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For years I've had moments and emails about one of the ways I time my saws.
Let's use to cutaway to see if my "theory is fact"

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@Magoot2456
@Magoot2456 25 дней назад
I think it's comical that people would get snotty with you over this. You say in almost every video that you do this for fun, and do it just to teach people what you have learned over the years. So THANK YOU Tinman for teaching us, I've learned so incredibly much from you man! I ported my first saw because of you, did up my MS460 and she rips all thanks to you!!!!
@martyrutter3630
@martyrutter3630 23 дня назад
That cut away saw takes all the mystery out of the build and provides a clear picture of all the mechanical functions. Very nice 👍👍
@paultrummer7289
@paultrummer7289 25 дней назад
All know is I'm thankful for all the info you share with us I split the cases ported and piped my 372 from watching your videos and lightened the piston she ripps now lol
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 25 дней назад
You're welcome, that is 100% why I do this.
@tjgrossman
@tjgrossman 25 дней назад
This is the same principle, crank angle, why a stroker engine produces higher torque with a longer rod, say going 6.0” from a 5.7” rod with the same stroke. Very well explained Tinman.
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 25 дней назад
I tried my best to explain it. I appreciate the feedback
@k9elli
@k9elli 19 дней назад
Cutaway model is awesome for showing concepts 👌🏼
@jasonburque
@jasonburque 25 дней назад
You're popular in the motorized bicycle community... I would love to see you do an Avenger 85 or MS 660 on a beach cruiser 100%
@glennfitch585
@glennfitch585 24 дня назад
Hi Tinman , love your channel. Quick suggestion for next time you do a video like this. Mount the timing wheel facing the piston. Cheers!
@darrenpierce9903
@darrenpierce9903 25 дней назад
Ive learnt so much from your channel. Just finished doing my first 372xp. bottom end and ported top end too. thanks to your videos!. Keep'm coming - they're so helpful. Cheers from NZ
@skravlesen
@skravlesen 25 дней назад
The Tinmaster😎 This is awesome info, thanks man!
@tdawg8605
@tdawg8605 25 дней назад
Interesting... indeed.... through in a knock off crank and who knows where you could end up. Wonderful insight, never thought of the cylinder shifting on the case. Thank you. TC Mahalo Tinman🤙🤙🤙
@chriswilliamson796
@chriswilliamson796 24 дня назад
That's pretty wild tinman. But it does make sense when moving the cylinder forward that it would affect the effective throw of the rod. Still crazy though
@SouthShoreSawSalvage
@SouthShoreSawSalvage 25 дней назад
Thank you Tinman, I've been wondering about this and hadn't quite figured it out. Showing how this works on your cut away really helps!
@aaronpowell4885
@aaronpowell4885 25 дней назад
Love the cutaway! Definitely helps to be able to see it when one cant quite visualize something👍🏻
@robert4027
@robert4027 25 дней назад
UPS is delivering my husky 550xp mark2 Today ...I'm really excited it's my first brand new saw ever . I've always bought used.. I think I heard that tinman wants to Port it for me 😃
@user-kg4sq5dc5d
@user-kg4sq5dc5d 25 дней назад
Does it zero out on top dead center after you moved the cylinder
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 25 дней назад
I'm glad folks like you are asking questions this video was made for that reason. I will make a.follow up video on this.
@waydehamm7928
@waydehamm7928 25 дней назад
I was waiting for the piston stop to go back in too see also
@llewisiv
@llewisiv 20 дней назад
Yeah, wondering the same thing, if you re-zero do you still see this. On to the next video to find out.
@bsutton7964
@bsutton7964 24 дня назад
Yeah it's called an offset crankshaft. It's not inline with the wrist pin on the piston. Some motorcycle engines do this on purpose to achieve different power bands and dynamic balances.
@danielbenedict9236
@danielbenedict9236 24 дня назад
Awesome video Tinman I really appreciate all of the knowledge you share with us and the time you take to make the videos to share that with us. Thank you!!!
@kevinmccoy269
@kevinmccoy269 24 дня назад
Great explanation.
@colvinwellborn
@colvinwellborn 24 дня назад
It's insane that people get wound up over this, there are a ton of videos on youtube explaining it. They clearly haven't done any research and are just shooting from the hip. The Driving 4 Answers channel does a really thorough and in-depth video explaining the phenomenon and covers why rod length matters even between engines with the same bore and stroke. Fortnine also covers it several times when explaining secondary imbalance in various multi-cylinder (motorcycle) engine designs.
@marcustraber
@marcustraber 24 дня назад
Thanks Tinman! Generally I don't worry unless the timing deviates by more than 1 degree when checking both directions. If they're off by about 1 degree, I assume I can average the two numbers.
@henrybarker1159
@henrybarker1159 25 дней назад
The old offset bore and piston trick ? used in auto engines a lot
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 25 дней назад
Shhhhhhh lol
@whistlingwindranch1832
@whistlingwindranch1832 18 дней назад
So you could shave the piston skirt to increase intake opening duration without changing exhaust timing, or transfer timing.
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 18 дней назад
Yes
@kristjanposavec6834
@kristjanposavec6834 24 дня назад
When you move the cylinder forward you have to adjust TDC
@CraigArndt
@CraigArndt 25 дней назад
Watched the 026 Stihl vid last night, decided after work today, tearing apart my 036 Pro, it won't run right. Took it down to the chassis, I have the smallest pin hole in my impulse line it won't hold air. And my rubber intake boot is original. While I'm here, doing a base gasket delete and already did a muffler mod. Hope I found the problem.
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 25 дней назад
I'll bet those are your issues.
@jonathanhall136
@jonathanhall136 25 дней назад
Very insightful, thank you. Weather sounds about the same as the UK and I'm a gardener so not great for me either😁
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 25 дней назад
We used to have a giant garden but have scaled back since having the wee one.
@classicfordmuscle
@classicfordmuscle 25 дней назад
It the cylinder is not perfectly centered over the crankshaft, if it is fore or aft, you can and will get different timing numbers on opening and closing.
@waydehamm7928
@waydehamm7928 25 дней назад
Nice job tinman very interesting 👍👍
@chainsawcanuck
@chainsawcanuck 25 дней назад
You are having the same 💩 weather edmonton has, I'm ready for warm dry weather and cold beers
@chriswilliamson796
@chriswilliamson796 24 дня назад
How do you think that would affect engine rpm?
@Dolmar-Rick
@Dolmar-Rick 24 дня назад
Why would the cylinder move unless it's been on and off a lot, and bolt holes have gone slack🤷🏻‍♂️ or am I missing something 😂
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 24 дня назад
The cylinder doesn't move, crank center line can be off during the manufacturing process which is the same as the cylinder being forward.
@JoeRainis156
@JoeRainis156 25 дней назад
Hello TinMan
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 25 дней назад
Hey buddy
@JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC
@JAMESHOPKINSIBXCNC 25 дней назад
Wouldn’t it be easier to just move the camera!! 😂🤣
@carl4130
@carl4130 25 дней назад
Thanks tin man
@carl4130
@carl4130 25 дней назад
I’ll leave this stuff to the knowledge people love watching your videos but I’ll just run stock I probably will stuff it up thanks for all your videos
@russellmihalko646
@russellmihalko646 25 дней назад
why not print the timing marks on both sides of your timing wheels?
@mucccvhorob4596
@mucccvhorob4596 25 дней назад
On most applications for these wheels you cant see the back of the wheel. They are not made just for chainsaws.
@thomaskapetantsis4951
@thomaskapetantsis4951 18 дней назад
No that’s not how you do it but it’s very close
@kurtsteele5587
@kurtsteele5587 25 дней назад
How's the Tinman and family
@josephrheaume8386
@josephrheaume8386 25 дней назад
You used the wrong cylinder half I believe. The exhaust and intake are reversed. But you may already addressed this.😊
@josephrheaume8386
@josephrheaume8386 25 дней назад
Actually you can just use the other crank half.
@boblapalme77
@boblapalme77 25 дней назад
Shouldn’t you rezero after moving the cylinder?
@tinmanssaws
@tinmanssaws 25 дней назад
That's a good question.
@mach5407
@mach5407 25 дней назад
Yes, because the wrist pin is no longer directly in line with the crank journal and connecting rod journal at the former “TDC”
@Z-Bart
@Z-Bart 25 дней назад
Fascinating. I say trust the math, question the science.
@justinweaver8107
@justinweaver8107 23 дня назад
🤔🤔
@fabzacres-blackcat
@fabzacres-blackcat 25 дней назад
You have just made a Desaxe engine by moving the cylinder and yes the numbers will change
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