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Amateur Astronomer vs Hubble Telescope (and WHY it makes NO SENSE!) 

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@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
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@dmitribovski1292
@dmitribovski1292 2 месяца назад
Can you do your version of the Hubble Ultra Deep field
@sbkarajan
@sbkarajan 2 месяца назад
Why would Hubble produce better pictures than Keck? Have you seen the comparison between the two? Hubble got 2.4 m mirror, Keck has 10 m mirror. There are diagrams comparing the two, take a look. And Keck is above Hawaiian mountain, so not much water vapor to distort the image either. So, how can little Hubble outperform massive Keck?
@kyzercube
@kyzercube 2 месяца назад
" fake color ". The on the books technical term for it is _False Color_ 😆It can be misleading when people hear that term thinking it's " fake ", but the data itself is not. The colors have been changed so our eyes can see the image with familiar color schemes.
@bluewhalestudioblenderanim1132
@bluewhalestudioblenderanim1132 2 месяца назад
@@kyzercube false collor is one thing but we're straight up missing some emission lines because some elements like hydrogen don't just glow in one color whitch makes me question some things
@bluewhalestudioblenderanim1132
@bluewhalestudioblenderanim1132 2 месяца назад
hydrogen doesn't just glow red, . it switches do blue whan it gets ionised more . . whitch makes me ask: how many emission lines are missing from the hubble image and what would a complete spectrum of the pillars look like :?
@fwiffo
@fwiffo 2 месяца назад
What's even more amazing was that Hubble was launched in 1990. What was the state of amateur astrophotography back then? Was anyone even using digital sensors? Even crazier - it was designed in the *1970s* and intended to be launched in 1983. Sure, amateurs had large, high-quality mirrors back then, but you weren't exactly able to stack 50 images on your laptop. Hubble was considered a boondoggle when it launched, due to the defective primary mirror. It was compared to the Hindenburg and Titanic. In the end, the spherical aberration was completely correctable (it was very precisely ground to the wrong shape) and it became one of the most successful scientific instruments in history. 30 years after launch and 50 years after its design, it's still producing cutting-edge science. When people compare their amateur images, they usually pick a big, easy, bright target like the eagle nebula. Give it a shot with the Hubble ultra-deep field, and the difference is even more stark. Good luck getting a month's worth of light. And that just talks about imaging capability, and doesn't get into the wavelengths that can't be observed through the atmosphere, Hubble's infrared and ultraviolet capabilities, spectroscopic capabilities, etc.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
It's honestly amazing that they were able to compensate for the primary! And I'm so glad they did. Also you are absolutely right on ALL points!
@JustBCWi
@JustBCWi Месяц назад
And after it was launched they found there was a flaw in the optics that required a repair.
@XGD5layer
@XGD5layer Месяц назад
​@@JustBCWi read the rest of the comment
@Expressmusic457
@Expressmusic457 Месяц назад
I love the Hubble Ultra Deep Field, I have it saved on my phone
@leadgindairy3709
@leadgindairy3709 Месяц назад
@@JustBCWi He covered that in the text, but thanks again.
@rcpettengill
@rcpettengill 2 месяца назад
Social media sized versions of many of the Hubble images are easy to approximate with amateur equipment exactly as you have shown. I've found value in rescaleing Hubble and other large telescope images to the same pixel scale my equipment produces. This provides a benchmark for evaluating resolution enhancement techniques like deconvolution and drizzle stacking dithered images to recover resolution in my amateur images. The rescaling of the Hubble pixel scale to what my equipment produces, shows what my equipment should ideally capture in the absence of the atmosphere and diffraction.. Comparing my processed images to the rescaled large telescope images makes it clear what level of processing was recovering real details and when I was introducing processing artifacts.
@JeremyCoppin
@JeremyCoppin 2 месяца назад
Brilliant!
@LaplacianDalembertian
@LaplacianDalembertian Месяц назад
Also the computer monitors are only having 8 bit depth, all the difference people can see comes from the usage of software which approximates 32+ bit depth "packing" it into 8-bit. Also software manipulations make art object from data, and art objects have low scientific value. Scientific image is =/= "astrophoto". I was making scientific images from data, which were beautiful, but still had scientific sense, because they contained exact information, not screwed by digital image processors. And nobody liked my scientific images. Average Casual People essentially always gonna like "astrophotos" but will never gonna like scientific imaging. Deconvolution actually destroys information, as every other digital convolution filtering, so it is merely a method of making art objects which have nothing common with real object in space.
@flamerollerx01
@flamerollerx01 Месяц назад
Smart.
@PaulinaStopa
@PaulinaStopa 2 месяца назад
I'm not into astro photography. This is a random RU-vid suggested video for me. I've seen Pilar's of creation many times. But showing this zoom image makes me want a big, high resolution poster to hang in my living room...
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks for stopping by! I absolutely love that you were recommended this video randomly and you still watched it AND now you would like that poster (me too!). Sometimes RU-vid works in cool ways!
@PaulinaStopa
@PaulinaStopa 2 месяца назад
@@CuivTheLazyGeek thank you for showing this. Like I've said - I've seen it many times before, but usually when showing the whole thing - you are not aware of how beautiful, scary, inspiring, exciting, extraordinary, impressive these details are. This is so cool!
@jebimasta4604
@jebimasta4604 2 месяца назад
Same! Random recommendation. In university I had access to a printer that used an A0 roll of paper. I thought it would be cool to print a poster of the carina nebula hubble photo, because it was so immense. The printer took HOURS to process the image, then hours to print it! so many student's walking to the printer wondering where their work was and why it was taking so long 😂
@jimmywenger8979
@jimmywenger8979 2 месяца назад
I've got a life size print of it hanging in my front room, it's really nice.
@elfishpresleybarbiebreath1116
@elfishpresleybarbiebreath1116 2 месяца назад
​@@jimmywenger8979Life size 😂I see what you did there. I also have a life size picture of the universe in my living room.
@jimmurphy6095
@jimmurphy6095 2 месяца назад
Great comparison. I downloaded and processed the Hubble's M51 images, 3 separate files, and just over a Gig of data! You could blow the final image up to the size of a city bus and still see amazing details. Amazing piece of kit we have flying around up there after 30+ years.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
The raw files are insane right??
@PaxAlotin-j6r
@PaxAlotin-j6r 2 месяца назад
*Jimmurphy* -- I might be wrong in thinking this --- -- but I believe Google uses the Hubble imagery to show us the visible universe - the magnification is almost endless.
@koijoijoe
@koijoijoe Месяц назад
If u don't mind could u point me to where u download those files? Is it just from NASAs website? I gotta play with some real space data!
@jimmurphy6095
@jimmurphy6095 Месяц назад
@@koijoijoe Do a search for the Hubble archive. You'll find a million images in assorted filters.
@DylanODonnell
@DylanODonnell 2 месяца назад
Great video Cuiv :) You can love Hubble (and JWST) and backyard astronomy at the same time. These things aren't mutually exclusive, despite what the commentators sometimes suggest ;)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks Dylan! I'm in love with both :)
@2adamast
@2adamast 2 месяца назад
Hubble did start that war. Back then they promoted the telescope besides its astronomical cost, specs, failures and delays with nice (for the pre internet taxpayer) images no one had ever shown before. By now it gets competition of backyard astronomers for those same images. This continues that war by saying Hubble is still superior on specs while the others are lying 6:20 Calling it a lie is a misrepresentation. But I love misrepresentations, so no harm done :)
@emanuellandeholm5657
@emanuellandeholm5657 2 месяца назад
I agree. My first wow moment was when my "backyard astronomy" father in law zoomed in on Saturn one crisp, cold winter night in Sweden, when the seeing was amazing. I don't remember making out the moons, but the contrast in the rings alone blew me away. Then there's the JWST deep field. That one blew me away too. But it was the same feeling of awe!
@princetamrac1180
@princetamrac1180 2 месяца назад
Wow, I have never seen the zoomed in version of the Hubble picture. Absolutely stunning. My jaw actually dropped as you showed us the intricate detail, the light eminating from the dust of creation, the stars shining, the clouds forming, etc. And to know all this is actually physically out there in the vast universe makes me so happy and sad at the same time, because I will never witness such beauty and greatnes with my own eyes. Thank you!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Oh man thanks so much for your comment, I'm so happy I could help you experience this!
@lXlDarKSuoLlXl
@lXlDarKSuoLlXl 2 месяца назад
The really sad part is that, the image is a composite reconstruction of images, with slight recoloring for us to see. So in reality, even if we manage to build a ship that could park close to anything the hubble has photographed, we wouldn't see it like the hubble does. 😅
@redneckcoder
@redneckcoder 2 месяца назад
@@lXlDarKSuoLlXl Even then, these things are on such a scale that naked eye observation distances - they don't even exist as something we can see. It only becomes visible from a distance.
@lXlDarKSuoLlXl
@lXlDarKSuoLlXl 2 месяца назад
@@redneckcoder well, yes, but naked eye distances in space are much, much larger than in earth... I mean, you CAN see jupiter from here, you just can't make any details. The nebula is an extremely gigantic structure, you could be "close enough" to the pillars to "see" them, but since nebulas are clouds of dust/gas, they'd be very, very dark. Much like what you see when you look at the center of the galaxy.
@illusion466
@illusion466 2 месяца назад
That "little thing" (23:45) is probably a thousand times larger than our entire solar system
@rinceart
@rinceart 2 месяца назад
This was the most engaging astrophotography video I've watched for a very long time! Congrats on picking a very educational topic and presenting it so interestingly.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much, and glad you enjoyed!
@spunbearing
@spunbearing 2 месяца назад
I think it also shows how far personal astrophotography has come since the launch of the Hubble. We didn't have the kind of equipment back then that we do now.
@SteveT-v6n
@SteveT-v6n 2 месяца назад
Yes, "they" did. "We" did not.
@Laroac
@Laroac 2 месяца назад
​@@SteveT-v6nthat's why they had to build hubble🤦
@SamStars8811
@SamStars8811 2 месяца назад
I've never understood why people posted these comparison pictures as there is no comparison and you have elegantly demonstrated this. Well done.
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 2 месяца назад
it's true of the general public though that when they see the pillars with the glow at the top, they get the idea that these have never been seen before. But those pillars are clearly visible in my photo with a Seestar, which is a 50mm scope. What the Hubble brought to the party was increased resolution beyond anything imagined before. So these baby scopes vs Hubble have a function, to allow the general public to appreciate the true role of larger aperture scopes without atmospheric intervention. They at least have the chance to see differences with increased resolution looking at the same object. Most probably the general public still misunderstands. But it's fun for the astrophotographers who make the videos and it's fun for we amateur astronomers to see too. I don't think there's any misrepresentation going on here at all.
@robertw1871
@robertw1871 2 месяца назад
Me with 100 hours of work vs 15 minutes with Hubble.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Hahaha yes!
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 2 месяца назад
@@CuivTheLazyGeek There is a lot of work before that Hubble photo is released, at least as much as is in your photo. Hey, should I post my photo of the Pillars from my Seestar and pick a fight with Hubble? I thought not! But the Seestar is amazing.
@TheKuul69
@TheKuul69 2 месяца назад
So what think about what $3.4 billion in the telescope cost plus the launch ! Then think about the 66 guys on stupid money standing around talking about what they supposedly got from Hubble ( sophia, nasa identical spec telescope in a jumbo jet with a sunroof )
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 2 месяца назад
@@TheKuul69 _"So what think about what $3.4 billion in the telescope"_ I think you don't understand the science. Good thing you don't have the power to pull the plug on Hubble. Pro tip: what are you going to do when they launch Vera Rubin that will make Hubble look like a Walmart 50 mm refractor? We need it and you have no clue why. I prescribe a bit of learning. Join your local astronomy club. Get some eyeball time on some amateur scopes. The point of this video is that yeah, Hubble gets hundreds of times more data than an amateur scope, but you have to see it to appreciate just how good the amateur scopes are today. That's a long way from saying that Hubble is a waste of money.
@Darenz-cg9zg
@Darenz-cg9zg 2 месяца назад
​@TheKuul69 so, tell me, what has hubble done for us? do you have any idea?
@seculi7757
@seculi7757 2 месяца назад
Hubble`s concept is from the 70`s, when people had filmcamera`s and recordplayers. Hubble is like a LCD-television that`s 50 years old that still has better image than OLED. Surely camera`s for home use got a lot better since then, but shooting your camera/telescope up into space, having radiation shielding, gyroscopic image stabilisation, having digital wireless transmission over 100`s to 1000`s of kilometers, ability to adjust for problems remotely, also would make a home camera/telescope much bigger/complexer and very much more expensive.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Yep, it's insane to me they managed to build and send that thing to space!
@youtorba
@youtorba 2 месяца назад
Love how gracefully Cuiv calls bs on the "me vs hubble" misrepresentations.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Grace is everything ;)
@Apagadorable
@Apagadorable 2 месяца назад
This is such a good advertisement for Hubble that NASA should consider sending one for Cuiv for a full review.
@EvenTheDogAgrees
@EvenTheDogAgrees 2 месяца назад
Great idea! Anyone here know anyone at NASA that could make this happen? Let's put our networks at work, guys!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Mwahahaha give me access to control the Hubble lol
@luboinchina3013
@luboinchina3013 2 месяца назад
Or its newer version, JWST
@Adwaenyth
@Adwaenyth 2 месяца назад
But how does he get it to space then...? On the ground we could probably settle for the EELT or something simiilar. ;)
@RockinRobbins13
@RockinRobbins13 2 месяца назад
@@luboinchina3013 JWST isn't the newer version of Hubble. JWST is specialized to take photos in the Infrared spectrum and give the different frequencies artificial colors in the visible spectrum so we can see them. JWST is the COMPLIMENT, not the replacement for Hubble. The replacement will be the Vera Rubin telescope with an 8 meter primary mirror, compared to Hubble's 2.4 meter and JWST's 6.5 meter primaries. And Vera Rubin will be working in optical wavelengths, just like Hubble. For light gathering power, Vera Rubin will gather 6.25 times more photons per second than Hubble. For resolution, Vera Rubin will resolve 2.71 times better than Hubble. It won't be like comparing Hubble to an amateur scope, but it will be a remarkable improvement.
@MrSeedi76
@MrSeedi76 2 месяца назад
I still love the "me vs large telescope XYZ" shootouts that Astrobiscuit does. Very entertaining 😊.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
I love it too!!! Linked in this video :)
@pygmee6412
@pygmee6412 2 месяца назад
Amazing! Let's also not forget that Hubble was launched in 1990! The instruments available now are leaps and bounds better than what was possible 34 years ago.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Absolutely!
@bronte65
@bronte65 2 месяца назад
Thanks for your work on this and your patience in explaining the process. As ever, your enthusiasm is infectious. Winter is here so I can only rarely use my own kit. But you do keep my interest and my own enthusiasm in the “on” position. I’m very grateful. Thanks very much. 😊
@joedenisco6033
@joedenisco6033 2 месяца назад
Cuiv, that was a GREAT video. It really put things in perspective. One thing should be said though.. Your Pillars of Creation image is amazing. You are an extremely talented and knowledgeable Astrophotographer. You Totally sold me on the 585 chip. That will be my galaxy camera, coupled with my Quattro 200. You are an incredible resource for this community. Thank You sir. Joe D
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much Joe! Enjoy that setup, it should be a galaxy killer!
@lpaelke
@lpaelke 2 месяца назад
I don't think that drizzling should be considered cheating when "competing" with the HST. Not only do the Hubble guys also use drizzling, they invented it!😉
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Yep! But it's fun to point out anyway :)
@chichangwu
@chichangwu 2 месяца назад
if you compare it to the first uncorrected hubble lens then it is almost the same
@SirWussiePants
@SirWussiePants 2 месяца назад
Yes, many of the things home astronomers use now to clean up data was developed specifically for the Hubble when it was myopic. Without Hubble being there first modern home astronomers couldnt even have gotten close to the same image
@DeSinc
@DeSinc Месяц назад
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see James Webb's shot.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Месяц назад
Thank you! Yeah, the James Webb shot is just plain insane!
@AnalogMonoxide
@AnalogMonoxide 2 месяца назад
How could this NOT be a love letter to the Hubble telescope? 🙂
@EricLS
@EricLS 2 месяца назад
One major caveat to the "I can almost match Hubble!" posts: The imaging device is over 30 years old. Go grab a consumer digital camera from 1994 and see what you get. Oh, there weren't really any? Hmm.... I want to see someone match JWT, THEN we'll have a real contender.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Very true! And yeah the JWST is simply untouchable! Even the Hubble is untouchable in UV (even by all the Earth bound pro obsys and scopes)
@deep_space_dave
@deep_space_dave 2 месяца назад
Cuiv people sometimes forget that Hubble was built in the 90s with 90s tech and yes it was nearsighted when they deployed it but now it has corrective optics and will be hard to beat for years to come! The most important fact I take away from your video is that using the latest amature astro tech and software, we now can produce images that get very close to Hubble which makes this hobby even more awesome and fun! I am actually quite impressed at your image from your location with a relatively smaller aperture. Well done! I can't wait to see what comes out in the future to get us closer to Hubble quality more than ever!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Fully agree Dave! The Hubble did get some sensor upgrades but still, it's such an amazing achievement! Fun fact, in "The Naked Gun 2 1/2", the Hubble is visible as part of the Loser's Bar, as it was considered an abject failure at the time!
@MysticMungusSlungus
@MysticMungusSlungus 2 месяца назад
Anyone doing Hubble comparisons should use photo processing software from the late 90s. Trying to compare a processed image from today to something processed on a Pentium 3 with 64 MB of memory, is a bit ridiculous. Most of Hubble's raw files could be processed today and blow the original images out of the water.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Hahaha true! You can also go and get the raw FITs files from the Hubble and process them with PI and see what happens
@davidfottrell8668
@davidfottrell8668 2 месяца назад
You are absolutely right, when look at the archived photos of what "state of the art" ground based imaging accomplished before Hubble, you can clearly see what a quantum leap forward Hubble was. Let's not forget, it's over 30 years old, based on a nearly 50 year old design! Speaking of quantum leaps, we should also recognise how far amateur astrophotography has come since the 1990's (a.ka. film photography, CCD was out of reach of most people) to even be able to have such a comparison. Thanks again for the video Cuiv!!
@gabrielex
@gabrielex 2 месяца назад
@@MysticMungusSlungus Why? HST is still capturing pictures and those are processed with modern software.
@MysticMungusSlungus
@MysticMungusSlungus 2 месяца назад
@@gabrielex Because almost every "Hubble VS (Insert amateur astrophotography camera here)" post is comparing Hubble pictures from 20+ years ago, most notably the thumbnail of this video as that pillars image was taken nearly 30 years ago.
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 Месяц назад
@@CuivTheLazyGeek, years ago I knew the project manager for Hubble data communications and downloads. He showed me some Hubble images on a high-end graphics workstation. I could have sat there all day just staring at a single image. Visual data can contain more than just information. It can contain wonder.
@bartholomule
@bartholomule 2 месяца назад
Nice video. 100% agree here. The images fantastic. Anyone saying it wasn't worth it in their comparisons should repeat the same thing using cameras and trackers from 1990 and post their images from that. Even with the initial Hubble optical issues and thousands of hours of light collection from the earth-based telescope, Hubble would still produce better results.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
It's insane to me that at first the Hubble was considered an abject failure, I'm so glad they were able to correct its optical issues!
@bartholomule
@bartholomule 2 месяца назад
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Yup. I remember the news articles of the day. People should never underestimate geeks. Especially those that aren't lazy and have NASA funding.
@luisrivera-lopez3648
@luisrivera-lopez3648 2 месяца назад
I started astrophotography in November 2020 and I did several comparisons between my low quality pictures and low quality pictures of the hubble not knowing what I was doing. My intention was to know the reaction of my friends on facebook that are astrophotographers and learn from their comments in order to enhance my skills. I still learning and I love this hobby. I just got an upgrade on my rig and hope to get better data using the Celestron StarSense Autoguider with dew heater gear and see what happens. I love your video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and clarify the comparison between the Hubble and our gear.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
That's a great way of doing things! I take (mild) issue about posts that seem to misrepresent the Hubble stuff but your approach is perfect!
@guyjordan8201
@guyjordan8201 Месяц назад
I had a friend who rejected all Astro photography because it did not represent what he could see with his unaided eye. This is ridiculous. You show this argument to another level and I applaud you. All these people want to do is make themselves seem more important than they need to be. Be significant to the people who love you, and allow yourself to be humbled by your insignificance to the universe.
@ethanrichards3268
@ethanrichards3268 2 месяца назад
I think the biggest issue with this argument against the Hubble is that it’s comparing a digital camera from 30 years ago with a digital camera from now. Technology has improved so dramatically that the quality of Hubble will be worse even if it was tippetty top end for the time. Therefore, considering that these photos are of closer, larger targets (relative to other objects in the universe), and that commercially available optics can photo these, Hubble can’t win. However, farther and smaller objects will find Hubble on top due to its far superior optics and lack of atmospheric distortion.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Very true on the old tech! Also we are comparing "pretty images" but Hubble does real science :)
@gabrielex
@gabrielex 2 месяца назад
@@ethanrichards3268 Hubble will always win vs amateur ground based telescopes, doesn't matter how technologically old are the sensors it uses. The reason is physics, and more specifically optics. The actual resolution is due to the size of the mirror (2.4m) in addition to this it's a space telescope, meaning it's not hindered by the atmosphere.
@ethanrichards3268
@ethanrichards3268 2 месяца назад
@@gabrielex yeah that’s what I said at the end. However, kind of like what I said, with much larger (and probably closer) objects, distortion from the atmosphere will have a much less meaningful affect. Largely the same with the optics too. That’s why I still say that modern cameras will win in that circumstance, at least when considering the perceived image quality.
@SirWussiePants
@SirWussiePants 2 месяца назад
@@ethanrichards3268 But the atmosphere can absorb certain frequencies giving a false impression of what the target is made of. Hubble doesnt have that issue. Hubble does a lot more than just make pretty pictures. It is a laboratory crammed into the size of a bus. It really is amazing.
@johnbrobston1334
@johnbrobston1334 2 месяца назад
Basic optics--resolution is limited by aperture. Larger aperture means more resolution. That's not something that you can trick out through software. And Hubble has much more aperture than most amateurs (leaving aside Bill Gates or Elon Musk and the like who can if they want to fund their own Hubble equivalent) can afford. Even with near, bright objects resolution is limited by aperture. Modern large ground-based telescopes have more aperture than any space-based telescope and can to a significant extent adjust for atmospheric distortion using active optics, but again you're talking about technology that is way outside of the reach of most amateurs. What has improved since Hubble is the image sensors, but that alone doesn't compensate for atmospheric distortion or lack of aperture.
@MikeTettenborn
@MikeTettenborn 2 месяца назад
Wonderful video Cuiv! Very informative and a great breakdown of how filters work and what the SHO pallet is. You are a great teacher and your enthusiasm is infectious!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much Mike! I did try to stealth cram a lot of learning topics in the video and I love that I'm successful :)
@stefanschneider3681
@stefanschneider3681 2 месяца назад
It's still unreal what someone as skilled and experienced as you with excellent material can achieve! You can be proud of how far you got! Don't forget there is a huge team processing the Hubble-data! On the other hand let's not forget that these are kind of the "show-off"-pictures of the Hubble-team, perfectly processed for special occasions. Most of the time it's doing science where the data doesn't look all that sexy, but has had an unbelievable impact on our knowledge of almost everything space related. Side-note: I was already very happy when I discovered two years ago that Eagle is actually right "in front of my face" in summer, took a picture of it with my daily DSLR behind my 6''-SC-telescope and could really make out these beautiful pillars! Made the Hubble-pictures so much more real to me. Thx for a great video!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much! And it's so cool amateurs like us can take pictures of those pillars of creation with such "low budget" (everything being relative) equipment!
@stickyfox
@stickyfox 2 месяца назад
Anybody else remember downloading that picture in 1995 on dialup at 14.4kbps?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Yep, but I think I was on something like 36k at the time? And couldn't stay online much because it blocked the phone line. Fun times!
@rickmurray9289
@rickmurray9289 2 месяца назад
As always, I love your videos - they are both educational and entertaining, which to me is what science is all about. In this video, I particularly appreciate your comparison of your work on the Pillars to the classic Hubble image. As good as we think that our amateur images are at times, and they are good indeed, there is a reason that professional astronomy remains alive and well. I liked how you were able to deftly express your love and admiration for the Hubble images, while at the same time acknowledging the efforts of amateur astrophotographers. By the way, I would be thrilled to capture the Eagle Nebula anywhere close to how well you captured it. :)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much Rick! I love our hobby so much and the professional images so much as well, I'm glad it got through in the video :)
@barfy4751
@barfy4751 2 месяца назад
I was able to work for a fellow who worked on the hubble. Said it was the most complex thing he ever was a part of
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
That's awesome! Yeah I can imagine it must have been insanely complex!
@ejles2
@ejles2 2 месяца назад
I am amateur(aka avid follower) of this channel for information about the galaxy and fuel my enthusiasm. He seems genuinely happy, and I can even feel his passion from here😊
@swedishpsychopath8795
@swedishpsychopath8795 2 месяца назад
I didn't know Boris Becker was a professional astro photograper! Excellent work!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Mwahaha, thank you! I break fewer telescopes than Boris Becker does rackets, fortunately!
@johngoyer9705
@johngoyer9705 2 месяца назад
well balanced and excellent comparison - the detail in the Hubble photos is absolutely incredible!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks John!
@chrisvig123
@chrisvig123 2 месяца назад
It’s always with simple bright beginner targets which even Seestar can acquire…Hubble can see objects and phenomena for scientific analysis which here on earth we could never acquire and would seem boring to us
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Absolutely! I purposefully didn't go there as I wanted to stick to these specific "pretty pictures" comparison but this is absolutely right!
@planetofmystery4787
@planetofmystery4787 Месяц назад
5:21 "the mirror, not my wife!" I almost spit my drink over my keyboard over that!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Месяц назад
Sorry about that 😂
@2flight
@2flight 2 месяца назад
You have taken some amazing pictures here. Amazing!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much 😀
@4seiken-594
@4seiken-594 Месяц назад
I dont know why, but these amazing images make me really emotional. Idk if it's the grandeur of the universe, or feelings of pride for mankind for the incredible achievement of photographing these objects with this insane detail, but they make me excited to be alive
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Месяц назад
Fully agree! I have the same feelings :)
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 2 месяца назад
"So what have you done with your astro photography setup?" Me who just got this recommended randomly and only have a pair of binoculars and a smartphone camera:
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Binocs are one of the best ways to get started especially if you live in a dark area! Large binocs (something like 7x50) and a book called "turn left at Orion" are incredible for initial astronomy (not great for astrophotography though)
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 2 месяца назад
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thats super cool, I'll look up that book :) There's probably a bit too much light pollution where I live, but I do love to stargaze whenever I'm out of town so maybe I can up my game a bit with that book tip!
@deadturtle007
@deadturtle007 2 месяца назад
Keep taking pictures! Your work is insirpiring exploration and uncovering the mysteries that hang out in deep space.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thank you, I will!
@timbotron4000
@timbotron4000 2 месяца назад
Part of the value of Hubble is not something you can monetize. The thousands, if not millions of people it has inspired is invaluable. It's contribution to the human knowledge library and the pure awesome nature of the images is intangible
@frauleinhohenzollern
@frauleinhohenzollern 2 месяца назад
Uh huh
@Jerbert-qn4in
@Jerbert-qn4in 2 месяца назад
Lol all on taxpayer money, pay for your hobby yourself bud
@clurkroberts2650
@clurkroberts2650 Месяц назад
Your images are wonderful, and your comparison of Hubble vs your images demonstrates the true wonder of Hubble
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Месяц назад
Thank you!
@kylie_h1978
@kylie_h1978 2 месяца назад
If anyone claims they can take an image as good as Hubble from their backyard, ask them for their Deep Space Field image.
@ThomasKundera
@ThomasKundera 2 месяца назад
Underrated comment 🙂
@ridleyroid9060
@ridleyroid9060 2 месяца назад
My pictures are nowhere near anything approaching even your pics Cuiv, but I keep on trucking along anyways because this hobby is so fun and space is for everyone!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much!
@cliveroberts415
@cliveroberts415 2 месяца назад
I did a slightly different comparison. I compared an image I took with my 130mm newt to the first image taken of M31 by Isaac Roberts in the 19th century. I have to say mine won but only because of advances in technology that is now available to amateurs.
@VioletGiraffe
@VioletGiraffe 2 месяца назад
Great video. So did you use a chiller to cool that camera? To what temperature?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Yep! Because it's 30C at night in Tokyo these days, I cooled the sensor to -5C (it uses an integrated Peltier cooler to achieve this)
@TerryMcKnight1
@TerryMcKnight1 2 месяца назад
The Hubble does real science. We just take pretty pictures.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Some amateurs do do real science as well, it's actually one of the few hobbies where we can do real science... But yeah most of us (myself included) focus on pretty pictures :)
@Explore-Gobal
@Explore-Gobal 2 месяца назад
Thumbs up! Like the science, like your narration, like your enthusiasm, and your expressions. Watched it all. Great job.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much!
@jesuschrist2284
@jesuschrist2284 2 месяца назад
So you're saying i should start with a me versus cuiv before moving on to me versus hubble? ;)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Hahaha, nah, no need to compete ;)
@jesuschrist2284
@jesuschrist2284 2 месяца назад
@@CuivTheLazyGeek i wouldn't dare try
@jazzdirt
@jazzdirt Месяц назад
I don't really have a thing with astronomy or astrophotography, I do however love seeing someone being passionate about what they are doing.. Enjoyed the vid, and subscribed..
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Месяц назад
Glad you enjoyed, welcome to the channel!
@StepDub
@StepDub 2 месяца назад
The purpose of Hubble was scientific research, not making nice pictures for Joe Pubic. These are only a fraction of it’s output and pretty good, considering.
@ironheavenz
@ironheavenz 2 месяца назад
What a great video, love the honesty, ingenuity and sheer passion for astronomy!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!
@chrzanik666
@chrzanik666 2 месяца назад
I miss when liking the video was guaranteeing clear skies in my location😂
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Hahaha I should included it as subtitles at least :p
@IronMan-2024
@IronMan-2024 2 месяца назад
I have been doing narrowband imaging for a long time (July 3rd 2024) 🤣 and my first target after testing my first dual band filter was RCW 165. I was so excited I didn’t even polar align and was guiding at 0.7” by some miracle. Went to bed and woke up the next morning to see I had imaged the Eagle nebula! I had no idea I could see the pillars of creation from my backyard!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
That's an amazing feeling right??
@gnagyusa
@gnagyusa 2 месяца назад
Actually, the biggest advantage of mirrors vs. lenses is that mirrors reflect all wavelengths at the same angle, and they don't absorb as much light. So, there is no chromatic aberration and they can image a wider spectrum.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
That's very true!
@thesentientneuron6550
@thesentientneuron6550 2 месяца назад
Notably only true for a first-surface mirror, but doesn’t take away the cool factor in the slightest 😊
@ThomasKundera
@ThomasKundera 2 месяца назад
They are also way thinner (especially now with dynamic mirrors), it would be almost impossible to make an 8m wide lens that would just hold its own weight ;-)
@thesentientneuron6550
@thesentientneuron6550 2 месяца назад
@@ThomasKundera Unless you go for segmented lens array, right?
@astralshore
@astralshore 2 месяца назад
So this was an easy subscribe decision. Fantastic video. I’m a very very very novice “astrophotographer” (no tracker, DSLR with fast glass, stacking in photoshop) and I’m highly interested in stepping up my game. The way you explain it makes me want to try out such a dedicated setup. Most RU-vid channels that do this type of photography just make me feel dumb instead.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thank you so much! You may enjoy a channel called "Nebula Photos", they explain very well and one of their older videos is exactly about how to capture and stack with just a DSLR+lens and no tracker! Otherwise if you want to go down the rabbit hole that is this hobby, I have an "astrophotography for lazy people" playlist that goes into a lot of those details! Anyway, thanks so much for your feedback!
@ScalieBloke
@ScalieBloke 2 месяца назад
How many flat eathers are in the comments trying to debunk you dad?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
I actually am surprised, I've seen only one flat earther comment for the moment! It's been very good comments, accurate! Love the audience on this video!
@ScalieBloke
@ScalieBloke 2 месяца назад
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I really want them to see this video. My feed has been filled lately with that kind of stuff because when you watch one video... well you're done for. But yeah. They keep going on about "Do your own experiments" and you clearly did that. This is something they could do, and I bet you they will stray far from your video.
@Psyden5757
@Psyden5757 2 месяца назад
How are you cooling the sensor to like -5°C? I don't see any heat pump nearby, are you using liquid nitrogen? or maybe co2 cartridges?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
It's a Peltier cooler with a fan to expel the excess heat!
@ashzole
@ashzole 2 месяца назад
Lololol what did you just say?? 0:08 ??? Afro ruhruhtuh??? 😂😂😂
@ParkouSince2005
@ParkouSince2005 2 месяца назад
Astrophotographerhehrhes
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Astroajfjgkkgkfhkg!
@Strifeart.
@Strifeart. Месяц назад
lol 😂
@richotter
@richotter Месяц назад
😂
@alekvillarreal3470
@alekvillarreal3470 Месяц назад
@@CuivTheLazyGeeklove that you just roll with it 😂 good on ya mate 👍
@settratheimperishable4093
@settratheimperishable4093 2 месяца назад
Also remember the amount of technological development since the launch of Hubble, especially in things like sensors and such. This level of detail with amateur methods was nothing but a dream at the time Hubble was launched.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Very, very true! Even in the last 10 years, tech has advanced a LOT in the world of astrophotography!
@AlexDiesTrying
@AlexDiesTrying 2 месяца назад
How to beat Hubble? Easy, take a picture of the Milky Way. Since Hubble has such a large focal length, it's ability to capture a large part of the sky is close to impractical. Another way to beat Hubble is to take any pictures of the sun. Hubble would die if it tried.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Ha! Very true!
@lelouchlamperouge5910
@lelouchlamperouge5910 2 месяца назад
I get you are joking, but for other people. The Hubble is for looking at far away objects in great detail with scientific purposes, not to take beautiful photos or to take photos of the sun that you can take really cheap without going to space for that.
@AlexDiesTrying
@AlexDiesTrying 2 месяца назад
@@lelouchlamperouge5910 I am not joking at all. The discipline is astrophotography. It's perfectly valid to challenge Hubble where it sucks. And it so happens that any amateur with a camera and a filter can gather more scientific data of the sun than Hubble. And pretty much all astrophotography is about taking pictures of far away objects.
@kani75
@kani75 2 месяца назад
Hubble took image of moon. Or more correctly, took 130 pictures, that are together image of moon.
@AlexDiesTrying
@AlexDiesTrying 2 месяца назад
@@kani75 Yes, the Moon isn't so bright that it would damage the telescope. And compared to what amateurs can do, the resolution of that Moon picture is amazing.
@bootlegengineer
@bootlegengineer 2 месяца назад
I cannot wait till the ESL will be finished in around two-ish years. The resolution limit difference between your images and Hubble are around the same as between Hubble and ESL. Just thinking about the structure we will see around young stars that are still building up their planets gives me shivers
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
First light will be in 2028, can't wait!
@DusanPavlicek78
@DusanPavlicek78 2 месяца назад
Very nice explanation of the technical process and also a nice comparison of the two photos. Good job!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much!
@TRONMAGNUM2099
@TRONMAGNUM2099 2 месяца назад
I was randomly suggested this video. Looks amazing.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Месяц назад
Awesome! Thank you!
@gestor2008
@gestor2008 2 месяца назад
Hello Cuiv,. I'm going to buy the Touptek IMX 571 camera. My doubt is to choose between AR Glass or IR Cut Filter. What do you recommend?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
I would recommend going for AR glass since you have access to the full spectrum then... But you do need to have at least a UV/IR cut filter somewhere in the light path - if that's a bother or you don't want to have a filter drawer, etc. then the IR cut is fine!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Also if you do buy, don't forget to use my links ;) 😉
@josgraha
@josgraha 5 дней назад
even if it's not as good as the hubble, you can get some amazing shots of stuff the hubble wouldn't have time to take, that's amazing
@M1cler
@M1cler 2 месяца назад
@9:59 The power of gray scale :D!
@ljkildsgardsbryggeri
@ljkildsgardsbryggeri 2 месяца назад
What an amazing image you created😍 you mentioned the incredible contrast in the hubble image. That’s mainly because of two factors. One, as in your last video about f roatio, with a higher f roatio you gain contrast(hubble is f:24). The other is the capability of the instruments on hubble.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Very true!
@grahamerrington4328
@grahamerrington4328 2 месяца назад
Another great video Cuiv, you continue to inspire us. 👍
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
I appreciate that!
@richardreumerman5449
@richardreumerman5449 Месяц назад
I loved this, especially since it's a love letter to the Hubble.
@conorredmond6217
@conorredmond6217 2 месяца назад
Absolutely love this mate. Ive subscribed, looking forward to checkin out your future content. Can i ask, how much was did this set up cost?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much! I'm so glad this video got scene, I kind of regret not making it "more entertaining" and to the point now, I don't have all the flashy production quality of others... I usually do very technical reviews and explanations in the astrophotography niche, so sorry if you get a lot of uninteresting videos! The setup in total was around $4,000, so it's not cheap. But with care you could get it down to around $2,000, although in use it would be a more frustrating experience!
@MT-ur5dp
@MT-ur5dp 2 месяца назад
Funny thing is that at least some of discoveries made with the help of amateurs were made by avoiding competition with professional telescopes. Three examples I could think of: 1. Kojima-1L is a microlensing event discovered by an amateur. Most microlensing surveys look at the center of the Milky Way because there are so many stars. Kojima-1L lies still in the Milky Way, but outside these dense fields of stars. 2. 2I-Borisov the interstellar comet. I think I read that Borisov look spefically at regions of the sky that other telescopes were not looking to avoid competition. 3. I was part of the backyard worlds project and we helped to discover brown dwarfs and planetary-mass companions around stars. In one case a large telescope looked with a coronagraph at the star for which we found a companion, but they could not see it. The companion was outside the field of view of the large telescope. We used mostly the images of a space telescope called WISE, which does not have a coronagraph.
@fertilizerspike
@fertilizerspike 2 месяца назад
You have not a goddamn clue what you're talking about
@JoshwaLaw
@JoshwaLaw Месяц назад
My step-dads, step-dad was the director of the hubble space telescope program 😊 pretty neat
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Месяц назад
That's so cool!!
@thetinkerist
@thetinkerist 2 месяца назад
Subbed! liked! I love it how you explain this, you're such an enthusiastic person
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thanks so much, and welcome to the channel!
@martynh5410
@martynh5410 2 месяца назад
I think Cuiv, you should do a comparison between the SeeStar S50 and the Hubble Space telescope. I think they are about the same…. Of course not. The Hubble scope has Dawes limit of 0.048 Arcseconds. The SeeStar with its mighty 50mm (1.97”) lens has a Dawes limit of 2.32 Arcseconds!
@siegfriednoet
@siegfriednoet 2 месяца назад
Absolutely Great video Quiv, very well explained ! You see a lot of those 'Me versus Hubble" comparisons lately, I always think it's funny and absolutely not even comparable at all. But I'm sure that most, if not all, non astro related people who see these comparisons are completely mislead
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
That's my worry, the misleading of the non-astro folk :)
@captaincook6666
@captaincook6666 2 месяца назад
I've just done a short video of same comparison. I was quite happy with the result especially with this years awful weather I get compared to space!
@KevinRudd-w8s
@KevinRudd-w8s 2 месяца назад
Interesting comparison Cuiv. My results aren't good enough to even think about comparing with the Hubble. But I have a lot of fun capturing and processing them, and they are getting better. Im sure over the comming years our amatueur gear will only improve. The only thing I really envy about Hubble is the lack of clouds, my lattest bit of kit is arriving today in the shape of a Sky Watcher 100i harmonic drive mount, so now I just need a few clear nights to see what it can do. Regarding lens v mirror for telescopes its not just the cost, the weight and complexity of the lens, which can only be supported by its edge, has to be considered. Does anyone even make refractors over 175mm these days? ( I honestly don't know the answer, but you never seem to hear of any). I still prefer them to small reflectors, but thats just a personal choice, Newtonians will always win on price, pity some amature ones are ruined by poor quality focusers, secondary mirror supports etc.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Congrats on your new mount! Hope it works out well!! And yeah, Newts are awesome and cheap... But often TOO cheap 😕
@margaretanddave
@margaretanddave 2 месяца назад
Very interesting video! Slight non-sequitor; a friend of mine was involved with designing Hubble, including the optical fix that was installed later. He has the distinction of being the last human to touch Hubble while it was still on Earth!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
That is so cool!!! Thanks for that little anecdote, it kind of made my day :)
@barfy4751
@barfy4751 2 месяца назад
I worked for an older fellow who also worked on the hubble. He is in Sonoma county. Can't remember the name.
@Danileith123
@Danileith123 2 месяца назад
People on the internet lie/misrepresent stuff? Gasp! Snark aside, I’m glad the algorithm sent you my way. You have a new sub
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Hahaha, I thought every one on the Internet only told the truth?! :)
@larryhuffine2814
@larryhuffine2814 Месяц назад
I'm super curious about the additional movement are you talking about the movement of the tracking or are you talking about additional movement aside from the tracking is the tracking itself not enough movement I'm curious
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Месяц назад
Thanks for the question! Yes, so there is tracking (countering the rotation of the earth), and then once you're done with a sub-exposure, you can randomly move the telescope field of view by a few pixels in a random direction! And then you start tracking again. This is called dithering. It forces any fixed pattern noise (like hot pixels) to end up on different pixels in each exposure, meaning that they can be filtered out in the final image. And at the same time, because a detail from the nebula can fall on a different fractional pixel after the dithering, you can eke some more information about your target that way (and the additional information is revealed via a process called drizzling - which was developed for the Hubble in the first place!)
@williamyamm8803
@williamyamm8803 2 месяца назад
I know almost nothing about telescopes (but I still know a lot about photography), your video is great, I learned a lot! Captivating! Thanks ! Greetings from France
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Merci beaucoup! C'etait pas mal de boulot de preparer cette video, mais ca valait le coup!
@chadyonfire7878
@chadyonfire7878 Месяц назад
crazy shit , i didnt know i would stumble on someone explaining this
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek Месяц назад
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for the feedback!
@risingson7773
@risingson7773 2 месяца назад
May not be HST quality, but still very awesome images you're able capture. Really is beautiful out there.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thank you!!
@timiusz
@timiusz 2 месяца назад
I see that you have a the gemini autofocuser installed. Excited for the video about it!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Coming soon!
@deeboweb
@deeboweb 2 месяца назад
is that the gemini focuser cuiv? ive just got one to try out. how are you finding it? will we see a video about it?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Well spotted! Yes, video coming soon!
@IonutNedelcu
@IonutNedelcu 2 месяца назад
I've been struggling with separating the Ha and Oiii signal from dual narrowband using Siril/Sirilic. Do you know any tricks for doing it?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
I have trouble on that with Siril... So unfortunately no tricks yet...
@PhilW222
@PhilW222 2 месяца назад
Ground based amateur telescopes could never compete with the Hubble in terms of resolution, as you point out, but it is still a thrill when you can see stuff in your own image that you can see in a well-known Hubble image, however poor the comparison! I was so happy when I imaged M16 with my Seestar and could make out the Pillars of Creation, however indistinctly.
@NevadaDesertSkies
@NevadaDesertSkies 2 месяца назад
Another awesome video, Cuiv. Just curious, why does your secondary spider look like it was made of Play-Doh? 😁
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
I painted it black as everyone told me it would fix all my troubles in life, but it wasn't effective! It's water soluble paint so I'll probably remove it at some point :)
@arkabit4452
@arkabit4452 2 месяца назад
Mussou black you need...
@JuhaniAuvinen
@JuhaniAuvinen 2 месяца назад
You should also take into consideration how old the Hubble hardware actually is compared to new hobby backyard tech. I would love to see them try to upgrade the detectors on Hubble.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Yep! They've upgraded the detectors several times actually, but no more :(
@Bloke-in-Stoke
@Bloke-in-Stoke 2 месяца назад
What a brilliant video! Well done and thanks for sharing. I know exactly what you mean when you say you still get Goose Bumps or "Chair de Poule", Skin of the Chicken, in French. 😀 I can still remember the very first time I captured the Orion Nebula with a fixed, tripod mounted, Nikon D70 and Sigma 300mm lens from our house in the Lot Valley, South West France. We had a fabulous dark sky there so even Andromeda was just about naked eye visible. The Orion nebula was barely more than a smudge but even so, there was colour and some detail... I can't tell you how overjoyed I was to capture such an amazing image with such basic equipment. Single exposure by the way... no stacking, rotating or any other image processing. Pure magic. Unfortunately, we no longer own our place in France so my dark skies are no more but you have inspired me to have another go. If you can do this from Tokyo, I can sure try it from here in Stoke-on-Trent. Thanks again and Cheers from the U.K. 🍺
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Oh man I know that feeling so well!! I've had similar equipment and just getting a result was a thrill that is difficult to describe! Hope you get some clear skies in the UK!
@tonyf8358
@tonyf8358 2 месяца назад
This was a great video. It really should have been a video about how amateur astronomy has advanced in the last 30 years. What you achieved today was not even possible in the 70s, 80s, or 90s. Even in the last 20 years, CCD has advanced astonishingly. Simply amazing! Have you ever attempted a image of Ganymede?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thank you! Ganymede (assuming you're referring to Jupiter's moon) can be captured very easily since it's so bright. Even an untracked telescope with a modified webcam can get amazing results for planetary imaging. But if you want to actually see details on Ganymede, you need a large telescope (14 inch would be good), a very steady atmosphere, and to use an imaging method called "lucky imaging"!
@tonyf8358
@tonyf8358 2 месяца назад
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Is image stacking part of how you achieve such amazing images?
@revolting887
@revolting887 2 месяца назад
"the mirror, not my wife" made me laugh out loud! 😂
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Hehehe glad I could do that 😁
@ethandoingstuff1433
@ethandoingstuff1433 2 месяца назад
amazing video! shame youtube compression made the hubble image a little blurrier than it is :(
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thank you!! Yeah RU-vid can be merciless... The trick is usually to set the highest resolution available in this video it's 1440p!
@astrofromhome
@astrofromhome 2 месяца назад
Great video Cuiv! I also love Hubble space telescope!🥰 I am still waiting for clear skies to be able to point my litte Hubble onto the Pillars of Creation too. Little Hubble is waiting for months to finally get a glimpse at the famous area of the night sky like its huge brother. I would love to shoot the pillars in SHO too but I am lacking a monochrome camera. Maybe next year then with an IMX492 sensor camera on full 48MP resolution.🤩
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
You can do SHO with OSC cameras (I actually did that in this video) but it's not obvious! I need to make a tutorial about this!!
@MackDaddi
@MackDaddi Месяц назад
The Hubble telescope was built 40 years ago, it was the best that we had at the time. Technology jumps exponentially. So comparing cost and technology, is a mute point. It's amazing what we have now, and it will only get better with more time. 😊
@richardcullip8468
@richardcullip8468 2 месяца назад
Great video. I loved the comparison. I would like to see a video on how you processed your Eagle Nebula photo.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Thinking about doing that!
@stephenthexton7056
@stephenthexton7056 2 месяца назад
Great fun and enthusiastic video as ever Cuiv. You could have also thrown in there the new version from the JWST as a more fair comparison for today’s modern equipment - that’s even more gobsmacking! Funnily enough my last Astrophoto share on Facebook was looking at M16 but was more a discussion of the bridge between science and art. Thanks as ever for the great content- clear skies
@CuivTheLazyGeek
@CuivTheLazyGeek 2 месяца назад
Oh man the JWST images are just too incredibly mind blowing... Thanks for the feedback!!
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