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A three way war between the flood, the borg, and the reapers. or the scimitar class dreadnought vs an executor class super star destroyer. I WONT GIVE UP!
Within reason. I mean, it'd be kinda hard to keep the crew alive if the hull is shot full of holes... Edit, relevant clip: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SVZlLOFDAfM.html
"If it can fly, I'm basically going to call it a spaceship" Introducing the Red-Tailed Hawk-class Birdfighter. Armaments include a nose-mounted sharpened beak and sharp claws on both ventral feet. Can fly up to 200 KMH. Atmospheric only. Notable for a red tail and can be easily identified by the high pitched noise it makes when attacking.
With the "Star destroyer" classification, I think an appropriate name, given that ships like MC80Bs are called this, would be "Star cruiser", and have "Star destroyer" be an imperial distinction
That is why the mon Cola named them star cruisers in the first place because calling their ships star destroyers that they produced in high gear would make people question it.
@@samuelvita6978 yes, and we all know what happened to the Republic... it became the empire... the difference is that mon cala created the star cruisers as luxury liners....but when the GCW(Galactic Civil War) broke out and mon cala joined forces with the rebellion they modified the luxury liners into warships... The ISDs and the venator star destroyers were designed for war... mon calas star cruisers were not...
The Dreadnaught class heavy cruiser is called a heavy cruiser because it's an over 100 years old design... At the time, it WAS a heavy cruiser. It's not well armed, though still fairly tough and it doesn't make the majority of the fleets because it's obsolete and only still in service because they needed more ships. They we're mostly used in the fringe against pirates and low tech worlds. They also needed a lot more crew than recent designs, you could have crewed almost 4 Victory class for every Dreadnaught, making them very ineficient.
Personally, I like to think of the Dreadnaught-class as a heavy frigate or escort destroyer analogue, but that's just me. Great video, keep them coming.
The annihilator was another Executor-class Super Star Destroyer so they are the same type of ship, like how there are multiple A-wings out there rather than just one - they are the same kind but your argument would say they need to be listed separately
I think a more sophisticated way to classify ships is based on volume or mass, what doesn't work as well when classifying ships with vastly different densities. Like, if you measure a vong, and an imperial ship, and classify them, you will vastly underestimate the vong ones.
Thank you for all of the videos you post. I can tell that you put it in a lot of time and effort researching each subject. Many youtubers only read a tiny bit before posting their videos, and it is painfully obvious that they know VERY little about the subject they are making a video about. So thank you for the hard work you've put into all of these. Keep up the great work!!
Love that scene with the music <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="624">10:24</a> - <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="634">10:34</a>. Super Dreadnaught ❤❤❤
Spartan Abrams this would be fun. Plus then we could Yoda vs Yogurt and Lone Star vs Hon Solo and Luke Skywalker. I think Chewie and Barf would sit to one side and President Skroob and Emperor Palpatine would sit to the other comparing notes. But the best versus would be Spaceball Troops vs Stormtroopers.
Correction: The millennium falcon was actually originally built to move very large cargo around. How you might ask? Think of it like a backwards semi-truck. The gap in the front would dock with a large freightbox and the millennium falcon would push it through space along hypderdrive lanes. In Attack of the Clones you can actually see the falcon flying next to the Senate building. By the time of A New Hope it's already a very old ship, part of a decommissioned line and heavily modified.
i mostly agree until the larger classes, where I would say cruiser where you say cruiser, heavy cruiser for heavy cruiser, then battleship for star destroyer, heavy battleship for battle cruiser, and dreadnought for dreadnought.
Cruiser to corvette or light frigate, heavy cruisers are frigates to heavy frigates, usually heavy. Destroyers, Light Cruisers, Heavy Cruisers, Battleships, then Dreadnoughts
It's an upgrade of the Arquitens-class Republic cruiser, @Daniel Peters , which was seen in Clone Wars and Rebels. The original one was between 170 and 237 metres long. In the Mandalorian it's an updated, enlarged version, somewhere between 381 metres (official length) and 670 metres (scaled to the crashing Lambda shuttle) And has updated engines, weapons and more Tie hangars added.
hey thanks, ive been wondering about this for ages (years). you are right that the authors have very little consistency with ship naming or size classification and ive found it very annoying but its probably my ocd and interest in the navy talking. as a note, i remember reading somewhere that a star destroyer is any ship with the firepower to burn a planet by itself. the imperial class was a good fit here, it took some work but it could do it, 3 could do it within a day (or maybe a few days i cant remember) either way that's a lot of firepower.
Around <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="440">7:20</a> In the old West End Games D6 Star Wars tabletop rpg books, the Dreadnaught cruiser was made by a company called Rendili StarDrives. So, in my tabletop rpg, I just call them Rendili cruisers to cut down on the confusion. Back then they weren't using the term 'dreadnaught' for ships larger than a star destroyer.
Mass Effect 3 fleet (all races) vs Republic Fleet at the battle over Coruscant N7 Soldier vs Null ARC Trooper Rebel fleet at Scarif vs Rebel fleet at Kamino(TFU2) AT-AT vs Droid Super Tank Death Star 2 vs 50 Lugerhulk class battleships Harrower class dreadnought vs Victory II class Star Destroyer
Above Superdreadnoughts I'd put worldships - stuff like the Supremacy from the Last Jedi. And after that there's megastructures - such as the Death Stars, the Starforge, Starkiller base (not considering it a planetary installation due to the fact it can move), and so on.
I'm late so you probably won't see this, but I would like to see a video on how many rebel ships you think it would take to defeat an executor class star destroyer. Now I'm aware that one a wing took one down at the battle of endor, but that was mainly pure luck and convenience to the plot. I would like to see realistically how large of a fleet you think it would take.
So basically for combative ships (from smallest to largest) it goes: starfighter Transports/gunship/shuttles Corvette Frigate Destroyer Cruiser Battleship Dreadnought Space station. An imperial star destroyer is a heavy cruiser btw. Not a destroyer. Star Wars ship classes can get a little tricky but I know them all. There are also other classes but I just listen the main out-of-atmosphere ships
+coming up on infra-red Well that's what every one says but really it's about 5 feet bigger way smarter and way more aggressive plus the way it hunts is more Warrior based then Drone to me.
+The Immortal Super Being But warriors have the ridged heads. Plus the height for normal Xenomorphs changes alot in different stories, movies, comics and games so Alien Isolations Xenos are bigger (which they should be. About time Xenomorphs stopped being the same size as us)
A lot of the things in Star Wars could be compared to real life, I.e. An x-wing is quite close to a Corsair or a P51 (a small stretch since it wasn't carrier-based)
Hey Eck, Fleet building question. I am putting together, lets say for now a “theoretical” medium sized fleet. Both Imperial and Rebel that are going to be designed to go head to head. Im having trouble choosing a ship for the Imperial side to act as a “Capital Ship” that would be considered an even match against a Rebel fleet whose Flag ship is a Nebulon B. *Question is* What Imperial Large Scale ship would be considered a close equal to the Nebulon B. My guess was either a Vigil class based off firepower, or a “Arquitens” Cruiser based on length and seeing it in different combat rolls. Question 1.5 is how would those 2 fair against eachother in a fair mock combat; no “Jedi devilry” as Thron put it ,fight. I do assume I will add corvettes and fighters but the choice of the Imperial flag ship is key.
In real life naval classification depends on armament and role rather than size for most ships. Frigates/corvettes are small light escort or patrol vessel. Destroyers are the primary multi-role escort vessels of a fleet. Cruisers are the primary multi-role attack ship separated into light and heavy by the level of armament and speed. Battleships were the heavy artillery of fleets that have since been made obsolete by aircraft. Battlecruisers/pocket-battleships were a cross between cruisers and battleships meant for relatively high speed and firepower. Carriers are typically medium to large vessels dedicated to carrying aircraft.
Star wars seems to play pretty fast and loose with ship classes, espcally considering how a good deal of it's space battles are based on wwii type naval combat.
simplest way to fix this is to just call it different fleets using different terminology. This is not uncommon in real life where different military's will use different terms for the same thing- the German's in WW1 did not use the term "destroyer" and called their small ships torpedo ships for instance. Star destroyer should just be a term that was created by the Republic and later Empire to describe their main line of Heavy Cruisers/Battle Cruisers also Terms change over time what they describe - "frigates" were once sailing "cruisers" but then became cheap escort ships- while the mission of the "Cruiser" went from long range patrol and attack to heavy escort in real life. In real life originally the Term "cruiser" was just a ship sailing by itself- and if you applied modern terms onto classical sailing warfare a sailing Frigate could be classified as a Cruiser. and once powerful ships become surpassed and obsolete- the Old Republic "Dreadnought" for instance could have been classified as a Dreadnought historically but time has made it obsolete.
MR.Chickennuget 360 Makes sense, though I always viewed something like a Star Destroyer as the Empire's main ship of the line, i.e. a battleship (or possibly a battleship carrier since they carried a good number of TIEs.)
well Battleships in the Starwars universe is reserved for ships like Executor and other super star destroyers. Imperial Class Star Destroyers should be considered battle Cruisers.
My star wars faction doesn't have a decide between batllecruisers and cruisers. But generally it either uses REALLY outdated General Cruisers or heavy cruisers.
I have a "what if" video idea. What if the Empire used used all those resources used to build the 2 Death Stars and instead built Star destroyers, it would pretty much triple the Imperial navy and I think that the Empire, with so much more Star destroyers, could have crushed the rebellion.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="215">3:35</a> anyone remember the part from lego star wars where the dudes get off this red ship, and then it explodes?
personally i'd class most of the larger ships as either battlecarriers or aircraft carrying cruisers (or in this case starfighter carrying cruiser.) most of the larger ships seem to follow a more soviet esque doctrine it seems where the aircraft carried are either only sensor platforms or defensive in nature with the carrier itself having the primary weapons of destruction, compared to a full on aircraft carrier where the aircraft are the primary offensive weapon delivery systems. for an example see the plans to modernize the iowa class battleships as battlecarriers with an aft flight deck and some harriers, and the russian aircraft carrying cruisers, and ASW helicopter carriers/helicopter cruisers.
id jam a z95 fuselage through a TIE defender on each space between wings there would be a light turbolaser it would be named 'predator class heavy assault fighter' also i would swap concussion missiles for proton torpedoes
I wish they'd use or at least cleave close to the navel warship types. Major classifications: - commercial ships (used for ship classes designed for non-military purposes) - industrial ships ( designed for non-commercial non-war purposes like transport, hauling, etc) - sub-capital ships (war ships destined for war/battle but smaller than capital size used to supplement capital ships) - capital Ships (large military warships that serve as the backbone of fleets) In each classification there's types or classes based on size and function: Industrial ships: - transport ships (used for transporting personnel) - hauler/cargo ships (vastly varies in size but used to transport goods and cargo material) Sub-capital warships: -Corrvettes (small ships used for fighting other ships) - frigates ( slightly bigger than corvettes but not by much. Generally used for harming other small ships and fighters and able to deploy fighters tho not much) - destroyers (bigger than frigates by a tad but able to use cruiser sized weapons, designed to take out specialty ships and larger ships) - cruisers (medium sized warships with bigger guns and armor but slower) - battle cruisers (slightly larger than cruisers that use battle ship guns but vulnerable armor, glass Cannons) - battleship (largest sub capital warship, difficulty in fighting smaller ships (i.e. Star destroyers)) Capital ships: - carriers (giant support warships used for ability to carry a large number of personell, fighters, and other warships. Essentially a mini movable command center) - dreadnoughts (giant capital sized warships designed for mounting giant weapons for dealing the most damage possible. Best against structures and such(i.e. Executor)) - super-weapons ("ships" that are ginormous and singularly used for their ability to mount weapons of catastrophic destruction (deathstars, mega star destroyer, etc) From there there are specific ship classes that designate specific designs and or function (the fact that all three levels are all "classes" makes it initially confusing) that are usually named after the name given to the first of that line. Then theres specialists classes of the above like assault frigate, reconn cruisers, and the like. But they are just specialization to the class that are diff enough to warrant a name. Then there's ships outside of the big 4 classifications like: - entertainment barges (I guess that'd be included in commercial ships) - fighters (1-2 manned starships used almost exclusively to combat other deployed fighters and supplement larger crewed war ships(it's not included because they don't require a "crew" per-say. ) Then there's the term "flagship" which isn't a class but rather a designation of a ship (almost exclusively a capital ship) that serves as the centerpiece of a large fleet. Though more than one can be active in a battle. ^ I feel like this would be better for Star Wars as it's more recognizable in that it cleaves to established navel classifications. Just imo tho
USS Vengeance (Star Trek) vs BC-304 Daedalus (Stargate) both with full capabilitiesAnubis's Mothership (Stargate) vs Eclipse Super Star Destroyer (Star Wars) Asuran Fleet at Asuras (Stargate) with ZPMs vs Coruscant's Defense Fleet (Star Wars) Goa'uld Fleet at Dakara (Stargate) vs Rebel Fleet at Endor (Star Wars)
Not to say every author intentionally gives a ship a class while fully understanding it. Outliars occur historically and it can be down to 3 factors 1. The type of class has evolved from the original definition or differently from other factions/ states/ militaries. 2. The state/ military/ etc that uses said vehicles have altered standards to fit their need due to size, budget, resource, or doctrine differences 3. The project drifted heavily from the original goal An example for 1 is the term Frigate. Which originally wasn't even a class but a descriptor for a type of ship or class. Refering to something that's manoeuvrable and fast though often meaning only 1-2 decks of gun batteries as anything with more is usually too heavy to be a frigate-built ship. This evolved over time with the introduction of armour, turrets, engines, etc and by WWII it was a niche class that fits between a size of Corvette and a Destroyer often times being looked at as a Corvettes bigger brother. Some can be very slow and lumbersome contrary to the original definition often acting as a cheaper smaller destroyer with more dedicated role or purpose. But in USA a Frigate was bigger than a Destroyer, often acting as a flotilla leader of a group of destroyers being the ship with the best capabilities and detection equipment over a regular destroyer or smaller vessel but not as expensive or big as a cruiser. The modern era is again completely different leaning more on the WWII US description but in many ways have continued to evolve. This is an example of a split evolution of design because the European and American definition of a Frigate are completely different. An example for 2 is WWII Italy, due to their heavy mountains, and the theatre of war they fought being the soft sands and deserts of Africa their vehicles needed to be smaller for both their production reasons and the doctrine of their landscape, What they call a Heavy tank is closer to what others call a Medium. Many of their light tanks would be tankettes to others, etc. An example for 3 is things is stuff like HMS Hood. Originally made as a Battlecruiser, but due to the lessons learned during the Battle of Jutland they increased her armour and she became Battleship, but then due to upgrades to propulsion it became a Fast Battleship, than due to its age and continued developments it ended up back to being a Battlecruiser. However in the end it has traits of every single class of vessel in the context of her time period. There can be a good lore reason for a ship appearing to have the wrong designation. But again it does depend if the original writer even intended it that way.
@@jeffreylessard7538 ... Its the ships N A M E. Class as in VERSION. IMPERIAL-Class Star Destroyer ARQUITENS-Class Light Cruiser QUASER-Class Carrier VENATOR-Class Star Destroyer DREADNOUGHT-Class heavy cruiser Its not difficult to understand.
I would class Corvette 100m-200m Frigate 200m-400m Light Cruiser 400m-800m Crusier 800m-1200m Star Cruiser 1200m-2000m Battleship/Battlecruiser 2000m-5000m Dreadnought 5000m-15000m Star Dreadnought 15000m-20000m
I would have based the ranking system on combat role ie dreadnaught as you did, a fleet killer. Battle cruisers as your capital heavy ships that have heavy armour and weapons designed for delivering and taking heavy bombardment. Cruisers which carry similar armament to a battle cruiser but sacrifices armour for maneuverability. Frigates as support/screening ships that bolster the fire power of a capital ship and tasked with taking out fighter craft. Destroyers as more screen and heavy weapons for killing support classes (frigate and below). Corvettes as fighter screens.
That big triangle spacecraft can fly through the area between the universes. In real it is smaller, and looks like an F-35 combined with the star wars type. It takes years to travel such a distance, some creatures can do this within few hours only.
More vong please. A vong concurred Galaxy vs transformers. Or the interplay of of the rogue sith and the the vong in corouscant's underworld post Allies. With reference to Bane's encashment in his beetle armor a the use of vong (vilip?) Crystal as a replacement for a replacement of the lightsaber kyber crystal.
The Millennium Falcon isn't what you think it is. When she is hauling cargo the cargo pod part of the freighter fits into the slit in the front and this is why the cockpit is strained all the way to the right so they can see around the cargo. Now with Han Solo behind the wheel the falcon is used for smuggling not for hauling Freight.
20,000,000,000,000 Super battle droids vs 1,000,000,000 Spartan II's in Mark VII armor with prep time, and they get to have access to any ground weapons, can have any base that isn't over 50 meters tall. It takes place in Hyperbolic time chamber sense no other fictitious planet is big enough for those numbers.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="348">5:48</a> Actually there is one 'ugly' cruiser in a "tarkin" book. Made up of (if i rememeber correcty) of munificent cut in half, with the ball part of droid command ship shoved in between.
There is actuall super drednought class that includes 2 ships: Eye of Palpatine and that was biggest ship ever (it was as long as an executor but it was designed to imitate an asteroid so it was much wider and thicker) it actually could indoctrinate like mass effect reaper. The second one is is star of corusount (I should adress that its smaller but it was old republic ship) it took a beating from 3 imperial fleets i think? then fell down from the orbit on hoth and hull was intact.
Top 5 final stands in sci-fi Covenant Elite or Brute Honor Guard vs Emperor's Royal Guard or the CIS Magna Guard Tie Hunter vs X-wing Old Republic Hammerhead vs Republic Dreadnought class Cruiser or multiple Rebel Blockade Runners
