Alloy vs Wire-Spoked Motorcycle Wheels | Which Is Best?

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Which is better? Cast alloy motorcycle wheels or wire-spoked wheels? Here are the differences.
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@mboyer3124 Год назад

The way you edit so visually really improves your videos. Keep up the good work!

@yoshuavillar Год назад

Totally agree with you, I appreciate how Chaos' editing and story telling have improved for more entertaining content

@athiftsabit1208 Год назад

Yeah, as someone who followed him since the early days i really feel his edit improves a lot

@danangretno99 Год назад

Rust on the spoke thats just the enemy of spoke wheels

@mandrakejake Год назад

You can get stainless spokes and nipples 🙂

@TheRealSykx Год назад

@@mandrakejake stainless will still rust if they're not properly cleaned and maintained or exposed to corrosive chemicals. Only a thin layer of chromium oxide protects the steel from corrosion.

@mandrakejake Год назад

@@TheRealSykxdoes your cutlery go rusty? It depends what grade. 316 is very corrosion resistant, 421 isn't but it is stronger.

@Tamer374 Год назад

@@mandrakejake 316 still can rust, its just stain"LESS"

@mad082sss Год назад

Aluminium oxidises and corrodes if exposed to certain chemicals and the finish is scratched (sometimes the finish doesn't need to be damaged, depending on what the finish is). Neither are perfect, but each are worthwhile

@CorsairMaverick Год назад

I've always seen spoked wheels as sexier and way more elegant and beautiful, giving also a more aggressive look than the numb alloy wheels. I think this comes from me always seeing spoked wheels on my dad's bikes since I was a child. I must say that your argument about how alloy wheels perform better on the road, made me reconsider them a bit, but then, If I end up buying a mid adventure bike, wouldn't be nice to have that 20% option to go offroad with spoked wheels? :)

@akali6858 Год назад

Nah bro, bikes are supposed to take us almost everywhere, unless you're a race track racer. So spokes for the win. 😆

@TheTwinPost Год назад

I've got spoke rims which come as standard on my Interceptor650 but got them converted to tubeless because of the constant fear of punctures during a long distance ride + the tedious effort required to fix them. The spokes feel alot more cushier over bad patches of road & they do justice to the retro look of the bike which is an added bonus.

@harshalshetty9865 Год назад

Just make sure you redo them every two years. I've got a gt650 aswell

@Ghøst_cod7720 Год назад

Tubeless on spoked or alloy wheels?

@CharlesHuse Год назад

I am looking at the Scram 411. I wish it came with alloys.

@JP-xd6fm Год назад

The new interceptor comes with alloy wheels and it looks bad on that bike, spokes are better imo. I got a Husqvarna vitpilen 401 with spokes and they are tubeless from factory

@x-man5056 Год назад

@@Ghøst_cod7720 Yes.

@darkraider8326 Год назад

Spoke wheels is strong and safe

@moteroargentino7944 Год назад

After having to deal with punctured tubes, water and dirt getting in the rim, constant cleaning and alignment for quite some time, I switched to tubeless alloy wheels and never looked back. True, they might break on a very bad day, but until then I'd enjoy all the benefits and practicality they offer. Plus to be fair, to this day no wheel has failed me (and I did hit some nasty pot holes). Even on a tourer I'd prefer alloy, since you spend most of your time over the asphalt anyways. Only if I wanted to go full rally mode and punish the hell out of my bike in remote areas I would pick spokes.

@leon.690sm9 Год назад

my ktm has tubeless spoked wheels stock lol

@CaptainTShirt Год назад

Spoke wheels are not just more beautiful, but more characterful too. Thankfully technology has not made them obsolete and they still have a use and I am happy to see them rolling around.

@thizzfox Год назад

The one HUGE elephant in the room you left out is "Trueing" (Not sure if im spelling it right) The spoked wheels is a nightmare. It isnt as simple as just tightening up loose spokes youre essentially changing the roundness of the wheel in that area with more or less spoke tension.

@Kraken9911 Год назад

On the other hand Balancing an alloy wheel is super easy

@r.i.p2464 Год назад

Never had to do anything on mine. I have 4 bikes with spoke rims and 3 of those bikes are 20+ years old. One bike had 150k+ miles and the other two had 20k+. I never did any adjustments except balancing when changing tires.

@Orakwan Год назад

@@r.i.p2464then you might be surprised to notice your spokes are way out of balance and discover what new handling your bike will have after you have them balanced

@r.i.p2464 Год назад

@@Orakwan everytime i change tires they put it on a machine that checks the wheel balance and they always check out fine. Handling is superb too which doesn't matter because i barely push my cruisers hard on corners. I know you're not gonna believe me but it is what it is. Oh! and registering a vehicle here in my country is very strict. They put the vehicle in a Rolling dyno to check out the wheel balance too. If you fail that, they won't renew your bike/car's registration. I failed one time on my anniversary fatboy with an imbalanced front wheel which has an alloy rim. It has something to do with my tires and not the rim but my point is that the machine they used is quite strict in its parameters. If they detect a small shaky, bouncy or wobblyness your vehicle will fail and you can't renew registration until you sort it out.

@Orakwan Год назад

@@r.i.p2464 what you mentioned is called weight balancing, it doesn't affect the wheel roundness and tension that all spoked wheels need. Just try to have it done and you will see what you missed. Sure, it will run without, and maybe you won't notice any difference. But then why care about any maintenance at all. It will run even without changing the oil.

@johannkwanlaw Год назад

I have the 2019 Vitpilen 701 instead of the 2020 Vitpilen 701, which comes with alloys instead of spokes in the 2020. I prefer my alloys for my kind of riding.

@timtouchstone6139 Год назад

It might sound strange but one reason I love the spoked wheels on my GS is I enjoy maintaining them. Spoked wheels are an engineering marvel and now the newer ones can even be tubeless! Cast wheels are great but require little care/maintenance.

@gloamingoddish2878 Год назад

Great work as always. Love this kind of video edit reminds me of old youtube finding detail reporting a topic and giving information in 5 - 10 min

@direproud7824 Год назад

I'm with suzuki ts 185 a wire spoked wheel, having good performance on corner, off road and with a beauty too.

@Richaag Год назад

Being an old guy, the days of jumping and off roading are long behind me. While I’m thankful I can still ride, I’m limited to street bikes and preferably ones with a neutral riding position. So I’m currently on a 2022 Versys 1000. I’ve had to bid farewell to my wire wheel days.

@HairyMTB Год назад

Harley cast wheels are made from Freedom Alloy .... come on man, get with the program :P

@ChaosCauses Год назад

Haha sorry I missed that one. I was just impressed that Harley has discovered round wheels!

@HairyMTB Год назад

@@ChaosCauses 🤣

@crabbykronos7647 Год назад

Spokes look better but the tubeless spokes on the new Harley endro style is the best wheel ive seen

@Slycarlo Год назад

Alloys are much better in Paved road it is more stable, Spoked wheels are much better in offroad.

@peterbigblock Год назад

My Triumph Speed 3 has alloy wheels of course. But I really want a dual sport or ADV, which will have spoked wheels. I love the look of the latter on the right bike.

@ArcticJeff Год назад

Agreed. Both have their place - mag for the street, spoke for dirt bikes, dual sports, (some) ADV bikes. BTW, if I was looking for an ADV bike, I'd only buy one with spoke wheels (as they come in both flavours of wheel type).

@VishalJN Год назад

I'd surely go for spoke wheel than a alloy wheel. But given the amount of work you need to put in to clean them i rather have a alloy wheel. Also fixing a puncher is much harder in spoke wheels..

@x-man5056 Год назад

It is a bit tedious to clean spoke wheels. Hire a kid to clean them. The trick is to just keep them clean. Plus once a year with chrome polish.

@BoycottChinaa Год назад

Tubeless on a 2002 bmw adventure w spokes was first bike and still have it with two sets of rims that swap in minutes.. great until very steep muddy hill, all else it's perfect

@EliteRock Год назад

I can still remember Yamaha switching to cast wheels on the RD (RZ in the US) series with the 'D' iteration (c. 1979?). They were nearly 2lbs a piece heavier than the spoked steel-rim ones. The public was convinced they were "better" (functionally and presumably aesthetically) but actually they were just cheaper and in fact arguably inferior - unsprung mass on such light bikes is a serious consideration. Now that cast are actually on a par or lighter I'd prefer them on any bike with more than about 80hp, but otherwise a set of alloy rim / stainless-spoke wheels can't be beaten for looks.

@mmorlan1481 Год назад

Excellent Vid as usual. I have a 2020 VSTROM 650XT with spoked wheels. Looks great to start but quite frankly , impossible to clean well (I ride a lot). Yes they my be good for off road jumping, but neither the rest of the bike, or my personal skeletal structure will cope well with anything more that a sprightly hop.

@nuur2825 Год назад

2014 Vstrom 1000 here. Done a decent amount of adv riding but mostly gravel and dirt with a modest amount of actually harsh terrain. The alloys on it have held up perfectly so far. So I think for most people wire spokes are just for pushing the bikes more than they actually ever will.

@marcbrasse747 Год назад

When I wasyoung cast wheels where just coming into vogue. So to me they still look like the future. Furthermore there is a lot more freedom in design. Throughout the years there where some really great designs. So I almost always prefer alloy wheels. An example of that is that my favorite team bike for quite some years was the square case Ducati 900 SS in blue silver livery with golden alloys. It was however never produced that way. The first alloy wheeled 900SS’ where black with gold.

@daveo9844 Год назад

I like spoked wheels. Just wish I was good at truing them 😩🍻

@julian23561 Год назад

Spoked for adventuring and dual sport, alloy wheel for dank wheelies and squid stuff.

@subhajitparia3251 Год назад

I don't have bike 😂 still watching your videos👍👍

@Spikeg7 Год назад

Spoked wins everything except truing and that's the only pro alloy has. Just add weights here or there and you're set.

@legion3100 Год назад

I have 1973 honda CD 50 cc bike with Spock wheel. I can't imagine any bike this old with Alloy wheels. But at the same time tube is a big issue for me . Often gets leak by road debris.

@doublecomm4185 Год назад

i have a supermoto on alloy wheels and they're doing great for what the bike is for however i would love a pair of spoked ones just for the looks

@Motovibes91 Год назад

So your supermoto is tubeless?

@06racing Год назад

Spokes are for bumps and jumps. Alloys are for smooth. Spoke life is a better life

@1683clifton Год назад

Damn, now I got fear of breaking my alloy rims effing around in the dirt. You did that Lol And as always, I was entertained

@adam346 Год назад

while it does depend on application, you can quite easily use both on either surface pending you are not pushing them particularly hard... this is a case of min-maxing and expectations more than anything. The CB500x, 390 Adventure and other smaller ADV bikes use alloy wheels and do just fine, just don't expect to be carving up trails like your dirt-bike friends. You can easily use larger ADV bikes with spoked wheels and carve up twisty roads but they will generally not be as nimble as a sports bike anyway, regardless of whether they have spokes or alloys.

@ajitpanda3190 Год назад

I have a KTM Duke 390, with stock alloy wheels. But i fancy a spoked tubeless wheel set.

@FlyingFun. Год назад

Spoked wheels are nice but a bit fiddly to maintain, spokes go loose and rattle and are hard to clean so for a road bike my preference is alloy.

@r.i.p2464 Год назад

I have 4 bikes with spokes. Three bikes are 20+ years old and none of them had loose spokes. My "used to be" daily bike had 150k+ miles on her but i never once did any adjustments. Nothing loose, no rattles. My other 20 year old bikes had 20k miles. Same thing! I never had to do anything besides washing them. Three of those bikes are heavy ass cruisers btw and they all have been used off road. Oh and i live in a country with too many pot holes. I once ran over a deep pothole and my after market spoke rim's edge got slightly deformed but the spokes are fine.

@FlyingFun. Год назад

@@r.i.p2464 that's good to know, I guess it depends on quality, I had a virago that spokes went loose after tire was replaced but wasn't hard to nip them back up. Heard a few stories about Harley Davidson spoke problems..

@r.i.p2464 Год назад

@@FlyingFun. the bikes i was talking about are harleys. 1 evo, two twin cams. My fourth spoke bike is a 2021 interceptor 650 but that bike is new so i cannot use that as an example. Oh and i forgot about my yamaha 4 stroke dirt bike that i sold to my cousin. As far as i know, that bike is still being used in his farm completely stock. I'll ask him about the condition of his spokes.

@CasualRiders Год назад

I've got cast aluminium on my '06 bandit 1200. I've taken them off-road too, and they still held up alright.

@adisteelsulawesi5184 Год назад

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@Pokkarix Год назад

Babe, chaos causes dropped a new video!

@phil4986 Год назад

Alloy rims are way easier to live with if you are not jumping your bike anywhere. I am glad you showed the spoke cleaning nightmare. Just get comfortable. Cleaning your spoked rims is going to take a few hours. And then you put on the wax, yea.

@greatkingrat Год назад

Spokes look better on my two retro classic bikes, alloys are easier for the two daily riders that I have.

@beborodner930 Год назад

Which looks better? Spokes! Unless you have a single sided swing-arm..

@ChaosCauses Год назад

MV Agusta politely disagree...

@yveslegrand9826 Год назад

The leading edge of rims is carbon ... Lighter, stronger...but it cost the price of a fancy motorbike... and changing the tires is not a local bike shop type of job

@Plow-b1x Год назад

Tubeless tires, get a flat on a trip, put in a plug and keep on going. I love retro, but I also like to get where I am going as well as getting back home. My adventure bike has spokes with tubeless tires. Until you ride on a trip or if you are interested in riding, ask someone you trust.

@johnlaw5762 Год назад

I have an R Nine T and spokes on retro or modern retros just look the business to me. That said, I have polished the spokes with a shoelace and metal polish before which is…”challenging”. To put it politely

@NoGlockTrucker Год назад

My shadow phantom has spoked wheels. I wish I could find some alloys for it.

@lukecrowster1231 Год назад

I’m gonna go with spokes😅 but I’m biased I’m converting my ktm 530 to Supermoto just need to get spacers machined

@michaelvachon1334 Год назад

Thanks for covering this. I have multiple bikes with a mix of spoke/cast wheels among them. Some bikes, like my '99 Valkyrie Interstate would never be able to have spoke wheels simply because of the bike's weight. One of the bikes, a 2014 Honda CB1100 DLX has cast wheels, which is not in keeping with it's retro-bike look. Honda did see fit to switch back to spoke wheels on later CB1100 models (perhaps after being called out on this?) As noted by your vid, both wheels have their benefits. Over time, I've learned how to rebuild/repair spoked wheels, and find it to be an enjoyable challenge each time I do one. Ride safe all!

@johncunningham4820 Год назад

Lacing them up is fairly straightforward . Getting them to run True is the Tricky bit .

@michaelvachon1334 Год назад

@@johncunningham4820 I actually enjoy lacing AND truing bike rims. I have a few videos related to this on YT.

@someguy9520 Год назад

Afaik, higher end spoked wheels are still roughly the same weight as alloys

@1panic0 Год назад

My Benelli BN302 has aluminum wheels, my Benelli TnT125 also, but i have been thinking to change the 125's wheels to spoke wheels just because i want it to look weird with them and also because some spoke wheels have very nice colors.

@You_Are_Forgeven 2 месяца назад

I have a tenere 660 2008 and it has thick spok wheels

@MCTeck Год назад

Forged aluminum wheels, [example OZ] and Tubeless spoked wheels should have been mentioned in this vid. Having ridden motorcycles with tube wheels, and being stuck with many times a with a flat tire, I will never buy a bike with tubes again unless it i dirt only and I can haul home on a trailer or back of a pickup truck.

@kianschmeling3893 Год назад

On my motorcycle it has spokes and I definitely prefer the tiers with spokes.

@John_Ridley Год назад

Hardly even an exaggeration on cleaning time. The spokes on my VStrom got really bad and I've so far spent about 6 hours with shoelaces and metal polish to get them up to barely acceptably clean. I still need to spend at least another 2 or 3 hours on them.

@TheSpectre223 Год назад

I've got cast wheels on my Honda Magna, and spokes on my outgoing Bonneville. The casts suit the Magna, are period correct in its style as a retro rather than a classic, and I'm very much looking forward to the easier maintenance. However, I have seen pictures of Magnas on spokes and they look sick, so I'm not against swapping over later down the line.

@1sttimegunowner Год назад

Bro the spoked wheels on magnas look so sick!!! Been debating on getting them for mine

@stiffpants Год назад

@@1sttimegunowner get spokes for sure. The Magna is a sick classic shape. Have you got the v30 or v45?

@1sttimegunowner Год назад

@@stiffpants i have a 98 v750 not dure if its the 45 or not

@K1989L Год назад

I had a Yamaha Dragstar 650 with spoked wheel. Like it should be. I recently saw a bike that at first glance I thought was a dragstar too. Very similar design but… it had very ugly alloy wheels. 🙅🏼‍♂️

@QuickJoe Год назад

I got spoked tubeless tires on the Honda X ADV 750, awesome spoked wheels. Have a look and you will see why they are special.

@richbrock9876 Год назад

I’ve got a 2021 Honda crf and the spokes and nipples are corroded already. It’s done 3000 miles over 18 months and I’m shocked at the poor Honda build quality

@ioandragulescu6063 Год назад

well I liked spokes until I recently saw that I have a small wobble on my back wheel .... on a 90% street bike (V Strom). I'm shallow I guess :))

@VishalRSuri Год назад

Hi, i have Alloy rim on my Motorcycle but I prefer Spoke wheels .. only if I can hv best of both worlds, Tubeless Spoke wheels 😢😂

@jonathantatler Год назад

My spoked wheels are great but for one thing..... Apprilia decided to use bare metal spoke nipple's! Stainless spokes, alloy rim and rusty nipples, great 😮

@kingkong81icloud Год назад

Spokes are better, all the bikes I have had with mags on are imported from Europe to England, , i like spokes better than mags

@vengefulbird6918 Год назад

Ive got a 1975 honda xl250 and a 2002 bmw f650gs dakar both on spoked wheels with the same tires

@Chris80 Год назад

I bought the Moto Guzzi v7 850 Special instead of Stone because of its spoke wheels.

@JOlsen_LV178 Год назад

Honestly for some reason I’ve always visually disliked spoked wheels, alloy wheels are one of my favourite things about road bikes, particularly when the black.

@edcgadgets-de Год назад

Aren’t cast wheels older than 80s? My dad has a BMW K100 from the 80s with alloy wheels. And it is/was not even a fancy bike.

@rstrooh Год назад

for chrissakes can you stop saying "hence why".....they mean they same thing and it simply makes you verbose!

@edwindelfin6793 Год назад

Wire spokes weight mostly in the hub,in the middle part of the assembly. Does that have and effect on performance?

@cheny6489 Год назад

Hi Chaos Causes, which spoked wheels are tubeless, for Husqvarna 401 ?

@RUBY-mo2kr 4 месяца назад

But did you know spoke wheel can handle the weight of the cargo in the Philippines motorcycle with attached sidecar used spoke wheel for centuries because is counterweight all passengers like 4 or 5 people that's why it's super efficient for everyday lives

@alexys16 Год назад

don't ever change your bike..the MT09...i like your videos..it is easy to do a corelation having the same bike

@j.r.arnolli9734 Год назад

My, 1992, RS100 has spoked wheels, because I prefer the looks.

@JamesDickson-vs5of Год назад

Looking to fit spoked wheels to 750 zephyr, for the z look , this would be compatible?

@flippy6553 Год назад

I love white walls tires and spoked rims..... on someone else's motorcycle 😂

@TheOmniscientAtheist Год назад

My Speedfight2 has alloys (because it's a scooter) but I love the look of spoked better.

@robertorios8267 Год назад

im traying to figure out how much expensive a wire-spoked wheel can get if it is constructed with titanium wires and a carbonfiber rim ( and tubless tires)

@ScubaGG Год назад

Spokes on supermoto 17' tubeless. Alloy on SM is just wrong visually

@thorstenmetalhead9666 Год назад

But Carbon... 😢

@emrankabirsubarno9761 Год назад

The alloy wheel in my bike which is i used since almost 3 years but spoke wheel better than Alloy for it's flexibility and long life i think.

@ryanwoods5836 Год назад

My motorcycle's 55 year old spoke wheels have what I like to call a "light patina" 😅

@timm1583 Год назад

Spoked wheels for anything retro or adv/off road all else I prefer alloy but damn are my adv bikes tubeless spoked wheels a pain in you want them to be actually clean and lets not even talk about the additional maintenance spokes can be

@davidlight4659 Год назад

I would want spokes, the roads where I live are awful pothole patched with lumps garbage

@jeffblack7711 Год назад

A steel cast style wheel would be heavier, but steel can flex and endure the off road punishment. No spokes would be nice

@a.r.t.4611 Год назад

I prefer alloy wheels. Much easier to keep clean, and no maintenance. And, to me, look much better on a road bike.

@Teejay_2000 Год назад

256 days in and i have almost cleaned my 100000 spoke wheels, nearly there.

@shhmule Год назад

Supermoto wheels are the sexiest of all! Just not very practical for everyday road use.

@nightdipper5178 Год назад

Spokes are steel, Steel is Real. My rims are not made out of bud light cans. Supermoto is supreme.

@theNZSPY Год назад

Yeah, prefer the look of the spoked wheels on my Retro Moto Guzi, but yes I hate cleaning them. But I have friends who have cracked alloys on their sport bikes hitting and unexpected pot holes.

@m.i1343 Год назад

surprised u didn't mention the balancing of the spoked wheel.

@bobu32 Год назад

ah thought you were gonna swap the MT wheels to spokes haha

@puebespuebes8589 Год назад

As alway, old stiff is made to be abused, new stuff is made to get that 0.01% advantage in this situation

@TobiasRieperGER Год назад

My past bikes had spoke wheels. Only the last 2 had alloy wheels. You forgot an important part, spokes need service. Every spring i tipped every spoke with a tool to hear the sound. If they are all the same, no problem. If there is one with another sound, i had to tighten it with a special wrench, till the sound is fitting with all the others. You do this without load on the bike and tyre in the air. So you need a kickstand or something similar.