We (detectorists) are basically unpaid volunteer garbage collectors. We remove pounds of trash from parks and beaches. Why anyone would stop us is beyond me. 😂🤷
The last time I detected on that sand pit a couple years ago, someone automatically thought that I was doing paid work for the city. At least some people recognize the benefit!
I hear you loud and clear! 95% of what we find is trash. I think that there is jealousy to see someone finding things with a device that they don’t have.
In my state they don't want you to remove super old artifacts. In most state owned parks and other places near me, you can only hunt for modern coins and jewelry. But people breaking rules all the time are what messes it up for everyone else
Thank you! The pause at the beginning where I was silent for a moment after he asked me to stop was my internal doubt and anxiety saying "well maybe I should just leave then...😞" but I'm glad I decided to be confident instead, we'll call that personal growth haha.
Good job on handling that awkward employee. Letting them know that not only are you not damaging the area but also helping them clean up goes a long way.
I'm thankful these incidents haven't been too common with me, the majority of interactions I have are fairly pleasant although I would prefer people leave me alone entirely haha.
I have had people call the bylaw office and police on a few occasions. The best day was when a uniformed bylaw officer stood about 20 feet away during the first days of Covid while I was digging in a park. I didn’t notice him at first but he really surprised me. I thought that I was busted . He said “ I have been watching you for two weeks now and I have one question to ask!” I thought that he was going to ask me who gave me permission but his question was ,”Are you finding anything?” He really put me at ease and gave me confidence to remain where I was.
Yeah you've got to focus on the positive encounters, I had a similar experience with a very nice park ranger when I was out detecting a dry lakebed by a popular campground.
New subscriber here. Great video! I can to some extent understand park personnel saying that they don't want the ground dug up, but you handled that interaction very well, and saved the next detectorist from being told "You can't do this here". I look forward to watching your other videos.
Welcome Aboard! Thanks! I've only had a couple uncomfortable interactions with people like that and they always seem to be inappropriately exerting authority they don't actually have. My interactions with personnel who actually have real municipal authority like Park Rangers, Police or City Parks Employees have always been quite pleasant and they've never caused me any grief. This just shows why we shouldn't let private companies run their own parks..
Here in Rockford, IL the hobby of metal detecting is pretty well dead now. The best parks and areas that were good for MD are cleaned out over the years. It used to be free of permits back in the 70's but then the city added a $3 permit per year to go into city parks ,etc.. Since then permits have gone up every year. Now they want $30 per year to go into city areas that are pretty well cleaned out of artifacts. They also made a lot of the used to be good areas restricted for MD. I can understand golf courses but a lot of the other areas like Sports Cores that are now restricted make no sense. Sad thing is there are no good beaches in this area either. Bummer!
You gotta love it. A person who admittedly says that they don’t understand metal detecting, and that “There is no treasure here”. Yeah, sure.. she has no idea, lol
Once someone loses something valuable they will be looking for a metal detector guy to help. They won't be so rude. I think it's nice that you are cleaning up trash and finding cool stuff. I love it more when some of the metal detector guys can find people's items back.
You are very patient. I would have just ignored him and carried on until they called the cops and then discussed it rationally with the cops. It's easier to talk to them most of the time
That's a pretty immature thing to do lol. I mean it was a pretty straightforward conversation. The lady didn't understand the hobby and figured he wouldn't find anything of great value. If he got kicked out of the park then really there's nothing he can do but leave. Thankfully he was able to reason with Karen 😂
I have also done this before and I will keep my Trash Bag's Still Somewhat full of Junk Target's and here they will come to bother me and I will show them my junk Targets and All the Sharp Junk that I have eliminated from people getting Stuck and There possible Lawsuit and They have left me Alone and then a few times they have watched the targets come out and Questioned about what I have found and are amazed if it's a Nail and also accused of putting it there and the lady is there watching you Now....
Yeah I've gone right behind the sifting machines that clean the beach, and it seems that they hardly get anything besides large trash, I still find all sorts of small metal trash so it really is only us who end up cleaning the sand of the really dangerous stuff!
A Or B. (A) Im thinking You got in on his game, figuired he would discourage You away. He probably has found lots of goodies there. (B) He is related to KAREN :)
There's no way that employee and his boss get paid enough to give a shit about metal detecting. I guess it's a good thing they aren't cops otherwise they'd go on mega power trips.
I'm confused, so this is an area full of sand only with log looking benches? What is it used for? Strange ordeal for sure, Bravo on how you handled this 👏 Ohhh now i see, tennis and various games being played. Ok. Got it.
It's a 'park' that a development company built on top of an old parking lot blacktop a few years ago. They own the entire flat area surrounding it but have thus far really dragged their feet in building anything that the city needs. They promised a long time ago as part of the land deal that they would provide the neighborhood with a park as part of their development, and after years of sitting around doing absolutely nothing with the space, they finally slapped this weird gated park together. The sand pit is just a giant box about 2 feet deep filled with sand, has a volleyball court on one end and a seating area on the other; the logs replicate how our beaches look in Vancouver, we have large logs all over the beaches for seating. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
I'm old and mean, that little weasel and who ever was on the other end of that phone would have known the law Verbatim by the time I was done with them. That was harassment plain and simple.
Very true, I've detected right behind the path of the sand cleaning tractors that tidy up the beaches after our big summer fireworks shows and still get pulltabs and bottlecaps right at the surface, they only really grab the large shallow trash.
That's why I don't detect when there's a lot of people around, There's always a self-appointed authoritarian around somewhere. When you said Vancouver that told me all I needed to know.
Yeah I think perhaps the maintenance guy misrepresented what I was doing when he'd initially spoken to her before he approached me, once it was clear that it was quite absurd to suggest no one should dig in the sand pit she backed off pretty quickly. This park has a bit of a contentious history with nearby residents, as it is technically privately owned by a development company. However the park exists as part of a development promise the company made to the city for their free use of the land, so I think it sets a disturbing precedent that private development companies can use city space to build seemingly 'public' parks and arbitrarily control their access like a private business would on a whim. Thanks for watching!
Such an awkward facepalm. “No, you can’t do that, there’s nothing in there” “Well, you might find the odd coin or *nail*” “Ok, I guess if that’s what you want to do. Maybe I don’t understand your hobby, but I guess it’s fine” 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼
"I don't understand what you're doing so it must be bad" she had such a sad and close minded initial response. I hope I helped them understand that we are not to be feared lol. Thanks for watching!
Normally yes, unfortunately this park is in a bit of a grey zone. It's owned by a property development company and was put in place as part of a deal they had with the city. So while the city is responsible for it existing, it technically belongs to the developer. I've complained about this park's policies directly to the city before (they have a mechanized gate that locks the entire park down at 10pm for instance), but the city told me they can't do anything because it's not technically one of their parks.
I think to be safe for when/if there is a next time, I would look up any city ordinances covering digging. Just because the guy cleans or rakes the sand in itself, makes him no authority or an enforcement personnel. Who's to know if he calls yet again as to who might be on the other end of his call - his friend or family member??? Where I live, we cannot dig in State or Federal parks. However, all city parks are fair game. Enjoy the hunt and see you on the next one 💯🤞💥👍😎🌞☕☕☕
I've checked with the city, there are no ordinances against metal detecting anywhere! You only cannot 'damage' the grass turf in parks, everything else is fair game. This park is owned by a major development company so it's 'private' even though it's a publicly accessible city park, a really bad precedent being set by the big development corporations to control more public city land I think.
@@ScoopyJoe - good deal as now you are well informed and empowered - way to go! Enjoy your treasure hunting and hoping every day is a fabulous one 👍😎💯💥🌟🤗☕
I hope you can get back out one day, these interactions are usually the exception. Most of the time it's a pretty quiet hobby, all things considered. Thanks for watching!
Yeah this park is weird in that regard, technically it's 'private' as it's owned by a development company even though it's on what anyone else would consider a public city area.
@@ScoopyJoe That 1 time where you're by that log, you kept on digging and digging and digging, and you were just shoving your detector in the hole. Well, you could have just used the pin pointer, stop it so much faster
Not sure what you mean, I fill in every one of my holes properly, it's just not always entirely visible on camera. Since it's just sand, there isn't much I can do beyond kicking the sand back in the hole and stepping on it... What should I be doing? Thanks for watching!
Politics has nothing to do with this interaction. But if you want to make an association, I'd argue that conservatives are much more likely to display this kind of behaviour.
You did exactly right, kept calm, please call, help yourself. I've had the law called on me so many times. LOL. They just tell them to mind their own business. If it were the state park they have rules but a silly local park nope.
Thank you! Just got kicked out of an empty field adjacent to an IKEA recently, no signs indicating no trespassing, no fences or anything, literally just an empty wild sandy field because it was 'the site of a future IKEA expansion'. Sigh...
You handled that beautifully. She even admitted you might find an occasional nail, you think taking a nail out of a place where people may go barefoot would be appreciated. Keep swinging 🧑🦯🧑🦯🧑🦯
