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Forensic scientist Thiago Piwowarczyk and art historian Jeffrey Taylor PhD examine a purported Jackson Pollock painting and use their expertise to determine if the painting is legitimate or a forgery.
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@fickleme2257 5 лет назад

Now give them two real ones and tell them one is fake

@jorge8596 5 лет назад

They would 100% decide that one of them is fake, I'm sure

@2299mikey 5 лет назад

Fickle Me oh yeah the only reason they find fakes is painters don’t do enough research. The best forgers are almost never caught. In fact the best forger ever was only caught because there was an ingredient included in a paint that wasn’t listed on the label.

@yachtmasterfig 5 лет назад

Give them both fakes but ask them to choose one which is fake

@gzer0x 5 лет назад

If they’re good enough detectives, they will ignore the statement that one is real or fake, and simply do the job.

@crunch9876 4 года назад

2299mikey whats his name?

@dumbdoms 3 года назад

*If I ever get famous and people examine my signature, they'll be out of luck because my signature changes everytime I write it.*

@littlemissmello 3 года назад

same here haha but genuinely, they can still tell because it's less about how your signature looks but the angle and direction of strokes so even if you write it different every time, someone who's good at what they do can still tell.

@gsmarchand 3 года назад

And they will have examples of this happening because you are famous. It's fairly common I'd assume. People are inconsistent.

@DarthBane-zf8wv 2 года назад

They look at pressure, curvature, and relative sizes and spacing and take into account possible changes. Everyone writes with their own unique speed and pressure which is almost more important than the letters themselves.

@JaxLittles 2 года назад

@@DarthBane-zf8wv In that case, they'd have a lot of difficulty with my writing. My mood determines the pressure and the angle in which I write. I've had numerous moments of having difficulty recognizing my own writing, as I change how I even print my a's, if I loop my g's, etc. Sometimes my writing looks feminine with larger curves, sometimes it looks like chicken scratch. I always wished I wrote in a way that was consistent. The downside of having a chaotic mind

@shanegriffis4592 2 года назад

@@littlemissmello 7

@errr-iw4lz 4 года назад

Alternative title: 5 things not to do when producing a fake

@naayerhs7300 3 года назад

Innit, I might just do one but just make sure to do everything right

@nikolajrasmussen9573 3 года назад

Some of these things are difficult to avoid. If you're producing a fake, how will you make it look old? By buying an old picture and repainting it? Or by buying a new one and try to make it look old? Both methods will be caught. And how will you get a certification of autencity, without someone being able to trace it back to a dead end? I seems to me, like it would be impossible to do everything right no matter how much you knew...

@GardeninGrace 3 года назад

@@nikolajrasmussen9573 I mean people probably could get away with it on their wall but when it comes to its authenticity, it’s a fake through and through.

@himanirongona4084 3 года назад

You profile pic explains it better😂👏🏻.

@kota975 2 года назад

sooo true

@williamvouk2911 4 года назад

“He really doesn’t brush much anymore.” Well yeah...he’s dead

@ianfrankegordon8451 4 года назад

Lol

@scriptgee5176 4 года назад

Dark

@ic9459 4 года назад

Scripturium Guerrero dark humor like family guy

@laylanandao9673 3 года назад

It's dark and I like it.

@J.5.M. 3 года назад

Wellll you took the quote out of context 😄 He said at the time when Pollock started the drip paintings he wasn't really brushing any more.

@Mossssw 5 лет назад

*forgers furiously taking notes*

@SwiftVines 5 лет назад

i'm not a forger, but watching this video I just kept telling myself how easy it would be to forge something like this if this is all that they did

@lizbogonia 5 лет назад

Tags this under writer not breaking the law

@jasonwalker6285 5 лет назад

@@SwiftVines sure.

@SeychellesLover 5 лет назад

Thats what i was thinking lol

@SeychellesLover 5 лет назад

@@SwiftVines finding the paints would be difficult for older works theud be worth a lot

@fionapayumo4564 5 лет назад

Please find a scientist that can spot a fake friend

@thiagopiwowarczyk5630 5 лет назад

That is definitely much harder...

@Abdega 5 лет назад

I found one recently, but it was after the damage was done…

@101jir 5 лет назад

Well, you could use this video as a metaphor I suppose. Look at their history. That one pretty much speaks for itself. Visual inspection: what is their posture like? What do their nonverbals say? Ultraviolet inspection: Actively look for what they might be hiding. Fluorescence analysis: what individual attributes make up who they are? Finally, take one very close final look. Anything that they missed that hints they are being fake? Maybe this is great advice, maybe terrible, I just legitimately did this for the fun of trying to make it into a metaphor.

@TM-ox8cl 5 лет назад

A psychologist

@raragrace5040 4 года назад

You don't need an expert for this, just to take a step back and trust your gut

@elijahvillaflores354 3 года назад

They caught them with the document already, they just wrecked them at this point

@martavdz4972 3 года назад

Yeah, I think it´s because an expert´s analysis has to be as well documented and supported by proof as possible.

@montanaheaventush 3 года назад

yeah... lol amateur !

@ivanzivkovic7572 3 года назад

it's not just that though, even if the document is a completely obvious fake, they have to exclude the possibility of the painting still being genuine

@bfure1 2 года назад

@@ivanzivkovic7572 yep, authentic paintings with fake chains of custody is a very common thing as well

@maxpulido4268 2 года назад

Finding 1 inconsistency isn't enough. The document can be explained away.

@severito33 3 года назад

Next step is getting a ouija board and ask Jackson "did you paint this"

@elizabethshaw7472 2 года назад

"Uh, I don't remember. It's been a while."

@AdamBechtol 2 года назад

lol

@BVBMCRLOVER 4 года назад

Imagine dropping a can of paint and people psychoanalyze it for the next 200 years

@ivanlagrossemoule 4 года назад

"you just wouldn't get it"

@ohboy1113 4 года назад

200 likes. Interesting

@arbitrage2141 4 года назад

Lmao seriously though. I cant believe people call this chicken scratch art.

@CMyBigHarryBLLS 4 года назад

@@arbitrage2141 to each his own but I think people have over hyped his painting had he been an artist now instead of when he painted people would laugh at him and call him a joke tell me in wrong there are so many artists now that have at least equal skill than pollock but will never gain his levels of success imagine if he had to compete with the internet

@mattm7798 4 года назад

@@arbitrage2141 It's art...but is it genius or compelling art...honestly, to most people, no.

@brucelee42069 5 лет назад

>examines a Jackson pollock with a magnifying glass “Someone spilled something on this”

@philippg6023 5 лет назад

Underrated

@andicarusfell8387 4 года назад

That’s amazing 😂😂

@BaldMancTwat 4 года назад

5:15

@senza4591 4 года назад

I have a pretty good idea of who the guy is.

@dirkdiggler. 3 года назад

At begining of video: Wow that looks like a genuine pollock. At end of video: what idiot would think this is real.

@dinoschachten 3 года назад

True. Really cool stuff to learn here.

@StretchReality 3 года назад

Still, it’s not like this looks any worse then a real one. Is some paint just more “splattier” then others?

@shahn78 Год назад

@@StretchReality Pollack's stuff is horseshit. $100M for one of his drunken splatter session? Art selling at these price points are bought for shallow bragging rights and b/c it will go up in value cos others said so.

@syd7197 3 года назад

“We’re gonna call them, Sydney” *Why you gotta call me out like that man?*

@JokkeHimSelf 3 года назад

Rocknrolla reference...

@alexv5944 3 года назад

But you can see his name on the letter in 2:06 so....

@randomstranger7139 3 года назад

shhhh

@danny-li6io 3 года назад

Sydney Pollock is a famous actor

@anti-ethniccleansing465 2 года назад

@@alexv5944 It showed a last name. Syndey is a made up first name.

@TheEmerald 5 лет назад

These two guys could totally forge a painting and no-one would ever find out.

@AndyChamberlainMusic 5 лет назад

Yea, no one would ever be suspicious about two guys whose job is finding fake paintings trying to sell a painting...

@dust7962 5 лет назад

@@AndyChamberlainMusic Just get somebody else to sell it. A collector maybe. 100 million 3 way is a lot still lol.

@TheEmerald 5 лет назад

@@AndyChamberlainMusic I mean, did you ever watch Dexter? And obviously they wouldn't sell it themselves.

@FezoBadazz 5 лет назад

Watch white collar and find out 😂

@yadfaraidoon9977 5 лет назад

Great Meme Warrior provenance research would bust them

@kginmyheart 5 лет назад

Now I want to see them examine an authentic one

@codename9824 5 лет назад

kginmyheart Planning some diy later?

@TazTalksYouListen 5 лет назад

10:42 - "Duh-breeze!"

@bobby8012 5 лет назад

They already examined a authentic one otherwise they wouldn't be able to determine that this was a fake you dum dum

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 5 лет назад

I'm not sure there is an authentic version of this one.

@TazTalksYouListen 5 лет назад

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 - Again, I don't believe the OP was referring to an authentic version of *_this_* particular piece. And based upon their findings in this video, I think you can be *_very_* confident there is no authentic version of this one.

@lastfirst2241 2 года назад

This would be an excellent reality show. Walking the audience through different artists, their different signature styles. Interviews with the owners and how they came into ownership of the paintings. The investigations, and the owners' responses to finding out if their painting is a fraud or not. Make this show. With these guys.

@differenttakethanmost Год назад

These guys are amazing. Till their show is made - check out the BBC’s “Fake or Fortune” series. Forensics meets fine art- absolutely fascinating. Totally binge-able

@cweaver4080 2 года назад

"Was this painted by Jackson Pollock or a drunken hamster?" "A drunken hamster." "How can you tell?" "It wasn't signed."

@andrewborne7113 5 лет назад

So basically the forgers screwed up everything you CAN screw up when making a forgery.

@thomasfplm 5 лет назад

They didn't miss by using titanium.

@zainanwar9281 4 года назад

id say they succeeded since they've already sold it and the buyer got it tested afterwards

@bluebubble926 4 года назад

@@zainanwar9281 no, usually a buyer will have it authenticated before they purchase it

@zainanwar9281 4 года назад

@@bluebubble926 you;re talking about sensible people, idiots still exist and some people actually do just take the sellers word

@bluebubble926 4 года назад

@@zainanwar9281 I'm sure some do, that's why I said "usually". Most people who are around the art world and/or even have enough money to purchase a painting of that renown, know that it is best to make sure your painting is real. The most common practice is for it to be authenticated before you buy it (or sell if you are a decent person and don't know whether a family heirloom is the real deal.)

@mineuser5395 5 лет назад

I love art but $100,000,000 for a drip painting is just ridiculous.

@mineuser5395 5 лет назад

@Robin Nilsson true

@SouthEastSkateUK 4 года назад

@Robin Nilsson then why havent you

@nina-bh4nx 4 года назад

It's because it's a Pollock!

@HJima 4 года назад

Its an important part of art history, although how the art market works is a whole thing entirely, so not really the paintings "fault" but the investors and buyers for the price, it's investment.Is it wild? YES! But is it what it is. Investments, some at least for now

@inject5373 4 года назад

drip drip

@vic3586 3 года назад

"We received this painting by a client that chose to remain anonymous. We are going to call him *Sidney* " *proceeds to smirk* bruh

@joeboyd1964 3 года назад

"They spilled something on this..." You don't say.

@paradisepipeco 3 года назад

Uh-oh.

@buzzsawenthusiast1756 5 лет назад

They should try making they're own fake, using all of the information of what makes a bad fake.

@Kris_96 5 лет назад

Exactly..

@jellynutshell2509 5 лет назад

*their

@BracaPhoto 5 лет назад

They do. They just don't make RU-vid videos about it !

@no_alias_for_me 5 лет назад

Look up "Beltracchi". He faked literally every expensive painter... successfully. His fakes did sell on big auctions for millions of dollars. I bet he also faked a Pollock.

@jasonmraz7920 5 лет назад

They are already false reporting in many areas

@frozenthorn9619 5 лет назад

note to self, they can smell if you teabag a painting...

@BoneCity 5 лет назад

Good one.

@johnjohn7261 5 лет назад

Good one.

@gabrielcarrillo4703 5 лет назад

Good one.

@terach1499 5 лет назад

Good one.

@AetherSphere 5 лет назад

*G-good one.*

@oliver-yr1tt 4 года назад

In today’s episode of “Where Has Quarantine Brought Me Today?”

@a.mckenny6545 3 года назад

lmaooo

@lillian5667 3 года назад

Art

@cilantrocat 3 года назад

sobs in this was posted a year ago and still holds true

@HurBenny 3 года назад

How could you go through the whole process of producing a fake and mimicking a chain of titles, but not verify the date of death of the painter on your document ? A genuine older owner could have mixed the years remembering so far back, but a forger ? You wouldn’t take any chances...

@thesechicksdontevenknowthe3298 3 года назад

had a similar thought

@hannibaljustincase9985 2 года назад

I think the entire video was just a staged case to show some mistakes art fakers do

@justin8894 2 года назад

Because most criminals are dopes.

@MarkVrankovich 5 лет назад

It's upside down.

@fabiank4396 5 лет назад

Haha yeah it's so obvious

@TheLanceFrazier 5 лет назад

Yeah, I noticed that too...

@nunyabiznez6381 5 лет назад

Scroll up 8 comments.

@edselbester 5 лет назад

it’s just some fake painting anyway.

@benjamingring621 5 лет назад

Mark Vrankovich 7

@cynthiaaaa5204 5 лет назад

*examining a drip painting* "Looks like they spilled something on this..." Boy have I got some news for you..

@robertchacon3289 5 лет назад

hahahahahahah

@roskar 5 лет назад

hahaha That was my first thought. Modern art is a scam.

@LLPTV 5 лет назад

@Kristi Luchi whoosh

@roskar 5 лет назад

@Kristi Luchi - Thank you captain obvious, I watched the video, which was interesting, but does that make modern art legit? I don't think so. Sorry if your feelings are hurt over an opinion.

@bay_leaf1510 5 лет назад

R/wooosh

@QiWeiDong 3 года назад

I thought they'd have some hard time finding out that it's fake but basically they started roasting the fake starting at the first second...

@rachelsanchis 4 года назад

I kind of wish they did this with a painting that was better done.

@NateTDOM 3 года назад

I kind of wish they did it with a painting that didn’t look like it was made by a 3 year old.

@jjjjj8455 3 года назад

@@NateTDOM shut up

@NateTDOM 3 года назад

nah

@louieschauer3527 3 года назад

@@jjjjj8455 he’s not wrong though

@jjjjj8455 3 года назад

@@louieschauer3527 if you believe he is right then you are saying all abstract and emotional non skilled based art is stupid and bad which is not the case

@ericsong5155 5 лет назад

These guys sound like the type of dudes that cut you off mid sentence and question the reliability of your story

@BacadoTheSkoggy 5 лет назад

And we all love him for it

@Ghanemq8 5 лет назад

Matthias Tan no, just you

@nin2494 5 лет назад

Ghanem__q8, the valid method to correct Matthias is to phrase your sentence in this way: no, just you. Also, uno reverse card, just u.

@BacadoTheSkoggy 5 лет назад

@@nin2494 no u

@Ghanemq8 5 лет назад

Matthias Tan no w

@name1483 5 лет назад

Sydney: "This painting is a real Jackson Pollock" Forgery Experts: Pollocks!

@simpleminded1uk 5 лет назад

You can make the video on the condition that you let me sell it again before you release it!

@JuiceMade3603 5 лет назад

N o

@peter-peterpumpkineater4982 5 лет назад

Ba dum thshshshshshshshshhhshshshhsshshhhhhhhhh

@interruptuscontranatura1219 4 года назад

Oh, you! :DDDD

@morphogenetic_ 4 года назад

Me, a gremlin unable to even draw a circle: ha, that fake artist sucks!

@Krishnajha20101 3 года назад

Don’t worry. The "artist" doesn’t know how to draw it either.

@user-vz5wu8ty3z 3 года назад

@@Krishnajha20101 Lolol

@petiaivailova2563 2 года назад

You can paint something like this with a bottle of ketchup. You don't have to be able to draw.

@wopwopwallchonkyarm3217 2 года назад

Hehehehe smae

@maxpulido4268 2 года назад

@@Krishnajha20101 Just cause this one is abstract doesn't mean he didn't know how to draw.

@isabellacheeseman1600 4 года назад

I’m gonna use this for animal crossing

@alexski2271 3 года назад

HAHAHAHAHAHHA this comment is the best

@twisted_brain 5 лет назад

I’m hypnotized not only by the process but also how white his shirt is

@namsuzaija8240 5 лет назад

Holy crap, just noticed his shirt.

@Koloshow 5 лет назад

I thought it was a lab coat until I read this

@CrazyGaming-ig6qq 5 лет назад

It's fake.

@anmolsingh1926 5 лет назад

It's a tide ad

@thiagopiwowarczyk2220 5 лет назад

Thank you for noticing. I obsessively hand wash all my shirts.

@krypteia2 5 лет назад

Isn't it strange how we often value art based on who created it and not on its own merit?

@jyrn9410 5 лет назад

I think it makes a lot of sense. A painting is an expression of a persons specific character and ideas, and the artist gains recognition for his contribution to an art movement that people like. Would you pay the same for tickets to go see your favorite singer's imitator as you would for the singer him/herself?

@TheNinetySecond 5 лет назад

Only if you believe in nonsense.

@noname-vr9fs 5 лет назад

@@jyrn9410 cover bands are actually a thing and greatly respected in certain circles so yeah, if i enjoy the art I'll enjoy it I don't need it to be associated with some name.

@Exarian 5 лет назад

I think merit is overrated in general so...

@Getfuqqedfedboy 5 лет назад

art is just how the super wealthy move money.....

@Itachijaswal 4 года назад

I don’t know man, this guy himself could be a con artist but his accent makes it all believable

@GOLVEL 3 года назад

"Does it look cheap and crappy? It's probably an original" X-D

@Melogreen 4 года назад

The real crime is the price of the painting

@HJima 4 года назад

Its an important part of art history, although how the art market works is a whole thing entirely, so not really the paintings "fault" but the investors and buyers, it's investment

@choojunwyng8028 3 года назад

That's so ironic in the sense that extremely expensive pieces of art is commonly used for money laundering

@nelsonta00 3 года назад

@@choojunwyng8028 looks like this painting went through the laundry.

@OhFishyFish 3 года назад

Two words: money laundering.

@redsev4484 3 года назад

the real crime is to call it art

@eddyk3 5 лет назад

If you take a UV light to my bedsheets it looks like a Jackson Pollock.

@chickosticks9857 5 лет назад

Gross

@imtim2780 5 лет назад

eww

@cheesecakelasagna 5 лет назад

Sell it for millions.

@daveprice5911 5 лет назад

same... at least it's because I'm gettin some tho

@MultiPunci 5 лет назад

lmfao

@singlethreat496 3 года назад

I could watch these two investigators for hours. Utterly fascinating.

@harrisonmundschutz2654 3 года назад

At first I thought it was ridiculous cause it shows that the art connoisseurs care more about who made it than the artwork itself but then I remembered that’s how our money works

@chrismanuel9768 2 года назад

That's how Pollock got so famous to begin with. His art was worth nothing until he got some attention, then all of it shot up in price because POLLOCK MADE IT.

@dasfowler 5 лет назад

"This is *man with incredibly interesting name on so many levels*, and this is Jeff Taylor." Now that's how you create contrast.

@TheWTZ1983 4 года назад

The incredibly interesting name is Polish and because it ends with "czyk" its meaning is "son of a brewer", if it would be only "Piwowar" then it would mean "brewer" 😉

@pancraes 4 года назад

@@TheWTZ1983 cool but idc

@Gaiwen_Li 4 года назад

Furdy dur Turdy who asked you

@garnetsun 4 года назад

he is brazilian, thiago is a very brazilian name and it's not uncommon for brazilians to have slavic surnames, i had a classmate whose surname was rabczynsky

@plazasta 5 лет назад

never thought watching two people spot a fake painting was so interesting! Can we have more?

@oscard2994 5 лет назад

Search out "Fake or fortune" by the BBC

@plazasta 5 лет назад

@@oscard2994 oh my god thank you!

@fetB 5 лет назад

@plazasta 5 лет назад

@@fetB oh. ok. *walks away head down*

@fetB 5 лет назад

@plazasta hold on. Come back. I'm sorry. I was in a bad mood. I shouldn't have let this out on you. You can have all the expert explain things you want. I'll put a word in for you.

@eadghe 3 года назад

0:05 _"And THIS..."_ ...is the result when you snort different colors and sneeze it on the canvas.

@Duzzer_One 3 года назад

Yup this is absolute trash, at its finest I suppose.

@jackhumann8270 4 года назад

The fact that a $100,000,000 painting is so emulatable that you need dna and ultraviolet light to prove it as false is really sad

@LB-ou8wt 4 года назад

To be fair, all art is emulatable. People will study an artist, their style, and their art in such minute detail that the can produce high accuracy reproductions of all of the great artists. What makes the artist it not to copy, but to originate.

@georgeclarke630 4 года назад

Just because it is valued at $100m doesn't mean it's gonna have some sort of anti-replication system installed lol

@roninnib6635 3 года назад

@@georgeclarke630 yeah, but you got to realise that for that price you’d expect that It would be difficult to make, but what he correctly said is that it can easily be replicated. If you want I can go into more detail, just like the comment so I get the notification, you can take it back later if you want.

@roninnib6635 3 года назад

@@georgeclarke630 what would you like clarified

@kajinecat1359 5 лет назад

Just plug it into Turnitin lmao

@camelcaseco 4 года назад

Lmao

@quandaledingle113 4 года назад

[angry professor screeching intensifies]

@annette_lu 4 года назад

Thank you for reminding me to turn in my essay

@Circurose 4 года назад

Can relate.

@actuallydudethatwouldbesal7644 4 года назад

100% plagiarism

@11kravitzn 5 лет назад

Moral of the story: you can get a painting that is just as aesthetically pleasing as a genuine Pollock for a tiny fraction of the price. Go and get one, if you like that style, and enjoy it and be glad. Let the obscenely wealthy fight for ones that the famous guy touched.

@SuperShiki666 5 лет назад

Not really a study concluded that in a blind test where people were asked to choose between original works and fakes in the same style, the majority of people prefer the originals, you could just buy prints of the original though

@RadenWA 5 лет назад

Of course they prefer the original, but would they like it enough to pay _literally a million_ more for it? This art industry is not about taste anymore than it is about scam and money laundering.

@plokijuh5830 5 лет назад

@@RadenWA If you pay 1 mil for a painting then you've acquired a good that is worth 1 mil, and likely more. The price determines the value, not the other way around, and so you actually haven't lost any money with the purchase transaction, just transformed liquidity into another asset of the same worth.

@rippspeck 5 лет назад

Moral of the story: collectors don't care about functionality but sentimental value.

@jacobstaten2366 5 лет назад

It's called a Windows 95 screensaver. Pollock was a con man.

@Shrew-22O1 4 года назад

If you can replicate such a painting..it’s kind of like an art in itself 😂 I feel like replicating this would be a headache..

@chillfactory9000 4 года назад

Honestly forgery is a sort of art.

@_Fuscous 3 года назад

They didn't replicate anything, they created something new in the style of a Jackson Pollock painting and used simple aging techniques like dabbing a teabag on the canvas

@BladeRunner-td8be 3 года назад

You might be right but there is a famous art forgery ring that made millions after replicating hundreds of famous paintings. This group existed some 30 years ago in Asia and they had the skill to produce paintings on a sort of assembly line, replete with all the bells and whistles missing here. Cheers

@currymouse 2 года назад

I mean... It is just a bunch of squiggles

@sirtoadsalott6189 2 года назад

@@currymouse Squiggles made with feeling and passion✨

@thienbui5686 4 года назад

“What are you gonna do with an art degree?” This. Do this.

@michor10 5 лет назад

And this is bunch of squiggly lines... but's it's fake. Fake squiggly lines.

@IsomerMashups 5 лет назад

I snorted laughing when I read this.

@Jonathan-bu7iv 5 лет назад

So many fake random squiggly lines. Worth 100 million dollars lmao. Rich people had smart parents.. and then the never had to develop into fucntioning human beings and turned into gullible vegetables you can farm for money. I can't even glame the art community for using them.

@wormhunter6340 5 лет назад

Tiep it’s obvious you’re not an artist lmao. it’s obviously more than just random ‘squiggles’

@joellelittle9510 5 лет назад

@@wormhunter6340 No, it's really not obvious, and there's no need to get so snobby about it (especially with that username). That kind of elitism is why the art world is so mocked.

@wormhunter6340 5 лет назад

Joelle Little the reason why the art world is so mocked is because of uneducated morons like you, sweety :)

@thiagopiwowarczyk2220 5 лет назад

We are celebrating 2 Million views. Thank you all for the support and thank you Wired for the great production!

@sambaxrock 5 лет назад

Congrats!

@thiagopiwowarczyk2220 5 лет назад

@@sambaxrock Thank you!

@dedissimo 5 лет назад

I need to tell you this. I find your way of speaking extremely soothing and relaxing

@thiagopiwowarczyk2220 5 лет назад

@@dedissimo I am glad to hear. Thank you for the kind words.

@joralemonvirgincreche 5 лет назад

You have the best accent. What kind of accent is it?

@clxwnbii 4 года назад

Me after Blathers tells me that the painting I bought is a fake:

@dovalayn 4 года назад

i’ve been looking for this

@davidhunternyc1 8 месяцев назад

You guys are brilliant! Wow! Thank you.

@v1d300 5 лет назад

To confirm the authenticity of this video I need to meet these scientists, inspect the painting, the equipment used and smell the tea.

@maxh2421 5 лет назад

R u kidding

@Leo-zk9rd 5 лет назад

I just wanna smell the tea

@maxh2421 5 лет назад

That's some tea

@jonjohn855 5 лет назад

You'll need to trace back the authenticity of their education/experience as well

@luuvnote 5 лет назад

Max Hoffstadt WOOOOOSH

@BitsharkPlays 5 лет назад

The art of forgery detection is more compelling than the artwork itself xD

@CharacterDesign360 4 года назад

This was really cool! I really enjoyed seeing the process of how forgeries are discovered.

@JonHuhnMedical 3 года назад

When the forensic experts are a billion times more skilled than the artist they're studying.

@MsJavaWolf 5 лет назад

Just a random point, but why do people always say stuff like "he chose to remain anonymous, we will call him Sydney" and then the name is almost never mentioned again?

@lefleurdulmal 5 лет назад

I assumed that "Sydney" is some sort of inside joke.

@NoOne3234 5 лет назад

It's actually Sidney, which is an anagram for Disney.

@marshwetland3808 5 лет назад

Not even almost. It actually was never mentioned again. Maybe they call anons Sydney in their business generally, though. No doubt many of their projects have anon owners.

@briandoolittle3422 5 лет назад

Just to add; they may have actually referred to him many times during the recording, and those offhand statements didnt make it in to the final cut of the video because they were about the person not the painting.

@danmurray1143 5 лет назад

I was thinking the exact same thing; It's like we're soulmates.

@NateandNoahTryLife 5 лет назад

I would highly recommend "F is For Fake" if this is interesting to you... A lot of that movie deals with Elmyr de Hory who was one of the greatest counterfeiters ever.

@fictionalchannel 5 лет назад

There's a BBC series called Fake or Fortune where each episode endeavours to prove the authenticity of a piece of artwork presented to them by its current holder. They go through a variety of these steps as well as traversing around trying to discover the provenance of the paintings. Definitely worth a watch.

@vb8428 5 лет назад

Yeah, not gonna watch it...

@joansmith69 5 лет назад

@@vb8428 ok

@tobiasadams1504 5 лет назад

I might watch, thanks.

@NighteeeeeY 5 лет назад

If you guys havent seen it, watch Beltracchi: The Art of Forgery. This is really the greatest counterfeiter *EVER* . Hes insanely good.

@jojoorsmth 3 года назад

Them: how to spot fake art. Me in animal crossing: Redd will never get me now!!

@chrismanuel9768 2 года назад

If you know what the piece is supposed to look like the fakes are pretty easy to spot. There's always some RIDICULOUS alteration that sticks out like a sore thumb. Unless that was the joke, in which case I just got the joke and I'm sorry for being overly serious

@arthurmont-morency5027 3 года назад

i would watch an entire series of these two guys spotting fake paintings

@lethok4084 5 лет назад

this is genuinely interesting content and i love wired for that

@AxxLAfriku 5 лет назад

WARNING I am the unprettiest human alive and I need YT to afford my house and the desires of my two girlfriends so please observe my highly stimulating videos, dear letho

@lethok4084 5 лет назад

@@AxxLAfriku k.

@fahim102 5 лет назад

@@AxxLAfriku Weird plug, but ok.

@BlitzzGames 5 лет назад

@@AxxLAfriku weird flex but ok.

@crackysr2961 5 лет назад

When it’s on it’s side it looks like a giant pop tart

@certifiedsecurityguard3473 5 лет назад

Cracky Sr 😂

@ash-ws5mq 5 лет назад

Cracky Sr it does. or we’re both high

@NemoConsequentae 5 лет назад

*That* explains why it looks like tomato sauce & mustard are spilled on it! And the tea.

5 лет назад

you used 2 ''it's'' yet only one of them was used correctly :/

@cheesecakelasagna 5 лет назад

@Poptart

@diveinnjim 2 года назад

I'm loving Thiago's $20 watch, its an absolute classic casio,

@gracerose5832 2 года назад

Thanks, man! I'll remember to take this into consideration when I sell my next fake :) helped a lot! ❤️ Lots of love

@aidanandco 5 лет назад

sydney really messed up this time

@travelsandbooks 4 года назад

Damnit Sydney

@sinkvenice4438 5 лет назад

That cheeky little grin he gave when he said “we’ll call him Sydney” was adorable. It’s a good joke.

@professionalpainthuffer 3 года назад

@xirsamoht x the joke is that Pollock's first major gallery showing was at the Sidney Janis gallery, in NYC.

@ribbontoast 2 года назад

I love how this fake is so bad it can be used to explain every fake detection technique because it trips almost all of them.

@Billy123bobzzz 2 года назад

Excellent, informative, thank you!

@AmericasComic 5 лет назад

People with that type of accent can’t talk about using lasers without sounding evil

@photonicpizza1466 5 лет назад

Too bad nobody in the video has a German accent.

@nielsrisolo7548 5 лет назад

@@photonicpizza1466i agree i think i was thinking about his accent and it could be italian i have an italian friend she talks exacly like him

@NShores 5 лет назад

According to his Facebook page, Thiago Piwowarczyk lists his hometown as São Paulo, Brazil.

@marinavilela6303 5 лет назад

@Luiz Guilherme Amaral He's not butchering anything. He has an accent because he is not a native speaker, but his English is very good and you can understand him, which is what matters. There's nothing wrong with having an accent.

@sergiosaunier 5 лет назад

Thiago is Brazilian. His english is remarkably good, albeit with a distinctive Brazilian accent and cadence.

@Lenysea 4 года назад

This video is making me want to re-watch the 'White Collar' :)

@Rebecca-vd4ww 3 года назад

Neil was definitely much better at forgeries than whoever did this one 😂

@FaeLordArveyn96 3 года назад

Literally just finished RE-WATCHING it lol.

@andrewzanoni2681 3 года назад

@@FaeLordArveyn96 it’s NOT ON NETFLIX!!!

@FaeLordArveyn96 3 года назад

@@andrewzanoni2681 Correct lol. It is on Hulu!

@jselectronics8215 3 года назад

How to Steal a Million, Audrey Hepburn, Peter O'toole, Hugh Griffith.

@ImeneTalk 4 года назад

I like the way Thiago is speaking.. very slowly and accurately..

@grantflippin7808 3 года назад

"pfft, I could do that" "But you didn't" "Fine, I did it" "Pfft, that's worthless junk"

@FTWcrashtest 5 лет назад

It’s good to see g-eazy branching out into other fields

@jreills0502 5 лет назад

It’s almost like splattering paint randomly on a canvas is fairly easy to do and replicated

@andrewhernandez1509 2 года назад

I wanna see more of these guys!

@scout6436 4 года назад

I love how Wired can be funny, but they also get experts in and produce an informative video where I learn something

@MagisterVeritas 4 года назад

Found some Jackson Pollock on my pizza the other day.

@oooof2996 3 года назад

good one

@simpleminded1uk 5 лет назад

"Well it looks like a Bob Ross but there's no video of his painting it."

@EnriqueDominguezProfile 4 года назад

3:16 Loved the little Paganini phrase on the xylophone.

@thesun4003 3 года назад

When you need an expert to tell the cheap and expensive garbage apart

@bjently 5 лет назад

Imagine a show like the Cooking Channel but where artists make these and are judged based on authenticity

@simpleminded1uk 5 лет назад

'This so-called carrot is actually a parsnip dyed orange'

@theWanderer521 5 лет назад

if I am right, Pollock had influential people (rich, well known modern artists as well) around him when he started - so with marketing and referrals - his value soared. if he never met them all of his works will be just squiggly and random paint all over the canvas

@TheAce12570 5 лет назад

I doubt it. Look up his paintings, there's an artistic value to them, and there were plenty of painters through history that died in poverty and obscurity but whose works were recognized after their deaths - Van Gogh would be a pretty well known example of that. Besides, Pollock painted plenty of paintings that weren't "squiggly random paint all over the canvas", as you put it, but rather done in more traditional styles.

@909sickle 5 лет назад

@@TheAce12570 There may be artistic value to them, but there is not much talent. Almost anyone could do a moderately convincing Pollock fake, but very few could do an equivalent Van Gogh fake. That's not to say Pollock did not have talent. But he's literally dripping paint on his famous paintings. They were famous precisely because of the shock value of how little talent is in employed in this style, and no one would have cared if not for the publicity driven by the acceptance of the modern art community.

@JamEngulfer 5 лет назад

Fun fact, in a study, participants (art students and psychology students) preferred modern art painted by an artist over similar looking paintings done by a mix of children, apes and elephants at a rate of about 70%. It may *look* like just a bunch of squiggles, but there's a reason his paintings are so popular.

@NyaMoon_ 5 лет назад

JamEngulfer everyone who thinks a little bit about where to put a dot or a stroke could do this, that’s not talent

@Excludos 5 лет назад

@@JamEngulfer What about male adults with no talent? Of course there's going to be a difference between kids paintings and an adult, no matter how talentless the adult is. They're kids! I painted a square sun when I was one!

@jennifernorman9655 3 года назад

It was the use of staples on the canvas that convinced me! :-) Super, thank you.

@dtiydr 3 года назад

11:20 "This is actually a unknown kind of painting that Pollock made on his deathbed and have never been seen until this day, we are very happy to have discovered this!"

@user-ck2us7wn7w 4 года назад

I would love to watch a movie with a story of someone who outsmarts these people and actually end up getting a lot of money for the fake

@niklaskraus1030 4 года назад

There are some

@Zsazsaa 4 года назад

Just watch " Beltracci"

@rebecadiasreis 4 года назад

There's an entire series(White Collar) about it and other art crimes... Sometimes it's kinda predictable but it's really funny and worth the time

@eugenia7722 4 года назад

White collar is a series that pretty good!!!!

@elwyn5150 4 года назад

Don't watch "Who the f#@k is Jackson Pollock?" It's unclear if it's a fake or not but she held out for more money and got nothing.

@TheMovieMyLife 5 лет назад

Attention to detail at its finest.

@DungeonMetal 5 лет назад

Naw that's my mum.

@Calm2134 5 лет назад

when they're using UV lights, only 1 of the flashlights is actually on.

@melt129 2 года назад

I bet these guys are so good at those spot the difference games

@marcomatos1268 3 года назад

Thanks! Now I know how I can forge a painting for my next auction!

@dorsparkle 5 лет назад

My favorite kind of crimes. Art forgery. Idk why but it’s so fascinating

@nunyabiznez6381 5 лет назад

Probably because the only victims of art forgery are ludicrously wealthy people who are stupid enough to buy something that is pure garbage.

@robertascott2305 5 лет назад

Agree Sarah Dorman. To create the believable forged art one must have excellent artistic craft skill. Maybe not the inspiration, the creativity to create the form, the way of seeing. Then there are the scientists of authentication, looking into the history of the myriad of components speaking to potential authenticity - or lack. I’m an art lover as well as science nerd. Good fun here.

@StrawberryNinjaNibbles 5 лет назад

Are there any good documentaries / movies / shows about it?

@doperfreak1 5 лет назад

Ill tell you why- Its price.

@ryanfinco6849 5 лет назад

the other reason why you may find it fascinating is that a great forgery has to be as good visually as the original, it has to be a perfect copy of a style that the forger has to learn to mimic. It takes incredible skill to forge a painting.

@RJrules64 5 лет назад

5:09 "It looks like they spilled something on this" YOU DON'T SAY?

@klsksosuejk 3 года назад

Pollock's paintings may not be the most beautiful art pieces, but they have a superpower If you show them to anyone who hasn't studied art you'll hear a thousand voices screaming "A TWO YEARS OLD COULD HAVE DONE THAT" and I think it's culturally significant

@MrGhostTheBigRoast 3 года назад

I dont get it, must be stoopid

@daemonthorn5888 2 года назад

Because it's true.

@IATEALLTHECHEESE 2 года назад

I have studied art. My parents are artists, as is one of my siblings. My second cousin is an illustrator. I'm an art student too as well. And, it does look like a 2 year old did it

@lasvegasmiddlebetslots 2 года назад

This is crap and a 2 year old could do better

@IATEALLTHECHEESE 2 года назад

@@lasvegasmiddlebetslots yeH

@garfeeble 3 года назад

thanks for letting me know what to avoid

@slimkt 4 года назад

Wasn’t there a documentary about a guy that donated tons of forgeries to museums and galleries a few years back? It was pretty astounding how many he got away with. Although, I think it was more due to the fact that he evaded deep analysis like this rather than that he managed to replicate pieces precisely. EDIT: It was called Art & Craft and it covered a prolific forger Mark Landis. Would highly recommend if anyone is interested in forgeries.

@theworldoverheavan560 4 года назад

@dan cussin lol

@sarahk8053 4 года назад

@dan cussin Donating art to museums is a very common way to get tax benefits.

@debrachambers1304 Год назад

I also recommend F for Fake

@DrAdnan 5 лет назад

Idk why the originals of these are even worth so much

@dutchik5107 4 года назад

He was first. Also pretty sure he was already an established artist. Also great for washing money. And for rich people to get huge tax cuts.

@HJima 4 года назад

Its an important part of art history, although how the art market works is a whole thing entirely, so not really the paintings "fault" but the investors and buyers, it's investment

@Chironex_Fleckeri 4 года назад

@@dutchik5107 you don't know anything about tax codes...

@dutchik5107 4 года назад

@@Chironex_Fleckeri buy something. Donate something to a museaum. For charitable donations you get to not have to pay as much tax and it's great for your image. Yeah i don't know everything about the AMERICAN system, because I'm not murican. Hence my name.... no need to get all superior feeling about it.

@phant1795 3 года назад

Money laundering for the rich

@Tepenahs 3 года назад

Why does a Jackson Polluck painting sell for $100,000,000 but a Joe Schmo painting that looks similar is considered a "fake" and sells for a small fraction of that? Art pricing is clownery.

@Sparkles._. 3 года назад

its cause of the artist. I took an art history class. does it make sense no but its just cause of the artist

@HOVNA 3 года назад

Really its about the artist. You can replicate a Michelangelo statue and it will never reach even a small % of its original value. Its the original and its historically significant therefore it will retain great value unless the whole civilization collapses .