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Join me as I butcher the pronunciation of Shou Sugi Ban, a traditional Japanese wood preservation technique. Or, if that doesn't sound cool enough, join me as I build a solid oak desk and then take a fricken flame thrower to it! Big thank you to Minwax for sponsoring this build as part of their celebration of Woodworking Month. When I'm building free furniture for my friends having sponsors for builds really helps me cover the production costs. This desk is for my buddy Robin who helped me out on my keyboard tray video. Along the way, I also explore concepts of friendship, and why it can be SO HARD to get honest feedback from your friends about your art.
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@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
Hey everyone just found out that Minwax has given me at least one prize pack (maybe more) to give away over on my Instagram page! If you want some free Minwax products for your next build make sure you're following me on Instagram @ZacBuilds instagram.com/zacbuilds/
@nosferatuzodd6427
@nosferatuzodd6427 3 года назад
Good job. Wood finishing is an art form in and of itself. Buy yourself a copy of Bob Flexners "Understanding Wood Finishing" it's a great reference to have around. Also invest in a Domino XL for this type of work and a Lamello P2 Zeta for the cabinet jobs when you can you wont be sorry. Normal biscuits are better than nothing when it's all you have kicking around but the Domino XL or a horizontal morticer and home made tennons cant be beat. Also could do mortice and tennon bread board ends fixed together drawbore pins. Likely would have helped reduce some of the movement caused by the heat from the tourch lol. Either way good content keep doing what your doing brother.
@NovocaineTV
@NovocaineTV 2 года назад
Meh... can still see those joint lines in the wood. Shoulda done epoxy in the gaps.
@deven6518
@deven6518 2 года назад
Was the wood treated? Treated wood doesn't char too well.
@deven6518
@deven6518 2 года назад
@@NovocaineTV I don't think it's the joint be lines you're seeing but rather the mismatch in the grain. The eyes focus on patterns, it's why we see shapes in clouds. If you're joining boards, try your best to match grain
@andyh8239
@andyh8239 2 года назад
I like the flooring; what is it?
@AndrewLaBreck
@AndrewLaBreck 3 года назад
Hardwoods are MUCH harder to get the burnt effect on than softer woods, which is why cedar is used traditionally! Pine works decently as well. It also allows the grain to be much more pronounced and you can do some really interesting stuff with soft woods like sanding in-between grains to get really exaggerated effects as it can create little valleys and lots of interesting texture.
@truthnaut7829
@truthnaut7829 3 года назад
I was always under the impression that shou sugi ban was about making the grain pop out in the 1st place so not sure why he was using the technique to achieve a blackest black look. Also, in my experience Minwax black is more very dark brown and the best way to achieve what he was shooting for would have been to use India Ink to just stain it
@AndrewLaBreck
@AndrewLaBreck 3 года назад
@@truthnaut7829 Yeah I get what you are saying. If you look at people doing what he was trying to achieve wit cedar you get this almost dragon scale effect that you can't really get on hardwoods. He didn't achieve that look which is why I agree something like a black stain probably would have done the same thing combined with a good sealer , could have avoided minor warping while getting the same effect.
@michaelalfonso1070
@michaelalfonso1070 2 года назад
I learned that too on my first Sugi project, (pine hand cut dovetails with a Maple handle) that Maple didn’t burn, lol!
@NobodyReport
@NobodyReport 2 года назад
I'd also say burning before the glueup would probably help with the gap and warping
@bennygerow
@bennygerow 2 года назад
Pin this 📌
@brotesser1
@brotesser1 3 года назад
OK no sugarcoat: It looks Like you just painted a normal desk black.
@51075BIGRIGG
@51075BIGRIGG 3 года назад
Yea technically he did, because he burns it then uses deep black penetrating stain. So I’m confused why use stain if the point was to burn it to achieve the look.
@whitetailtherapy7908
@whitetailtherapy7908 3 года назад
Yeah I mean I guess It probably has a little texture ..But like you said just looking at it just like a normal desk painted black lol
@Gloryofthereef
@Gloryofthereef 3 года назад
You get really nice effects if you stain a color to contrast the black, but clearly the client wanted black. Each project is built for the customer not for yourself. Though that’s not to say you should EVER build a turd on purpose if you value your time.
@scottroy6195
@scottroy6195 3 года назад
Agreed here. And put all those coats on it to make it smooth. I don't think shou sugi ban is a good idea for a desk.
@VeitSchenk
@VeitSchenk 3 года назад
@@51075BIGRIGG lol, that's the first question that popped into my head: why bother with the burn, if it's all coated in a super-black, all-covering stain.
@actionfighters
@actionfighters 3 года назад
I think that doing a Shou Sugi Ban style project is really cool, but its hard to get the real texture out of something that has a bunch of coats of finish on it. That's why a lot of the Shou Sugi Ban woodwork is used for exterior use like house paneling. Its still really cool though!
@Vyes
@Vyes 3 месяца назад
Wouldn’t a Shou Sugi style desk have a bunch of soot rub off if he didn’t add a finish? I saw another video that used a resin finish. I really like the look of heavily charred Shou Sugi but have no idea how to use it practically.
@yoleegirl
@yoleegirl 3 года назад
Broke my heart when you stained over that beautiful shou sugi ban.
@OutSideTheBoxox
@OutSideTheBoxox 3 года назад
Me too
@maryannkom299
@maryannkom299 3 года назад
Exactly, shou Sufi ban isn’t to make something uniformly black!
@kz.irudimen
@kz.irudimen 3 года назад
It was already completely charred, I think there was really no point in burning the wood if the client just wanted it pure black. The goal of burning it is to highlight the grain because it burns unevenly ...
@Daniel08353
@Daniel08353 2 года назад
@@kz.irudimen not really. Burning it charred black is a protectant from moisture, insects, and fire. Lightly burning it has no form of protection, and is mere aesthetics. It entirely depends on the desired results.
@kz.irudimen
@kz.irudimen 2 года назад
@@Daniel08353 1. The wood does not need to be burned anywhere near that bad to be protected. 2. This is a desk, good to know that it is protected from insects and extreme weather. It was just the wrong technique for the application and desired results, probably to add popular buzzwords to the title as this is youtube
@tonyk132
@tonyk132 2 года назад
I agree with Creig. Would personally have liked to see 4 separate matching shou sugi ban timber legs and integrated storage like drawers. Metal legs look industrial. However, thanks for demonstrating the burning and staining process. It's a real eye opener revealing the lessons learnt.
@eugenebakulin2484
@eugenebakulin2484 3 года назад
Honest feedback: I really enjoyed watching the process, glueing, cutting, sanding, burning, staining. It really adds a lot of value for the owner knowing how much effort it took. I don't know how it _feels_ but the final product _looks_ like a desk from IKEA. Kind of surprised b this outcome -- maybe too many coats making it too shiny?
@tegan71969
@tegan71969 3 года назад
Yep, might as well just go buy IKEA if your own piece looks like it came from there. I would be badly annoyed if people, when referring to one of my custom furniture builds, asked me: "Is that IKEA?!?"
@overphloh
@overphloh 3 года назад
I totally enjoyed the video, thank you so much for that! Nevertheless I also think it doesn't have this handmade or special character to it. Maybe (hopefully) that's only on camera. My first thought was that the surface looks like black painted wood. I would love to see a black painted (or stained) peace of wood next to the table to see the difference.
@AshtrayAnnie
@AshtrayAnnie 3 года назад
It's due to multiple reason. Real Yakasugi is only burnt wood. No oiling process. That the main reason it was done. To seal without oils. The videos I watch of this process on RU-vid all the idiots do the same WRONG steps. Not to mention Oak is WAY different than Cedar.
@Ben-fk9ey
@Ben-fk9ey 2 года назад
Yea definitely took away much of the rustic charm and personality the desk had.
@Danielism
@Danielism 3 года назад
I love how you blended the aesthetic which is not exactly functional, but came up with a way to make it functional with great form. Huge win, congrats.
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
Thanks Daniel! Much appreciated man
@hyundaiverna
@hyundaiverna 3 года назад
Next time, if you consider going into such type of endeavor again, you can try epoxy resin: it fills the cracks between boards, self leveling and hopefully will save time on applying coats and sanding
@sambodutch5433
@sambodutch5433 3 года назад
wont work bro, epoxy leaks like a sieve through the entire table once the wood is burned, it'll come out the other side, i do this kind of stuff every day :)
@fearthesunrise
@fearthesunrise 3 года назад
@@sambodutch5433 there is loads of videos of resin after burning so it can be done.
@sambodutch5433
@sambodutch5433 3 года назад
@@fearthesunrise OK, fair enough.
@kesselrunheroj8497
@kesselrunheroj8497 3 года назад
@@sambodutch5433 best comment
@61spindrift
@61spindrift 2 года назад
@@sambodutch5433 Why not seal the bottom and sides with a quick epoxy, let it dry and then do an epoxy "finish coat" on top? Either that or make a mold?
@jeremiahbrown4344
@jeremiahbrown4344 3 года назад
Just a helpful tip. Use a smaller torch, you'll get a more concentrated flame. Tecnique takes a little longer, but this allows you to focus on the wood and not overwork burning it. I have always had good luck getting a nice Shou Sugi Ban finish this way. Happy woodworking Ladies and Gents :)
@ternura727
@ternura727 3 года назад
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite woodworking channels, man. Keep at it!
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
Thanks man! Comments like this definitely keep me motivated to keep creating!
@sylvaind.6786
@sylvaind.6786 3 года назад
Biscuits in long-grain to long-grain joint add as much strength as a water drop increases the sea level.
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
I assume it would probably be exactly proportional to the increase in surface area.
@Foxiology
@Foxiology 2 года назад
I actually think this desk would look BETTER if the legs had rusted! Imagine that beautiful rust colour with the black desk!
@SusuReedJango
@SusuReedJango 3 года назад
With "project" if you follow proper pronunciation, you say it correctly. Unfortunately, most Americans don't understand proper pronunciation, and accept common pronunciation. We (Americans) are taught that if there's a vowel, consonant, vowel we emphasize the first vowel. But most don't follow through with that. I live in VA and inherited a Delaware accent so I had to figure out why people thought I talked "northern", that's why
@lnxcodevideo
@lnxcodevideo 2 года назад
I believe the Shou Sugi Ban wasn't ever intended to be super duper finish friendly. If you take into account the fact that is was used to treat wood for outside the house. So you started with an almost impossible task to begin with. That being said, I also think that applying all those finishes to it, and coloured CA and all of that, it's not really a Shou Sugi Ban desk, it's just a desk "coloured black" in a different technique and then basically painted over and finished, which by the way in my opinion hides the Shou Sugi Ban. I can't think of anything else except some construction beams or something like that used outside, that would've really shown the Shou Sugi Ban.
@lauri.nordling
@lauri.nordling Год назад
"Yakisugi (焼杉, lit. 'to heat cypress with fire')" is a technique to char the wood to make it water proof, insect proof (and nearly fireproof). The desk in question is treated with yakisugi/shou sugi ban, and in addition just treated with stain and a finish. It's just like saying you car isn't painted, since there's lacquer on top!
@FAB1150
@FAB1150 2 года назад
Honestly I really like the look, I can see why someone could prefer timber legs or unstained wood (the two main pieces of criticism here in the comments), but I dig the more industrial look and that color, with some but not too much grain showing. Love it
@mechafan180
@mechafan180 3 года назад
That's freaking awesome, I'm totally building one of these desk, but I think I'll use some scrap pine I have. I've done shou sugi ban a few times but I always used resin as a finish. I never thought of using polyurethane. There's a pigment called true fire by black diamond pigments, it's a two tone that when applied to shou sugi ban using resin it looks amazing. It's like a galactic sparkle purple, or that's what I think its like.
@h0bb3
@h0bb3 2 года назад
Japanese woodworker for 30 years - "I'm now not a beginner at shou sugi ban"- western youtube woodworker - "I flipped the table over and now got a really good feel for the process" it's a really interesting difference in perspectives going on here IMHO :D Cool table btw :)
@williamwatsonjr.6332
@williamwatsonjr.6332 3 года назад
Nice job the desk. I've got an idea about how to fill the cracks or gaps. Now i haven't tried it yet but couldn't you take some of the chard black sawdust mixed with wood glue and if need be add little black die to fill in the gaps. I don't know just a thought. Any hoot, i'm gonna give it a try later and if it works or not ill get back with and let you know.
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs 2 месяца назад
There's a reason why this is a technique with softwoods -it's to give cheaper woods hardwood weather performance. There's also a reason why the burning is done BEFORE the glue up. This desk would have turned out way better using a quality black tint hardwax.
@navajoninja8956
@navajoninja8956 3 года назад
I really like the look of the desk. Its attention grabbing and looks very industrial which I like. But for what I do and my work flow I think this desk it too small. That being said the look is still on point.
@nathanpehrson3930
@nathanpehrson3930 3 года назад
Can I comment on biscuits? My understanding is that the primary purpose of biscuits is to add strength to otherwise weak joints (they actually swell when glue is applied for an even stronger joint). The reason people say biscuits are only for alignment is because you don’t need the added strength of a biscuit when gluing long grain to long grain (I hope I’m remembering my terms right). So it does add strength to the joint, it’s just unnecessary strength making the primary use alignment.
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
Oh I 100% agree with you. But many people say "biscuits don't add any strength" which I think is a misinterpretation of the fact and it gets parroted a lot online. So I wanted to try and clear things up, but maybe I should've been more specific.
@tsabito
@tsabito 3 года назад
In a few words: I gonna build THAT!
@BlakePizzey
@BlakePizzey 3 года назад
Why did it take so long to find your channel. I love the way your approaching telling the story. Great filming and editing! An inspiration for my videos.
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
Haha I don't know, but I'm glad you found it now. Cheer man, appreciate the kind words!
@MichaelThompson-ne3ij
@MichaelThompson-ne3ij 2 года назад
I enjoyed the video and am planning a similar project. One technique I discovered years ago from a woodworking magazine was called ebonizing. Wood with a consistent natural pigment can be turned black with a subtle metal glitter by painting on a metal acid mixture. Red oak is usually very good while pine often doesn't change colour at all. You make the solution by steeping steel wool in white vinegar for 24 hours. Remove obvious steel wool and apply the clear mixture to the wood. It will turn black very quickly. Let dry for a day and coat with your favourite finish. I found that any light splotching from inconsistant pigment can be repaired with your same black Minwax .
@alduinc
@alduinc 3 года назад
It looks great. Just wanted to know, does burning the desk really make a huge difference considering you still used a black finish? What would the difference be if i just use the minwax without doing the shou sugi ban?
@johngardiner8847
@johngardiner8847 2 года назад
Nothing.. the burning was a waste
@furthernorthfab
@furthernorthfab 2 года назад
The struggle is real, Zac. For one Canuck to another… beautiful PRO-ject
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 2 года назад
Haha thanks Kris, good to know I'm not alone :)
@mychael6659
@mychael6659 3 года назад
The piece looks fantastic, but I would say it's more SSB "inspired" as opposed to a SSB piece. It needs to be charred pretty deeply to be considered SSB. I did learn some things watching this video, you did a great job collectively.
@hang4963
@hang4963 2 года назад
I am sure that will inspire lots of DIY after watching this, Also, you will get to asked "Can you do this for me I will pay you" ? 😜👍👍👍 Thank you for sharing
@WHATAGIRLWANTS2009
@WHATAGIRLWANTS2009 3 года назад
Zac, I appreciate your videos and skill, however, I think this project was a miss. I would have preferred seeing you develop more char and texture in the burning process and then use a shallow pour resin to get it back to level (with that process you could use any wood). I would have also preferred a keyboard tray to clean-up the desktop clutter. The legs were very clunky, but your client chose those himself.
@ethanstine4047
@ethanstine4047 2 года назад
Amen
@bradymcphail9690
@bradymcphail9690 3 года назад
Hey man, I’ve become a real fan! I’m new to your channel, and I like how you gave a background story on the history of the style.
@hand_of_g0d262
@hand_of_g0d262 2 года назад
What's cool if they have like a set up with the led lights or "gaming set up" you could use. Wood die on it and it turns out really cool dad build dad channel shows it too. And honest opinion that side table at the end. Ock up is magnificent!
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 2 года назад
Neat idea! I'll keep that in mind for the future
@Kcustom216
@Kcustom216 3 года назад
BISCUITS DO NOT add strength! I ate them for a month and my bench press decreased 😫
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
😂😂
@mrrberger
@mrrberger 3 года назад
TIP: Critique your own work in front of friends. It shows your desire to always improve and encourages them to offer their opinion. I finish with asking what they'd have changed if asking me to do it for them. Easy way to get inspiration and future orders.
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
I hear you for sure on this front, and I normally compulsively do this, but I often find it's a double edged sword because it puts your friends in a weird position where they feel like they have to reassure you that your work is good and that's not really very good either
@1320crusier
@1320crusier 3 года назад
Mr Chickadee is the channel to go to for modern building with Shou Sugi Ban
@TheAnimystro
@TheAnimystro 3 года назад
The desk top is really nice, 10/10, but I think you should have painted the legs, the grinded areas really show through and it's not great. Seen a few of your vids now, just subscribed :)
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
I hear you, and I offered to paint them for Robin but he loved the unfinished look and frankly I kind of do too. It's a style, but obviously not one thats for everyone.
@rodolfoconejos6477
@rodolfoconejos6477 3 года назад
Simplicity is the beauty of this desk. Great work!
@GetSquarewTomJolley
@GetSquarewTomJolley 3 года назад
This is the first video I’ve seen from you. The title “your friends lied to you” convinced me to click on it. Your comment “idiots on RU-vid” made me laugh out loud and immediately SUBSCRIBE! 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
@stankolodin5586
@stankolodin5586 3 года назад
Man burns wood so that it does not rot and fall apart over time. Man also coats wood in seven coats of clean paint so that wood does not rot or fall apart. Man very smart.
@christophermorin9036
@christophermorin9036 3 года назад
Anyone else find yourself subconsciously blowing the saw dust off the....video? ALSO, real time. Nice Desk, but the floor under it looks more authentic than the desk itself.
@A.Mere.Creator
@A.Mere.Creator 3 года назад
The link to your Instagram in the description leads to a dead end, just a heads up :)
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
Oh crap, better fix that! Thanks for the heads up
@CheffBryan
@CheffBryan 2 года назад
The two problems you had was not waiting until winter to do this outside, where the wood starts cold and quickly cools, and the other is not going until you have the alligator scale look. You're driving all the VOCs out, so hitting it up in stages is absolutely necessary. This should have taken two days to do, and the gaps formed are best taken care of with an epoxy pour.
@areebahmad2667
@areebahmad2667 3 года назад
The table is awesome but the legs could be improved, the legs finish is very uneven from the factory u could have sanded the legs first and then finished it with clear coat. I think it would look nicer. + u do say project weird. 🤣
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
This was actually a discussion that Robin and I had, but he really dug the rough industrial vibe of the unfinished legs and that's why we left them as is with just a clear coat to prevent any corrosion
@erins.5420
@erins.5420 2 года назад
Stop caring about what anonymous people think!! You’re a great personality with great content! The only opinions or criticisms that should matter are the ones you know what their face looks like and individually have a direct impact on your life. Loved the desk!
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 2 года назад
Great advice and thank you for kind words!
@TallGuyDIY
@TallGuyDIY 3 года назад
I appreciate the simplicity of the design yet the complexity of the methods to achieve it
@obiknobi8447
@obiknobi8447 2 года назад
You're right. Those legs aren't Pre-finished, they're pre-fabricated.
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 2 года назад
A proper glue joint is already stronger than the surrounding wood if you're using decent glue. So adding more surface area will not further increase its strength. That would only work with a glue that is not as strong as the surrounding wood. A biscuit could conceivably add strength, if it was made out of an equally strong wood and the grain was aligned properly. But a biscuit of compressed fibers, if anything, is just gonna reduce the overall strength very slightly because part of the joint is a fiber biscuit instead of hardwood.
@NatashaSallesSoprano
@NatashaSallesSoprano 2 года назад
best way to know if they like it (in the beginning) is showing them the photo of the piece but not telling them that it is you who made it
@H4x0r1
@H4x0r1 3 года назад
Beautiful desk. Instead of straight black I would tiger stripe it with Keda red wood dye.
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
Very cool idea and thanks for watching!
@alexfoxleigh9443
@alexfoxleigh9443 3 года назад
I made a similar desktop to this but instead of charring the wood jet black, I just used the burning process to exaggerate the grain of the wood. Then I stained and finished it. The end result looks like the desktop was made 100 years ago and I love it. Sadly I didn't have any time to make legs so I just bought some from our local DIY store and they let the desk down bigtime but hey, that's a project for another day :)
@donnawalker3910
@donnawalker3910 2 года назад
Gorgeous!
@derrickharris7306
@derrickharris7306 2 года назад
No rust on legs, modern is beautiful and I love the shou sugi ban look. Used it on an outdoor walk way and it has last for years. Plus...no maintenance. LOL.
@abhinabpadhi
@abhinabpadhi 2 года назад
Dang !!!! That's probably the best looking table that I've seen .. like ever !
@wilnosseck3229
@wilnosseck3229 2 года назад
I believe what a lot of people mean by "biscuits don't add strength to a joint" is confused with "biscuits don't add as much strength as dowels". Which, I tend to agree with. You get almost equal surface area for your glue, but more rigid structure. Either way, great watch. I am new to your channel and will continue to chime with thoughts. Keep it up.
@FIREBLAYZAR
@FIREBLAYZAR 11 месяцев назад
"I don't want to be at my friends house too long because it's covid times." Omg, I had to laugh!!!
@SuperNovaSirius
@SuperNovaSirius 2 года назад
I find it super funny that the technique is to make the wood water resistent and black, and you put it under a layer of black oil and 7 layers of acrylic. :'D But it looks really good and that gap in the back is way more stylish than a cable hole.
@jasonhilliker492
@jasonhilliker492 2 года назад
The desk turned out amazing. One thing that you might consider for the next one is to inset the legs.
@LiaTanith
@LiaTanith 3 года назад
Friends actually asking to buy your stuff is a slight tip off they really like it.
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
Well they always offer to pay, but usually I just get them to cover the cost of materials.
@LiaTanith
@LiaTanith 3 года назад
I’m an artist rather then a woodworker but I do the same. Or gift things someone asked me to make at birthdays or Christmas.
@Vorx
@Vorx 3 года назад
nice build. Perhaps next time you could use threaded inserts to secure the legs instead.
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
Yes definitely!
@eckress8692
@eckress8692 3 года назад
I really wished I had seen this video before I took the torch to my vanity top. That is truly some beautiful work. Two thumbs up. Looking forward to seeing more of your art. Thank you for sharing and the videos.
@encodedlife
@encodedlife 3 года назад
I might be a purist, but to me the fact you applied coating on your desk would, by itself, void the Shou Sugi Ban claims. And you also stained it to achieve a deeper black…. This is a nice black desk, no Shou Sugi Ban to my eyes. I love your work and the video was super well made. Cheers from Canada.
@next4887
@next4887 2 года назад
I did not read many of the comments so sorry if it has already been mentioned. Why not run a small prewired bar between the back legs with a couple of openings then run those wires through the legs to reduce the visual noise. I think the desk looks great!! Would I want it in my home, probably not. Not our style
@blueridgedsia
@blueridgedsia 2 года назад
you can rub it down in coconut oil first this will balance out the burn in areas where wood is more dense. Traditionally this is performed on a bed of coals. it would work better to lay it on concrete and scoop on hot coals with a metal feed shovel and then move the coals around with an iron rake
@JohnathanAulabaugh
@JohnathanAulabaugh Год назад
So I love this and plan to do a desk top similarly with a live edge. You may know this trick already but when working with hard woods you cans use bar soap on your screws to help them drive in without shearing heads. Hickory and mahogany are prime examples of head shearing without predril and soaping up your screws
@Glop648
@Glop648 2 года назад
Just from a welders point of view, I dislike that those legs had the face welds ground down which left shiny steel. Obviously it wouldn't have been a problem if it weren't for the clear coat. Also it looks like it's not even a smooth seamless weld/grind job. I know that if these were ordered from the shelf instead of custom you can't specify these details, it just looks funky.
@ehzee9640
@ehzee9640 4 месяца назад
Man, everyone is being so extra mean. He welcomed criticism, but dude was trying a method that didn’t work how he hoped so he covered the process of getting the look he really wanted. Everything is a learning experience and there’s information shared for people to be aware of mishaps that could come about. It’s likely 9 out of 10 of the people commenting wouldn’t even bother to try in the first place. He took accountability for his mistakes. It still turned out nice.
@zibzer
@zibzer 3 года назад
Looks great. Good job! You asked for constructive feedback, and you did a great job so this is nit-picky, but one thing to think about is a lesser angle chamfer at the bottom. Or less chamfer altogether, or failing that a skirt around the underside because the top looks thin. You have that beautiful 8/4 red oak but the chamfer makes it look like a small 4/4 top bolted onto huge legs.
@markpang8847
@markpang8847 2 года назад
Instead of the black CA glue, I’d use bright RED in between boards. With a slight camphor in between to pronounce the red color. Other than that, It looks sick. I’d also probably put the camphor on the top instead of the bottom. Just cause it’s a desk and not a dining table.
@christophersmith8014
@christophersmith8014 2 года назад
You did a good job getting a decent end result. It's hard to keep a flat surface when the cellulose is off gassing and burning so much faster than the lignin. The last time I had to make a floor pure black for a customer I tinted the clear finish coat with some of the black tinting dye from the paint store (I just asked for some and they gave me a couple ounces in a paper cup). It worked far better than the stain (and I had also stained it as dark as it could go) because it evenly covered the surface with a transparent sheet of color rather than needing to soak in.
@MurphyWoodwork
@MurphyWoodwork 3 года назад
Great video!! I use minwax Stain for my builds, good prices and consistent results.
@bryanholder1329
@bryanholder1329 2 года назад
If you wanted it to be pure black and still maintain the wood grain look you should have used “pure India Ink” and then sealed it. For a cooler look take a wire brush wheel to remove the soft part of the wood grain, stain it with a satin black, let it cure then go over it with a gloss black and gently wipe of the top layer that’s on the raised grain. It will give you a contrasting single color look that really looks high end. Or instead of gloss black use a pure white and wipe of the top layer just like above. Shit looks sexy when done correctly.
@jkfilms5523
@jkfilms5523 3 года назад
The biscuit thing isn’t really an opinion, it’s a science thing. They’ve proven that it doesn’t add strength to a proper joint.
@BarefootBeekeeper
@BarefootBeekeeper 2 года назад
It's not the wood burning, it's the gas given off by the wood when it is heated.
@JesseHerreraMusic
@JesseHerreraMusic 2 года назад
I like that you took a traditional 'outdoor technique ' and applied it to this project. Super unique and experimental, and it taught me a lot about blackening/texturing a hardwood surface. I think it has a deeper, more textured look than just painting. There's still some intrigue to the wood that you wouldn't get if you just painted it.
@JFabric500
@JFabric500 3 года назад
If you look at your lap overs you are double heating the spots in which you overlap. Go past the table and come back.
@RayW808
@RayW808 3 года назад
If your friend tells you he can tell it's not just stained, he's lying to you...
@BJHicks
@BJHicks 3 года назад
the desk turned out amazing zac. picked up a new follower my friend. im excited to see more
@Buck1954
@Buck1954 3 года назад
Biscuits are easy splines. I've used hundreds of biscuits in commercial desk builds and have never had a joint fail. However, having said that, I have butt joined edges with no spline, dowel, or anything, and those have not failed either. The biscuits are a quick easy way to align the planks. Let your friends have their say, then do what you want. If somebody actually has a god idea, then incorporate it.
@user-cg2iq5qs2y
@user-cg2iq5qs2y 2 года назад
This is how cheap Ikea furniture looks like when you choose the dark one lol
@happosaai
@happosaai 2 года назад
That's an AMAZING desk and I'm now even more interested in doing some Shou Sugi Ban myself!
@zoltans72
@zoltans72 3 года назад
The desk looks great ! I would accept it :)
@unionse7en
@unionse7en 10 месяцев назад
clear coating steel: do it where humidity is low. heat the steal with a heat gun or electric space heater NOT a flame (a product of combustion is water vapor). can build a tent with a drop cloth place steel object inside and place space heater at entrance with an exit at the other end. Just before painting go over it with a heat gun. Humidity meters are ultra inexpensive. then clear coat and pray. hopefully you don't trap water under the coating.
@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
VIDEO SUGGESTION: please do the black finish using a medium density wood, slightly charred and sanded, dyed with varathane charcoal accelerator and burnished with a waxy black polish.
@captainspirou
@captainspirou Год назад
Rear chamfer should really be a feature of more desk. I like to push them flush with the wall
@arkster00
@arkster00 2 года назад
Gotta say that I like the fact that you have a linux desktop.
@MUDNROCKS
@MUDNROCKS 2 года назад
Honest feedback, it looks good, I like the exposed grain in the top, should have bead blasted the legs before clear coating them, should have riv - nutted the legs and fitted adjustable feet, modesty panel on the back side that matches the top would also double as a leg brace, cable notch was a good idea.
@anb1142
@anb1142 2 года назад
Biscuits are for alignment and it doesn't add that much strength. That's a job for dominoes
@penandlens
@penandlens 2 года назад
Love the desk top. Perhaps burning the wood before putting the desk together might eliminate the issue with the glue.
@bjvp182
@bjvp182 2 года назад
Aside from what I saw already on people commenting on the redundancy of the Shou Sugi Ban process to then black stain it, I thought of why not thread insert below for bold on and off desk legs for easier removal for transport/storage/longevity.
@DamonJohnCollins
@DamonJohnCollins 3 года назад
First, it's beautiful...I love the deep grain look of black oak... Second, I really dont think you get to call it sho-sugi with the black stain. Still, back to number 1, it's beautiful.
@Old_Man_Pete
@Old_Man_Pete 3 года назад
I agree with Robyn/Robin, it's a beautiful looking desk.
@Director414
@Director414 2 года назад
God-damn, that is a nice looking table! Great work!!
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 2 года назад
Thanks Eric! Much appreciated man.
@chriswagner3703
@chriswagner3703 11 месяцев назад
Could have gotten a similar effect with a lot less effort using iron acetate, especially since you are using oak, but for anyone saying you could have just painted it, might not realise that this process is meant to go deep into the wood and not just paint the surface.
@SpencleyDesignCo
@SpencleyDesignCo 3 года назад
Well done, Zac! I've never tried burning a table, but I did try dyeing some red oak a pure black and it was a huge pain! Can't wait for the next one
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
I'd really love to do this again and sand back the char because the oak underneath the char turned this really cool purple red color. But ya if you want pure black I highly recommend this minwax stain, I think it'd do a great job on non burnt red oak too
@paulg.6120
@paulg.6120 2 года назад
The only thing I think would have been better on that desk would have been sanding the metal legs for a more even texture, just because you can see where they sanded the welding on the metal legs. It looks fine, I just think it could have been a little more evenly textured. Other than that good job dude it looks good
@KeithOlson
@KeithOlson 2 года назад
I like the Ancient Hebrew definition for friend: 'one who watches over'. Friends keep an eye on you and--MOST importantly--notice when you are going the wrong way and speak up.
@shadowawaits1
@shadowawaits1 3 года назад
I have started doing some Shou Sugi ban at home for my gardening boxes and outside platforms! I never even thought about making some interior stuff!! The project looks soo nice, would had loved to see some way or addon you could had put to 'hide the computer cords or put an inside power station. GOOD JOB I am happy I found your channel!! =D
@Keasbeysknight
@Keasbeysknight 3 года назад
I'm curious if you would do that technique again if you just wanted a black smooth top? I think the attractive part of burning is the depth and texture of it, this process, though a beautiful outcome, kinda lost all that. I'm wondering if burning deep grooves and epoxying the top flat would have retained the best of both worlds, but when miniwax is sponsoring it, ya gotta do what ya did. Probably outside of your control, but the legs look really thick for how thin the top is, from a balance perspective it needs some weight somewhere. After all that criticism, 11/10 would rock that desk in my place and would be happy to have built it! Awesome video and love the honest feedback on those legs
@ZacBuilds
@ZacBuilds 3 года назад
I hear what youre saying, but I actually think I would continue to do it this way if I were doing it again. By layering on the layers of finish I was able to dial in exactly the amount of texture I wanted. If it were epoxied it would've been dead flat, which I didnt really want. I was looking for a happy middle ground between full texture and no texture. But ya I'm with you on the leg front. Generally as a rule of thumb I like to make the legs the same thickness as the top of the table. This desk was ~1.5" thick and I think the legs were 2 or 2.5".
@arinayuuu
@arinayuuu 7 месяцев назад
the correct name is YAKISUGI (焼杉 in japanese) 焼く: "yaku" means to burn 杉: "sugi" is cedar "sho" is the onyomi pronunciation of the same character, the original Hànzì pronunciation of the character when introduced in Japan. "sho" may be used in other japanese words, but not in this case. 板 "ita" is board, "ban" is the onyomi pronunciation. 杉板 (sugi-ita) means "cedar board​". but the technique name is YAKISUGI.
@oldgoat8861
@oldgoat8861 2 года назад
An idea only.....How about a 3 step burn process. Clamp and burn one side (not edges)...flip clamp and burn 2nd side (not edges)....remove clamps do the edges. Maybe this will stop any expansion or seperation, also warping/bow as well. ALSO.....Predrill and set crossmember for the legs. Remove the legs and place a (small wooden "T-beam stringer"). Replacing the leg crossmember, and COMPLETE YOUR WOODBURN. This braces the wood preventing ANY WARP. After remove your temporaryT-beam stabilizer, hit it with a burn and continue your final finish ?????? Yes it adds steps but prevents spreads and warps...or.....worse yet a ruined project. Actually all this sounds more involved than it really is to do.
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