*** Amazing *** Typhoon Takeoff 

Thanks Andrew - great story! Did you mention the video to Scott?

*_This_* could easily drown the sound of a Eurofighter even from several kilometres away. Its fuel pumps alone had more power than the total power output of most large aircrafts and ships. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Iwn4LVVvAUQ.html

Thanks Kevin

*****​ what.. with two paveways bombs and 2 AIM missiles.. boubt it

Ben Daulton the same can be said for the F35. the only internal payload the F35 can carry is 2 paveways bombs and 2 missiles. if you want more then your gonna have to stick them on the wings. so in either situation, the typhoon comes out better

Ben Daulton ok let me tell you. all versons on the f35 can only carry a maximum of 2 paveways and 4 AIM missiles internally top speed of m1.6 if the typhoon was to carry the same payload it can still maintain M 2.0 helped by the fact that the typhoon can carry up to 4 AIM recessed under its belly. so the only drag will be from 2 paveways. now if you have ever noticed the f35 from forward view, the f35 a fat and a wide thing. its not as aero efficiencent as the typhoon also have two tail wings, so when you add more weapons it's gonna add to the already draggy airframe. not to mention the amount of thrust the typhoons ej200 produces. some sources have stated the typhoon can supercruise at m1.6 with a weapons loads out albet it limited to missiles only. So regardless of what the F35 can do, it's always gonna be behind the typhoon unless they upgrade the engines.

*****​ I've been following the F35 and typhoon for years. So I kinda know my facts. We are talking about what weapons the f35 and typhoon can carry at top speed... All versions on the F35 carry the same internal payload. But there performance and combat range differs with each versions of the F35. The VTLO being the weakest link of them all. So as I was originally saying the f35 can only carry 2 paveways bombs and 4 missiles internally. In the same weapons configuration the typhoon can carry that and still maintain a higher speed. The f35A has a range of 2,200KM the eurofighter has a range of 2,900KM all internal fuel. You start adding drop tanks it will effect them both. But the eurofighter is developing CFTs which would help reduce the drag and add extra range. As for comparing thrust of a modern jet like the F35 to a 1970s f15 isn't really ideal.

Ben Daulton aircraft fuel range is rather like a car manufacturers MPG estimate. it's not gonna be exact every time when you factor in weather, heat etc... But it does give you a guide. one thing that annoys me is when people compare large single engines such as the f35s to smaller engines u find inside eurofighter, F15 etc... The bigger larger engine will always make alot of thrust compared to small engine and then on paper it sounds better. But that's like comparing a heavyweight boxer to a welterweight boxer. two different engines designed for different roles

We need some SeaTyphoons for the carriers- whoooops too late ! Wales UK.

***** that wasn't really the point I was trying to make but ok lol

Yeah, i get your point. The Buccaneers used to do that. The pilots would flick a 'weight on ground' switch before they started the takeoff run and as soon as the plane left the runway the undercarriage retracted and they carried on hugging the runway.

Graham Beaumont exactly! and then pull vertical at the end 👌

yep

jaime hughes ??

If your military then you'd understand

jaime hughes I think so too. We in Finland are buying new fighters to replace Hornets. I would love to see this plane in our sky. It just looks fantastic. Good job developing it Italy, Spain, German and England.

nah dasault rafale m8

+anonymus99 boss Just a copy of the typhoon

***** It only needs that thrust cause it has to do vertical take-offs and landings, whilst carrying a large payload. The Typhoon has a thrust to weight ratio of 1.76. Not even the F22 could do that. The f35 can only reach mach 1.6 compared to the typhoon's mach 2.04. It also has crap maneuverability, crap stealth and a cringe-worthy price. The list goes on and on

We’ve just bought 6 to take some off your load.

so mr. president should buy a smaller air force one jet

Take off starts there, video starts at 0:00

What are you talking about mate, development started in '83, production started in '94 and it entered service in 2003, seems a pretty normal cycle for an advanced aircraft. I'm pretty sure that the reason for not hurrying into service was the end the cold war. Another significant factor was Germany's reunification which had a huge impact on their economy. BTW the F-22's development started in 1981 and I'm pretty sure they took their time due to the end of the cold war as well. The F-35 seems to be following the same ~20 year cycle as well with development starting in 1996 and service planned for 2015, and 2019 for the carrier version. Even though it is 11 years in service, it still outperforms all the aircraft of the current generation and is pretty comparable to the next-gen ones like f35.

@ Cloud cuckoo land. America can't make them though unfortunately any more, F22. Too expansive, unsafe, unflyable out of production. Stealth fighter? What's that? Generations? Labels, don't be fooled by what you read.

Furthermore, America can not 'buy whatever they like'. The glossy American dream is no more, and the rest of the world is not fooled by the image portrayed of false wealth. We know that middle America is a poverty ridden decaying wasteland. What do you know about Germany? Do you know where it is? Have you any idea how powerful it's economy it is and how fantastic their engineers are? America can't design & build, or buy jack squit at the moment, as exemplified by the woeful cars & half hearted jobs at building safe commercial airliners. There is no money to invest.

MegaVector2011 Wow , your jealously of America is very sad to read. Come back when Germany becomes a world power then talk trash. Until then, keep playing for the minor leagues.

Scott Wiggins Apple phones are manufactured in China.

+Hafnar 117 I agree. The Su-47 is pretty awesome, but it is only experimental, and I hope it does well in combat conditions.

+Hafnar 117 lmao, the Su-35 and Mig-35 for all intent and purposes don't even come close.

LKVideos That's because the MiG-35 doesn't even exist yet and the SU-35 has a lower thrust/weight ratio than the Typhoon, also the Sukhoi is less maneuverable it has 3D-vectoring which burns energy too quickly but that's it.

stealth is over rated. prime example the F35. $1.4 trillion in the making and it can't beat a 1970s F16 in a dog fight. And now an American think tank say Russian and Chinese jets to detect the F35 with their sensors. So the F35 can't Run, can't turn, can't climb and now it can't hide.

***** Dude.....I think you've fangirled over the Typhoon enough and time to actually LOOK at war, and in turn Aerial Tactics, as a whole...... Stealth isn't over rated IF you know what stealth does in the first place, it's a "camouflage" against radar, it doesn't make one invisible. What it does it make the radar think its something else at range so the fighter can detect, then avoid or destroy the radar station before they realize it's a fighter instead of radar clutter. As for the detection.....if a Typhoon can't a detect a Raptor or B2 Spirit as an aircraft at range (First with German Typhoons, then with Brit Typhoons)....do you really think the Russians or Chinese have a snowballs chance in hell in doing that same? Especially when the F-35s features make it better then the B2 against detection...not that it would matter in the first place if they could as if war were to break out, those installations will be the first to go. Another thing.....you do realize the F-35 is still in a restricted flight envelope, because (SURPRISE!!!) it's still in the development phase, even the Typhoon had it's flight envelop restricted in that regard....This fighter wasn't made to replace the Typhoon merely augment it. The intended fighters it suppose to replace are the F-16 and AV-8s (To which the performance of the F-35 blows both jets completely out of the water) and augment F-18E/Fs around the world, and it's performance is actually somewhat better then the Super Hornets....and one last thing....that 1.4 trillion dollars of spending? That's referring to the projected costs of procurement, repair, and retro fit through it's ENTIRE lifetime.... which is from 2017 to 2069....that's 1.4 trillion over 50 years....and before I forget.....the projected unit price of the F-35 in full rate production is going to cost from 90 to 110 million USD per aircraft dependent on variant....which is cheaper then the cost of a Typhoon at around 140 million USD...... Why the fuck bring up the argument in the first place? These two fighters aren't going to be on the opposite ends of a war so why the fuck argue about who's better? Seriously makes you look like you have penis envy.....

+*ANDY* What source? The only thing I read about the F22 being "detected" is an statement by one German Typhoon pilot who thinks the Typhoon's IRST could probably see "something big and hot" as a Raptor, note that's just a statement of opinion and not a confirmed finding as the German Typhoons did not have an IRST equipped during that red flag, nor was there any formal F22 vs Typhoon "fight", what happened was fighter jocks wagging their dicks, complete with alcohol bets. What this means for the F35, I don't know, but there isn't any data except heresay on its detection. As for performance vs an F16, on paper, the F35 has better performance all around, everything from speed, range, and payload....how the Viper beat the F35 in a dogfight....simple....the Viper pilot most likely had a 1000+ of hours of flight time, and could probably take off, sortie and land in his sleep he's so comfortable with his fighter, the guy flying the F35 ( which btw is the C model which has a flight profile more akin to the Rhino then a Viper ) probably tops 100ish hours, put that in account then no shit the F35 got its ass beat, I doesn't matter how good your plane is, because if you don't know how to use it properly it's going to do crap against someone who knows their plane inside out in a close in knife fight. Now for cost, here's a tidbit of info....If you take in the cost of production of the F18 when it was in low rate production and account for inflation and what not with the USD, you'll find its cost to be interestingly similar to the F35 now. It's all in published papers the Pentagon has put out if you don't believe me and with how the trend of most production costs, it's only going to get cheaper and I'm speculating this on US procurement, it'll be even cheaper still with international sales.

ISAFSoldier seriously dude. you don't have a clue, The F16 is better than the F35 in many areas. For example F16 top speed is M1.8 and the F35 is M1.6.. The F35 sustained turning G performance is 7G due to its poor wing load design. The F16 is 9G. As regard to the Typhoon detecting the F22, This was back in 2006 at China Lake eucitizens.eu/Forum/index.php?topic=166.0

+damian poole You're confusing G load with wing load here as the F35 has almost a 30 pound advantage over the Viper, but if you're going for g load, we'll play, that g load was founded on the C and B models, which as I said before having a flight profile closer to the Rhino(the F-18, also has a 7 g load ) then a Viper, where as the A model, which is the definitive Viper replacement, does have the full 9 g wing load. As for speed....dude, testing and development, they haven't green lit it to find its actual max speed yet. Also high off bore capabilities in '06?....the Typhoon's HMSS wasn't introduced until '11 coinciding with the installation of PIRATE IRST, and even then I'm reading sources that these two Typhoons didn't have the earlier variation of PIRATE either, so that along with how I have NOTHING on the RAF, USAF, or any other third party reputed Military Aviation journal or what not confirming this story, makes me wonder the validity of the article. Hell, sifting through the same forum, I'm reading people all of that was just on speculation.

F22 was cancelled well ahead. Production stopped in 2011 I think

And not even nearly as expensive as the Failure-22 the worlds only flying propaganda

Tom Somerfield Kind of wish you could afford to have though, don't you?

Sledge Hammer don't get me wrong if the f-22 did what it said it did then it would be worth every penny however Russians have proved its not invisible to wider radars at long range hence why I am right to call it the worlds only flying propaganda and the U.S. Made the right move cancelling that crap.

Yeah I was blessed to be there that day! AWESOME!!!

I know, im joking lol im actually British anyway.

With the advent of the Meteor missile. The Typhoon's BVR reach is 200klm (124mls).

Ray twit. You have no experience . You do not have a clue about the Merlin engine, I can give figures for the Mk V which I have to hand and 60 gall per hour is not even close. TAS of 368 mph at 20,000 feet the Mk V used 88 gallons per hour, that is the top speed, at 20,000 feet and 300 mph it used 46 gallons per hour and at 20,000 feet and 261 mph it used 36 gallons per hour. The Mk IX at 37,000 feet full throttle and 2,300 rpm 50 gallons per hour. Sure many hours of flying a playstation poor boy, you never even flew a glider let alone any real plane. You do`t even know the different versions of Gipsy Queen engines. The 380 hp Gipsy Queen 70/3.