look like real football :/