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Amalgam | New Raid Ship in Star Trek Fleet Command | Is it any good? | Behind the Pakled Math! 

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Two videos AND a stream in one day? I'm here to keep @everyone entertained! Star Trek Fleet Command is having a busy day and that means we gotta be busy to. For those that don't have the Amalgam yet (F2P coming soon *TM*), here is your first look at how it works, if it's worth it, and all the glory this Pakled created kitbash brings. Who doesn't love a good kitbash?
Topics covered:
1. Understanding the math of the ship ability
2. Leveling cost compared to faction miners
3. Using the Amalgam refinery!
4. If you have any game mechanic questions, feel free to drop those questions in the comments!
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@spankedstudent
@spankedstudent 2 года назад
Personally think you're way off with your praise of this ship. Most people with enough res worth the Amalgam (10 billion+) have that much because they are good at shielding. There are a few rare cases to use it, but it's trash imo. Also, stating new ships are pay to play is wrong. Vidar was free, Stella was free, disco was free, botany bay. North star and dvor were cheap Scopely made a choice to massively over price this, cos they were hoping to cash in on the hype before people realise its trash
@PapaSmurf41697
@PapaSmurf41697 2 года назад
I was thinking of trying the exocomp trick when I first built the ship this afternoon. Glad to see you show me that my understanding was correct.
@umbertocellupica5077
@umbertocellupica5077 2 года назад
Rev, although u have a point about the Amalgam being cheaper to tier up, many of us already have faction miners that we have invested in to tier them up. My best faction miner scoops about 4 mil per hit. So the prospect of the Amalgam being more efficient for raiding on my server is minimal - not enough bases will have enough resources to trigger the Amalgam advantage to where it will beat out my faction miner. Not going to help me raid.
@drewhyperdrive2258
@drewhyperdrive2258 2 года назад
Who wants to raid? Its boring. Just make ship drops real. UC, Epic Shards. Creates active play. Whomever runs this division for Scopely is an idiot. They are beggong for ideas from fools
@David-vk7tv
@David-vk7tv 2 года назад
Hit a base with 3 trillion plus rss and your haul is over 1 billion. Big boy in my alliance is taking 4 billion + rss per hit on a base with amalgam. It's a must have for big base raids. Small rss, around 15 billion or so, unless it's tiered up highly, your maxed fac miners are equal or better
@nutznchocolates56
@nutznchocolates56 2 года назад
you're tripping.
@runekingthor9409
@runekingthor9409 2 года назад
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@chrismorley2232
@chrismorley2232 2 года назад
Scopely should release a ship called the USS refinery. For every 10k raw mats mined, it automatically converts the raw to 10 uc and 1 rare. Stick it behind a pay wall but allow f2p to get it through cosmic cleanup and events store
@Androly_San
@Androly_San 2 года назад
Great tip with the exocomp, that grind was daunting!
@altonashworth8501
@altonashworth8501 2 года назад
Just got mine out the dock and ready to get it on...thx Rev
@JustinGladden
@JustinGladden 2 года назад
Love the video. Very informative and great strategy with the EXOCOMP. It'd be nice to see Scopely give us more ships like the Meridian and the Amalgam. Being able to use a ship for G3, then G4 beyond Tier 5 to extend the life would've been nice after I dumped all those resources into my Kumari many moons ago. Makes me think the Andorians never made another ships for 150 years. LOL. I agree with you on the value over a faction miner, which is why I'm glad the Amal doesn't take too much 3* mats. Also, I still think there is a need for an H-Class freighter that mines TRIT, PAR, and DIL just as fast as the D'vor mines Lat. Otherwise the parsteel nodes in WR150 zones are USELESS.
@adityak600
@adityak600 2 года назад
The impulse speed grows as you upgrade it and tier it up, like the stella
@geeemm135
@geeemm135 2 года назад
i only went for one exocomp and still managed to grab 15m plunder cargo in that 1hr. so grabbing the 500k exocomp chest is not really needed since both - the exocomp and the refinery are on a 3 day cooldown. keep that in mind
@insanedesert8978
@insanedesert8978 7 месяцев назад
Just got my. Thank you for the video’s Great work to everyone
@RevDeuce
@RevDeuce 7 месяцев назад
Welcome!
@Hermes2Trimegistus
@Hermes2Trimegistus 2 года назад
Good video ! And for me, the BEST 0 pounds I've ever spent in this game in nearly 3 years, finally I can honestly say "Thank you, Scopely ! ":D
@IANF126
@IANF126 2 года назад
i've seen up over a trillion parsteel in the big bases, the amount of resources you could loot there is crazy
@richb1404
@richb1404 2 года назад
This is a good idea but the mechanics are way too small, the chances of finding a 50B base and getting in are next to impossible on my server. A normal raid is between 1-2B (if you’re lucky) and this simply won’t be worth it as a raiding ship. The refinery store is a great addition though and will look forward to using that when the ship becomes free
@vinportobg
@vinportobg 2 года назад
what do you want to totally make the other miners worthless? If you ask me the mining rate should be at botany bay level not horizen
@maxbklyn1
@maxbklyn1 2 года назад
@@vinportobg have guys on sever 33 with trillions but still cant crack them with an entire alliance or even 5 lol
@karlwatson75
@karlwatson75 2 года назад
I Just got the last bp's I needed from the current event, got excited thinking I could use the plunder exocomp with the Amalgam for Eclipse hostile and swarm ship loot, so so sad this is not the case at time of posting this.
@stake1976
@stake1976 2 года назад
Rev, Amalgam is great - don’t forget the Honour Guard Worf drops in the recruitment store. Big bonus, you can get 2 shards every 3 days. Really excited to have something to raid with again.
@DavidinDetroit8157
@DavidinDetroit8157 2 года назад
Great video, as always. I'm curious, do you know if the Amalgam upgrade pack is ops level locked? I'm ops32 and it's not being offered to me, but higher level players in my alliance do have the offer...
@IknowImNotCrazyYoumightbe
@IknowImNotCrazyYoumightbe 2 года назад
using the Exocomp, along with Stonn, and 2/11, i was able to amass 21M in just 1 hour. I warped to ther system, and summoned back with Disco....very good results. 1.9M per trip
@jackhayes6020
@jackhayes6020 2 года назад
Can you tell me what crew you are using. my ship is at 173K , need to increase the ship attack so I can hit one trader ship
@garygauthier5907
@garygauthier5907 2 года назад
Hey Rev. Love the videos. I have an unrelated question. I am wondering if, after getting the triple faction lock, anyone has gone on to level up dual factions beyond Respected reputation. Is it feasible? If it was tried, did they persevere or give up eventually for the normal single faction?
@zulawolfbane4405
@zulawolfbane4405 2 года назад
Great video.... thank you...
@The_Gaming_Hamster
@The_Gaming_Hamster 2 года назад
I'm interested in seeing B'Etor's OA and how it affects the amalgam
@danielmorrison1389
@danielmorrison1389 2 года назад
Rev - great video, but what is the breakout on the "bonus loot?" Does it bypass the "steel wall" or just take as normal?
@jasonlaverty9532
@jasonlaverty9532 2 года назад
Amalgam officer recruit wasn't covered in the video. Warning. Check refinery to see if you can do a chest pull before tiering up the ship. It resets the refinery so you can time it right and get 2 quick pulls.
@David-vk7tv
@David-vk7tv 2 года назад
This ☝
@xxstarlordxx7257
@xxstarlordxx7257 2 года назад
Rev did you do the missions yet. In the missions it says you get more loot if cloaked. I was wondering if there is another multiplier added when cloaked?
@markmadman2
@markmadman2 2 года назад
Great video. Question... if you say hit a tougher ship to suicide on after youve killed the miner with the exocomp active. ... do you keep the entire plunder? If hitting a much higher hostile is faster on the way home then getting home by warping
@CX500C
@CX500C 2 года назад
Yes
@tonyhannon20
@tonyhannon20 2 года назад
Rev, can you offer advice on refits for the amalgam? Where to get the trackers for example. Thanks
@PJ112575
@PJ112575 2 года назад
We have a raid going right now on S27, 18 hours on a 677 billion base... Over 500 billion taken so far. I can send you screenshots
@donytherat
@donytherat 2 года назад
Hi Rev. Still no way for free to play yet. I would not be surprised that Scopely has forgotten it. 🤣🤣
@joel7949
@joel7949 2 года назад
They need to add an armada mechanic for attacking larger bases so we can actually crack the whales
@beng7845
@beng7845 2 года назад
God no!! At least not with the current armada design, much like combat, it's not real time and is really badly implemented..
@foonus406
@foonus406 2 года назад
Thanks Rev.
@MohamedAhmed-bl7sq
@MohamedAhmed-bl7sq 2 года назад
How you can get the tokens for the other ships refits, you didn't show how to refine them
@OdinMagnus
@OdinMagnus 2 года назад
The best part of this ship is the ability to refine ship refits. Seems like the only reason to get it for me. Everyone worth hitting is shielded or way out of attack range. Either under or over. But 2 hits a day to be able to work towards refits seems like a deal
@nwchun
@nwchun 2 года назад
Question: How well does jellyfish pilot recognition ability works on pike?
@admdave
@admdave 2 года назад
When you get 24 hrs of shields from your dailies, it is increasingly difficult to find a place worth raiding. Do we know approx when it'll be free?
@nurgle5533
@nurgle5533 2 года назад
Funny to see my server in the screenshot lol
@mgp4235
@mgp4235 2 года назад
ohhhh nice I look forward for the Romulan CERAMIC and the Klingon GOL´D-cha-TOOTH....besides the new AMALGAM....
@SendXMusic
@SendXMusic 2 года назад
Woohoo rev it's s ship made for you
@coltonviltzke1861
@coltonviltzke1861 2 года назад
How do you refine for the refits?
@vinom7909
@vinom7909 2 года назад
When does the f2p bps Arc or events or whatever for this ship come out? 2 months? 3 or more?
@TheFatmer
@TheFatmer 2 года назад
Seems like a ship to focus on much much later in the game, never needed to go raiding for rss and at lvl 39 with 80 bill steel tokens etc so can’t see a need to raid until at least lvl 41/42 and even then I should earn plenty of res by then anyway… and I’m F2P
@claytonparris432
@claytonparris432 Год назад
You did the math as how it works while raiding but my question is in ship on ship combat does the same concept still apply?
@zacharylocks
@zacharylocks 2 года назад
I really wish this update would've moved the syndicate rep and store to be grouped with all the other factions.
@Temho1
@Temho1 2 года назад
Have you done a follow up vid on B'Etor yet?
@alvarollamas146
@alvarollamas146 2 года назад
Hi Rev, greetings from México, can we talk about ferengi traders, I think borg stuff needs to be refitted or updated, what do you think?
@wolfblade7511
@wolfblade7511 2 года назад
You didn't take into account B'Etor's ability that increases the amalgam's ability by 10% (tier 1 B'Etor)(it goes up to 50% at tier 5).
@cx5hobo24
@cx5hobo24 2 года назад
Will this help me get more Eclipse loot?
@bobbyduke777
@bobbyduke777 Год назад
It is my favorite ship because it is an amalgam of so many
@Bleachguy2023
@Bleachguy2023 17 дней назад
the amalgam is a 3 ship thing first the uber and an amalgam and a combat ship to clear out other hostiles
@SecretAgentE
@SecretAgentE 2 года назад
This ship is A kit-bash nightmare, it's literally made from parts from the Bortas, Valdore, and Brel along with the Nebulon-B frigate from Star wars
@BrettDay580
@BrettDay580 2 года назад
Nebulon-B! You took me back to playing X-Wing / TIE Fighter 25 years ago! .... Dang I got old?
@therkyn
@therkyn 2 года назад
What are amalgam refinery tokens used for? They dont seem to be applicable to the items for purchase (which all use ship skin shard trackers).
@MKtrain
@MKtrain 2 года назад
How to build it? Only for a cash?
@mnkpatrick
@mnkpatrick 2 года назад
When and how will it be available for F2P?
@markoconnor7163
@markoconnor7163 2 года назад
Although I love the idea of this ship and the refnery looks awesome, this ship seems designed to punish loot hoarders. Previously if you had hundreds of billions you had security in that any raid happening against you will take a long time to complete... The Amalgam could negate that.
@vlinderslagmarc
@vlinderslagmarc 2 года назад
So.... Great then? :D I love this!
@stevenmueller2519
@stevenmueller2519 Год назад
What song is that in the beginning of this video?
@EliteGeeks
@EliteGeeks 4 месяца назад
i am in the middle os looting a base as i type, my first pull was 1.62 Bill - base i hit has 1.3 trill
@Bleachguy2023
@Bleachguy2023 5 месяцев назад
i know this is an old video but you will need the uber disco cause no hub city close by would like to see them make the system near them made a hub system for home base it be so much easier Cillers and Phelan and less time consuming
@beng7845
@beng7845 2 года назад
I am guessing you got one for free from the overloads, 100$ seems way to much though I would probably have bought the battlepass if it was in the premium track..
@damianococcato5832
@damianococcato5832 2 года назад
Is the ship able free to play or is only for spender ?
@jeffw6894
@jeffw6894 2 года назад
Arc event store breakdown please!
@vatarion2683
@vatarion2683 2 года назад
The Problem is the big big Ressources are in Whale Bases and this ones have big defense.... without help low or medium players cannot get in so they will only with help from other big ones be able to raid theese big ones..... So most of the Players will never get this big raid hits with the new Ship Amalgam ^^ it will make only the big Raiders mightier than before :D I am very excited to raid with this Beauty
@jasonlaverty9532
@jasonlaverty9532 2 года назад
Find a big base already being raided by another alliance. Sneak in. Amalgam can cloak.
@Budhaball
@Budhaball 2 года назад
So there is no current way to 'earn' this ship? you can only buy it?
@ZinnNasty
@ZinnNasty 2 года назад
So I've tried that trick with the Plunder buff but it's not working for me, not sure what I'm doing wrong!
@jed13
@jed13 2 года назад
Did they ever add keyboard shortcuts?
@jackalcrimson
@jackalcrimson 2 года назад
I mean I’ll take the ship but I don’t see myself even using at 33, I don’t have the time to sit around and scan system after system looking for a base to hit, I haven’t actually raided in over a year because of the time investment. Not working 40+ hours a week in healthcare and going back to school.
@thomasbranch3826
@thomasbranch3826 Год назад
Has anyone gotten asimulated refit for this ship? If so, is it worth the price especially for a 30s level player
@marcoscasias9354
@marcoscasias9354 2 года назад
So tomorrow we can get the ship free to play Rev
@gxxlee123
@gxxlee123 2 года назад
Yeah but those kitbashes isn't a single beam connecting 3-4 different sections. Seen one earlier looks like a kumari mated with a mosquito and a breen ship. Can of disappointing that it isn't a Borg or even a Augment ship since the Augments have the whole weaking of base defenses or whatever their skills directly say.
@Laura-rt2zu
@Laura-rt2zu Год назад
I want supplies for all the ship BP I do not use I hope a Tracker Beams comes out!!!
@ryanshih9805
@ryanshih9805 2 года назад
Amalgam is only really worth it if you start raiding bases with over 20 billion of resources because at higher levels, your faction miners with the right officers can pull in over 5 million per scoop, which is still greater than your Amalgam.
@uncletom7877
@uncletom7877 2 года назад
You thought of a best crew option ?
@glenhamilton8146
@glenhamilton8146 2 года назад
Hey Rev, I'm on server 24 and they are trying to make the Amalgam as a 'warship' in our Accords. I use mine daily to mine in Deep Space. In our Accords DS is protected unless you hit 0. How can I get these guys to realize the Amalgam is much more than just a raiding ship?
@glenhamilton8146
@glenhamilton8146 2 года назад
I can agree that it is definitely the best 100 I've spent in this game ever
@russellwild8329
@russellwild8329 2 года назад
I use the disco and get 30m per hour so only need to do monthly
@TheCastellan
@TheCastellan 2 года назад
Did lower decks inspire this ship? :)
@eddiemalonebigbaded5039
@eddiemalonebigbaded5039 2 года назад
Well a Thief dont want lights the dark is his friend so trying to sneak in is a positive!
@popasham1
@popasham1 2 года назад
what is the name of the song at the beginning of this video ?
@stevenmueller2519
@stevenmueller2519 Год назад
found it, TheFatRat and Maisy Kay - The Storm.
@bobbyduke777
@bobbyduke777 Год назад
Amalgam can get to deep space the soonest. It collects my t4 rss when nothing else can, i will build another amalgam, they can sit over night and collect 4 star
@robertlaughlin8817
@robertlaughlin8817 2 года назад
Refinery 3 day wait times and having to have 2mil parts for just a single pull is my biggest issue
@TheRealXandes
@TheRealXandes 2 года назад
the other stuff was in the recruit tab lol
@RevDeuce
@RevDeuce 2 года назад
Yea video was running extremely long, and since I have to do a new "officer values" video, was gonna combine it with that.
@rumpeltv1080
@rumpeltv1080 2 года назад
why not use the exocomp and than kill the traders with a maxed faction miner + cargo officers?
@cadotteinator
@cadotteinator Год назад
how do you get from one end of the ship to the other you ask...transporters my boy transporters!
@JummyKnapp1
@JummyKnapp1 2 года назад
Does the exocomp work on bases as well?
@David-vk7tv
@David-vk7tv 2 года назад
No. The description says "plunder" which is only from the traders.
@k92th54
@k92th54 2 года назад
Hey Rev. Do we know what happens to the loot if this ship gets blown up before getting back to base?
@RevDeuce
@RevDeuce 2 года назад
goes into space... lost forever
@k92th54
@k92th54 2 года назад
@@RevDeuce yikes. I could imagine millions and billions just being lost in the future.
@Ilovetosing21985
@Ilovetosing21985 6 месяцев назад
Okay but how do I get the ship because I'm free to play? You did mention we can get it free to play but I don't remember you saying where to grind for it.
@RevDeuce
@RevDeuce 6 месяцев назад
Cosmic Cleanup on Saturdays
@justQthx
@justQthx 2 года назад
The crew uses transporter to go to different parts of the ship lol
@Ouwak
@Ouwak 24 дня назад
amalgam is best ship for raiding
@HugoBolzer
@HugoBolzer 2 года назад
thank you very much, excatly what i wanted to know
@RevDeuce
@RevDeuce 2 года назад
You are welcome!
@Argis01
@Argis01 2 года назад
The amount of bases I have seen in territory are closer to 11- 14 billion very rarely do I see 20 billion+, it’s just not worth it even at 41.
@vatarion2683
@vatarion2683 2 года назад
i am Ops 41 and have 240 Billion Ressources in my Base :P This big Bases are out there ;)
@nicholasanthony9005
@nicholasanthony9005 2 года назад
I tried the new EXOcomp and didn't get extra plunder... 😫
@derekdoyle9133
@derekdoyle9133 2 года назад
was your ship in base before you activated it?
@nicholasanthony9005
@nicholasanthony9005 2 года назад
@@derekdoyle9133 did not realize that was a requirement if it is. And I don't think my ship was to be honest.
@soulhunt5
@soulhunt5 2 года назад
I don't care about the raiding aspect. At 39, I've yet to need rss and not going to 40 this year I expect. The refit tokens are nice and really the only reason I'll get the ship. 1 exocomp means I can get enough loot for 2 weeks of refines in an hour. That isn't an awful grind to add to the game.
@jasonlaverty9532
@jasonlaverty9532 2 года назад
If you see a whale base being raided. Get sneaky sneaky and cloak the Amalgam to get your hits in unnoticed.
@TimmyTonk
@TimmyTonk 2 года назад
So, if you don't have an Amalgam, do you really have enough time to hit 50 of the traders on top of everything else? I play casually when I have a bit of downtime and it's starting to feel like unpaid work to "play" this game. Not a fan
@davidgonzales82
@davidgonzales82 2 года назад
How about that, a new currency:). 😂
@davidwald2898
@davidwald2898 2 года назад
It looks like she's carrying a bunch of portapots
@rumpeltv1080
@rumpeltv1080 2 года назад
your carge wasnt full, you should have hit another trader :O
@Finey_S_K
@Finey_S_K 2 года назад
There's no way the Pakled named their own ship Amalgam, they don't know the word.
@WouterVerbruggen
@WouterVerbruggen 2 года назад
Every ship mechanic should know their alloys. When jury-riggin parts together from all around you need to make sure it doesn't fall apart too easily XD
@NuckyThompson119
@NuckyThompson119 2 года назад
So this thing is only useful if it’s raiding a HUGE base, we all know how often we get to drain those. again I wish I never bought this waste of money. Scopley burns me again, and of course what you need to level this pos ship is behind a huge pay wall. Such buyers remorse, I wish I never heard you and dj talk this thing up last night. That’s the only reason I bought it.
@RevDeuce
@RevDeuce 2 года назад
So you don't like the extra options at sourcing HGWorf + ship skins? (seriously question, not a jab). Yes, raiding levels will depend on individual player/server, but the sourcing addition is great IMO.
@NuckyThompson119
@NuckyThompson119 2 года назад
@@RevDeuce nope never said anything about honor guard worf in my comments, that’s cool. But the ship is awful. Yes I see the potential, but the opportunities to meaningfully use this ship are going to be few and far in between. Unless scopley decides to Flood all their servers with trillions of rss. It’s only for those rare bases that are huge. I’m annoyed because I spent 100 bucks and wish I would’ve grinded it out for free. Because it just isn’t worth spending on unless scopley tweaks the numbers. Making it an actual game changer for raiding not this cash grab one trick pony of a ship. Where it only becomes useful if you pay a bunch or wait a long time. Even then in only limited circumstances it’s becomes worth it. I don’t want to sound like there was nothing good in this arc or that this has zero potential. But just like everything scopley does, they bring something good into the game but there is always a catch. It’s like they bring in good things to the game then stick it to you some other way.
@fabiodiiorio6430
@fabiodiiorio6430 2 года назад
I wouldn't exclude the possibility that scopely is planning to introduce researches later on to make it more effective. So you spend more to get those reserches done quickly or slower as f2p. But eventually you get a useful ship. We shall see ;)
@edwardsoto7046
@edwardsoto7046 2 года назад
Can barely get uncommon now. I have a enterprise auger and a D4 that need upgrading. Why would I waste my limited uncommons on a miner right now? I have all the faction miners & they’re at tier 5. Don’t need another miner. If I could solo raid then it would be worth it. This game is already time consuming. I literally don’t have the time to get a raiding group together.
@WouterVerbruggen
@WouterVerbruggen 2 года назад
That plunder grind is gonna be horrendous. Only a few of those spawn at a time and once the ships is available for free everyone will be hunting them. Upgrading it will take ages and the chances of finding a base that's juicy enough AND breakable are next to nothing. Could image the value if your sever is full of 45+ players and/or for no-lives that play 24/7, but for the rest it will probably be the lowest priority to work on. Nice mechanic don't get me wrong and the ability seems balanced, but very overhyped IMO.
@lachlannichol2315
@lachlannichol2315 2 года назад
Scopley: "Lets get players interested in raiding again. By making a $100 ship". Cant see this working, people who are not interested in raiding are not going to pay for it. Should have made a ship like this free to get people interested in raiding again.
@vlinderslagmarc
@vlinderslagmarc 2 года назад
they will next month
@izmazix2148
@izmazix2148 2 года назад
Watch2End&Comment
@instinctart2548
@instinctart2548 2 года назад
Why? Why level 31+? I am level 30 😭 i can't even get the bps yet :-(
@spankedstudent
@spankedstudent 2 года назад
Be grateful. It's trash
@instinctart2548
@instinctart2548 2 года назад
@@spankedstudent well it does already favor big players. Giving it only to those makes it break the game even more.
@spankedstudent
@spankedstudent 2 года назад
@@instinctart2548 no, it is utter trash. Not useful til ops 45+, and even then, barely. Be grateful Scopely saved you from wasting money on it.
@instinctart2548
@instinctart2548 2 года назад
Okay that's an interesting feedback. Why do you think so? Well, and btw, i wouldn't put money in a raiding ship anyways.
@spankedstudent
@spankedstudent 2 года назад
Because the ship ability is based on the amount of res in the base. There is zero benefit until there is at least 10billion res in the base, and it's very marginal up to 100 billion. Tell me how many bases have that much res in them. In the video he's getting 2 million per hit. Bit whoop, a decent faction miner gets 4 million. Content creators have mislead players on this ship badly
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