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Alpine Butterfly Loop Revisited Quick Tie Version - Alpine Loop Lineman's Rider Lineman's Loop Knot

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Also Known as Alpine Butterfly Loop Revisited Quick Tie Version - Alpine Loop Lineman's Rider Lineman's Loop Knot
Geoffry Budworth: This is a European mountaineering classic middleman's tie on.
The Alpine Butterfly Loop is one of the best loop knots that is tied in the bight of a rope. The loop is particularly strong and will hold from any point from where it is being pulled.
Due to the symmetry of the Alpine knot, it is easy to inspect for security.
This knot was originally used by Linemen and especially telephone engineers. "It is absolutely secure and will hold from any point from which it is drawn." (Burger).
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@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

To Tie the Double Alpine Butterfly Loop Click here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YrSScS48quA.html&index=0

@studinthemaking 4 года назад

What kind of rope are you using there?

@KnottingKnots 4 года назад

@@studinthemaking I wish I could tell you the make and model, just an off cut I was given. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@happykamp789 Год назад

this is the best explanation I have seen on how to tie this knot

@KnottingKnots Год назад

Thanks Happy, Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@stuartporter5428 2 года назад

I can confirm that quite a few times, I've entrusted my life to this knot, tied in exactly the way you describe. That method is the easiest way to remember it without getting it messed up. I like this knot because it is so secure, yet so easy to undo.

@KnottingKnots 2 года назад

Yes, I totally agree with what you say about the Alpine Butterfly. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@nadeemleon4197 6 лет назад

One of the most clear demo I seen clear and precise

@paulmilsaps4476 6 лет назад

Thanks, I was looking for a good way to put a loop in a line. And this is the best way I've seen.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Yes,this really is the quickest, most secure and easiest of them all. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@paulmilsaps4476 6 лет назад

I'm more of a practical useser of knots (camping, fishing, and general every day uses) your video's will come in handy. Thanks again.

@geoyoshinaka5251 5 лет назад

I have actually been using this very useful knot for a while now and had begun to wonder how to make a double loop, if such a loop is at all possible. A search on RU-vid yielded your clip "Double Alpine Butterfly Loop Quick Tie Version How to Tie the Double Alpine Butterfly Loop" and your elegantly simple way to make both loops, Thanks!

@KnottingKnots 5 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@geoyoshinaka5251 5 лет назад

@@KnottingKnots Oh, I the knots that I do know can be counted on my fingers, so I consider myself a toddler when it comes to knotting ;) However, these knots have each improved my daily routines already, so maybe "Practical Knotter" would become a fitting description in time... I had never paid much attention to knots until I suddenly saw how useful they could be. Necessity is the mother of invention, as they say, and in my case apparently also learning :) Your explanations and methods are among the clearest I have come across, so please keep your clips coming, Johnny!

@88woodbikes4 3 года назад

I’m new to this knot. Thank you for such a clear and easy to follow tutorial

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

Always good to learn a new knot. Sometimes, I new knot serves you better than one of your old ones. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@ephraimgarrett4727 3 года назад

Thanks, Johnny, because of you I'm becoming a real "knothead". 😀

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

Now I am beginning to feel sorry for your fingers!!! Does decorative knotting interest you?

@ephraimgarrett4727 3 года назад

@@KnottingKnots Yes. Decorative knotting is something that I'm just getting in to. 😊

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

@@ephraimgarrett4727 Oh dear, wait till you make your first Ditty Bag, you will be swearing like and old sailor and your fingers will be sore. They are a great way of showing off your current skill set, good luck on your knotting journey!!

@ephraimgarrett4727 3 года назад

@@KnottingKnots Thanks, Johnny. It gives this old fart something to do. It was either knotting or knitting...😀

@MonotonyTV 3 года назад

@@ephraimgarrett4727 Wishing you a very happy new year!!!

@jjjvclub 6 лет назад

great knot I use it all the time, mostly the twist method. thanks for sharing. love that new knife too.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Aha, you love my Myerchin Knife, it really is well crafted and a nice weight in my hand. There is a link in the description to view more example of the knife. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment

@philipgravestock402 Месяц назад

just found this video and must say the easiest explanation on the web

@KnottingKnots Месяц назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@stephaniebravo7773 6 лет назад

This is my first time watching your videos, thank you for sharing! God bless!

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thank you Stephanie for popping over and taking the time to leave a comment. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@mikeperry824 5 лет назад

Good video! I use this knot all the time, I do it slightly different I start in the hand, inside, outside, middle then outside around them all

@reallybig4868 Год назад

Thank you friend for your video. Seriously. Many thanks

@robertlauzon6916 3 года назад

Love the pace of the demonstration

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@jdc9528 Год назад

No pun intended "not coming undone".......................😀 Great vid! I learned a new knot today, that's not gonna' come undone. Thank you.

@KnottingKnots Год назад

Don't forget to "dress it smartly" 😉 😉 😉 Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@dankolar6066 6 лет назад

Nicely done. Thank you.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thanks, Dan, I always appreciate when someone leaves a comment. So thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.

@davidclements2635 6 лет назад

very useful John thank you

@rogerthomas1497 5 лет назад

thanks johnny easyist video to follow on u tube

@JamesPong888 6 лет назад

Thank you, very clear instruction.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@JamesPong888 6 лет назад

Hi I learnt knots major for camping use.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

It is very satisfying when you have to use a knot in a real life situation. You see a problem and then decide which of your favourite knot will do the job for you.

@kobetzl 6 лет назад

Very good demonstration. Thanks you

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@raeannuria5691 6 лет назад

This is a beautiful knot John! Thank you for sharing!

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Once again thank you for your kind words, much appreciated.

@shyamasingh3582 2 года назад

Very good celebrations thanks to you sir

@KnottingKnots 2 года назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@juanitagreenspan5412 3 года назад

so easy. thank you.

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

You're welcome 😊 Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@brucemorton13 6 лет назад

Thanks. I think I've got it, and agree that it will be easy to remember.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Yes, really easy to remember!! I take it that you are a practical knotter?

@VNSavedStuff2011 Год назад

Good instruction. Thanks for sharing.

@KnottingKnots Год назад

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@franck1806 5 лет назад

Very good explaination !

@smith6640 5 лет назад

thanks mate-spot on

@ericwhitlow7364 6 лет назад

Great video. I have been using figure 8 knot due to the ease and strength of the knot. Love this one as well.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

I think you will find that this one is easier to undo when it has been under stress. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and leave a comment.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Have just added it to my list of knots to learn. Expect a mention in the near future! THx

@bravo3541 2 года назад

Excellent presentation lad. slow and easy to follow. Thanks

@KnottingKnots 2 года назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@abrahamvaro5482 4 года назад

Very nice video ,thanks!!!

@KnottingKnots 4 года назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@youssefhussein1 4 года назад

Love it

@blaskotron 6 лет назад

Love this version.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@blaskotron 6 лет назад

Practical, I use some of these in camping and around the house items. My friends on our recent camping trip with very impressed with a blake hitch used for an adjustable hammock ridgeline, a marlin spike hitch for a hammock strap that didn't come with existing loops, and prussiks for moving a tarp around to keep rain off our camp fire.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots being used!

@blaskotron 6 лет назад

I also found that on the last hand wrap if you lay it in the second position instead of the right position, you won't need to pull the middle line under the right line and save a step. You'd then wrap the right line over the left and through. This also applies for making a double loop alpine butterfly.

@MrGattor33 6 лет назад

Interesting video, seen this done before and was told it is safe and secure for climbing/repelling. Thanks for the video anyway!!

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Not sure why anyone would want to go off the side of a cliff. Yes, it would appear that climbers do love this knot. Are you a knotter?

@blindleader42 6 лет назад

Johnny Debt, It's not that you really want to go over the side of a cliff (but with climbers you never know). If you *need* to go over the side of a cliff, and wish to not go splat as a result... Here's an example from my long ago days as a climber: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Nc31eMw6L.jpg That isn't me in the picture, but it's something everyone who's ever climbed in Boulder, Colorado has done. It is truly exhilarating. BTW MrGattor33, "rappelling" is spelled like this. Repelling is something certain chemicals do to insects. 😉

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to share this information, I always love to hear about knots and cordage being used! Your photo also demonstrates quite clearly why this is not for me!!

@ianpayne1428 6 лет назад

Thanks will be very useful

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@dalehammond1749 2 года назад

Thanks, I need to use this knot soon in tree work. When comes to tying knots or mechanical things in general, I'm dumber than a box of rocks. Thanks again.

@KnottingKnots 2 года назад

Your not the only one!!! I originally started this channel so that I could remember knots..................

@scouterjamie 4 года назад

Hi Johnny, great video. My scout leader told me its used in mountaineering (“alpine” climbing?) in a situation where the group has to rope together, e.g. in poor visibility so the group doesn’t separate. If a third person wants to join the line between an existing pair, they can create this loop in the middle and join the line without anyone else having to untie. The created loop could either be used as a hand hold, or for attaching to a climbing harness with a carabiner.

@KnottingKnots 4 года назад

Thanks for letting me know how you use it. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@tikisailor 6 лет назад

For me, this is the clearest explanation of an Alpine Butterfly on RU-vid. And you speak so clearly even a Texan can understand you. Thanks.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Well hello Texas! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@tikisailor 6 лет назад

Johnny Debt I was looking for a specific knot to use on my sailboat (glorified canoe). I want to rig a line that can be hung on the side of the boat to use as a foothold. I think this Alpine Butterfly might be just the thing. Thanks, again.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

It certainly should do the job well, if you can please send a photo here: bit.ly/yourknotwork would love to see it in action.

@Perktube1 3 года назад

@@tikisailor where in Texas?

@chrislee1070 3 года назад

That's that made the loop easier to tie cheers

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

Yes, this method is much easier. You may also be interested in the Span Loop, nice and easy to tie and untie: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--nuOHhZQ8ms.html

@slipknotsoad86 4 года назад

Fantastic mate, cheers!

@KnottingKnots 4 года назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@refaiabdeen5943 5 лет назад

Cheers Mate!

@Soothsayer210 5 лет назад

nice explanation. I believe you have done the correct way. You have shown the front side. You could have also shown the back side forming the butterflies and a clean X as a confirmation of the knot.

@KnottingKnots 5 лет назад

I am guessing that you use this for climbing, so you would need to know that. When I learn and then tie these knots, I sometimes wish that I could be out in the field where I have to use the knowledge!!

@cillaloves2fish688 6 лет назад

Awesome!!

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

This is so quick and easy, also the Double Alpine Butterfly Loop ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YrSScS48quA.html and the Alpine Butterfly Bend ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-h0NlB1xf-DA.html If you know one, you know all three! Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@Mostlyonoff 6 лет назад

This was the first way i learned the alpine butterfly As someone mentioned, similar to Farmers Loop method which is virtually unforgettable once learned ....L-R-L-R. The farmers loop is my go to in a truckers hitch because you can make it directional to one way or the other depending on which way you tuck it first In addition, a future vid could be on the Alpine Butterfly Bend. Right up there with the Zeppelin Bend but with tag ends coming out the same side

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Yes, the Alpine Butterfly Bend is on my list of To Do's and I will give you a mention when I do that one. Thanks again for taking the time to leave a comment. :-)

@MagicSkeleton 6 лет назад

Ah, this is better than the one I was using...thanks.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Better loop or way of tying? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@MagicSkeleton 6 лет назад

Better way of tying.

@stephaniebravo7773 6 лет назад

Practical!

@clayskelton6184 Год назад

I tried another method to make this knot, but with the stiffness of my rope it was very difficult. Using your method is by far better. Thanks. (I'll let you know if I fall to my death)

@KnottingKnots Год назад

If a knot is dressed smartly, it will serve you well. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@williamhogg7830 6 лет назад

I like SIMPLE KNOTS...….THEREFOR THIS IS GREAT!

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Yep, this one fits that category nicely. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@guloguloguy 6 лет назад

.......WOW!!!! I was ALMOST, at the end of my rope!!! LOL!!!

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Ah, but which end, the standing end or the working end? 😉 Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@guloguloguy 6 лет назад

I'm mostly interested in these knots for their great working properties. I wold like to use the proper knots, for doing occasional arbor work, and, perhaps, someday in some minor rock climbing. I work in construction, and we use several types of knots, on the job. It's always sad when I see someone trying to use a bad knot, or not knowing the better knot for certain applications. It's definitely a skill, worth practicing, occasionally! Thanks, for the Great demo videos!!!

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

I do not use knots as often as I would like, but when I do I think hard about which knot would be best for a given situation.

@robertcostales9037 6 лет назад

Thanks very EZ

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Yes, this really has to be one of the easiest that I have learnt. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment!

@travelwithdesi4846 6 лет назад

very nicely explained. thank you. but if u explain where it used like tieing to vehicle or object method would be more helpful.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Yes, I know what you are saying. There will be situations where you may need a loop in the bight of a rope, so that would be the go to knot. Also if you have a damaged piece of rope you could make it so that the damaged piece of the rope becomes the loop. This way your rope will still be strong, but the damaged part does not take any weight. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@paulromanes5128 6 лет назад

great useful knot. My question is it easy to undo after it has been put under load or stress..I think there is another option which releases quickly after load.?

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

From what I understand is that it is fairly easy to undo, just push against the two loops to start loosening> Thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment, much appreciated.

@Perktube1 3 года назад

Now I know two ways to tie this by hand.

@stephaniebravo7773 6 лет назад

Practical, I just need to tie a secure knot !

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Well that one is certainly secure, as climber use it. Thanks for letting me know.

@jfelds101 2 года назад

I like the knot and your method is the easiest I've found online. However, I would like to see the back side of the knot to compare to mine which has the two pieces of the bight crossing one another. I assume this is correct, but would love to know for sure. Thanks.

@KnottingKnots 2 года назад

Yes, I really must think about the back side, but yes, they are crossed. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@BobWidlefish 4 года назад

I saw on another video that you can shorten one step by wrapping the third wrap in the middle to begin with rather than moving the third wrap. Obviously a minor detail, though if you’re going for speed why not? ;)

@jamesanderson6783 3 года назад

I am new in rope tying and having a difficult situation in finding the best rope. What is your opinion of the best types of rope to learn knot tying? Thanks

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

I use something called "float line" also called "Floating Safety Rope" that I use for practising with. It is a braided line and not too slippery and is 6mm in diameter. The problem you have if you are just starting out, is that not all ropes are the same. Some are too soft and floppy whilst others are like wrestling with thick wire.

@kennethgranger9236 6 лет назад

My wife says, bet you can't do a bullion knot. But thanks for the tutorial .

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

OF COURSE I CAN!!! Just off to look it up, but don't tell your wife. Just got back from looking it up.......... embroidery, too small for my failing eyes! Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@djmj12714 6 лет назад

I almost always have a short piece of 550 cordage in my pocket... typically 1½ to 2 feet long. This, along with the constrictor and the double-constrictor, are my "fidget" knots. I tie the Alpine Butterfly knot a bit differently. The 3rd wrap around my hand goes _between_ the 1st and 2nd wraps where they cross my palm. (Those first 2 wraps will then form an "X" on the backside of my hand) Then I grab the rightmost wrap, pull some slack, and send it over the other two, towards my thumb, and under... like you're doing @2:31. After pulling out any slack, a proper yank on the "loose" ends will set the knot. Hope that's as clear as mud. BTW, I just found where I picked up that technique: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8BZWFTpkkIw.html

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

There is always some clarity in mud?? Not ;-) My fidget knots are, like you the constrictor, the marlin spike hitch and I always end up doing a cowboy or bowline from that, the Evenk hitch and the adjustable grip hitch.

@nadeemleon4197 6 лет назад

Have done other knots sir

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated. Are you more of a practical or decorative knotter?

@p__jay 4 года назад

How is that knot different to the more simple artillery / harness loop knot....?!

@Quakeboy02 6 лет назад

You can use the same method to tie two lines together. It would be nice if you were to put up a video showing how to do that. Essentially, loop around your hand and hold the bitter end between two middle fingers. Then take the bitter end of the other line between the two fingers and loop that one around. FInally pull the two bitter ends over around and through the two lines on your palm, just like you do the loop end in the video above. Voila, an alpine loop that joins two lines.

@kobetzl 6 лет назад

Practical sailor

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Thanks for letting me know, look forward to exchanging comments here in the near future.

@LowellBoggs 3 года назад

Sir, I noticed by accident that this method of tying the alpine butterfly loop can also be used to tie a bottle sling knot. After you wrap the cord arround your hand three times, then move the left wrap between the middle and the right wraps, then pull the new left wrap over both the others and back up underneath them (sliding along your palm) , you can then convert the knot into a jug sling instead of the butterfly knot. All you have to do is to NOT pull knot tight. Instead, pull the wrappings away from your hand - leaving a byte at the top and a circle in the middle. You may have to dress the circle a bit. Then turn the knot over and push the circle down on top of a bottle and dress the knot carefully to tighten on the bottle. I can make a video if that will help. It seems to grip very tightly if dressed properly and is a lot easier to tie than the normal instructions.

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

Ooooo, another way, off to have play. You can also do it from the Bowline: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fMDtu_imOxU.html Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@LowellBoggs 3 года назад

@@KnottingKnots thanks - I had forgotten that version. Thanks for all the great videos!

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

@@LowellBoggs Funny you talking about forgetting things, this morning I forgot how to feed the cat. Got his bowl and then put two spoons of coffee in it??? I am getting old..............

@LowellBoggs 3 года назад

@@KnottingKnots me toooo

@nadeemleon4197 6 лет назад

Sir I live in uk recently lost my house due to losing my job I’m trying to go far away in remote away from humanity with my girlfriend so I’m learning surviving skills obviously Knowing how to tie knots will be of paramount importance so I need to no the knots which will be important for camping

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

I what area do you plan to head towards? If this is the way that you are going to go, you must be looking at many different bushcraft and related sites. If there is one knot that I can recommend to you, it is the Marlin Spike Hitch: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3r2UjaV8SVg.html this one knot can do so much! I do also plan to update this video as I have found more. I would really love for you to stay in touch with me. I think of you as going on an adventure, not sure if you think of it that way?

@raymondferreri3151 2 года назад

Which is better... Alpine or Artillery loop???

@KnottingKnots 2 года назад

The Alpine is renowned amongst climbers as the go to midline loop due to is security. What are your plans for a mid line loop?

@dronsimon9069 Год назад

Austrian conductor English. Lineman's Loop

@kennethgranger9236 6 лет назад

I' m more of a practical nutter...oops....knotter. My wife is a knitter, and a very good one....needs to be with 3 going on 4 grandchilden. Best regards Ken

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

Good to meet you here in cyberspace. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.

@user-hk6hq9rd9k Год назад

ดูแม่งตั้งนานมัวฝอยอยู่นั่นแหละเอาภาษาภาพไม่เอาภาษาขี้คุยมากจนไม่ได้เรื่อง

@mr.nothinggoeswrong2450 10 месяцев назад

Came here to see how it´s made again cuz I forgot it...

@KnottingKnots 10 месяцев назад

That is the problem, you can forget them if not in constant use 😉 😉 😉

@AlbuquerqueImaging 2 года назад

nobody does the bowline on a bight seems like

@arkadybron6120 6 лет назад

The perfect tie method when your nice and cosy at home in the warm. Half way up an ice wall with frozen gloved fingers... not quite so useful.

@KnottingKnots 6 лет назад

What is your preferred method? Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@marykayswanstrom9761 Месяц назад

Butterfly knot should have 2 loops

@KnottingKnots Месяц назад

The Double Alpine Butterfly has two loops, this one is correct.

@fattymcbastard6536 3 года назад

I'm here because I keep forgetting how to tie this one.

@KnottingKnots 3 года назад

Funny how some knots are easy to remember, yet others....................... Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

@marykayswanstrom9761 Месяц назад

You talk Waaay to much

@KnottingKnots Месяц назад

You are the master of your own keyboard, you can mute or play at 2x speed to ease your pain 😉 😉 😉