Allowable Defects in a CGC 9.8 | Before you Submit Comics to CGC, WATCH THIS!

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Bindery tears 1/16” or less 8:51
Spine Ticks?!?! 11:29
Slight Waviness 16:34
Miswrap 18:05
Spine rub from shipping 20:57
Slight color rub 22:35
Summary of allowable defects 25:00
Remember: A CGC 9.8 is a "nearly perfect collectible with negligible signs of manufacturing or handling defects."
This video is all about what defects CGC will allow and still award the grade of 9.8. It’s important to note that CGC has not published it’s grading criteria anywhere. Any information about this out there is strictly anecdotal from collectors that have hand on experience through often many PAINFUL submissions. So the information in this video is from my personal experience, because as you can see, I have A LOT of CGC 9.8 slabs, I’ve done A LOT of CGC submissions myself and I’ve bought a lot of 9.8’s over the years so I have a really good idea of what CGC will consistently allow in a 9.8. So the books that we’re going to look at are books that I’ve submitted with a prescreen, books I’ve submitted without a prescreen, books I’ve bought from other people, books from across many different submissions, books that were submitted a few months ago, and books that were submitted years ago. The reason I mention this, and the reason it’s important is that these aren’t just defects that passed in a single submission where CGC was having an off day. That still wouldn’t really make sense because 3 people evaluate the book before it gets its final grade. But nonetheless, these are from submissions over a span of years so that we know it is consistent, reliable data. In order for a defect to make it onto my list of an “allowable defect in a 9.8” I’m going to need to see at least 5 examples from books in at least 2 different submissions.
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@secretjedi2938 3 года назад

Mate, this video was great! I've held off sending to CGC through fear they would be rejected. I'm in the UK so it's a lot of effort sending them. This is the best cgc video I've ever seen.

@PartyMcFly89 3 года назад

This is great stuff, as a new collector it's hard to know where to begin with cgc submissions. But this helps a ton! Happy New Year!

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Happy new year!

@danielmendez9373 3 года назад

Probably my favorite RU-vid video right now about comics. Very insightful and helpful when we’re out there hunting for potential 9.8s. Awesome stuff!

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thank you!

@ThereCanBeOnlyVaughn 3 года назад

I still feel there’s some inconsistency with the grading. I’ve sent in books that get 9.2, 9.4 and 9.6 with what you’ve shown as 9.8s. Looking at the graders notes, there was hardly anything letting me know why this received the grades they got. So it’s really hard to understand what’s correct and what’s not.

@michaelhernandez2868 3 года назад

This was excellent. I learned so much about grading in this 1 recording than in the last 10 years. I didn't completely understand how cgc determined a book is a 9.8 'til now. Thanks for putting this one out.

@NoCoastComics 3 года назад

Great rundown video. The subjective nature of grading is tough but you definitely help make it a little more scientific. Like many, I've had 9.8s that look like 10.0s in every way. Maybe someday I'll get a 9.9 or 10.

@DiewithZero62 3 месяца назад

Super helpful. I am thinking I likely have a few more 9.8s among my Bronze and Copper books than I thought just a few hours ago. 😎 Really appreciate you doing the heavy lifting on the murky world of grading.

@tristanrujano 3 года назад

This was the video I was looking for! I have some popular books that have binary tears and I thought it was a deal breaker, but turns out it's still possible to get a 9.8!

@phable_one_collection_down 3 года назад

Thank you so much for making this video. You have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for someone to break it down like this. Now I can confidently grade my books better. I always had a feeling I was over grading and now I’m certain of it. Thanks!!!

@YahWeh-uw5kz 3 года назад

I was on cgc and doing a 9.8 pre-screen and saw this video, which I'm glad because I was so wrong about what was allowed. Much appreciated for making this clearer!!!!! Keep up the awesome work.

@manuelharper1155 2 года назад

You are the best my brother I appreciate all your wisdom and advice keep on helping the community like you do

@stillunluckyusername 3 года назад

I think this is the most helpful video you published so far, nice job!

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@randyrobbins3393 2 года назад

I’ve got a ASM 300 with less color rub than that and it was cited as the reason for it being a 9.6 no ticks or anything. Absolutely perfect.

@robcook8456 3 года назад

As someone will be submitting to cgc fir the first time this is very helpful in selecting the books I will send. Thanks!

@BoysBarn 3 года назад

Very informative, thank you for doing this. Now I need to go through my supposed "9.8s" again before I consider submitting anything.

@str8swish538 3 года назад

Actually there is a video cgc has, I believe on their site, on the grading process and how they arrive at the conclusion for the grading. The whole process is explained in great detail. I will try to provide a link.

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Please do!

@amekomidarake 3 года назад

@@BrysComics He might mean this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-do4lDEzkULQ.html&ab_channel=CGCComicsCGCComics

@WeLoveComics 3 года назад

This is a GREAT video and you explained everything really well. SO many people think that a 9.8 is flawless. Thank you for this video, I added this to my favorites list on my channel. Thumbs up :)

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thank you so much!

@WeLoveComics 3 года назад

@@BrysComics Keep up the good work :)

@stephenbyce 3 года назад

This is the best video on this subject I've seen. It's funny as these defects would kill a sports card grade

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Yeah they’re way more strict huh? Probably because it’s one tiny card and not a whole book...makes sense

@josequintana3669 3 года назад

You took good time and care on the details, which is commendable. I used to submit sports cards to PSA, SGC, and BGS decades ago. You are correct on declaring the subjectivity of the process. It does come down to the persons grading the item. I have a few 70's issues I plan on submitting to CGC, but simply for keeping in my personal collection. I'm gladly subbing to your channel. Please do continue to focus on the truths of the industry...and the fun it does bring to you and us.

@comicjourney 3 года назад

This video helped clear up a lot. Thank you

@Snitchols 3 года назад

One of the most informative videos out there on this. Thanks for sharing. extremely helpful for first timers like myself who will be sending in books to CGC soon.

@dylanschultzable 3 года назад

Informative, well articulated video! SOLID stuff. Thanks!

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thank you!

@tegarparamartha202 3 года назад

nice info about that bindery tears! iam glad thats an allowable defects!

@thehypecollector3693 3 года назад

Awesome video bro, I’m new to comics & grading wanted to submit some in to CGC this video answers all my questions 👍🏼

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Very nice!!

@james2506 3 года назад

Super video. Real refreshing content. Subscribed.

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Welcome aboard!

@Rubberand4skins 3 года назад

As I learn more about what is allowable and/or not. I have come to realize that the final deciding factor if the HF(human factor). We can send in what we believe is a perfect book, but it will all depend on the individual grader. Good Luck.

@nicgreen7154 3 года назад

I had wondered if color rub on the spine would completely ruin chances for a 9.8. Great video, thanks!

@rodneysamson1686 3 года назад

Best video I’ve watched breaking down allowable defects. I’m walking away feeling that many of the 9.8s shown could of easily been 9.6s. It’s all on the graders discretion

@TheSoundlotKids 3 года назад

Great info and loved that you showed examples of the defects!

@GovernatorAO 2 года назад

This was an amazingly helpful video. I havent collected comics since my teen years in the 90s (only purchasing trades now and then) and have started to get back into collecting, so this is a new world for me and really helps me understand what to look for. Thank you!

@spyderpaul314 3 года назад

Thanks man. Been collecting for quite a while, and this helps clear up my understanding of how some defects affect grading

@tonybloomfield4772 3 года назад

Thanks for all that info. Only done two submissions so still learning. Appreciate your insights.

@jeffcorpse 3 года назад

Explains a lot of what I’ve seen! I’ve bought lower grades that look great but may be hard to see through the case.

@keyngdomcomicscontent 3 года назад

Well done bud. I know your info to be 100% accurate based off my own submissions. Your rub and tick portions were especially insightful.

@FedorSaku 3 года назад

Great vid. I learned a lot, I have a lot of keys I am gonna start submitting to cgc, and these eased my mind. Thanks for the knowledge and the hard work to make this video.

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Just make sure you use prescreen 👍

@vader4543 3 года назад

I have seen 9.8s that are not centered, have a lot of spin tics, have binding that is misaligned and yet I can find a 9.6 that has no evidence of this. At the end I'm gonna buy the 9.6, it's half the price and looks better

@spinnerrackstudios 3 года назад

Interesting video. The color rubs you showed at the end of the video are unacceptable at 9.8 in my opinion. I have 9.6's that befuddle me as to why they are not 9.8's and vice versa. Quite honestly, why people chase 9.8's and pay exorbitant prices for them is beyond me, because the difference between a 9.8 and 9.6 is so negligible that it borders on silliness, especially when considering the inherent subjectivity of grading.

@shhteviebishop9475 3 года назад

Great information. I have a nice copy of Star Wars: Heir to the Empire #1 that I’ve always wanted to get slabbed but was worried about color rub down the spine. I might have to take a chance on it.

@mrbungle333 3 года назад

Ton of great information. Spine rub has stopped me from submitting several books. I have to rethink those

@kevinanderson3753 3 года назад

Great stuff! Not a new collector but newer to the grading part so this helps immensely

@richwujek3250 3 года назад

Great info to know when determining which comics I should be submitting for grading! Especially about the bindery tears. Thanks!

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@elcrotamuth 3 года назад

Thanks for the great information. Great video! I look forward to many to come. Have a good one!

@manuelharper1155 3 года назад

Hey thank you this was the video I needed to see because this industry is getting crazy with the cgc style thank you for pointing out everything I need to know you're amazing

@BrysComics 3 года назад

👍💯

@notanarchitect 3 года назад

Awesome Video, super helpful!

@SBAVoltronProdt 3 года назад

Super helpful. Working on my grading skills myself as much as I can. The mid grade is what’s tough for me to see where things kind of fall for older books

@nathanwalls461 3 года назад

Found you on IG (Im DurtyDogs3, was in your cgc wheel spin) Love the content and one of my favorite content providers now! Keep up the good work!

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thanks man!

@CollectingPlastic 2 года назад

Great video dude, lots of useful information for someone new to graded comics. Super interesting.

@danielmarquez2447 3 года назад

Wow, your so knowledgeable about grading. Thank you for the information. Will looking thoroughly through my books before submitting my books

@953dave 3 года назад

Excellent video Very well produced

@jesusdejesusjr.6991 3 года назад

Awesome vid buddy thanks again 🤙🏽

@fancysinigang_tk 3 года назад

Just found your channel and this video was awesome man. Like many have mentioned, I'm also looking to submit my first batch of comics to CGC for the first time and have been looking to as much research as possible before I do. This has been one of the most helpful in that process. Subscribed!

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thank you!!

@bscomicsandcollectables4353 3 года назад

This Video was Great! Very Informative. Loved the example videos. Awesome man! Thanks for doing this one. AWESOME Books!!!

@best9642 3 года назад

Great video, I loved how you took the time to explain the delicate details thank you.

@Mickey.Anthony 3 года назад

This video is amazing! Great job on all the hard work you put into this!

@YeezieComics 3 года назад

Good stuff. More like this. I'm about to start submitting and this helps. A lot more is allowable for a 9.8 that I thought.

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Glad it helped!

@adamgroves5289 3 года назад

great info thanks again! going to be doing my first submission this month and this will help me loads

@Caseshells123 2 года назад

It all comes down to the grader if he/she is having a good day. If they are pissed at life or sick or being sad your book us screwed if it has any minor defects that would usually get a 9.8 your getting a 9.6 or 9.4. It’s life

@crzdcolombian 2 года назад

This is a great video. I haven't been sending comic with binding tears because I thought they would be backed pretty hard tho last few years of comics they all seem to have them.

@zophar1001 3 года назад

Awesome video. I really appreciated the detailed explanations and presentation of each. I definitely will be subscribing!

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thank you!

@timothywenhold3227 3 года назад

Great overview and details.

@yamothersfavouritefarmer2787 3 года назад

Amazing ....I've sold a lot that would prob have been 9.8...but this vid has saved me selling more. Awesome.

@davesdungeon9893 3 года назад

Wow I learned alot. Thanks Bri fantastic video, saved it to my Comic Book playlist👍🤔😃🔥🔥🔥

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thank you so much!

@richardfavaro2021 3 года назад

Very well done , learned a ton of applicable information . Thanks!

@comic_you_tank8512 3 года назад

Best content anywhere brother!

@oliverortiz8507 3 года назад

This was very detailed and will be a definite guide in the future.

@matthewmorrow4011 3 года назад

Thanks,that was really helpful.

@gabrielpotter6454 3 года назад

Great content. Preparing to send my first big submission and I’m stressing. This video was a big help Bry.

@jerryfox5341 2 года назад

Great information thanks. You did a great job with this. My problem to is defining fine and very fine. Maybe you could a similar video on that? Thanks again.

@davecironelibrarykid 3 года назад

Long awaited / Much requested -- no joke! really informative!

@JoseRodriguez-bu6vo 3 года назад

Well put together, very informative video, thank you

@thirtyacres7504 3 года назад

This was very helpful for finding key back issues on eBay. I always ask for plenty of pictures that cover the whole comic book. I don't just settle for auction photos already uploaded, per your advice from another video. I'd rather pay the 9.8 slab than get a raw copy and throw money away. But now, I know what to look for. I've always passed on copies with that spine color rub, but now I know that it is negligible. Although I've seen 9.6 slabs that I swear looked like a 9.8. Given it doesn't have interior issues, I wonder why the "judgement" of the book can differ so much with a 9.8 that can look like a 9.4.

@brucemanley4733 3 года назад

Another great video......on point with topic discussions so far!

@pcorey182 2 года назад

Great video the two defects that I personally don't consider ever achieving a 9.8 is multiple spine ticks/color break and color Rub I consider those a 9.6 or lower, if I'm paying a lot of money to get that 9.8 book I always buy from someone on eBay that allows returns as if I get a 9.8 book that I paid 200, $300 or more for and it has either those defects I'm returning the book I don't consider it personally a 9.8 on the flipside I've gotten a lot of 9.8 books that are virtually Flawless and should be higher grades so at the end of the day there's low 9.8 grades and high 9.8 grades it's all what you're comfortable with what you collect if you're a 9.8 collector. Another great note a lot of books that were graded pre-2008 9.4 and 9.6 we're graded very strict back in the day I actually purchased some I've seen in person at conventions and have cracked open resubmitted and got it back graded 9.8

@morningmorgan6341 3 года назад

It’s not how they come off the press, they are put together in a bindery, usually on a stitcher. We used to run dc and Archie comics where I used to work. It’s usually from dull blades and machines running too fast, too slow, or jamming up.

@Supertomscustoms 3 года назад

CGC removed their more detailed grading criteria (which was basically Overstreet) a couple years ago because they didn’t want to have to explain themselves when they make mistakes. When they’re looking at anything over an 9.0 it should no longer be subjective. A spine tick is a spine tick. 1/16” is 1/16”. There should be nothing to debate.

@monstermax6927 3 года назад

Thank you. This was super informative and helped a lot!

@justinsena2558 3 года назад

Thanks for all the great info! Very helpful

@ShowMeTheMendozas 3 года назад

Great video, great information.

@scottl8450 3 года назад

Very helpful!

@bronzevillecomics2581 3 года назад

I feel better now about my spine rub books. I was noticing it a lot with DC comics that I’ve been reading from 2010 (yeah I’m a little behind in my reading) especially with card stock covers. Now I won’t feel so sad - it was starting to bother me even knowing that I would never submit these filler books for grading.

@sirloifior 3 года назад

Thank you sir!!!!!

@chadnelson1150 3 года назад

In that older book, those slight waves are typically from humidity....and from pressing. Great video though. In depth.

@chrishill1604 3 года назад

Very helpful

@joecasagranda8587 3 года назад

Super informative. Great video👍

@jstruss1 3 года назад

very nice insight on spine ticks! something that i did not know

@noobovsky420 3 года назад

Bindery tears are from the folding machines being set too tight.

@Rorysammy 3 года назад

I have a crain venom 7 that came back a 9.8 despite one very clear color breaking spine tic

@matthewduffy3337 3 года назад

Been waiting for this one! Thanks for the info 👍 😀

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thank you for watching!

@tycoypinkstoncomics5512 3 года назад

Great analysis. Thanks homie

@craigcastillo1071 2 года назад

This was such a great video thank you

@davidnix1590 3 года назад

Bine dairy?

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Bindery lol, small tears on the spine

@etb3rd 3 года назад

Great info and hope you have a great new years

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thank you! Happy new year!

@Tom-gp6oy 3 года назад

I agree with @ThereCanBeOnlyVaughn I had a 9.8 Ultimate Fallout #4 with several spine ticks I felt was a 9.6 or less, and I had a 9.6 Darth Vader #3 Larocca Variant with virtually no visible flaws that I was sure would come back 9.8. There was no notes given on either. A CGC grader has also said they spend less than 1 minute on each book, so they're not exactly pouring over every detail, and I kind of doubt their claim that 3 people always look at each book...They're only human, I don't expect them to be perfect all the time, but their 3-person redundancy is meant to be a net for errors, and sometimes it seems like more slips through than is reasonable. Although admittedly, there is also a natural negative bias here, in the sense that I (and most collectors) probably focus much more on perceived errors than successes, so that the exact level of CGC's inconsistency is hard to determine. Your video still seems like a good general guideline for what might be allowed in a 9.8, so thanks for making it. I have another idea for a video, if you haven't done it: find some 9.9's or 10.0 if possible and the nicest 9.8's and see if you can find any difference. I bet no one has ever resubmitted a 9.9 (lol), but if they did, I'd bet a large amount it would come back 9.8. Given that there are 9.8's you can find with virtually no visible defect, I have doubts CGC can consistently grade a 9.9-10.0 without knocking it to a 9.8. I could be wrong, but that's how I feel.

@mrbungle333 3 года назад

Love those SiKtC behind you

@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 года назад

First, a couple of critiques: How can we say they have the industry standard for grading.... when we don't know their grading criteria?? lol. They are the industry standard in terms of brand recognition, but calling them the standard for grading cannot be done until we have a transparent grading criteria made public. You stated the Thor 4 probably would not hit a 9.8 if it was coupled with any other defects, simply because it had the waves, yet right before that you showed the MTU 141, that had multiple spine ticks, waves, AND that front corner crinkle. According to everything else you showed off and the standards that you are assuming, that MTU 141 should be no higher than a 9.6. Now that I'm done giving you a hard time (lol), really great job on the vid man. You've done your homework and presented your findings in a very sound way. Still, I think it's a shame that WE have to play detective in order to find out what CGC's grading process is. Ultimately, I'm not as optimistic as you are with their consistency, and as they continue to grow, I absolutely do believe that transparency will be needed in order for them to sustain themselves. Great work man. Just found your channel as well, so keep on putting in the good work!

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Great points, I think we probably agree on everything CGC...as far as contradicting myself, I try my best but still fall short. Thanks for watching 👍💯✌️

@JernosComicsPopCulture 3 года назад

@@BrysComics Lol I hear you man! I couldn't let you off the hook easily though!

@newvillagecomics9124 3 года назад

This is all great information thank you for the contact you put out

@BrysComics 3 года назад

Thank you for watching!

@iangato3473 3 года назад

Why doesn't CGC just let it be known what their grading criteria are? Is it just so they'll get more submissions and more money?

@BrysComics 3 года назад

That’s a great question…maybe it would open the door to people arguing with their grading…

@iangato3473 3 года назад

@@BrysComics I'm willing to bet that people question their grades and complain already lol. I prefer full disclosure to guessing games.

@Thynqikan 3 года назад

you all should see the Harley Quinn #1 Hughes variant I have that is in a CGC 9.8 case that has 14 color breaking spine tics. Yes, 14! 2 of the spine ticks are very large, over 1/4" and the other approaches 1/2", the rest are all around 1/8th". I have a cgc 9.6 of the same book that looks far better with no notes from graders. I am baffled why the one copy is a 9.8. Total inconsistency of grading standards and it is very frustrating.