Growing up I use to forge autographs. Cause my fav athlete wouldn't sign and I'm to lazy to wait outside coliseums lol. One time I seen my bogus forgery at a comic sports card store. Doesn't take much for a sucker to fall for fakes
The critic at the end was right, if you like a piece of art and end up owning it, it doesn't really matter who made it. But, with this art bubble people often use works as investments instead which is a double edge sword. On one hand it make sure that great works of art are kept well preserved, while making art that may be quite ugly to some more valued.
Unless the artist duplicated the type of canvas and the stretcher boards, and aged the paintings, they should have been determined as fakes by any good restorer. Due diligence is required when spending a lot of money, so I suspect the major dealers and the auction houses were complicit in the scheme. But that information has been known for a good number of years, so it is no surprise.
The forger isn't forging old masterpieces, these are modern contemporary works (I won't call it art), on modern canvas using modern paints that are all easily obtainable.
Their are very few legit art works left in the world . Many of ur ancient epics and greatworks are forgery . During the Renaissance it was very common to forge great works and epics .
@@taylorj6177 you dont get it... its all a big scam.. the art world perpetuates this nonsense called "abstract art" by giving a deeper meaning to something that is basically garbage.. to sell it big time...how they convince people is a mix of hype, perception, popularity, and "expert validation"
@@paulocuento9949- This is one of the reasons I always come straight to the comment section. looking for someone who can explain more clearly, what I always thought
rich people don't care about the artist or the painting its the value they care about they use it as a tax dodge by getting loans against it whose repayments are cheaper than income taxes
This made me laugh when the art expert said Forgers can splash paint too! Well so can my kids, and if somebody wants to pay me millions for their efforts, I accept bank transfers.
The art world is absurd. It's a competition to show off "success" by having rare, expensive things and to appear more cultured. Fake it 'til you make it. But, similar to having a designer structure everything in your home without knowing much about you, having a roughly painted square on a canvas could say more about you than you think.
Incredible how experts could be forged despite all the advance tech to prove if paintings were really made by the proper author. Pigments and type or painting are very effective. Some type of paintings have not existed at the time the work was painted. As has happened with Pollock’s and others. I refuse to believe a gallery sells a fake in order to get millions. Reputation, clients and lawsuits are highly important. A life time in the art business can be destroyed in a second. Money just brings prejudice.
He couldn't fake a Velasquez, a Carravagio, or a Singer Sergeant, so that shows anyone with a minimum of artistic ability could create fake modern art.
Lol. If you have the opportunity to buy a real Rothko or Pollock for $100 you would. Nobody would turn that down... If it had the provenance and the authentication certificate you could sell it the next day for literally 500,000 times what you spent on it.
Rothko and Pollocks work is great. It’s the art market that everyone should be upset with. If you think Rothko and Pollocks work is simple and devoid of meaning, you should take some time out of your day to learn about them, and most important of all, stand in front of their work and then make a judgment. Art history is much more complex than a simple “Realism” vs. “Abstraction”. Enroll in an art history course at your local community college. That’ll help broaden your perspective. You may still hate Rothko and Pollock, but at least you’ll be able to say why, and expand beyond a snap judgement that social media encourages.
If want to...You can choose to watch and then rewatch the last ten seconds of this film at 6:45 for a shot of this master's technique. The way he strikes and then pulls the brush up and out against the canvas makes for a glimpse at a last stroke that is striking.
The problem is that Rothkos and Pollocks are garbage "modern art" that are no better than children's paintings but a bunch of wealthy people have been fooled into thinking they have some imaginary value. The forger was simply capitalizing on a market full of buyers that are idiots whether they're buying "real" paintings or fakes.
Some of the people who spend obscene amounts of money may be art lovers, but let's be honest, for most part it's money laundering and tax evasion schemes that fuel the prices nowadays... And the so called art experts just give the market what it wants...
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So if you want to buy a Roscoe block of colour....I'll do you one....I've got several I'm using to stop a leak in the rabbit hutch.....
This just goes to show you how ridiculous it is to buy a "block" Rothco or a "dribble" Pollock is. There is nothing special about them like paintings by the hundreds of artists that came before them. Van Eyke, Vermeer, Rembrandt, Carravaggio to Van Gough, Renoir, Monet, to all of the Renaissance masters. I laugh at anyone who buys a Warhol painting of soup cans. What a joke. I don't like Picasso's or Dali's paintings but they at least have artistic value. I know people will hate this comment but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
The Chinese painter got $10.5 million from the $80 million painting.that he had painted .. this came out the New York Times newspaper i read the articles Pg10-11 he did get paid ten million after it was sold by the auctioneer
That it's "probably" a fake??? No, it IS a fake! I'm an artist and independent curator and can tell from this video that the fake Pollock is a fake by the vibrancy and tone of the colours.
The guy at the end is wrong - the lesson isn't that "people don't care about quality of the art, just the name." Many admitted themselves they liked them until they were known fakes... It's that there is more to ANY object that has some specific HISTORY, or "provenance," if you like - it's that we as humans value what we imagine to be a past and its story... a very human thing to do. And that is quite, quite valuable. Would you say the same about, for example, the "lost arc" or something similar? I doubt it...
Funny you say that - I painted something quite, quite similar when I was oh, fourteen?? Not as good, but, perhaps passable. Does that mean I'm equal to Rothko - or any other, for that matter? NO. And THAT is the entire point you all seem to be missing. There is much more to a history than just the fact one was a master painter, or whatevr
Are these people even serious to consider that art? Yes, it's just two different color rectangles. I'm not an artist, but I'm sure I can paint that. Also the Pollock painting just looks like he just splashed paint on a wall. I'm sure most people can do that also. I wouldn't consider either painting to be art.
Lol art forgers used to need a high level of painterly skill. Nowadays modern art is such a joke that a construction worker can paint coloured squares and rich idiots pull out their chequebooks
Am actually amazed ppl pay millions for abstract paintings that are so simple to paint...why are ppl so stupid to pay in millions for just random red and black boxes 🙄 ... What about those who spend hours on minute detailing....
For some reason chinese art has never climbed the top ladder of European and Western Art. Can this chinese forger could imitate a Michelangelo's David ?
For centuries, art has fascinated people. The sensitivity of the audience resulted from being stimulated by cultural events, social changes, wars, etc. This is how new directions in art emerged. Today's world needs something else, and that's why Compmaturism. The works of the Compmaturists relate to today's human needs; they are emotional, devoid of routine and calculation. They are filled with art juice.
The problem with contemporary art is there's no technicity involved in creating those so called masterpieces. As you don't have to be a high technician to paint it, anyone can forge that kind of painting. And because those painting had been made using modern pigments, there's no chance to identify a fake with scientific analysis. To be honnest, making a fake abstract painting is not that hard. Pollock, Rothko, Basquiat and other are really far far away from genius like Cravaggio, Da Vinci, or even from modern artists like Cesar Santos...
You have to be fair, Basquiat is a tad bit better than the likes of Rothko, Franz Kline & Pollock. More on the level of Twombly & Warhol whose work has a more abstract cerebral quality to them.
Also a REAL Basquiat would be rather difficult to duplicate for anyone who knows his work, he had a distinguished, unique hand regardless of his lack of formal technique, unlike the others you mentioned.
Oh noes, my abstract masterpiece (that you can't tell which way up it should go) turns out to be by this guy and not by that guy, it's no longer 'real art'!
People who say a child can do better paintings make a common mistake nowadays of replacing a concept with a technique. A technique can ultimately be learn by anyone through repetition but an original ideea needs the spark of genius. Yes anyone can paint a Rothko but nobody could have done it if it Rothko didn`t do it in the first place.
"Art history" is a sham too bro. It's a narrowed perspective on the actual history of art to benefit, promote & validate a small select group of so-called artists, see Koons, Hirst (both corporate artists who barely touch "their" own work), Rothko, Pollock, Franz Kline etc. There is a stage for all sorts of art but there seems to be a lack of art that doesn't need a written explanation to appreciate.
This fake and real concept in an art business is created by those businessmen who are making billions out of rich individuals who have been make to believe that it is a safe and profitable investment with millions in return. Actually they are now threaten by Chinese art work. If a replica is equally good and cost 50 dollars instead of 50 million is worth buying. Yes, I agree that nobody should be cheated either by those who sell replicas for a real or by those who make billions from originals. Business itself is an art in which an individual is made to buy willingly unnecessary stuff. Art is an expression and the most powerful expression is a book, so buy books instead of colours. If you like colours then buy Chinese replicas for 40-50 dollars instead of spending millions. Buying expensive things has become a status symbol, for example buying branded products. Actually we all paying more just for the brand name and the same unbranded product cost less than half. This mindset is again created by marketing strategist and working very effectively.
2:46 that is insane some rich a##hole would pay $58,000,000 for that. My 9 year old daughter makes better art. There’s starving people around the world and somebody would pay that much for something like that… insane…
I know roscos.... I know Roscos, they look like crap and if you pay millions for painted squares you got what you deserve paint squares.. Who cares who made that mess....
Everything you see on the showroom floor is factitious, it’s all narrative . For those of familiar with the subject being able to forge a master work is an accomplishment. Michelangelo and many other of the great Renaissance master were great forgers .
This goes to show how art is not about talent, rather it's about perspective. A highly talented individual can turn out reproductions of art, yet why can't he use his talent and create original artwork of his own?! Because he has no perspective.
This artist does create his own work but like most unknowns, he went unrewarded for it. Chinese artists, given the sheer population size of China, would be a dime a dozen. All the perspective in the world won't make a difference if the stars don't all align. It takes luck. Can't tell me that only famous artists have perspective.
