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Vi'Dar Talios Breakdown | STFC's newest Anti-Borg ship is no one trick pony | High Value Ship!

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The Talios is available for @everyone (assuming you're level 35+ and have maxed your Vidar!) and it's now time to talk about it. This video is a biiiit longer than some of my normal content, BUT, it's worth it as I explain how ship hull health (necessary to understand for grinding) works, the value of the Talios, how it's not a one trick pony, and of course the refinery payouts! Oh, and the basic crewing knowledge as well. Missions: They Have Adapted Parts 1 & 2
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1. Big thank you to JulesVern for taking the time create the refinery spreadsheet
2. Reminder: All charts are in my Discord!
3. Basic crewing information and why it's not much different than the ViDar
4. If you have any game mechanic questions, feel free to drop those questions in the comments!
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@rustyshackleford928 Год назад

I love the long videos. This was a great one! Thanks for what you do.

@jonathanmueller9062 Год назад

For a grade, the Talios is looking to be a very solid A this month. The video was about twice the length of your usual videos but you also had a lot of info to give to the people. Nice to see Big S return. He is a lovely view inside the mind of Scopely. It is so nice to have such open communication from a man on the inside.

@justinboyce1285 Год назад

Give me your money 💰... Classic Scopely

@elidelajandro Год назад

I have a maxed Vidar. I am the 6% I refuse to touch any event with the Vidar-A because it’s my one man rebellion. I don’t even have the Defiant yet. Seems like we just forgot about all the Cardassian/Bajoran content that was just added. And now I have to build another 4* interceptor? Come on… I’m all for revitalizing old content, but when only 6% of the player base HAS a maxed Vidar, maybe not focus an arc about the updated version of the Vidar-A, which requires the maxed Vidar to build. At least I don’t have to scrap the Vidar like I did my poor Franklin.

@PrimeDirective91 Год назад

I would feel more pity for other players, but this ship has been out for a while. The only older ships are the Frank and BB. If a player doesn’t have the Frank maxed it means they either ignored it or are new to the game.

@elidelajandro Год назад

I get that the Vidar has been out for literal years. I was one of those folks that had all the specialty ships maxed except the Dvor (I was one of those). But considering I’m about to unlock the Defiant F2P and the Spiky Vidar this week, it feels a little much to try and to build and tier up both at the same time.

@nvanattia Год назад

The game has always done this. They move onto a new arc and focus on new content. You still need to do the Bajoran content to progress. The Cardassian stuff kind of losses it's importance as you wait for your Star Base to upgrade. Just gradually pull some medals and stock up when upgrades happen.

@RoActual Год назад

I might get enough Defiant bp sometime next year.

@elidelajandro Год назад

I know. I’ve been here since the beginning except for an eight-month break prompted by the debut of the Stella. I don’t mind the grind or the power creep. I do mind being made to feel like a sucker and Scopely has been making me feel like a sucker quite a bit as of late.

@kr0w1123 Год назад

I'm a little upset the +% drop rate of probes is locked behind a prime for this ship when the vidar had this research available as normal nodes. My t2 talios still only gets 1/3 of what my normal vidar can bring home

@senbobshiro7853 Год назад

Rev - it is more efficient in terms of faction credits to claim your faction credits/independent credits while levelling up the Tali, if you rush levelling spending all probes on parts until you reach max for your level you will have less faction credits overall. Holds true even if you claim the directives, but it's much closer then.

@dameongreen6797 Год назад

Really wish the upgrade path wasn’t OP’s gated. One of the thing that made the original Vi’Dar so good was it was a pure effort = return, if you invested in it early it quickly outperformed the OP’s 26 and competed with the Sally early on (again if you upgraded it fully as it was much cheaper to get to T9). I don’t think many “slow grow” players are going to jump OP’s levels just to upgrade a ship, especially if it ends up putting you at the bottom of the SLB bracket

@nickm9102 Год назад

Right on with that. the idea of a lvl locks on a ship is insane I am more motivated to Uprade when I know that the limit to progress is how fast I push for it. I currently have 9 ships (3 meridians so 7 hulls) that I no longer try to focus on because I need to increase my ops lvl before I can do anything serious with them. I have enough of the special resource to max to the next Ops lock and then I forget about it unless it has another purpose. At a new Ops 36 I have to wait until we get the right territory for the Sarcophagus rare lock to upgrade and she is rarely used. Mantis is waiting for Ops 38 to push T5. Defiant is waiting on Ops 38 for T3 and is never used because other non ops locked ships do better. my Fesha is waiting on Ops 41 to push T5. I would love to upgrade my Franklin A but Sadly you need Ops 37 fot T2. then there is the Meridian I currently have 3 a T5, T4, and T3. my T5 needs Ops 39 to progress and while I am told these are great ships My horizons out perform on everything except warp range so I have no real reason to upgrade them until Ops 39. I even prefer the Amalgem because It seems at ops 36 I can max the ship. granted I have to scrap 3* faction ships for ALL the 4* to do this but I can...and I will.

@AndyMadridrealestate Год назад

yeah that's the one thing that really gripes me. The original Vidar I got early and maxed out quickly but Scopely continues to cater to the whales and keeps the new ships controlled by OP level.

@nunyabusinesss1476 Год назад

lol loved that intro reminded me of the ole Corporate Commander bits from the Angry Joe Show. :D

@SithScorp Год назад

THANK YOU, REV!!! Always awesome content!!!

@RevDeuce Год назад

My pleasure!

@hightone21 Год назад

Loved the intro Rev 😂

@MDougM Год назад

I'm pumped for more indy credits, and now seeing t4 payout I want to get there too not just t2 as I planned initially

@MadmanLink Год назад

I knew this ship was going to be a big raider when I saw the size of the hold. As I'm in the process of getting the bps I need for the K'Tinga I keep forgetting and using up the charged nano's. If you are getting this ship ftp I suggest you start saving nano's to level it up faster cause it is definitely worth it!

@darkvoice5717 Год назад

intro was spot on mate

@ashleyneethling1625 Год назад

😂 one of your best intros so far, luv it....give me your money!!🤣

@RevDeuce Год назад

Glad you like it

@jplacklan9593 Год назад

I saved up, I can take it straight to t2 tomorrow. w00t!

@johan23501 Год назад

When are the missions available in the Holodeck? My Vi'Dar is max level/tier.

@JorgeBraceroPR Год назад

Tomorrow at reset. Go to holodeck and itll be there as a “claim” mission

@Paulostore Год назад

Are ur OP 35?

@johan23501 Год назад

@@Paulostore op 39

@colinmgwilliam7087 Год назад

Yet another stonking video. Keep em coming mate 🙂

@RevDeuce Год назад

Thanks 👍

@IANF126 Год назад

i cannot wait to get the second half of my talios

@saru3919 Год назад

LOVE IT!!! Refinery is super awesome and a Multitrick pony! Go Tally!

@RevDeuce Год назад

I love it!

@eddiecharles8170 Год назад

I really enjoy your enthusiasm...but I think that Scopley needs to add nanoprobes to the events and take away the 24 hour time limit for turnings ....and either double the amount of armada credits or lower the amount of nanoparticles ....it's honestly like people who doesn't play the game are the ones dictating the what's best for the actual players... It was no thought for all the Borg research or the grind if only 6 percent of stfc has a maxed vidar....it's an game mechanic problem and not a player problem

@marcberman5642 Год назад

Finally got my Vidar to T9, wow, the two missions were so quick and easy. I love the Talios even at T1.

@warmarks7hyuman21 Год назад

Hey Rev, tnx again for great content. I have a remark on the "upgrade the Talios" event though. It rewards ppl that didn't max the vidar or that bought a Talios. I think it is unfair towards us that did the grind and maxed the Vidar. Why is it like that?

@EdwardCzajka Год назад

Thanks Rev. Been testing the Talios and been trying to figure out if it would be better than T9 Vi'Dar or not. LVL37 player with the Vi'Dar skin, so it makes the Talios a one trick pony (Borg Armadas) if not OPC raiding. I can fill my Vi'Dar ~500k with probes, but Talios is ~200k. Now, if I didn't have the Vi'Dar skin, they might be equal. NCC1887

@TR-kk2bh Год назад

Given both the skin and the exo there's no way the Talios will be worth it any time soon. I can get 600k with my Vidar and the Talios gets around 200k at level 39.

@tcstrong Год назад

Have a question for you Rev. The desealing rod for the Treasury Box, how long is the useful/validity of it last? I skipped last month, it's still available this month. However the rewards this month are not specific to my needs. Could I save it for next month?

@dupre7416 Год назад

A terrifying first look at our Scopely overlords. Any updates on the 3,000,000 tritanium mining poop sandwich?

@dupre7416 Год назад

@CmdrKlaa Haha, we've never met but you know me very well. I am indeed mining the 3m tritanium. Whether I'm enjoying it is up for debate....

@TheDarkNyte Год назад

I had 4x maxed Vidars before the Talios arrived, I wouldn't mind having the ability to scrap the originals to get say, 2M+ per ship scrap to help tier up the Talios.

@newideas2005 Год назад

What tool are you using for the ship tiering information that you used for Talios in this video? Can you share a link please?

@LeviathanXIIIX Год назад

Rev looks scary with beard, would look awesome as viking cosplay

@randomloginnamebtw7759 Год назад

hopefully they see that people still bought the ships and made them enough money to justify giving the ship for free so quickly after the first introduction and keep going on with future specialty ships like this

@starwarsrebel2006 8 месяцев назад

I need a tranwarp coil to upgrade one of the components on my Talios. It says it can be purchased in the Borg refinery. I don't see it available in the borg refinery.

@markoconnor7163 Год назад

As it needs charged nanoprobes are we getting more of these daily? Currently pull the solo dirs ind creds and 1 faction which leaves 200 left over.

@ZippeeKaiYay Год назад

Sounds great to just upgrade the talios and it will climb levels over a few days. But that will mean we will have to stop getting any independent faction credits. If the idea is I spend the next few months upgrading the ship and not get any benefits for ages, then that’s a massive fail for me.

@PhatKorean Год назад

I love the Talios. Since I didnt start my D4 until late, this will replace it for my armadas as its already as strong at t2.

@gp8231 Год назад

What Tier is your D4?

@christophertaylor1882 Год назад

Just got my talios this morning, I'm gonna have to get a few more charged nanoprobes though as I never focused on them before

@chrisjones9982 Год назад

Even though the VI'DAR Talios is, in fact, a Vi'Dar it Doesn't benefit from the Infinutus Refit (+50% Nanoprobes from Borg Probes) or the Nanoprobe Hunter tech (Maxed is another +50% Nanoprobes from Borg Probes), together gives the regular Vi'Dar +100% base Nanoprobes. Even the new Prime for the Talios (Prime Inert Nanoprobes), which from what I can tell must be purchased, so no Free to Play availability, only gives the Talios a +75% bonus to Nanoprobes. Additionally, the Prime Vi'Dar Cargo tech doesn't affect the Talios, so if you have the Infinitus, and both techs mentioned, you are better off grinding level 33 Borg Probes with the Vi'Dar and using the Talios Refinery, than actually grinding with the Talios, until the Talios is strong enough to fill up in 36 Borg Probe space on a full hull.

@mattleach8129 Год назад

It looks great. But was was all the January content about? Why bother with that daft system of exocomps if it was all about to get superseded four weeks later?

@RoyGrantham-uc5ke Год назад

How you watched Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex? "Big S" reminds me a lot of the Laughing man.

@fantasytavvy688 Год назад

What is the name of the mission for the Talios? I have some alliance mates then didn’t get the Tally during the events but now they have finally maxed their ViDars and want to get one

@NoName-nu2gk Год назад

Ok my question is with all the new g4 ships mantis talios defiant franklin A have the "improvements" to the economy they have done recently actually improvements. They've added ships basically need everything that 4* hasn't had b4 so ship parts and uncommons that used to be put into faction ships buildings and research are now needed for specialty ships. Almost seems like they've remade the 3* grind into the 4* ships. If the improvements cover all that plus give ppl reasonable room for advancement then great but im just wondering if the changes they made are actually improvements now or what

@ahamedalthaf5824 Год назад

I got the 50bp.when they going to give the rest of the 50bp.those missions get stuck on the half.it's decipher.do you know when they going to give the rest of 50bp.

@bradk79 Год назад

Haha great intro with that mask 🤣

@nickmarshall237 Год назад

If i paid for it do I still get the free one from the missions so I end up.with 2

@davestelt6528 Год назад

hmmm exos dont work on it right? doesnt that mean the grind goes up? i can fill my vidar before epic exo runs out grinding 1.2 mil with a 8k drop vs a 50k drop with exos doesnt feel like a time saver

@JoeNasr123 Год назад

One thing to keep in mind - the regular ol' ViDar takes less than half as long to repair, so your real constraint is saving a Borg warp token. But I've got too many of those anyway.

@nickmarshall237 Год назад

so I haven't seen any of the frerangi in any of the new prob space do they exist

@beng7845 Год назад

I've got my first 50 prints, hopefully they'll be another mission to get the last 50 in a few weeks. Just hoping it helps reduces the grind.

@Paulostore Год назад

Nice new opening

@CR-kf8cq Месяц назад

Got to 118 of 120 game told me to get section 31 faction to next level to get the last 2. So I’ve spent weeks pushing to next faction level and went to store to get last 2 shards. Now the shards aren’t in the faction store and the refit for defiant is there instead. Waiting on support to tell me why. You got any idea.

@paulwheeler8913 6 месяцев назад

I had to raise a ticket as missions refused to appear. Then with scopely’s customary organization the support person gave me all the dps to build one, then the next day a different support person gave me the missions so I ended up with bps for two ships 😂

@yeshk.9039 Год назад

Please ask scopely to allow me to use my vidar skin on my talios as those events were hard to grind to get the shards for and now seem pointless as the talios is my main borg Hunter

@dwayno4305 Год назад

Rev is there any place we can get a complete list of what we need to upgrade to go to LV 50 Thanks for any help bud

@lakesidehog9525 Год назад

If you mean ops… he just did a video about camping at 49 to get ready for 50… check out his past videos… it was just a few days ago

@mikeporter5012 Год назад

Do you have to have Talios in solo armada to get reclaimator bonus?

@awwwnawwbruh Год назад

Will there be scrapping for the original Vidar?

@robertlee5456 Год назад

Rev, can you talk to Scopely and ask them to enable the Vidar loot exos for the Talios? It's frustrating and stupid that the old Vidar is still the superior option for probe farming right now.

@RevDeuce Год назад

Have brought it up!

@paulofilho6304 Год назад

About mining event... prepare your self next will be Parsteel. Theres some DS CLat with old nodes and those need to be mined... Tri ones are gone with this 3M quest.

@vassagood Год назад

Best ship update ever!!!

@JBHIFI23 Год назад

so even though the talios is a 4* ship? you can build it without the G4 research?

@jrveley08 Год назад

What's the name of the mission to get the talios?

@metallifan102 Год назад

How does the Talios compare to the Vidar without the skin though???

@pault2891 Год назад

I can't get the talios bp due missions that I rarely do.

@SomeTrekker119 2 месяца назад

I can't unlock the Tailos. My is at maxed tier and level, ops and shipyard are at 35 and I can not get the missions to unlock it

@swagat1981 7 месяцев назад

I got the mission as soon as my Vidar was T9 but not max.

@wilgriffin3500 Год назад

Will refinery adapt to recycling Vìdar?

@derekn4176 Год назад

Do the exo comps for vidar work on Talios? I was testing yesterday and they did not seem to help. I can fill vidar with 500k in 10 min but 20 in later im at 100k on talios

@Captnwalker1 Год назад

Same both exocomps and nanoprobe hunter research do not apply to talios which is dumber than hell.

@wilgriffin3500 Год назад

What happens if I've already maxed it?

@BreadOfPrey Год назад

Someone on our server has a T8, 13m Talios already. Thing’s an absolute unit

@paulofilho6304 Год назад

$$$

@worm413 Год назад

Our level 60 has his at I believe tier 11. It's 123 million.

@douglasreid7511 Год назад

I like it, but I almost never had to grind before for probes since I maxed Vidar simply because of the away team missions. No matter how good this is at grinding it can’t compete with that, which is why they nerfed it so hard :(

@douglasreid7511 Год назад

It is good that it’s not a one trick pony though, still super annoyed by what they did to the defiance :(

@adampsyreal Год назад

Talios looks similar to the new ship in Picard season 3

@slipstream8299 Год назад

Hah, I think it's funny they release something this great...just to cover up how gross the mission(3MM Trit) and how grindy the events are. A step in the right direction though?

@arcticdreds3284 Год назад

LMAO 🤣 luv it!!

@KnightRider033 Год назад

Ship sure looks nice, and when we get it i am sure it will help... But some things needed in game to be fixed, like leaderboards beeing stuck for a long time, rss raided and thoose leaderboards i mean... And when someone posts cords in ac from teritory that we own and i click on it it doesnt take me directly in system but takes me in galaxy view, so i have to click it again then it takes me in system, super annoying

@playguy74 Год назад

We need a video examining Dezoc and Assimilate

@williamroberts8816 Год назад

I can't finish the Orion Corvette,Turas and Alliance help.

@TheFatmer Год назад

Charged nanoprobes in the next event store please!

@richardharp2810 Год назад

when is the mission coming

@seastnanseastnan7765 Год назад

If SCOPELY would reduce the ship to probe ‘battle-time’ from 7+ seconds to just 2 or 3 seconds it would help reduce the grind markedly.

@JMX2323 Год назад

why don't the nextly introduced exo's work for this version?

@banccluber Год назад

Not tiered mine once yet and already bringing back 700k+ nanos. Very much slower farming than my maxed vidar at moment but I'm sure it will be farm better once I can farm higher probes. Getting it to my level of 47 will still be painful. Shame scopely have not put nanos rewards in bolo chests!!

@dmend5023 Год назад

Concur Talios is a great ship out of the gate. But why should all T4s be limited to level 3 at player level 39. I think these ships should allow level 4 max at 39. Just a thought.

@billknaus2598 Год назад

I have a maxxed Vidar... where's the mission with the second batch of BPs? I feel... left behind... or has it just not dropped yet?

@RevDeuce Год назад

Hasn't dropped yet

@billknaus2598 Год назад

LOL Answer is around 17minutes in. It's later this week. Thanks, Rev!!

@eaglesrum2319 Год назад

There's very little worth doing this arc anyway unless you like killing probes, I've mostly checked out of it all, the new ship is the only plus point so far

@nvanattia Год назад

I did pop my Ops 40 between arcs so I can start opening the Rare and Epic Borg Solo boxes. I am not planning on doing any of these new Expansion Cubes.

@majorsam1400 Год назад

Yay Learning!!!

@savageskot Год назад

anyone else not getting the mission in holodeck (I have a maxed t9 vidar and ops 42) for the other 50 bps for talios?

@nutznchocolates56 Год назад

Next week

@KOZMOuvBORG Год назад

1:05 you only warned us about maxing out Vi'Dars just over a week ago, many have no way of doing before battlepass finishes.

@geoffh784 Год назад

Earlier videos have talked about how maxing the ViDar was needed also.

@HugoBolzer Год назад

i am looking forward to build and test the *"Vi'Dar 'T'"* ... so far the blow OPS40 experience was a bit disappointing it still takes 50+ kills to fill my 841.000 Vi'Dar Cargo on a single Warp Token => 100+ Borg Probes each day Although I use every possible loot increase > research: "Nanoprobe Hunter" +50% > Skin: Infinitus +50% > Officer: 5of11 with 50% > Exo: Vidar +125% loot > Officer: Ghalenar +10% muliplier lets hope it gets better ...

@robertlee5456 Год назад

Once you unlock the multipurpose exocomp slot, you can double-stack vidar loot exos: one in the galaxy slot, and one in multipurpose. It takes me less than 5 minutes to fill my Vidar cargo hold, and probe farming is no longer a chore.

@HugoBolzer Год назад

@@robertlee5456 you can only get the other loot exos when you are ops40+ OPS39 and lower has only access the the Green 125% loot exo, therefore a second or double activation is not possible. And i am very, close to unlocked my second multipurpose exo slot,

@flozano2004 Год назад

And them, is the vidar work of scrapping?

@kantzler Год назад

How did he get 800m ship xP

@joshL2813 Год назад

The Commander skills only boost the Vidar says nothing about Talios. The skill needs to include the Talios why get the commander and upgrade it if the skills eventually get phased out.

@richardneufeld545 Год назад

Question remains unanswered. Why did Scopely put out a leaderboard that I participated in for the Vidar skin only 2 weeks before making it obsolete?

@RevDeuce Год назад

because players asked for it last month

@richardneufeld545 Год назад

@@RevDeuce I doubt players would have asked for it if they knew it would be obsolete in a matter of a few weeks.

@mstankovic Год назад

Coincidentally unlocked Talios and Defiant on same day. Talios is as Rev pointed out great ship but overall excitement is not that big as I'm quite disappointed when looking a dock with kind of a helpless Defiant. Somehow I would rather see this reversed.

@wkjeeping9053 Год назад

I just maxed my outlaw rep

@Nashfanfl13 Год назад

just wondering do you ever play the game on youtube was trying to find gameplay yet all I see in the videos is you talking about articles or looking at spreadsheets

@RevDeuce Год назад

Everyone of my live streams is me actively playing the game.

@twittertwatter5892 Год назад

Okay let me understand this.....Talios at T1 with primes chest cost 510k = 46k probes. However as one tiers up, the cost goes up but rewards basically stand still........I know Scopely is evil, but why not make it even? T5 the cost is 1,040,600 but rewards are ONLY 57600.........WTF? Rewards should be three times the amount to equal the cost.

@wkjeeping9053 Год назад

I only gring Borg and mantis stuff once a week

@codymoore4726 Год назад

So we do need to mine the 3mil of trit to get the Talios. Yay...was hoping I could do that gradually over a month. Oh well.

@jongress2195 Год назад

I'm still working on that event, and I unlocked the Talios today

@shawnnoyes2776 Год назад

Rev - completed all the available missions ops 34 (6 days to 35 - might matter?) and I am a 6%-er... did not get the first 50 BP's - ticket submitted, nothing but crickets from the ticketing system... any help? Feel free to reply here, or put it in the next video (JackThePumpkinKing in game). -Shawn

@thedoubledowner5359 Год назад

Almost a third of the way there on my 3 mil tritanium farm, lol.

@mikepomeroy153 Год назад

When I scrap my t9 vidar, do I lose the infintus skin?

@synofthedark913 Год назад

Don't need to scrap it

@JohnConner0815 Год назад

Not possible, you cant scrap the Vidar

@mikepomeroy153 Год назад

@JohnツConner thanks, I was under the impression you had to scrap it to get new one. Lol.

@obey112el 4 месяца назад

use vidar og as a grind for borg too upgrade your talio

@RoActual Год назад

“Only” 784K charged nanoprobes to get to T3? Max refine at 30K a day means a long long long long long wait - NOT A FEW DAYS - with a lot of grinding, presumably with the regular Vi’Dar with the better hull health