You can be a decent person but if your friends are shit and they do stupid shit and you stand by and do nothing, then one day they'll drag you down by association.
This whole entire scandal is just infuriating! Why only the celebs? Aren’t there dirty police and other higher ups too involved? Should go after them and announce the entire people involved in this messy scandal!
Yes! My thoughts exactly where are all these business men, politicians or police that were bribed? They threw us one little cop for getting concert tickets! Where are the ones who took cash money and raped the women?! In Korea corruption and bribery is nothing new. Men and money come first just like everywhere else in the world. The celebs are the ones they're focusing on in the news because Kpop idols are a dime a dozen in Korea they are expendable.
The celebs have a more "shiny and attractive" name which attracts the public's attention. Revealing police involvement exposes corruption and the backing and involvement of big people and possible politicians or people in the government involved in the justice department.
On another note though: Why has no news channel hired you yet? You're, like, the most accurate, fair and amazing reporter I know and on top of that you're also super fast and easy to listen to! Thank you so much for your hard work and explaining everything so patiently ♡
Areeba Naseer really? Is funny because when the scandal first came out, people were feeling sorry for Seungri parents and Bigbang members and everybody said to feel sorry for the victims. The hypocrisy of this
@@nikandra76 there's nothing wrong with feeling pity for his family. But you're correct when you say that the actual victims are being given no sympathy.
@@anavictoria7225 I don't think any of us thought we knew Eddie or Roy on a personal level. It's just disappointing to see anyone who you supported outted as a criminal
I feel so horrible for the parents and Roy's father specifically. He removed Roy Kim's name off his professional profile while the daughter is still there. May netizens, friends, students, acquaintances and anyone who comes in contact or writes about this PLEASE treat the families of these entitled cretins as another group of their victims and show kindness and restraint. The pain their parents must be unbearable.
Not sure if their strategy is to release names slowly until the public is fed up... I have a feeling that there are much BIGGER names pending ... I'm talking about non celebrity ... Like CEO and government officials.
Idk if this applies in SKorea but I'm a Communication Studies major and my bestfriend is in Journalism. The rule in our country when publishing names in reports involving criminal activities is that we can write and report about everything and anything they did, but until they have been officially called into court for investigation, it would be libel to publish their names. So that's probably why they're releasing names one by one. Reporters and their company would be violating the ethical codes of conduct as well as being sued if they publish the names before those people are called by the court.
honowoowoo actually CEOs and government officials ARE involved in it. Remember when one if the Group chat member said something like everythings fine cuz they have the police officer behind them.
Okay, Eddy Kim really surprised me! Especially because of his songs and lyrics (which he composed and wrote himself) I always thought of "The Manual" as an example/instruction of how to make a girl feel special and loved without involving sex and he actually wrote those lyrics himself. This is so confusing and it makes me so sad and angry! AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!
Hot Cpaghetti YOU WANT?! I think he probably is a sensitive person to write those lyrics. People have different sides to them. He associated with people who did inexcusable things. He stood by and possibly did those inexcusable things. Doesn't mean that a part of him or a past him didn't have those sensitive romantic sides...or he could be a shit person and wrote those to portray a romantic side so girls will swoon. You never know.
@@xxxXKPoPXxxx Exactly! Maybe he has a soft and good side to him, but what if that song was actually just to swoon girls? I'll never know, so I probably won't be able to see any of his songs the same ever again. And him of course not either, like, mate! I'm so disappointed in that guy istg
Just because they say they wrote the songs themselves doesn't mean it's true, he could have a private writer he pays. also may it be a lesson that just because they seem sweet and caring they could just be snakes
@@katielee7364 That's exactly what I wanted to say with that comment! That he managed to deceive me with his sweet lyrics and his public image, which I should probably blame on me being naïve, but I felt like some people might feel the same about it
Someone is probably gonna buy out Roy Kim's stocks. Kangin has been in so many dui's I doubt he'll ever promote in super junior again tbh. Plus even if he didn't participate in the chats his rep is so bad as is. Sucks that everyone who knew jjy in some form or another is being dragged into this. It's like he's the common element in everything. The 2 day 1 night members, people in his past shows, ect are all affected. What a shit person.
Anne T Ngo I know. I feel so bad for all the innocent people who are some are trying to make guilty just by association. I hope someone does buy out Roy Kim’s stocks lest the company and the countless innocent people employed be made to suffer.
Munkee F10W3Rr1ng I feel the worst for jinwoon and the cast of hit maker bc their chat was just to share schedules. Also a really innocent game of golf got cha taehyun and the cast of 2 days 1 night in trouble for making friendly ass bets bc those chats were discovered with jjy's phone. Like wth why is he such a shitty person. And why is this information being leaked about irrelevant stuff. Also aori Ramen with Seungri. He's basically tarnished their reputation. Their sales are 300% down or some ish. They have to close down stores. I think this will make advertisers more cautious to choose people like park Bo gum who's super nice apparently rather than risque people like seungri (Never liked his songs bc they seemed so sexual...plus a prostitute literally took a Pic of him in bed with her and talked about his weird ass sex habits. You're in bigbang you can't just hire prostitutes willy nilly and not have them be from top secret agencies or some shit. Idc what you do with your free time as long it's legal where it's at)..
@@xxxXKPoPXxxx Cha Taehyun and the other guy from 2D1N did potentially break the law so we can't say they were innocent. It's just that their connections to JJY revealed their unrelated crime during the investigation. In Korea, gambling is considered illegal and their bet was in the gray area between a small one-time bet and gambling because they are rich and bet $$$$. As an American, yeah, I'm gonna think some of Korea's laws are weird (as in like any law that makes an action illegal even OUTSIDE of their borders)...but the law is the law. With Park Bogum...he is associated with a very suspicious cult-like church and is very gung-ho about it...so obviously I think many people are very uncomfortable promoting him because they don't want to promote that church. And it's not just like a normal church. He was born into a cult because of his parents and he believes his life was saved because the cult leader blessed him. He feels like he owes his life to this leader. And that's not some normal church stuff. When you start bringing up the concept of faith healing as in you heal illnesses by like praying and touching people...you enter scam cult territory. The church, knowing how popular he is, has made him the face and uses him to lure his fans into their religion. Since the general consensus in Korea is that this church is a cult, obviously advertisers don't wanna even touch anything associated with it with a 10-ft pole. Like I'm sure Park Bogum is a nice dude, but he's unfortunately associated with a cult. People don't like cults or suspicious churches and religious leaders because strange shit happens when they're involved (aka physical and sexual abuse, excommunication, scamming people of money, etc.)
I can't believe Lee Jong Hyun would do this. His dramas were some of my all time favorites, and to think all this time he was involved in this group chat is disgusting and infuriating. I hope more members of the JJY group chat are revealed and justice is served.
I wasn’t surprised with Eddy Kim because in a Radio Star episode about the golden phone, JJY and the hosts talked about him spending more time in clubs than focusing on his music.
I appreciate your efforts to be impartial. I’m totally disappointed that Roy Kim is involved. Ironically, I just saw a YT video lauding RK for not being involved. Thanks,again.
Thank you for keeping us up to date! Another case that occurred early 2019 was about the A-Teen abuse case. I haven't heard much since then. Just another video idea because oml you're so informative and trustworthy.
Man I really hope Kang In and Lee Chul Woo's statements/company statements are true. I feel bad for 2AM and SuJu. But why release their names if there is no concrete evidence that they were a part on Seungri's group chat? That makes me think the police or reporters are hiding the true names, especially since the police isn't going to investigate them. Man, I am so confused. And worried. I really don't want to see more huge groups get ruined by this.
ChimTae Icefire I believe it’s a diversion to try and cover up the higher ups who were involved in this whole mess. Keep throwing out famous people to hide the true bigger people involved. I do believe Kangin and Lee Chul Woo’s statements to be true. JJY was never shown to be friends with Kangin, only that they did one show together like three years ago, so it makes sense that the whole cast would have a group chat for the duration of the show filming and not use it afterwards if no actual friendships were made. And since the police themselves said they have no intention of investigating them it would seem their statements are truthful.
@@MunkeeFWRrng That makes sense. But why throw in innocent people, even to cover up the higher ups? We already know the area chief of police AND the national chief of police were involved. It's not fair and it's not a smart move, especially when the real names are officially released.
ChimTae Icefire I believe this whole mess surrounding Kangin started from a poorly written article/news video. About him being in a group chat with JJY but not clarifying that it wasn’t THE CHAT ROOM (the one with all the illegal videos). To get a buzz going, for clicks (the media, teenagers and anti fans) and outrage most likely. You’d be surprised. There’s other scandals going on that aren’t getting the same coverage.
@@MunkeeFWRrng So I've heard, but they also aren't on the national level like this one is. 😖 And that makes more sense. If that's the case, I hope they withdraw their names and release the real culprits when they can. This will cause undeserved backlash for these two. :/
It's not bc the police isn't investigating them further that they weren't part of one of the incriminating gc. Technically the police can't do anything against them as long as they only watch the videos and didn't distribute any themselves. It's not illegal in korea to only watch the videos. Only the guys who filmed and distributed spycams themselves are getting charged. The passive gc members won't get in any trouble (even though they should). I believe the police wouldn't be releasing their names if they weren't part of one of the incriminating gc. It wouldn't be ok to bring up their names if they were part of a total different gc that had nothing to do with it. Their public statements sound like damage control... Idk I don't trust anybody anymore :/
He's fine. But he has a dispute with LM Entertainment because they violated Daniel's exclusive contract with them. The case is still in process but we don't have much information about it. It's because I request him to talk about this :(
Eddie Kim was one of my favourite soloists. His songs made me sad but after hearing this news and listening to his songs again, I wanted to cry more because I felt so betrayed.
it's crazy... roy seems like a more popular person than seungri in this scandal. and people's view of him was much more positive... ppl must be really shocked. poor his dad too... this scandal may cost him his career and even the wine company he created. obviously roy inherited everything from his dad... musicality and share in the company... but... btw, take your time to update... no rush... we want good quality report too... thanks for update. you should also mention your tour business at the end of the video ;)
At this point there are so many people involved, I won’t even be surprised if there are even more... Also thank you for updating so fast, make sure to stay healthy & get some rest in between all this!
Thank you for updating us, I’m so confused with what’s going on now with the amount of articles etc and how everything is dripponh out slowly..... I can’t keep up. Your one that I can rely on to understand this whole mess!!!
Thank u for keeping us informed about this Pandora box scandal, Your English is perfect ,Your are a natural journalist go to university and get your master in journalism. Keep the good job 👏👏👍
I just hope all the family members deal with it the right way.. Just dont commit suicide.. its not your fault! They are all grown adults that have a capable mind of determinating what's right and what's wrong!! So please never result to suicide..
Thank you for the up-dates! Maybe the reason why the police department releases the names as they gather hard evidence on individuals' involvement with the case. Probably, they just want to make sure that this case is not going to be haphazardly investigated.
I would really appreciate that you make another video with updated information about this chat with official police reports. This way international fans can also be updated. Thank you.
Caz za it’s not only about jjy even if he brought out all this shit... by the link of jjy chatroom they discover that 2 members of 2D1N are gambling that is illegal in Sk
This is just so sad. I think the entire system is partly at fault for the perverse way these young men respond to women and sexual encounters They are not allowed to mature in a normal way, by not allowing them to have normal dating encounters when they are younger, and then they are let loose without guidance or supervision when they are older is just tragic . The lot of them need psychiatric help and attention.
My guess is that they reveal slowly for 2 reasons. 1, to update when they can to avoid mass hysteria by speculation and rumors and 2, they absolutely can NOT mess this up so they might need a very strict protocol before releasing something. If they would release a wrong name it really drag their badge in the mud.
I’m not a fan of the police releasing names of celebrities they are not planning to investigate. Even if they are saying they are not guilty of a crime, having their names released in relation to this scandal at all is going to have an effect on their reputation. It also feels like a distraction/ pacifying tactic. They are not releasing the information on people involved in coverups or other related information, so they are throwing out irrelevant names to attempt to satisfy the public. It feels shady to me
Altho I am glad they are revealing these names so that we as music fans know what singers to stay away from, I do think it's odd they are releasing the names of people who were just in work group chats with jjy. The guy was on so many shows, he must have been in dozen group chats. Does that mean all of those people who simply worked with him are also guilty? It seems ridiculous.
celebrities and police officers and the other political people that were in that mess need to be revealed not just the celebrities. Thank you for the video.
Yong Junhyung reportedly saw a video and had inappropriate convos with JJY in a 1 on 1 chat. I thought he was not in the group chat? Of course 1 on 1 chat doesn’t make the fact that he ignored JJY’s actions any better, but the level of involvement for each person is still important. Did I read something wrong? I thought he wasn’t in it. If he wasn’t involved in the group chat, please fix that error. Yes, they all did bad things... but I still believe in being fair. It’s hurtful to give false information about someone being involved in something so sensitive. Please correct me if I’m wrong.